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RE: Why doesn’t Southern Miss and Marshall join the Sun Belt?
(10-18-2019 02:23 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  
(10-15-2019 05:13 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  
(10-15-2019 11:54 AM)Cyniclone Wrote:  
(10-15-2019 11:42 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  I'm curious what happens to CUSA-East if let's say that the AAC does poach AFA from the MWC. Does the MWC reload with Rice? The CUSA try to reload with TxSt? What does CUSA-East feel about that situation.

If the MWC loses AFA, my guess is they pick up the 11-team scheduling waiver gauntlet from the AAC, which would no longer need it but might support it anyway to hedge their bets if it loses another school down the line.


The MWC would not pick up Rice as they are at best lousy in football and basketball. They would need someone good in at least one of those, possibly UTEP oR NMSU, or someone else. I do not see the MW losing AFA in the near future so this is all bloviating.

AFA is one of only 7 MWC baseball-playing schools. Rice has a prominent baseball program, while UTEP does not sponsor baseball. Rice also brings a strong women’s basketball program ranked in the pre-season Top 25.

Football is crawling back from lousy, and was the C-USA champion as recently as 2013. Rice also beat Air Force and Fresno State in bowl games this decade. Rice has home and home football series scheduled with Boise State and BYU. Rice had home P5 football games (Texas, Baylor, Wake Forest) that were all picked up in 2019 for CBS-SN national broadcasts under the C-USA media contract, and LSU, Northwestern, Army, BYU and Houston in the future.

I agree with Yosef that the MWC would take a look at Rice. Would Rice jump as the only Texas school in the MWC?

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10-18-2019 06:12 PM
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Why doesn’t Southern Miss and Marshall join the Sun Belt?
(10-18-2019 02:23 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  
(10-15-2019 05:13 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  
(10-15-2019 11:54 AM)Cyniclone Wrote:  
(10-15-2019 11:42 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  I'm curious what happens to CUSA-East if let's say that the AAC does poach AFA from the MWC. Does the MWC reload with Rice? The CUSA try to reload with TxSt? What does CUSA-East feel about that situation.

If the MWC loses AFA, my guess is they pick up the 11-team scheduling waiver gauntlet from the AAC, which would no longer need it but might support it anyway to hedge their bets if it loses another school down the line.


The MWC would not pick up Rice as they are at best lousy in football and basketball. They would need someone good in at least one of those, possibly UTEP oR NMSU, or someone else. I do not see the MW losing AFA in the near future so this is all bloviating.

AFA is one of only 7 MWC baseball-playing schools. Rice has a prominent baseball program, while UTEP does not sponsor baseball. Rice also brings a strong women’s basketball program ranked in the pre-season Top 25.

Football is crawling back from lousy, and was the C-USA champion as recently as 2013. Rice also beat Air Force and Fresno State in bowl games this decade. Rice has home and home football series scheduled with Boise State and BYU. Rice had home P5 football games (Texas, Baylor, Wake Forest) that were all picked up in 2019 for CBS-SN national broadcasts under the C-USA media contract, and LSU, Northwestern, Army, BYU and Houston in the future.

I agree with Yosef that the MWC would take a look at Rice. Would Rice jump as the only Texas school in the MWC?


Why would the MWC want Rice? They suck in football and basketball, if they came baseball only, maybe.


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RE: Why doesn’t Southern Miss and Marshall join the Sun Belt?
(10-18-2019 08:03 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 02:23 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  
(10-15-2019 05:13 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  
(10-15-2019 11:54 AM)Cyniclone Wrote:  
(10-15-2019 11:42 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  I'm curious what happens to CUSA-East if let's say that the AAC does poach AFA from the MWC. Does the MWC reload with Rice? The CUSA try to reload with TxSt? What does CUSA-East feel about that situation.

If the MWC loses AFA, my guess is they pick up the 11-team scheduling waiver gauntlet from the AAC, which would no longer need it but might support it anyway to hedge their bets if it loses another school down the line.


The MWC would not pick up Rice as they are at best lousy in football and basketball. They would need someone good in at least one of those, possibly UTEP oR NMSU, or someone else. I do not see the MW losing AFA in the near future so this is all bloviating.

AFA is one of only 7 MWC baseball-playing schools. Rice has a prominent baseball program, while UTEP does not sponsor baseball. Rice also brings a strong women’s basketball program ranked in the pre-season Top 25.

Football is crawling back from lousy, and was the C-USA champion as recently as 2013. Rice also beat Air Force and Fresno State in bowl games this decade. Rice has home and home football series scheduled with Boise State and BYU. Rice had home P5 football games (Texas, Baylor, Wake Forest) that were all picked up in 2019 for CBS-SN national broadcasts under the C-USA media contract, and LSU, Northwestern, Army, BYU and Houston in the future.

I agree with Yosef that the MWC would take a look at Rice. Would Rice jump as the only Texas school in the MWC?


Why would the MWC want Rice? They suck in football and basketball, if they came baseball only, maybe.


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10-19-2019 02:14 PM
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RE: Why doesn’t Southern Miss and Marshall join the Sun Belt?
(10-18-2019 08:03 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 02:23 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  
(10-15-2019 05:13 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  
(10-15-2019 11:54 AM)Cyniclone Wrote:  
(10-15-2019 11:42 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  I'm curious what happens to CUSA-East if let's say that the AAC does poach AFA from the MWC. Does the MWC reload with Rice? The CUSA try to reload with TxSt? What does CUSA-East feel about that situation.

If the MWC loses AFA, my guess is they pick up the 11-team scheduling waiver gauntlet from the AAC, which would no longer need it but might support it anyway to hedge their bets if it loses another school down the line.


The MWC would not pick up Rice as they are at best lousy in football and basketball. They would need someone good in at least one of those, possibly UTEP oR NMSU, or someone else. I do not see the MW losing AFA in the near future so this is all bloviating.

AFA is one of only 7 MWC baseball-playing schools. Rice has a prominent baseball program, while UTEP does not sponsor baseball. Rice also brings a strong women’s basketball program ranked in the pre-season Top 25.

Football is crawling back from lousy, and was the C-USA champion as recently as 2013. Rice also beat Air Force and Fresno State in bowl games this decade. Rice has home and home football series scheduled with Boise State and BYU. Rice had home P5 football games (Texas, Baylor, Wake Forest) that were all picked up in 2019 for CBS-SN national broadcasts under the C-USA media contract, and LSU, Northwestern, Army, BYU and Houston in the future.

I agree with Yosef that the MWC would take a look at Rice. Would Rice jump as the only Texas school in the MWC?


Why would the MWC want Rice? They suck in football and basketball, if they came baseball only, maybe.


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One word. Academics.

Presidents do the voting not athletic directors and coaches.

It’s the reason why Liberty had no other choice than to buy its path to independence once the Sun Belt and C-USA made it clear they were not interested. It’s the reason why Grand Canyon will never be in the WCC, Big West and MWC. Academics.
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Why doesn’t Southern Miss and Marshall join the Sun Belt?
(10-19-2019 02:20 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 08:03 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 02:23 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  
(10-15-2019 05:13 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  
(10-15-2019 11:54 AM)Cyniclone Wrote:  If the MWC loses AFA, my guess is they pick up the 11-team scheduling waiver gauntlet from the AAC, which would no longer need it but might support it anyway to hedge their bets if it loses another school down the line.


The MWC would not pick up Rice as they are at best lousy in football and basketball. They would need someone good in at least one of those, possibly UTEP oR NMSU, or someone else. I do not see the MW losing AFA in the near future so this is all bloviating.

AFA is one of only 7 MWC baseball-playing schools. Rice has a prominent baseball program, while UTEP does not sponsor baseball. Rice also brings a strong women’s basketball program ranked in the pre-season Top 25.

Football is crawling back from lousy, and was the C-USA champion as recently as 2013. Rice also beat Air Force and Fresno State in bowl games this decade. Rice has home and home football series scheduled with Boise State and BYU. Rice had home P5 football games (Texas, Baylor, Wake Forest) that were all picked up in 2019 for CBS-SN national broadcasts under the C-USA media contract, and LSU, Northwestern, Army, BYU and Houston in the future.

I agree with Yosef that the MWC would take a look at Rice. Would Rice jump as the only Texas school in the MWC?


Why would the MWC want Rice? They suck in football and basketball, if they came baseball only, maybe.


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One word. Academics.

Presidents do the voting not athletic directors and coaches.

It’s the reason why Liberty had no other choice than to buy its path to independence once the Sun Belt and C-USA made it clear they were not interested. It’s the reason why Grand Canyon will never be in the WCC, Big West and MWC. Academics.


I hear the academic stuff all the time and it is used mostly as an excuse to deny someone. The key word now is money. Rice brings such poor hoops and football they do not bring money.

If Rice’s academics were so vital, they would not be in CUSA presently.


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