(09-24-2019 02:24 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Iowa is walking a very thin line of hypocrisy about fan behavior. They've had the reputation for the most hostile fans in the Big Ten for years.

From personal experience, this is absolutely true.

I've seen PSU play in every B1G stadium except Maryland (which I'm hitting Friday) and Rutgers. Many of those games have been in the post-Sandusky era. Iowa was the most unwelcoming bunch even before 2011, and in my 1 visit since (2017), they were absolutely vicious with the Sandusky stuff. The fans of other schools typically don't mention Sandusky AT ALL.

(09-25-2019 01:14 PM)Nittany_Bearcat Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 02:24 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Iowa is walking a very thin line of hypocrisy about fan behavior. They've had the reputation for the most hostile fans in the Big Ten for years.

From personal experience, this is absolutely true.

I've seen PSU play in every B1G stadium except Maryland (which I'm hitting Friday) and Rutgers. Many of those games have been in the post-Sandusky era. Iowa was the most unwelcoming bunch even before 2011, and in my 1 visit since (2017), they were absolutely vicious with the Sandusky stuff. The fans of other schools typically don't mention Sandusky AT ALL.

If your seats aren't in the visitors section or you're not in a large group, I'd implore wearing neutral clothing. Someone dumped a beverage on my head and I wasn't even talking or cheering, just walking concourse with a red NIU jersey (good thing it was 90 degrees). They love to verbally harass too - just don't engage.

Kind of interesting to hear this about Iowa fans....I had no idea

(09-25-2019 01:14 PM)Nittany_Bearcat Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 02:24 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Iowa is walking a very thin line of hypocrisy about fan behavior. They've had the reputation for the most hostile fans in the Big Ten for years.

From personal experience, this is absolutely true.

I've seen PSU play in every B1G stadium except Maryland (which I'm hitting Friday) and Rutgers. Many of those games have been in the post-Sandusky era. Iowa was the most unwelcoming bunch even before 2011, and in my 1 visit since (2017), they were absolutely vicious with the Sandusky stuff. The fans of other schools typically don't mention Sandusky AT ALL.

Yes, I spend a lot of time on Iowa message boards and agree that many of them can't let the Sandusky stuff go. They are still outraged that PSU was let off easy and are convinced that PSU fans are a bunch of mindless zombies who have never owned up to what Sandusky did.

Every year Iowa plays PSU they bring it up on the Iowa message boards. Refer to PSU as Pedo St, etc. It does not surprise me that Iowa fans are saying that to you in person too. Unfortunately some fans are going to give PSU fans a hard time for as long as they live.

(09-25-2019 01:01 PM)goofus Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 09:36 AM)texoma Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 10:07 PM)goofus Wrote:  I am surprised by the blame the victim mentality on this board.

With that said,, a better solution than canceling the series, would be to just leave the bands at home when they are visiting team. Iowa band stays home when team plays at ISU. ISU band stays home when team plays at Iowa.

Who is the victim? Sounds to me like the Iowa State fans were the victims of the Iowa band.

https://www.thegazette.com/subject/sport...s-20190920

reported accounts from band members that they experienced racial slurs, verbal and physical sexual harassment and assault, shoves that sent one woman to the hospital, and thrown objects leaving lasting bruises during last weekend’s Cy-Hawk rivalry.

It got really bad,” said Paige Pearson, 20, a UI junior who has played trumpet in the band for three years and was in the thick of it during the Sept. 14 rain-delayed football game at ISU

Pearson, who was present for the abuse and recounted it as the worst she’s experienced in her time with the band, said multiple band members have bruises from shoving, hitting and being struck by flying items.

Attacks included verbal and physical sexual abuse during the game, Pearson said. One female band member suffered fractured ribs and went to the hospital, she said

Fans pulled at the drum line and attacked members, Knopp said. They threw beer cans and shook and sprayed them at the members’ feet as they marched

People say a lot of things. Why didn't the band use the exit they were advised to. From the accounts I have read it sounds like the
Band started the pushing and shoving and the Iowa State fans pushed back.

(09-25-2019 07:20 PM)texoma Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 01:01 PM)goofus Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 09:36 AM)texoma Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 10:07 PM)goofus Wrote:  I am surprised by the blame the victim mentality on this board.

With that said,, a better solution than canceling the series, would be to just leave the bands at home when they are visiting team. Iowa band stays home when team plays at ISU. ISU band stays home when team plays at Iowa.

Who is the victim? Sounds to me like the Iowa State fans were the victims of the Iowa band.

https://www.thegazette.com/subject/sport...s-20190920

reported accounts from band members that they experienced racial slurs, verbal and physical sexual harassment and assault, shoves that sent one woman to the hospital, and thrown objects leaving lasting bruises during last weekend’s Cy-Hawk rivalry.

It got really bad,” said Paige Pearson, 20, a UI junior who has played trumpet in the band for three years and was in the thick of it during the Sept. 14 rain-delayed football game at ISU

Pearson, who was present for the abuse and recounted it as the worst she’s experienced in her time with the band, said multiple band members have bruises from shoving, hitting and being struck by flying items.

Attacks included verbal and physical sexual abuse during the game, Pearson said. One female band member suffered fractured ribs and went to the hospital, she said

Fans pulled at the drum line and attacked members, Knopp said. They threw beer cans and shook and sprayed them at the members’ feet as they marched

People say a lot of things. Why didn't the band use the exit they were advised to. From the accounts I have read it sounds like the
Band started the pushing and shoving and the Iowa State fans pushed back.

I believe that's how Iowa and Iowa St administrators wanted to originally play this, issuing a joint statement that both sides have acted like jerks throughout the years and both sides need to do better. But that did not go over well with the Iowa band, who threw a fit and started insisting on social media that they were seriously mistreated at the ISU game. That's when the Iowa administrators decided they did not take the Iowa bands claims serious enough. Kind of like the posters on this board are not taking the claims of the Iowa band serious.

(09-25-2019 02:41 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  Kind of interesting to hear this about Iowa fans....I had no idea

Friends of mine who are South Carolina fans pretty much said the same thing after they played Iowa in the Outback Bowl. Put them up there with Georgia fans, and that's bad.

(09-25-2019 01:14 PM)Nittany_Bearcat Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 02:24 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Iowa is walking a very thin line of hypocrisy about fan behavior. They've had the reputation for the most hostile fans in the Big Ten for years.

From personal experience, this is absolutely true.

I've seen PSU play in every B1G stadium except Maryland (which I'm hitting Friday) and Rutgers. Many of those games have been in the post-Sandusky era. Iowa was the most unwelcoming bunch even before 2011, and in my 1 visit since (2017), they were absolutely vicious with the Sandusky stuff. The fans of other schools typically don't mention Sandusky AT ALL.

Maryland is just happy their football team is better than mediocre now. I was their last year and everyone was friendly. Rutgers you'll stand out from all of the empty seats.

(09-26-2019 08:44 AM)goofus Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 07:20 PM)texoma Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 01:01 PM)goofus Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 09:36 AM)texoma Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 10:07 PM)goofus Wrote:  I am surprised by the blame the victim mentality on this board.

With that said,, a better solution than canceling the series, would be to just leave the bands at home when they are visiting team. Iowa band stays home when team plays at ISU. ISU band stays home when team plays at Iowa.

Who is the victim? Sounds to me like the Iowa State fans were the victims of the Iowa band.

https://www.thegazette.com/subject/sport...s-20190920

reported accounts from band members that they experienced racial slurs, verbal and physical sexual harassment and assault, shoves that sent one woman to the hospital, and thrown objects leaving lasting bruises during last weekend’s Cy-Hawk rivalry.

It got really bad,” said Paige Pearson, 20, a UI junior who has played trumpet in the band for three years and was in the thick of it during the Sept. 14 rain-delayed football game at ISU

Pearson, who was present for the abuse and recounted it as the worst she’s experienced in her time with the band, said multiple band members have bruises from shoving, hitting and being struck by flying items.

Attacks included verbal and physical sexual abuse during the game, Pearson said. One female band member suffered fractured ribs and went to the hospital, she said

Fans pulled at the drum line and attacked members, Knopp said. They threw beer cans and shook and sprayed them at the members’ feet as they marched

People say a lot of things. Why didn't the band use the exit they were advised to. From the accounts I have read it sounds like the
Band started the pushing and shoving and the Iowa State fans pushed back.

I believe that's how Iowa and Iowa St administrators wanted to originally play this, issuing a joint statement that both sides have acted like jerks throughout the years and both sides need to do better. But that did not go over well with the Iowa band, who threw a fit and started insisting on social media that they were seriously mistreated at the ISU game. That's when the Iowa administrators decided they did not take the Iowa bands claims serious enough. Kind of like the posters on this board are not taking the claims of the Iowa band serious.

Probably because it appears the Band started the ruckus and therefore their complaints seem hollow to posters on this board. However, college administrators don't dare ignore any complaint by the students.

(09-26-2019 09:55 AM)texoma Wrote:  

(09-26-2019 08:44 AM)goofus Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 07:20 PM)texoma Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 01:01 PM)goofus Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 09:36 AM)texoma Wrote:  Who is the victim? Sounds to me like the Iowa State fans were the victims of the Iowa band.

https://www.thegazette.com/subject/sport...s-20190920

reported accounts from band members that they experienced racial slurs, verbal and physical sexual harassment and assault, shoves that sent one woman to the hospital, and thrown objects leaving lasting bruises during last weekend’s Cy-Hawk rivalry.

It got really bad,” said Paige Pearson, 20, a UI junior who has played trumpet in the band for three years and was in the thick of it during the Sept. 14 rain-delayed football game at ISU

Pearson, who was present for the abuse and recounted it as the worst she’s experienced in her time with the band, said multiple band members have bruises from shoving, hitting and being struck by flying items.

Attacks included verbal and physical sexual abuse during the game, Pearson said. One female band member suffered fractured ribs and went to the hospital, she said

Fans pulled at the drum line and attacked members, Knopp said. They threw beer cans and shook and sprayed them at the members’ feet as they marched

People say a lot of things. Why didn't the band use the exit they were advised to. From the accounts I have read it sounds like the
Band started the pushing and shoving and the Iowa State fans pushed back.

I believe that's how Iowa and Iowa St administrators wanted to originally play this, issuing a joint statement that both sides have acted like jerks throughout the years and both sides need to do better. But that did not go over well with the Iowa band, who threw a fit and started insisting on social media that they were seriously mistreated at the ISU game. That's when the Iowa administrators decided they did not take the Iowa bands claims serious enough. Kind of like the posters on this board are not taking the claims of the Iowa band serious.

Probably because it appears the Band started the ruckus and therefore their complaints seem hollow to posters on this board. However, college administrators don't dare ignore any complaint by the students.

Thank you for acknowledging that the band members complaints should be taken seriously and investigated by the adminstrators.

There seem to be multiple versions out there what happened. Here is another version I have read.

the Iowa band was not given any information when it came to exiting the stadium and while waiting for the crowds to clear were yelled at by an ISU official to get out of the stadium so they went to the exit that was the closest to where their buses were parked which turned out to be the wrong exit.

Also it should be noted Iowa band members have insisted that attacks included verbal and physical abuse during the game.

(09-26-2019 12:57 PM)goofus Wrote:  

(09-26-2019 09:55 AM)texoma Wrote:  

(09-26-2019 08:44 AM)goofus Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 07:20 PM)texoma Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 01:01 PM)goofus Wrote:  https://www.thegazette.com/subject/sport...s-20190920

reported accounts from band members that they experienced racial slurs, verbal and physical sexual harassment and assault, shoves that sent one woman to the hospital, and thrown objects leaving lasting bruises during last weekend’s Cy-Hawk rivalry.

It got really bad,” said Paige Pearson, 20, a UI junior who has played trumpet in the band for three years and was in the thick of it during the Sept. 14 rain-delayed football game at ISU

Pearson, who was present for the abuse and recounted it as the worst she’s experienced in her time with the band, said multiple band members have bruises from shoving, hitting and being struck by flying items.

Attacks included verbal and physical sexual abuse during the game, Pearson said. One female band member suffered fractured ribs and went to the hospital, she said

Fans pulled at the drum line and attacked members, Knopp said. They threw beer cans and shook and sprayed them at the members’ feet as they marched

People say a lot of things. Why didn't the band use the exit they were advised to. From the accounts I have read it sounds like the
Band started the pushing and shoving and the Iowa State fans pushed back.

I believe that's how Iowa and Iowa St administrators wanted to originally play this, issuing a joint statement that both sides have acted like jerks throughout the years and both sides need to do better. But that did not go over well with the Iowa band, who threw a fit and started insisting on social media that they were seriously mistreated at the ISU game. That's when the Iowa administrators decided they did not take the Iowa bands claims serious enough. Kind of like the posters on this board are not taking the claims of the Iowa band serious.

Probably because it appears the Band started the ruckus and therefore their complaints seem hollow to posters on this board. However, college administrators don't dare ignore any complaint by the students.

Thank you for acknowledging that the band members complaints should be taken seriously and investigated by the adminstrators.

There seem to be multiple versions out there what happened. Here is another version I have read.

the Iowa band was not given any information when it came to exiting the stadium and while waiting for the crowds to clear were yelled at by an ISU official to get out of the stadium so they went to the exit that was the closest to where their buses were parked which turned out to be the wrong exit.

Also it should be noted Iowa band members have insisted that attacks included verbal and physical abuse during the game.

How could there have been "physical abuse" during the game?

In English, this means that ISU fans went into the Iowa band's seats and hit Iowa band members. While the game was going on. Where's the security report about this? If there's no security report, and no photos of extra security around the band, then clearly the Iowa band members and band director did not think it was serious enough to merit any action.

(09-26-2019 12:57 PM)goofus Wrote:  

(09-26-2019 09:55 AM)texoma Wrote:  

(09-26-2019 08:44 AM)goofus Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 07:20 PM)texoma Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 01:01 PM)goofus Wrote:  https://www.thegazette.com/subject/sport...s-20190920

reported accounts from band members that they experienced racial slurs, verbal and physical sexual harassment and assault, shoves that sent one woman to the hospital, and thrown objects leaving lasting bruises during last weekend’s Cy-Hawk rivalry.

It got really bad,” said Paige Pearson, 20, a UI junior who has played trumpet in the band for three years and was in the thick of it during the Sept. 14 rain-delayed football game at ISU

Pearson, who was present for the abuse and recounted it as the worst she’s experienced in her time with the band, said multiple band members have bruises from shoving, hitting and being struck by flying items.

Attacks included verbal and physical sexual abuse during the game, Pearson said. One female band member suffered fractured ribs and went to the hospital, she said

Fans pulled at the drum line and attacked members, Knopp said. They threw beer cans and shook and sprayed them at the members’ feet as they marched

People say a lot of things. Why didn't the band use the exit they were advised to. From the accounts I have read it sounds like the
Band started the pushing and shoving and the Iowa State fans pushed back.

I believe that's how Iowa and Iowa St administrators wanted to originally play this, issuing a joint statement that both sides have acted like jerks throughout the years and both sides need to do better. But that did not go over well with the Iowa band, who threw a fit and started insisting on social media that they were seriously mistreated at the ISU game. That's when the Iowa administrators decided they did not take the Iowa bands claims serious enough. Kind of like the posters on this board are not taking the claims of the Iowa band serious.

Probably because it appears the Band started the ruckus and therefore their complaints seem hollow to posters on this board. However, college administrators don't dare ignore any complaint by the students.

Thank you for acknowledging that the band members complaints should be taken seriously and investigated by the adminstrators.

There seem to be multiple versions out there what happened. Here is another version I have read.

the Iowa band was not given any information when it came to exiting the stadium and while waiting for the crowds to clear were yelled at by an ISU official to get out of the stadium so they went to the exit that was the closest to where their buses were parked which turned out to be the wrong exit.

Also it should be noted Iowa band members have insisted that attacks included verbal and physical abuse during the game.

Not what I said. I said the administrators don't dare ignore complaints by the students. That does not mean they believe them. On college campuses we now have the inmates running the asylum, so administrators have to treat the students with kid gloves

Like I said, people can say anything, you can read any version. You seem to be the only one on this board taking the Iowa band students side, which is understandable since you are an Iowa fan. I do not have a dog in this fight and you do. So I will leave it at that.

Have a nice day.

I want to chime in on this if I may.

First of all, the state of Iowa needs this game. So the higher ups at Iowa need to zip it.

Second, this game with the weather issues was just totally unique from the get go.

Third, it's all he said she said at this point so does anybody know if the band was truly told to exit a certain area? Or that band members were truly injured or harrassed? I mean with all the delays did logistics change?

Fourth, you fools on here talking down another's fanbase are probably always the ones in society claiming you're the victim. Every single damn fanbase has d**ks among them.

Penn State fan, give it a rest buddy. See Ohio State not sending the band to State College one year due to being splattered by piss a previous year.

I'm not being hypocritical, I'll tell you straight up that Ohio State has some real idiots for fans. No matter who you are, you do too!

Keep Iowa-Iowa State! I have a feeling folks running that State will put a stop to that crazy talk real soon.

ANF!!!