The boys were in the perfect position and our coaching staff gave it away. Time for them all to go.
(09-21-2019 09:17 PM)bluelotmayor Wrote: The boys were in the perfect position and our coaching staff gave it away. Time for them all to go.
Don't let your emotions get the best of you. Dumb decision? Sure, but I do understand what he was trying to do.
(09-21-2019 09:30 PM)Old Blue Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:17 PM)bluelotmayor Wrote: The boys were in the perfect position and our coaching staff gave it away. Time for them all to go.
Don't let your emotions get the best of you. Dumb decision? Sure, but I do understand what he was trying to do.
Not at all. We were dominating through the first half and decided to go for fourth and almost 2 from inside 30. Unless he was betting with Vegas, you punt the ball
(09-21-2019 09:38 PM)bluelotmayor Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:30 PM)Old Blue Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:17 PM)bluelotmayor Wrote: The boys were in the perfect position and our coaching staff gave it away. Time for them all to go.
Don't let your emotions get the best of you. Dumb decision? Sure, but I do understand what he was trying to do.
Not at all. We were dominating through the first half and decided to go for fourth and almost 2 from inside 30. Unless he was betting with Vegas, you punt the ball
Yeah, why couldn't the guys who coached the first half finish the game?
(09-21-2019 09:38 PM)bluelotmayor Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:30 PM)Old Blue Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:17 PM)bluelotmayor Wrote: The boys were in the perfect position and our coaching staff gave it away. Time for them all to go.
Don't let your emotions get the best of you. Dumb decision? Sure, but I do understand what he was trying to do.
Not at all. We were dominating through the first half and decided to go for fourth and almost 2 from inside 30. Unless he was betting with Vegas, you punt the ball
They got completely steam rolled the entire second half. They only got a few first downs the entire half. They were getting pushed around. You weren’t watching. As the game went on uva was getting whatever they wanted on both sides. Odu got no push at all up front after they scored in the second quarter.
Embarrassing and pathetic.
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And hire who?
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Dumb post!!
(09-21-2019 09:44 PM)Prideofalion Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:38 PM)bluelotmayor Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:30 PM)Old Blue Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:17 PM)bluelotmayor Wrote: The boys were in the perfect position and our coaching staff gave it away. Time for them all to go.
Don't let your emotions get the best of you. Dumb decision? Sure, but I do understand what he was trying to do.
Not at all. We were dominating through the first half and decided to go for fourth and almost 2 from inside 30. Unless he was betting with Vegas, you punt the ball
They got completely steam rolled the entire second half. They only got a few first downs the entire half. They were getting pushed around. You weren’t watching. As the game went on uva was getting whatever they wanted on both sides. Odu got no push at all up front after they scored in the second quarter.
Yes, it's called reality.
but we should get a new OC
(09-21-2019 09:44 PM)Prideofalion Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:38 PM)bluelotmayor Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:30 PM)Old Blue Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:17 PM)bluelotmayor Wrote: The boys were in the perfect position and our coaching staff gave it away. Time for them all to go.
Don't let your emotions get the best of you. Dumb decision? Sure, but I do understand what he was trying to do.
Not at all. We were dominating through the first half and decided to go for fourth and almost 2 from inside 30. Unless he was betting with Vegas, you punt the ball
They got completely steam rolled the entire second half. They only got a few first downs the entire half. They were getting pushed around. You weren’t watching. As the game went on uva was getting whatever they wanted on both sides. Odu got no push at all up front after they scored in the second quarter.
Not watching? We were up 17-0 and went stupid. And to go for it on 4th and one inside the 30 is absolutely asinine. Nothing bit idiotic coaching to blame.
I’ve been a BW supporter for years but he’s recent decision say he is incapable of coaching in big games.
No adjustments whatsoever was the real crime committed tonight.
We punched them in the mouth and then they just grinded us down because we couldn’t adjust and wilder helping make it easy for them to take the lead was just absurd.
(09-21-2019 09:50 PM)bluelotmayor Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:44 PM)Prideofalion Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:38 PM)bluelotmayor Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:30 PM)Old Blue Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:17 PM)bluelotmayor Wrote: The boys were in the perfect position and our coaching staff gave it away. Time for them all to go.
Don't let your emotions get the best of you. Dumb decision? Sure, but I do understand what he was trying to do.
Not at all. We were dominating through the first half and decided to go for fourth and almost 2 from inside 30. Unless he was betting with Vegas, you punt the ball
They got completely steam rolled the entire second half. They only got a few first downs the entire half. They were getting pushed around. You weren’t watching. As the game went on uva was getting whatever they wanted on both sides. Odu got no push at all up front after they scored in the second quarter.
Not watching? We were up 17-0 and went stupid. And to go for it on 4th and one inside the 30 is absolutely asinine. Nothing bit idiotic coaching to blame.
I’ve been a BW supporter for years but he’s recent decision say he is incapable of coaching in big games.
Need Stone Smartt to get smarter.
(09-21-2019 09:46 PM)EverRespect Wrote: And hire who?
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Anyone that can play Madden. They’d know not to run a 4th and inches, QB read, out of shotgun.
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(09-21-2019 10:00 PM)dthomasODU_ Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:46 PM)EverRespect Wrote: And hire who?
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Anyone that can play Madden. They’d know not to run a 4th and inches, QB read, out of shotgun.
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(09-21-2019 10:00 PM)dthomasODU_ Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:46 PM)EverRespect Wrote: And hire who?
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Anyone that can play Madden. They’d know not to run a 4th and inches, QB read, out of shotgun.
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This is correct.
Going for it was a dumb idea. Running a shotgun draw instead of an under center qb sneak when you need inches is truly, insanely idiotic.
(09-21-2019 09:57 PM)Old Blue Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:50 PM)bluelotmayor Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:44 PM)Prideofalion Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:38 PM)bluelotmayor Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:30 PM)Old Blue Wrote: Don't let your emotions get the best of you. Dumb decision? Sure, but I do understand what he was trying to do.
Not at all. We were dominating through the first half and decided to go for fourth and almost 2 from inside 30. Unless he was betting with Vegas, you punt the ball
They got completely steam rolled the entire second half. They only got a few first downs the entire half. They were getting pushed around. You weren’t watching. As the game went on uva was getting whatever they wanted on both sides. Odu got no push at all up front after they scored in the second quarter.
Not watching? We were up 17-0 and went stupid. And to go for it on 4th and one inside the 30 is absolutely asinine. Nothing bit idiotic coaching to blame.
I’ve been a BW supporter for years but he’s recent decision say he is incapable of coaching in big games.
Need Stone Smartt to get smarter.
Can’t put it on the qb. Just horrible play calling and no adjustments in the second half.
Time for a change.
(09-21-2019 09:50 PM)bluelotmayor Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:44 PM)Prideofalion Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:38 PM)bluelotmayor Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:30 PM)Old Blue Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:17 PM)bluelotmayor Wrote: The boys were in the perfect position and our coaching staff gave it away. Time for them all to go.
Don't let your emotions get the best of you. Dumb decision? Sure, but I do understand what he was trying to do.
Not at all. We were dominating through the first half and decided to go for fourth and almost 2 from inside 30. Unless he was betting with Vegas, you punt the ball
They got completely steam rolled the entire second half. They only got a few first downs the entire half. They were getting pushed around. You weren’t watching. As the game went on uva was getting whatever they wanted on both sides. Odu got no push at all up front after they scored in the second quarter.
Not watching? We were up 17-0 and went stupid. And to go for it on 4th and one inside the 30 is absolutely asinine. Nothing bit idiotic coaching to blame.
I’ve been a BW supporter for years but he’s recent decision say he is incapable of coaching in big games.
Yes. Not watching. UVA was sleepwalking and then they woke up. It’s not the play calling people. UVA was stronger, faster and more athletic. Entire team got pushed around the entire second half. Quit fooling yourself. Y’all are just emotional. They ran circles around us by the end of the game. Quarterback had a few open receivers and didn’t even come close.
That call was beyond idiotic. That is why we lost this game.
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It’s funny, when you go outside of your comfort level and hire a defensive coordinator that you don’t know personally, you get exceptional results. But when you keep the same old tired offensive coordinator you’ve had for years, you get the same old tired results. Do you think maybe, just maybe, there is a correlation?
(09-21-2019 11:03 PM)Maryland Monarch Wrote: It’s funny, when you go outside of your comfort level and hire a defensive coordinator that you don’t know personally, you get exceptional results. But when you keep the same old tired offensive coordinator you’ve had for years, you get the same old tired results. Do you think maybe, just maybe, there is a correlation?
I don't know about y'all, i am very impressed with Blackwell. He has done an exceptional job in a short time frame. I am finally liking our defense and their ability to keep us in games. Kudos to Blackwell and its past time for us to get rid of BS and may be Bobby too if he still want to have this moron as OC.
(09-21-2019 09:50 PM)bluelotmayor Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:44 PM)Prideofalion Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:38 PM)bluelotmayor Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:30 PM)Old Blue Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:17 PM)bluelotmayor Wrote: The boys were in the perfect position and our coaching staff gave it away. Time for them all to go.
Don't let your emotions get the best of you. Dumb decision? Sure, but I do understand what he was trying to do.
Not at all. We were dominating through the first half and decided to go for fourth and almost 2 from inside 30. Unless he was betting with Vegas, you punt the ball
They got completely steam rolled the entire second half. They only got a few first downs the entire half. They were getting pushed around. You weren’t watching. As the game went on uva was getting whatever they wanted on both sides. Odu got no push at all up front after they scored in the second quarter.
Not watching? We were up 17-0 and went stupid. And to go for it on 4th and one inside the 30 is absolutely asinine. Nothing bit idiotic coaching to blame.
I’ve been a BW supporter for years but he’s recent decision say he is incapable of coaching in big games.
Big game? Whats so "BIG" about it? This team isn't going to the Orange Bowl fella. If they get the first down he's a genius, if not who gives a flying eff! Those guys were getting manhandled in the 2nd half and what happened honestly would have happened regardless. BW saw what was happening and he took a chance. No need for a "Fire BW" thread. You guys are ridiculous. As another poster said, "who you gonna hire?". This guy has character, integrity and an obvious love for his players and his school. Can't ask for much more!
I am proud of BW and our team!
(09-22-2019 05:44 AM)oduhoops71 Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:50 PM)bluelotmayor Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:44 PM)Prideofalion Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:38 PM)bluelotmayor Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:30 PM)Old Blue Wrote: Don't let your emotions get the best of you. Dumb decision? Sure, but I do understand what he was trying to do.
Not at all. We were dominating through the first half and decided to go for fourth and almost 2 from inside 30. Unless he was betting with Vegas, you punt the ball
They got completely steam rolled the entire second half. They only got a few first downs the entire half. They were getting pushed around. You weren’t watching. As the game went on uva was getting whatever they wanted on both sides. Odu got no push at all up front after they scored in the second quarter.
Not watching? We were up 17-0 and went stupid. And to go for it on 4th and one inside the 30 is absolutely asinine. Nothing bit idiotic coaching to blame.
I’ve been a BW supporter for years but he’s recent decision say he is incapable of coaching in big games.
Big game? Whats so "BIG" about it? This team isn't going to the Orange Bowl fella. If they get the first down he's a genius, if not who gives a flying eff! Those guys were getting manhandled in the 2nd half and what happened honestly would have happened regardless. BW saw what was happening and he took a chance. No need for a "Fire BW" thread. You guys are ridiculous. As another poster said, "who you gonna hire?". This guy has character, integrity and an obvious love for his players and his school. Can't ask for much more!
I am proud of BW and our team!
That is not accurate. At that point uva’s offense still had not done much against our defense. Trust the defense and punt. Bobby handed UVA the momentum on a silver platter. We were up three on our own 29 and yes we’re having trouble moving the ball. All the more reason to punt. BW deserves to have his decisions questioned,plus his loyalty to a man who is not up to his fbs peers
(09-22-2019 05:44 AM)oduhoops71 Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:50 PM)bluelotmayor Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:44 PM)Prideofalion Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:38 PM)bluelotmayor Wrote: (09-21-2019 09:30 PM)Old Blue Wrote: Don't let your emotions get the best of you. Dumb decision? Sure, but I do understand what he was trying to do.
Not at all. We were dominating through the first half and decided to go for fourth and almost 2 from inside 30. Unless he was betting with Vegas, you punt the ball
They got completely steam rolled the entire second half. They only got a few first downs the entire half. They were getting pushed around. You weren’t watching. As the game went on uva was getting whatever they wanted on both sides. Odu got no push at all up front after they scored in the second quarter.
Not watching? We were up 17-0 and went stupid. And to go for it on 4th and one inside the 30 is absolutely asinine. Nothing bit idiotic coaching to blame.
I’ve been a BW supporter for years but he’s recent decision say he is incapable of coaching in big games.
Big game? Whats so "BIG" about it? This team isn't going to the Orange Bowl fella. If they get the first down he's a genius, if not who gives a flying eff! Those guys were getting manhandled in the 2nd half and what happened honestly would have happened regardless. BW saw what was happening and he took a chance. No need for a "Fire BW" thread. You guys are ridiculous. As another poster said, "who you gonna hire?". This guy has character, integrity and an obvious love for his players and his school. Can't ask for much more!
I am proud of BW and our team!
I am not gonna argue he doesn't have any of those mentioned but would like to hear from you on why you think he loves the school. I am somewhat pissed that we lost this game but i am very impressed with what we showed on the field esp on the defense with that said its definitely a boneheaded decision and even dumber play call to get those few extra inches.
While leaving game many UVA fans commended our defense. Haven't had that happen, ever?
To me the moment the game switched was the kids decision to run out of the end zone for some reason and that turned into an immediate pick 6. It was a major uphill battle after that. It woke UVA up and their talent gap started to show. Take that away and we night have stayed on their chest long enough to eek a win out. They started manhandling the left side of the o line. Their speed was impressive. They should get that elusive win against VT this year.
(09-22-2019 09:05 AM)bit_9 Wrote: While leaving game many UVA fans commended our defense. Haven't had that happen, ever?
To me the moment the game switched was the kids decision to run out of the end zone for some reason and that turned into an immediate pick 6. It was a major uphill battle after that. It woke UVA up and their talent gap started to show. Take that away and we night have stayed on their chest long enough to eek a win out. They started manhandling the left side of the o line. Their speed was impressive. They should get that elusive win against VT this year.
Indeed. Astute observation.
(09-22-2019 09:08 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote: (09-22-2019 09:05 AM)bit_9 Wrote: While leaving game many UVA fans commended our defense. Haven't had that happen, ever?
To me the moment the game switched was the kids decision to run out of the end zone for some reason and that turned into an immediate pick 6. It was a major uphill battle after that. It woke UVA up and their talent gap started to show. Take that away and we night have stayed on their chest long enough to eek a win out. They started manhandling the left side of the o line. Their speed was impressive. They should get that elusive win against VT this year.
Indeed. Astute observation.
Thx. I'll add it doesn't excuse the 4th down shotgun play call on our own 30. That was just obsurd. Those 2 decisions sealed our fate. But that "waking up the sleeping giant" moment was the series that led to the pick 6.
Having said that the weekly improvement and defense is looking much faster to the ball and only a couple missed tackles. Kudos to them! And Friday if you told me we'd be leading UVA for 3 quarters and dominate all stats in the first half I'd be like "ok!?"
(09-22-2019 09:24 AM)bit_9 Wrote: (09-22-2019 09:08 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote: (09-22-2019 09:05 AM)bit_9 Wrote: While leaving game many UVA fans commended our defense. Haven't had that happen, ever?
To me the moment the game switched was the kids decision to run out of the end zone for some reason and that turned into an immediate pick 6. It was a major uphill battle after that. It woke UVA up and their talent gap started to show. Take that away and we night have stayed on their chest long enough to eek a win out. They started manhandling the left side of the o line. Their speed was impressive. They should get that elusive win against VT this year.
Indeed. Astute observation.
Thx. I'll add it doesn't excuse the 4th down shotgun play call on our own 30. That was just obsurd. Those 2 decisions sealed our fate. But that "waking up the sleeping giant" moment was the series that led to the pick 6.
Having said that the weekly improvement and defense is looking much faster to the ball and only a couple missed tackles. Kudos to them! And Friday if you told me we'd be leading UVA for 3 quarters and dominate all stats in the first half I'd be like "ok!?"
As you noted re the OL, we were not even at full strength on the OL for that play. I'll post this again here, because there was very little upside, even in theory, to the 4th and 1 at our own 29.
Even If you make it, ok, but you still might go three and out the next series.
Since it was so deep and just 1 yard, it was not going to be a huge emotional hit on the UVA defense had we made it.
The ROI percentages are low even if you make it.
However, If you
don't make it:
1. You guarantee UVA a score and almost surely the win.
2. You send a negative message to your own defense
3. You deflate your own team's morale
4. You give the opposing team a big emotional boost
VERY, VERY, VERY bad play call.
Bad decision. Keep the Coach. Win the division...
(09-21-2019 09:46 PM)EverRespect Wrote: And hire who?
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Jim Harbaugh might be available soon.
Don’t fire him, but let him know if he goes for it on 4th down on our side of the field again he will be fired. This isn’t madden or high school football.
(09-22-2019 03:01 PM)ODU2011 Wrote: Don’t fire him, but let him know if he goes for it on 4th down on our side of the field again he will be fired. This isn’t madden or high school football.
I would have gone for it on 4th and one at this point. Somethings in football you have to be able to do when the game is basically over and that is get one yard. Hell Even Smartt agreed with the call.
(09-22-2019 06:53 PM)odu83alumni Wrote: (09-22-2019 03:01 PM)ODU2011 Wrote: Don’t fire him, but let him know if he goes for it on 4th down on our side of the field again he will be fired. This isn’t madden or high school football.
I would have gone for it on 4th and one at this point. Somethings in football you have to be able to do when the game is basically over and that is get one yard. Hell Even Smartt agreed with the call.
I understand and at some level support the decision to go for it because you're not going beat Virginia scoring 17 points, and your offense needs a small win to get some much-needed momentum. But the shotgun keeper is a curse on this program. It works every once in a blue moon but you have to establish a traditional 4th-and-short program before you can slip that one in. Don't overthink it; put the biggest guys you have in there and let the QB sneak it in.
(09-22-2019 09:52 PM)Cyniclone Wrote: (09-22-2019 06:53 PM)odu83alumni Wrote: (09-22-2019 03:01 PM)ODU2011 Wrote: Don’t fire him, but let him know if he goes for it on 4th down on our side of the field again he will be fired. This isn’t madden or high school football.
I would have gone for it on 4th and one at this point. Somethings in football you have to be able to do when the game is basically over and that is get one yard. Hell Even Smartt agreed with the call.
I understand and at some level support the decision to go for it because you're not going beat Virginia scoring 17 points, and your offense needs a small win to get some much-needed momentum. But the shotgun keeper is a curse on this program. It works every once in a blue moon but you have to establish a traditional 4th-and-short program before you can slip that one in. Don't overthink it; put the biggest guys you have in there and let the QB sneak it in.
There is some merit to that. But, to get a QB sneak, you have to trust your big guys will be able to get some movement on the DL. There is no misdirection, just push the DL back. We also dont practice with a QB under center so they would need to put plays in for that (outside of the TE handoffs vs. VT, I don't think we ever have done that)
Im not saying I disagree with you, I would QB sneak it almost every time on 4th and 1, but the playcall looks worse because Smartt hesitated at the LOS instead of just taking it up the gut.
To me this week is when you see if Wilder should be gone or not. If the team comes out with poor effort Bobby should be fired this Sunday. If the team comes out with the same effort as we saw Saturday then maybe that proves the team believes in themselves and the staff.
(09-23-2019 06:57 AM)Gilesfan Wrote: (09-22-2019 09:52 PM)Cyniclone Wrote: (09-22-2019 06:53 PM)odu83alumni Wrote: (09-22-2019 03:01 PM)ODU2011 Wrote: Don’t fire him, but let him know if he goes for it on 4th down on our side of the field again he will be fired. This isn’t madden or high school football.
I would have gone for it on 4th and one at this point. Somethings in football you have to be able to do when the game is basically over and that is get one yard. Hell Even Smartt agreed with the call.
I understand and at some level support the decision to go for it because you're not going beat Virginia scoring 17 points, and your offense needs a small win to get some much-needed momentum. But the shotgun keeper is a curse on this program. It works every once in a blue moon but you have to establish a traditional 4th-and-short program before you can slip that one in. Don't overthink it; put the biggest guys you have in there and let the QB sneak it in.
There is some merit to that. But, to get a QB sneak, you have to trust your big guys will be able to get some movement on the DL. There is no misdirection, just push the DL back. We also dont practice with a QB under center so they would need to put plays in for that (outside of the TE handoffs vs. VT, I don't think we ever have done that)
Im not saying I disagree with you, I would QB sneak it almost every time on 4th and 1, but the playcall looks worse because Smartt hesitated at the LOS instead of just taking it up the gut.
They have run a couple plays under center this year.
In years past I would have agreed with you that you don't slide under center because it was not something they have ever done, but this year they are presumably practicing it since we have seen it in a game, and that play was the perfect time for it. You have a big strong QB. Get under center and try to muscle 6 inches for the 1st down.
(09-23-2019 09:13 AM)Monarchblue Wrote: (09-23-2019 06:57 AM)Gilesfan Wrote: (09-22-2019 09:52 PM)Cyniclone Wrote: (09-22-2019 06:53 PM)odu83alumni Wrote: (09-22-2019 03:01 PM)ODU2011 Wrote: Don’t fire him, but let him know if he goes for it on 4th down on our side of the field again he will be fired. This isn’t madden or high school football.
I would have gone for it on 4th and one at this point. Somethings in football you have to be able to do when the game is basically over and that is get one yard. Hell Even Smartt agreed with the call.
I understand and at some level support the decision to go for it because you're not going beat Virginia scoring 17 points, and your offense needs a small win to get some much-needed momentum. But the shotgun keeper is a curse on this program. It works every once in a blue moon but you have to establish a traditional 4th-and-short program before you can slip that one in. Don't overthink it; put the biggest guys you have in there and let the QB sneak it in.
There is some merit to that. But, to get a QB sneak, you have to trust your big guys will be able to get some movement on the DL. There is no misdirection, just push the DL back. We also dont practice with a QB under center so they would need to put plays in for that (outside of the TE handoffs vs. VT, I don't think we ever have done that)
Im not saying I disagree with you, I would QB sneak it almost every time on 4th and 1, but the playcall looks worse because Smartt hesitated at the LOS instead of just taking it up the gut.
They have run a couple plays under center this year.
In years past I would have agreed with you that you don't slide under center because it was not something they have ever done, but this year they are presumably practicing it since we have seen it in a game, and that play was the perfect time for it. You have a big strong QB. Get under center and try to muscle 6 inches for the 1st down.
Yeah, they ran 3-4 plays under center against VT. They were all designed for the TE jet sweep. Those plays were put in for VT and I'm not sure they have practiced them outside of that. (not saying they shouldn't)
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Welcome back everyone!
The coaching effort makes the tanking job by the Miami Dolphins look like they are the New England Patriots.
He HAS to go. All of them need to go. We need a complete fresh start.
(09-28-2019 08:24 PM)LetsGoODU Wrote: He HAS to go. All of them need to go. We need a complete fresh start.
It's not happening. We can't afford the buy out unless you want to pay him off. That's the stone cold truth. BW will be with us through at least 2020.
What a nightmare
ODU vs UVA 1st half was amazing. Where was that team this game? Where was that coaching?
(09-28-2019 08:40 PM)GhentFan Wrote: ODU vs UVA 1st half was amazing. Where was that team this game? Where was that coaching?
It took a half for UVA to figure out what everyone knows, that we have no passing game. Once they figured that out, we didn't sniff another score.
(09-28-2019 08:31 PM)The Flagship Wrote: (09-28-2019 08:24 PM)LetsGoODU Wrote: He HAS to go. All of them need to go. We need a complete fresh start.
It's not happening. We can't afford the buy out unless you want to pay him off. That's the stone cold truth. BW will be with us through at least 2020.
On some level, he's earned that. But 2020 has to be Bowl or Bust for BW and company.
(09-28-2019 08:56 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote: (09-28-2019 08:31 PM)The Flagship Wrote: (09-28-2019 08:24 PM)LetsGoODU Wrote: He HAS to go. All of them need to go. We need a complete fresh start.
It's not happening. We can't afford the buy out unless you want to pay him off. That's the stone cold truth. BW will be with us through at least 2020.
On some level, he's earned that. But 2020 has to be Bowl or Bust for BW and company.
I think it will certainly be his make or break year. And we may be pretty decent if we can pick up some key grad transfers.
(09-28-2019 08:56 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote: (09-28-2019 08:31 PM)The Flagship Wrote: (09-28-2019 08:24 PM)LetsGoODU Wrote: He HAS to go. All of them need to go. We need a complete fresh start.
It's not happening. We can't afford the buy out unless you want to pay him off. That's the stone cold truth. BW will be with us through at least 2020.
On some level, he's earned that. But 2020 has to be Bowl or Bust for BW and company.
That mentality of “next year this has to happen” has to stop. He can’t keep up at this level. Love what he did to get us started but the act is over. He can’t hang.
What plays do you call when your offensive line can’t block. Asking for a friend. His name is Brian Scott.
(09-28-2019 09:01 PM)LetsGoODU Wrote: (09-28-2019 08:56 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote: (09-28-2019 08:31 PM)The Flagship Wrote: (09-28-2019 08:24 PM)LetsGoODU Wrote: He HAS to go. All of them need to go. We need a complete fresh start.
It's not happening. We can't afford the buy out unless you want to pay him off. That's the stone cold truth. BW will be with us through at least 2020.
On some level, he's earned that. But 2020 has to be Bowl or Bust for BW and company.
That mentality of “next year this has to happen” has to stop. He can’t keep up at this level. Love what he did to get us started but the act is over. He can’t hang.
Love Bobby, but three losing seasons in a row? That's going to be hard to take.
(09-28-2019 09:21 PM)odufansam Wrote: What plays do you call when your offensive line can’t block. Asking for a friend. His name is Brian Scott.
He is the offensive line coach and o coordinator so you would think he'd have an idea lol. If the play calling and the o line are to blame then I see a common denominator.
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(09-28-2019 09:22 PM)Old Blue Wrote: (09-28-2019 09:01 PM)LetsGoODU Wrote: (09-28-2019 08:56 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote: (09-28-2019 08:31 PM)The Flagship Wrote: (09-28-2019 08:24 PM)LetsGoODU Wrote: He HAS to go. All of them need to go. We need a complete fresh start.
It's not happening. We can't afford the buy out unless you want to pay him off. That's the stone cold truth. BW will be with us through at least 2020.
On some level, he's earned that. But 2020 has to be Bowl or Bust for BW and company.
That mentality of “next year this has to happen” has to stop. He can’t keep up at this level. Love what he did to get us started but the act is over. He can’t hang.
Love Bobby, but three losing seasons in a row? That's going to be hard to take.
Had to turn off the coaches show because I couldn't stand to listen to him talk about only needing 1 or 2 more plays.
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(09-28-2019 08:31 PM)The Flagship Wrote: (09-28-2019 08:24 PM)LetsGoODU Wrote: He HAS to go. All of them need to go. We need a complete fresh start.
It's not happening. We can't afford the buy out unless you want to pay him off. That's the stone cold truth. BW will be with us through at least 2020.
His buyout (as of Dec 2nd or whatever the date he signed his extension) will be extremely manageable.
I suspect if things continue, Wood will start talking with ODAF and other big donors about obtaining the cash to get rid of him.
The key is waiting until there is only one year (to the day) left on his contract, because the buyout drops significantly
(09-28-2019 09:24 PM)benny_t Wrote: (09-28-2019 09:22 PM)Old Blue Wrote: (09-28-2019 09:01 PM)LetsGoODU Wrote: (09-28-2019 08:56 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote: (09-28-2019 08:31 PM)The Flagship Wrote: It's not happening. We can't afford the buy out unless you want to pay him off. That's the stone cold truth. BW will be with us through at least 2020.
On some level, he's earned that. But 2020 has to be Bowl or Bust for BW and company.
That mentality of “next year this has to happen” has to stop. He can’t keep up at this level. Love what he did to get us started but the act is over. He can’t hang.
Love Bobby, but three losing seasons in a row? That's going to be hard to take.
Had to turn off the coaches show because I couldn't stand to listen to him talk about only needing 1 or 2 more plays.
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That's funny because I had to do the same thing. He was saying that the game just came down to 3 plays that cost ODU the victory. Well, Duh!!!
Does the ECU coach get to pick out 3 plays that he would like to have eliminated from the game as well, or just Bobby? You think their 3 plays might change the hypothetical outcome back to ECU winning (again)?
We can talk about the play of the QB, the running backs, the wide receivers, the offensive line, the offensive play calling, the usage of the time outs, and the apparent lack of depth at so many key positions. The guy that controls it all is the head coach. The buck stops there.
Can Selig force BW to fire Scott mid-season or do the assistant coaches have buyouts too? I like what Blackwell has done with the defense. I would hate to see him go after one year. Because Scott can't put together anything more than a 3 and out on every possession, the defense can't stay off the field long enough to get a breather and make any necessary adjustments.
(09-28-2019 09:21 PM)odufansam Wrote: What plays do you call when your offensive line can’t block. Asking for a friend. His name is Brian Scott.
Typical ODU. He should have phoned a friend from the press box with the question during the game. It's too late now.
By the way ....... This ODU team is a very fortunate late game victory at home against FCS opponent Norfolk State from being 0-4, and maybe the worst team in BCS. They might be anyway.
(09-28-2019 09:22 PM)benny_t Wrote: (09-28-2019 09:21 PM)odufansam Wrote: What plays do you call when your offensive line can’t block. Asking for a friend. His name is Brian Scott.
He is the offensive line coach and o coordinator so you would think he'd have an idea lol. If the play calling and the o line are to blame then I see a common denominator.
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Scott and Whitcomb are the only 2 assistant coaches who have not been replaced and we are still seeing the same issues season after season. I think it's time for BW to make the hard decisions.
Fire Scott and let someone else call the plays
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(09-28-2019 10:41 PM)GotLabradors Wrote: (09-28-2019 09:22 PM)benny_t Wrote: (09-28-2019 09:21 PM)odufansam Wrote: What plays do you call when your offensive line can’t block. Asking for a friend. His name is Brian Scott.
He is the offensive line coach and o coordinator so you would think he'd have an idea lol. If the play calling and the o line are to blame then I see a common denominator.
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Scott and Whitcomb are the only 2 assistant coaches who have not been replaced and we are still seeing the same issues season after season. I think it's time for BW to make the hard decisions.
I think it’s time for Wood Selig to make the hard decision.
The reality of the situation is that our recovery time post-BW will be amplified the longer he remains at the helm. Each bad recruiting class puts us 4 more years from competitiveness. Also a losing program is as attractive to decent recruits as garlic is to a vampire. If this continues past this year, our reputation will become severely tarnished. Maybe permanently.
It's time
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(09-28-2019 10:07 PM)Justanodufan Wrote: (09-28-2019 08:31 PM)The Flagship Wrote: (09-28-2019 08:24 PM)LetsGoODU Wrote: He HAS to go. All of them need to go. We need a complete fresh start.
It's not happening. We can't afford the buy out unless you want to pay him off. That's the stone cold truth. BW will be with us through at least 2020.
His buyout (as of Dec 2nd or whatever the date he signed his extension) will be extremely manageable.
I suspect if things continue, Wood will start talking with ODAF and other big donors about obtaining the cash to get rid of him.
The key is waiting until there is only one year (to the day) left on his contract, because the buyout drops significantly
Our FB and MBB coaches are very poorly paid because of the tight money in our budget. Money is the reason our basketball schedule is weak OOC... we can only afford H/H series against the CAA and A10 and the A10 teams on our schedule are in decline. While a buyout may be relatively manageable, it will still mean less money for the new coaches. Donors are limited and have been asked a lot already. Not sure Id tap those resources without a plan in place... ie replacement coach that is a clear upgrade teed up and a clear and credible vision ahead. Otherwise, we arw going to wind up with the special teams coach from Phoebus High School because a coach with both experience and any level of success at the FBS level is going to cost at least double what Bobby makes.
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Wilder is an amazing statesman and politician. He is exactly what you need to start a program and build a winning culture. But time to pass the baton or he needs to bring in some offensive coaches like he did Blackwell. That's been a 180 in a single season.
(09-29-2019 07:30 AM)EverRespect Wrote: (09-28-2019 10:07 PM)Justanodufan Wrote: (09-28-2019 08:31 PM)The Flagship Wrote: (09-28-2019 08:24 PM)LetsGoODU Wrote: He HAS to go. All of them need to go. We need a complete fresh start.
It's not happening. We can't afford the buy out unless you want to pay him off. That's the stone cold truth. BW will be with us through at least 2020.
His buyout (as of Dec 2nd or whatever the date he signed his extension) will be extremely manageable.
I suspect if things continue, Wood will start talking with ODAF and other big donors about obtaining the cash to get rid of him.
The key is waiting until there is only one year (to the day) left on his contract, because the buyout drops significantly
Our FB and MBB coaches are very poorly paid because of the tight money in our budget. Money is the reason our basketball schedule is weak OOC... we can only afford H/H series against the CAA and A10 and the A10 teams on our schedule are in decline. While a buyout may be relatively manageable, it will still mean less money for the new coaches. Donors are limited and have been asked a lot already. Not sure Id tap those resources without a plan in place... ie replacement coach that is a clear upgrade teed up and a clear and credible vision ahead. Otherwise, we arw going to wind up with the special teams coach from Phoebus High School because a coach with both experience and any level of success at the FBS level is going to cost at least double what Bobby makes.
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It is seriously time to consider cutting some sports if money is so tight we are stuck with a poor coach, can’t afford any of the standard bells and whistles expected with a modern stadium etc.
(09-29-2019 08:34 AM)monarx Wrote: (09-29-2019 07:30 AM)EverRespect Wrote: (09-28-2019 10:07 PM)Justanodufan Wrote: (09-28-2019 08:31 PM)The Flagship Wrote: (09-28-2019 08:24 PM)LetsGoODU Wrote: He HAS to go. All of them need to go. We need a complete fresh start.
It's not happening. We can't afford the buy out unless you want to pay him off. That's the stone cold truth. BW will be with us through at least 2020.
His buyout (as of Dec 2nd or whatever the date he signed his extension) will be extremely manageable.
I suspect if things continue, Wood will start talking with ODAF and other big donors about obtaining the cash to get rid of him.
The key is waiting until there is only one year (to the day) left on his contract, because the buyout drops significantly
Our FB and MBB coaches are very poorly paid because of the tight money in our budget. Money is the reason our basketball schedule is weak OOC... we can only afford H/H series against the CAA and A10 and the A10 teams on our schedule are in decline. While a buyout may be relatively manageable, it will still mean less money for the new coaches. Donors are limited and have been asked a lot already. Not sure Id tap those resources without a plan in place... ie replacement coach that is a clear upgrade teed up and a clear and credible vision ahead. Otherwise, we arw going to wind up with the special teams coach from Phoebus High School because a coach with both experience and any level of success at the FBS level is going to cost at least double what Bobby makes.
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It is seriously time to consider cutting some sports if money is so tight we are stuck with a poor coach, can’t afford any of the standard bells and whistles expected with a modern stadium etc.
The athletic department needs to figure out how to keep ODU title IX compliant with the fewest amount of teams. ODU just does not have the budget, nor ODAF the willing donors, to support all the teams ODU currently has.
(11-02-2014 11:14 AM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote: No apology necessary. A school going FBS needs an FBS quality coaching staff. It's just that simple. Were we still FCS Bobby would still be a big success. I say he deserves a big testimonial dinner, a gold watch, a huge thank you for resurrecting football at ODU and a map designating the best routes out of Hampton Roads.
Just for fun I thought I would resurrect this old chestnut from November 2, 2014.
OK, so we can't afford to fire BW..... no problem; however, the OC absolutely must go. BW has no issues removing under performing Defensive coaches, now the same MUST happen with the Offensive coaching staff.
(09-29-2019 09:21 AM)DWING Wrote: OK, so we can't afford to fire BW..... no problem; however, the OC absolutely must go. BW has no issues removing under performing Defensive coaches, now the same MUST happen with the Offensive coaching staff.
BW will never fire Scott. That's his boy from his Maine days. BW will fall on the sword for Scott before he fires Scott. ODU won't have a new OC until they have a new head coach. OC and OL duties are too much for Scott.
(09-28-2019 09:24 PM)benny_t Wrote: (09-28-2019 09:22 PM)Old Blue Wrote: (09-28-2019 09:01 PM)LetsGoODU Wrote: (09-28-2019 08:56 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote: (09-28-2019 08:31 PM)The Flagship Wrote: It's not happening. We can't afford the buy out unless you want to pay him off. That's the stone cold truth. BW will be with us through at least 2020.
On some level, he's earned that. But 2020 has to be Bowl or Bust for BW and company.
That mentality of “next year this has to happen” has to stop. He can’t keep up at this level. Love what he did to get us started but the act is over. He can’t hang.
Love Bobby, but three losing seasons in a row? That's going to be hard to take.
Had to turn off the coaches show because I couldn't stand to listen to him talk about only needing 1 or 2 more plays.
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I don’t even attempt to listen to that nonsense anymore. He never seems to own up to any of his mistakes.
Some perspective from this old fart.
We came into this season with lowered expectations. We lost key players on both offense and defense and gathered up some JUCOs to fill in the holes. The QB position was a wide open competition with the eventual number one still not known going into the NSU game.
We have played four games.
1. NSU: This was a game we were supposed to win against a not-so-highly rated FCS team. We started strong, found a way to make it a game, and then had to come from behind to pull out the win. But we did get the "W" while the defense showed some real potential, and the coaches concluded that we had our starting QB in Stone Smartt. At 1-0 we were on schedule.
2. VA Tech: This was a game we were picked to lose by something like 28 points if I recall correctly. The defense continued to improve. In the fourth quarter we trailed by 7, and eventually lost by 14. By any measure, the Monarchs beat the point spread and exceeded expectations, while losing a game they were "supposed" to lose. At 1-1, we remained on schedule.
3. UVA: Once again, we went into a game as roughly four touchdown underdogs, and then we took an early 17-point lead. The fact remains that the Monarchs once again exceeded expectations while losing by 11 to a ranked team. The defense was nothing short of awesome, but the loss was disheartening because the eventual loss came despite the early lead. At 1-2 we remained on schedule.
4. ECU: This was a game with generally higher expectations. I personally believed we would win this game, somewhat handily. But, by all indications this was expected to be a close game with home field advantage and the three-point Vegas point spred going to the Monarchs. However, Davis, Hershow and Kuma were all missing from our offense due to injuries, of which most of us were blissfully unaware. Final result, we lose by three, with ECU getting two of its TDs scoring on a blocked punt and a futilely contested long pass. At 1-3 we are pretty much on schedule, or alternatively, just off schedule.
Why do I go through all this? It seems some of you have already declared this a losing season and are clammoring for BW's scalp. Frankly, it is more than just a little premature to be going through all these hysterics. We are right where many (if not most) expected us to be at this point. Now, the truth is, there are enough winnable games still on the schedule for this team to finish with six or seven wins and a bowl game. Let's give this a chance to play out. I think a good outcome to this season still lies ahead, and it's way too early to be abandoning a ship that is not sinking.
(09-29-2019 11:19 AM)ODU AGGIE Wrote: Some perspective from this old fart.
We came into this season with lowered expectations. We lost key players on both offense and defense and gathered up some JUCOs to fill in the holes. The QB position was a wide open competition with the eventual number one still not known going into the NSU game.
We have played four games.
1. NSU: This was a game we were supposed to win against a not-so-highly rated FCS team. We started strong, found a way to make it a game, and then had to come from behind to pull out the win. But we did get the "W" while the defense showed some real potential, and the coaches concluded that we had our starting QB in Stone Smartt. At 1-0 we were on schedule.
2. VA Tech: This was a game we were picked to lose by something like 28 points if I recall correctly. The defense continued to improve. In the fourth quarter we trailed by 7, and eventually lost by 14. By any measure, the Monarchs beat the point spread and exceeded expectations, while losing a game they were "supposed" to lose. At 1-1, we remained on schedule.
3. UVA: Once again, we went into a game as roughly four touchdown underdogs, and then we took an early 17-point lead. The fact remains that the Monarchs once again exceeded expectations while losing by 11 to a ranked team. The defense was nothing short of awesome, but the loss was disheartening because the eventual loss came despite the early lead. At 1-2 we remained on schedule.
4. ECU: This was a game with generally higher expectations. I personally believed we would win this game, somewhat handily. But, by all indications this was expected to be a close game with home field advantage and the three-point Vegas point spred going to the Monarchs. However, Davis, Hershow and Kuma were all missing from our offense due to injuries, of which most of us were blissfully unaware. Final result, we lose by three, with ECU getting two of its TDs scoring on a blocked punt and a futilely contested long pass. At 1-3 we are pretty much on schedule, or alternatively, just off schedule.
Why do I go through all this? It seems some of you have already declared this a losing season and are clammoring for BW's scalp. Frankly, it is more than just a little premature to be going through all these hysterics. We are right where many (if not most) expected us to be at this point. Now, the truth is, there are enough winnable games still on the schedule for this team to finish with six or seven wins and a bowl game. Let's give this a chance to play out. I think a good outcome to this season still lies ahead, and it's way too early to be abandoning a ship that is not sinking.
It may not be sinking yet, but it is definitely taking on water. If I can sit in the stands and predict offensive plays with pretty good accuracy, you know damn well the opposing defensive coordinator can do it, too. BW has got to get his head out of the sand and realize his buddy is in way over his head with OC and OL coaching duties. Blackwell has turned our defense around 180 degrees, but what does that matter if BW refuses to admit the offense is killing the team right now? Poor play calling and clock management blew both the VT and UVa games when ODU went in as the underdog. The same thing happened last night against ECU. The defense set the offense up several times with great field position, only for the offense to go 3 and out. BW and Scott need to stop trying to jam a square peg into a round hole and design an offense that uses the strengths of our current players.
(09-29-2019 11:19 AM)ODU AGGIE Wrote: Some perspective from this old fart.
We came into this season with lowered expectations. We lost key players on both offense and defense and gathered up some JUCOs to fill in the holes. The QB position was a wide open competition with the eventual number one still not known going into the NSU game.
We have played four games.
1. NSU: This was a game we were supposed to win against a not-so-highly rated FCS team. We started strong, found a way to make it a game, and then had to come from behind to pull out the win. But we did get the "W" while the defense showed some real potential, and the coaches concluded that we had our starting QB in Stone Smartt. At 1-0 we were on schedule.
2. VA Tech: This was a game we were picked to lose by something like 28 points if I recall correctly. The defense continued to improve. In the fourth quarter we trailed by 7, and eventually lost by 14. By any measure, the Monarchs beat the point spread and exceeded expectations, while losing a game they were "supposed" to lose. At 1-1, we remained on schedule.
3. UVA: Once again, we went into a game as roughly four touchdown underdogs, and then we took an early 17-point lead. The fact remains that the Monarchs once again exceeded expectations while losing by 11 to a ranked team. The defense was nothing short of awesome, but the loss was disheartening because the eventual loss came despite the early lead. At 1-2 we remained on schedule.
4. ECU: This was a game with generally higher expectations. I personally believed we would win this game, somewhat handily. But, by all indications this was expected to be a close game with home field advantage and the three-point Vegas point spred going to the Monarchs. However, Davis, Hershow and Kuma were all missing from our offense due to injuries, of which most of us were blissfully unaware. Final result, we lose by three, with ECU getting two of its TDs scoring on a blocked punt and a futilely contested long pass. At 1-3 we are pretty much on schedule, or alternatively, just off schedule.
Why do I go through all this? It seems some of you have already declared this a losing season and are clammoring for BW's scalp. Frankly, it is more than just a little premature to be going through all these hysterics. We are right where many (if not most) expected us to be at this point. Now, the truth is, there are enough winnable games still on the schedule for this team to finish with six or seven wins and a bowl game. Let's give this a chance to play out. I think a good outcome to this season still lies ahead, and it's way too early to be abandoning a ship that is not sinking.
I offer some counters.
1. NSU - who are now 1-4, with their lone win against a non D1 opponent. I can forgive this one since we have so many new faces. You have to think we could simply out-talent these guys, but they made it a game late.
2. VT - yes were we big underdogs, but VT is now 2-2. Their other wins came against FCS Furman, who gave them a better game than we did. It is entirely possible this could be a historically bad VT team.
3. UVA - we got the early lead and punched them in the mouth on national TV, and it got me very hyped. Then UVA made their adjustments and completely shut us down in the 2nd half, outscoring us 21-0.
4. ECU - yes we had key injuries, however this is once again probably a historically bad ECU team. Their other wins are against FCSes Gardnerwebb and W&M. ECU might not win another game until UConn in late November. We will see, but this should've been a game we win even with players hurt. Also, we started the game with ECU pinned back on their half yard line, which resulted in a long pass. How is this considered acceptable? Sure we had 3 players out on offense, but our defense still gave up big plays, and our punter taking 10 seconds to kick finally caught up to us.
We are 2-2 right now, and I don't think MOST predicted this. I think there are several who assumed we could beat ECU this year - yourself included?
I see 2 winnable games for us:
1. UTSA - this seems like a bad team and we get them home
2. CLT - always winnable
I see 2 non-winnable games for us:
1. Marshall - on the road against the division favorite
2. FAU - their OOC was brutal
I see 3 toss ups:
1. WKU - lost to FCS, but have turned it around and beat FIU and UAB
2. UAB - hey they lost to WKU at home, why can't we do the same
3. FIU - they don't seem as good as predicted
So at best I'm saying we could be 6-6, but a lot would have to go our way. I don't see 7 wins but that's splitting hairs.
I'm pretty comfortable with my original prediction of 3-9
Charlotte is no gimme. Guys need to start paying attention to them.
(09-29-2019 11:55 AM)odu09 Wrote: (09-29-2019 11:19 AM)ODU AGGIE Wrote: Some perspective from this old fart.
We came into this season with lowered expectations. We lost key players on both offense and defense and gathered up some JUCOs to fill in the holes. The QB position was a wide open competition with the eventual number one still not known going into the NSU game.
We have played four games.
1. NSU: This was a game we were supposed to win against a not-so-highly rated FCS team. We started strong, found a way to make it a game, and then had to come from behind to pull out the win. But we did get the "W" while the defense showed some real potential, and the coaches concluded that we had our starting QB in Stone Smartt. At 1-0 we were on schedule.
2. VA Tech: This was a game we were picked to lose by something like 28 points if I recall correctly. The defense continued to improve. In the fourth quarter we trailed by 7, and eventually lost by 14. By any measure, the Monarchs beat the point spread and exceeded expectations, while losing a game they were "supposed" to lose. At 1-1, we remained on schedule.
3. UVA: Once again, we went into a game as roughly four touchdown underdogs, and then we took an early 17-point lead. The fact remains that the Monarchs once again exceeded expectations while losing by 11 to a ranked team. The defense was nothing short of awesome, but the loss was disheartening because the eventual loss came despite the early lead. At 1-2 we remained on schedule.
4. ECU: This was a game with generally higher expectations. I personally believed we would win this game, somewhat handily. But, by all indications this was expected to be a close game with home field advantage and the three-point Vegas point spred going to the Monarchs. However, Davis, Hershow and Kuma were all missing from our offense due to injuries, of which most of us were blissfully unaware. Final result, we lose by three, with ECU getting two of its TDs scoring on a blocked punt and a futilely contested long pass. At 1-3 we are pretty much on schedule, or alternatively, just off schedule.
Why do I go through all this? It seems some of you have already declared this a losing season and are clammoring for BW's scalp. Frankly, it is more than just a little premature to be going through all these hysterics. We are right where many (if not most) expected us to be at this point. Now, the truth is, there are enough winnable games still on the schedule for this team to finish with six or seven wins and a bowl game. Let's give this a chance to play out. I think a good outcome to this season still lies ahead, and it's way too early to be abandoning a ship that is not sinking.
I offer some counters.
1. NSU - who are now 1-4, with their lone win against a non D1 opponent. I can forgive this one since we have so many new faces. You have to think we could simply out-talent these guys, but they made it a game late.
2. VT - yes were we big underdogs, but VT is now 2-2. Their other wins came against FCS Furman, who gave them a better game than we did. It is entirely possible this could be a historically bad VT team.
3. UVA - we got the early lead and punched them in the mouth on national TV, and it got me very hyped. Then UVA made their adjustments and completely shut us down in the 2nd half, outscoring us 21-0.
4. ECU - yes we had key injuries, however this is once again probably a historically bad ECU team. Their other wins are against FCSes Gardnerwebb and W&M. ECU might not win another game until UConn in late November. We will see, but this should've been a game we win even with players hurt. Also, we started the game with ECU pinned back on their half yard line, which resulted in a long pass. How is this considered acceptable? Sure we had 3 players out on offense, but our defense still gave up big plays, and our punter taking 10 seconds to kick finally caught up to us.
We are 2-2 right now, and I don't think MOST predicted this. I think there are several who assumed we could beat ECU this year - yourself included?
I see 2 winnable games for us:
1. UTSA - this seems like a bad team and we get them home
2. CLT - always winnable
I see 2 non-winnable games for us:
1. Marshall - on the road against the division favorite
2. FAU - their OOC was brutal
I see 3 toss ups:
1. WKU - lost to FCS, but have turned it around and beat FIU and UAB
2. UAB - hey they lost to WKU at home, why can't we do the same
3. FIU - they don't seem as good as predicted
So at best I'm saying we could be 6-6, but a lot would have to go our way. I don't see 7 wins but that's splitting hairs.
I'm pretty comfortable with my original prediction of 3-9
I personally see only two that we might be able to pull off. FIU and UTSA they are both pretty terrible. FAU, Marshall, UAB, WKU and CLT all seem appear better. How much and in what aspects we will see when we play them. I hope we right the ship but my hope is dwindling. While we started with jitters for a while it appeared we seem to be progressing well but after the second half vs UVA and yesterday's debacle if we end up winning 4 or less games this se
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Fire him. Fire him now
