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(10-17-2019 02:05 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-17-2019 01:36 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  You may be right but I can easily see the Dodgers taking that approach. And if they do it has to change the narrative from Strasburg vs Dodgers SP#2 to Strasburg (or whomever) vs Dodgers offense. But this ONLY works if they bring in somebody elite like Rendon AND the rest of the lineup can be much more productive and consistent. It's a tall order but if Bellinger can calm down and play a full season with the approach he took in the first half of 2019, adding Rendon could make that a ridiculous offense.

But if you have your #2 pitcher being like Kershaw this year and giving up 3 runs and 4 hits in 2 innings(with 4 LOB) I don't care how good your offense is- going up against a guy like a Strasburg is going to be tough.

Kershaw's not a #2; everybody including Andrew Friedman knows that. Urias has the stuff to be one but we'll have to see how he progresses. May could eventually be there; very difficult to imagine in 2020. Of course, this is why I'd like them to go after Cole.

Going up against 2019 Strasburg is tough regardless. How many #2s are there in baseball who match up with him? The point isn't that you have to find an elite #2 but that you have to improve enough to keep the game competitive for a longer period of time. I'm not saying anything revolutionary: Good at-bats, competent SP, quality RP to keep the game close enough that Strasburg (or whomever elite pitcher) doesn't get to bat for himself in 6th or 7th inning. Dodgers couldn't pull that off this year. With a better offense they would have had a better chance. With a better offense AND better SPs... well, that's gonna take some $$$$.
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Besides dealing with Strasburg and Rendon, Nats are going to have to figure out the bullpen yeah? Doolittle is looking ok at the moment but Strickland's not trustworthy and Hudson is a FA. Still a lot of question marks in there. Looks like a busy off season for the FO.
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(10-17-2019 03:10 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  Besides dealing with Strasburg and Rendon, Nats are going to have to figure out the bullpen yeah? Doolittle is looking ok at the moment but Strickland's not trustworthy and Hudson is a FA. Still a lot of question marks in there. Looks like a busy off season for the FO.

Rainey looks legit I'd say- told someone he looked like a Cardinal reliever out there. If they can get Hudson back- that'd be a pretty solid 3 guys. Rodney probably would retire you would think if we won it all (think I heard he's going to be the first guy ever to be in the World Series, LCS, LDS, and Wild Card for teams in both leagues). I think Austin Voth if he didn't make the rotation would make a great reliever(he's got a .174 average first 25 pitches of his games, with 15 k's in 52 pa's- and gave up 3 earned runs in 16 innings in first 2 innings this year as a starter- with 18 k's). Would say we need a good lefty, but who knows how effective those are going to be next season with the new rules.
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One of the things that strikes me reading this thread is how short windows are - yes a team like the Dodgers, Yankees, Red Sox will always have the payroll to usually do well, but that mix of good cheap talent and high priced vets is short before the players rightfully want to cash in for themselves.
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(10-17-2019 03:33 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  One of the things that strikes me reading this thread is how short windows are - yes a team like the Dodgers, Yankees, Red Sox will always have the payroll to usually do well, but that mix of good cheap talent and high priced vets is short before the players rightfully want to cash in for themselves.

I'd say even with the top teams you mentioned those windows can go in a hurry. Look at your Dodgers. How many guys are still around from the group even 3-4 years ago now? Only 6 batters I'm seeing from 2016 are still around- Seager, Turner, Pederson, Hernandez, Taylor, and Barnes. Only 8 pitchers- and two of those are Hill and Ryu who could easily be gone this offseason.

Yes they've been able to replace but still- it's not the same group as what started this run.
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You guys act like the Nats buried the Dodgers. If Roberts brings in Maeda instead of Kershaw, it's the Dodgers in the WS and the Nats playing golf. Let's not act like the Dodgers have so many needs. Let's also not act like the Nats will be going into 2020 with the same roster. Strasburg will be a FA, as will Rendon and Kendrick. Arguably 3 of their 5 most important players in the postseason.
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(10-17-2019 04:35 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-17-2019 03:33 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  One of the things that strikes me reading this thread is how short windows are - yes a team like the Dodgers, Yankees, Red Sox will always have the payroll to usually do well, but that mix of good cheap talent and high priced vets is short before the players rightfully want to cash in for themselves.

I'd say even with the top teams you mentioned those windows can go in a hurry. Look at your Dodgers. How many guys are still around from the group even 3-4 years ago now? Only 6 batters I'm seeing from 2016 are still around- Seager, Turner, Pederson, Hernandez, Taylor, and Barnes. Only 8 pitchers- and two of those are Hill and Ryu who could easily be gone this offseason.

Yes they've been able to replace but still- it's not the same group as what started this run.

Only 8 pitchers? That's a lot.
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(10-17-2019 02:56 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  
(10-17-2019 02:05 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-17-2019 01:36 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  You may be right but I can easily see the Dodgers taking that approach. And if they do it has to change the narrative from Strasburg vs Dodgers SP#2 to Strasburg (or whomever) vs Dodgers offense. But this ONLY works if they bring in somebody elite like Rendon AND the rest of the lineup can be much more productive and consistent. It's a tall order but if Bellinger can calm down and play a full season with the approach he took in the first half of 2019, adding Rendon could make that a ridiculous offense.

But if you have your #2 pitcher being like Kershaw this year and giving up 3 runs and 4 hits in 2 innings(with 4 LOB) I don't care how good your offense is- going up against a guy like a Strasburg is going to be tough.

Kershaw's not a #2; everybody including Andrew Friedman knows that. Urias has the stuff to be one but we'll have to see how he progresses. May could eventually be there; very difficult to imagine in 2020. Of course, this is why I'd like them to go after Cole.

Going up against 2019 Strasburg is tough regardless. How many #2s are there in baseball who match up with him? The point isn't that you have to find an elite #2 but that you have to improve enough to keep the game competitive for a longer period of time. I'm not saying anything revolutionary: Good at-bats, competent SP, quality RP to keep the game close enough that Strasburg (or whomever elite pitcher) doesn't get to bat for himself in 6th or 7th inning. Dodgers couldn't pull that off this year. With a better offense they would have had a better chance. With a better offense AND better SPs... well, that's gonna take some $$$$.

Another thing nobody's talking about: The dodgers don't need to necessarily figure all of this out in the offseason. They're going to win the division, so they can spend the season evaluating the roster and then make moves at the deadline.
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(10-18-2019 09:12 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  
(10-17-2019 04:35 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-17-2019 03:33 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  One of the things that strikes me reading this thread is how short windows are - yes a team like the Dodgers, Yankees, Red Sox will always have the payroll to usually do well, but that mix of good cheap talent and high priced vets is short before the players rightfully want to cash in for themselves.

I'd say even with the top teams you mentioned those windows can go in a hurry. Look at your Dodgers. How many guys are still around from the group even 3-4 years ago now? Only 6 batters I'm seeing from 2016 are still around- Seager, Turner, Pederson, Hernandez, Taylor, and Barnes. Only 8 pitchers- and two of those are Hill and Ryu who could easily be gone this offseason.

Yes they've been able to replace but still- it's not the same group as what started this run.

Only 8 pitchers? That's a lot.

some are limited guys. Very possible if not likely by start of next season the number from 2016 is down under 10.
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(10-18-2019 09:15 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  
(10-17-2019 02:56 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  
(10-17-2019 02:05 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-17-2019 01:36 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  You may be right but I can easily see the Dodgers taking that approach. And if they do it has to change the narrative from Strasburg vs Dodgers SP#2 to Strasburg (or whomever) vs Dodgers offense. But this ONLY works if they bring in somebody elite like Rendon AND the rest of the lineup can be much more productive and consistent. It's a tall order but if Bellinger can calm down and play a full season with the approach he took in the first half of 2019, adding Rendon could make that a ridiculous offense.

But if you have your #2 pitcher being like Kershaw this year and giving up 3 runs and 4 hits in 2 innings(with 4 LOB) I don't care how good your offense is- going up against a guy like a Strasburg is going to be tough.

Kershaw's not a #2; everybody including Andrew Friedman knows that. Urias has the stuff to be one but we'll have to see how he progresses. May could eventually be there; very difficult to imagine in 2020. Of course, this is why I'd like them to go after Cole.

Going up against 2019 Strasburg is tough regardless. How many #2s are there in baseball who match up with him? The point isn't that you have to find an elite #2 but that you have to improve enough to keep the game competitive for a longer period of time. I'm not saying anything revolutionary: Good at-bats, competent SP, quality RP to keep the game close enough that Strasburg (or whomever elite pitcher) doesn't get to bat for himself in 6th or 7th inning. Dodgers couldn't pull that off this year. With a better offense they would have had a better chance. With a better offense AND better SPs... well, that's gonna take some $$$$.

Another thing nobody's talking about: The dodgers don't need to necessarily figure all of this out in the offseason. They're going to win the division, so they can spend the season evaluating the roster and then make moves at the deadline.

I guess a question is what guys would be free agents after the 2020 season? Looking at new debuts in 2014- guys who would normally be free agents... top guy is deGrom- who resigned. Tanaka hasn't resigned but Yanks wouldn't deal him. Hendricks signed thru 2024. You'd be looking at like a Marcus Stroman or Robbie Ray realistically as the top options...

There's a lot better guys for pitching out there in the offseason compared to inseason from what it looks.
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(10-18-2019 09:11 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  You guys act like the Nats buried the Dodgers. If Roberts brings in Maeda instead of Kershaw, it's the Dodgers in the WS and the Nats playing golf. Let's not act like the Dodgers have so many needs. Let's also not act like the Nats will be going into 2020 with the same roster. Strasburg will be a FA, as will Rendon and Kendrick. Arguably 3 of their 5 most important players in the postseason.

It's no guarantee with the Maeda instead of Kershaw. Still would have had to get thru 2 more innings.... With 1 of those being Jansen...

And I would say a #2 starter is a pretty huge need for the Dodgers. Kershaw sure as hell isn't a #2 right now(and frankly might not even be a #3).

Nats will be interesting. I think they'll retain at least one of Strasburg or Rendon. But they've shown the willingness to spend money in free agency, something some teams don't do.
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(10-18-2019 10:00 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 09:11 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  You guys act like the Nats buried the Dodgers. If Roberts brings in Maeda instead of Kershaw, it's the Dodgers in the WS and the Nats playing golf. Let's not act like the Dodgers have so many needs. Let's also not act like the Nats will be going into 2020 with the same roster. Strasburg will be a FA, as will Rendon and Kendrick. Arguably 3 of their 5 most important players in the postseason.

It's no guarantee with the Maeda instead of Kershaw. Still would have had to get thru 2 more innings.... With 1 of those being Jansen...

And I would say a #2 starter is a pretty huge need for the Dodgers. Kershaw sure as hell isn't a #2 right now(and frankly might not even be a #3).

Nats will be interesting. I think they'll retain at least one of Strasburg or Rendon. But they've shown the willingness to spend money in free agency, something some teams don't do.

With how dominant he looked, I'd say the Dodgers would have been the likely victor if they had used Maeda instead of Kershaw.

And yes, the Nats have shown the willingness to spend money. Although I wonder how long they can continue to get away with their ridiculous strategy of deferring large sums of money.
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(10-18-2019 10:10 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 10:00 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 09:11 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  You guys act like the Nats buried the Dodgers. If Roberts brings in Maeda instead of Kershaw, it's the Dodgers in the WS and the Nats playing golf. Let's not act like the Dodgers have so many needs. Let's also not act like the Nats will be going into 2020 with the same roster. Strasburg will be a FA, as will Rendon and Kendrick. Arguably 3 of their 5 most important players in the postseason.

It's no guarantee with the Maeda instead of Kershaw. Still would have had to get thru 2 more innings.... With 1 of those being Jansen...

And I would say a #2 starter is a pretty huge need for the Dodgers. Kershaw sure as hell isn't a #2 right now(and frankly might not even be a #3).

Nats will be interesting. I think they'll retain at least one of Strasburg or Rendon. But they've shown the willingness to spend money in free agency, something some teams don't do.

With how dominant he looked, I'd say the Dodgers would have been the likely victor if they had used Maeda instead of Kershaw.

And yes, the Nats have shown the willingness to spend money. Although I wonder how long they can continue to get away with their ridiculous strategy of deferring large sums of money.

Maeda wouldn't have gone 2 innings. Meaning Jansen.... with all the pressure in the world.... no lock at all....

Nats have a lot of money coming their way soon from their TV deal. Been litigated a lot but that's close to being over... Plus a huge uptick in rights fees.
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(10-18-2019 10:20 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 10:10 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 10:00 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 09:11 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  You guys act like the Nats buried the Dodgers. If Roberts brings in Maeda instead of Kershaw, it's the Dodgers in the WS and the Nats playing golf. Let's not act like the Dodgers have so many needs. Let's also not act like the Nats will be going into 2020 with the same roster. Strasburg will be a FA, as will Rendon and Kendrick. Arguably 3 of their 5 most important players in the postseason.

It's no guarantee with the Maeda instead of Kershaw. Still would have had to get thru 2 more innings.... With 1 of those being Jansen...

And I would say a #2 starter is a pretty huge need for the Dodgers. Kershaw sure as hell isn't a #2 right now(and frankly might not even be a #3).

Nats will be interesting. I think they'll retain at least one of Strasburg or Rendon. But they've shown the willingness to spend money in free agency, something some teams don't do.

With how dominant he looked, I'd say the Dodgers would have been the likely victor if they had used Maeda instead of Kershaw.

And yes, the Nats have shown the willingness to spend money. Although I wonder how long they can continue to get away with their ridiculous strategy of deferring large sums of money.

Maeda wouldn't have gone 2 innings. Meaning Jansen.... with all the pressure in the world.... no lock at all....

Nats have a lot of money coming their way soon from their TV deal. Been litigated a lot but that's close to being over... Plus a huge uptick in rights fees.

Nothing is a lock. Crazy things happen, like home runs on back to back pitches.
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(10-18-2019 10:29 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 10:20 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 10:10 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 10:00 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 09:11 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  You guys act like the Nats buried the Dodgers. If Roberts brings in Maeda instead of Kershaw, it's the Dodgers in the WS and the Nats playing golf. Let's not act like the Dodgers have so many needs. Let's also not act like the Nats will be going into 2020 with the same roster. Strasburg will be a FA, as will Rendon and Kendrick. Arguably 3 of their 5 most important players in the postseason.

It's no guarantee with the Maeda instead of Kershaw. Still would have had to get thru 2 more innings.... With 1 of those being Jansen...

And I would say a #2 starter is a pretty huge need for the Dodgers. Kershaw sure as hell isn't a #2 right now(and frankly might not even be a #3).

Nats will be interesting. I think they'll retain at least one of Strasburg or Rendon. But they've shown the willingness to spend money in free agency, something some teams don't do.

With how dominant he looked, I'd say the Dodgers would have been the likely victor if they had used Maeda instead of Kershaw.

And yes, the Nats have shown the willingness to spend money. Although I wonder how long they can continue to get away with their ridiculous strategy of deferring large sums of money.

Maeda wouldn't have gone 2 innings. Meaning Jansen.... with all the pressure in the world.... no lock at all....

Nats have a lot of money coming their way soon from their TV deal. Been litigated a lot but that's close to being over... Plus a huge uptick in rights fees.

Nothing is a lock. Crazy things happen, like home runs on back to back pitches.

I just think it would have been really interesting with Jansen to close out the series... Which it would have been- Maeda would not have gone 2 innings there....
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(10-18-2019 10:44 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 10:29 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 10:20 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 10:10 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 10:00 AM)stever20 Wrote:  It's no guarantee with the Maeda instead of Kershaw. Still would have had to get thru 2 more innings.... With 1 of those being Jansen...

And I would say a #2 starter is a pretty huge need for the Dodgers. Kershaw sure as hell isn't a #2 right now(and frankly might not even be a #3).

Nats will be interesting. I think they'll retain at least one of Strasburg or Rendon. But they've shown the willingness to spend money in free agency, something some teams don't do.

With how dominant he looked, I'd say the Dodgers would have been the likely victor if they had used Maeda instead of Kershaw.

And yes, the Nats have shown the willingness to spend money. Although I wonder how long they can continue to get away with their ridiculous strategy of deferring large sums of money.

Maeda wouldn't have gone 2 innings. Meaning Jansen.... with all the pressure in the world.... no lock at all....

Nats have a lot of money coming their way soon from their TV deal. Been litigated a lot but that's close to being over... Plus a huge uptick in rights fees.

Nothing is a lock. Crazy things happen, like home runs on back to back pitches.

I just think it would have been really interesting with Jansen to close out the series... Which it would have been- Maeda would not have gone 2 innings there....

In the end all I'm saying is, you two are talking about the Dodgers as if they have a ton of work to do before they're able to compete with the Nats. But then y'all act like Roberts blew that game. basically saying that a better manager would've made the right decision, resulting in a loss for the Nats. So, if the Dodgers were one correct move away from winning the series, do they really need to do a lot in order to compete next year?
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(10-18-2019 09:15 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  
(10-17-2019 02:56 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  
(10-17-2019 02:05 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-17-2019 01:36 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  You may be right but I can easily see the Dodgers taking that approach. And if they do it has to change the narrative from Strasburg vs Dodgers SP#2 to Strasburg (or whomever) vs Dodgers offense. But this ONLY works if they bring in somebody elite like Rendon AND the rest of the lineup can be much more productive and consistent. It's a tall order but if Bellinger can calm down and play a full season with the approach he took in the first half of 2019, adding Rendon could make that a ridiculous offense.

But if you have your #2 pitcher being like Kershaw this year and giving up 3 runs and 4 hits in 2 innings(with 4 LOB) I don't care how good your offense is- going up against a guy like a Strasburg is going to be tough.

Kershaw's not a #2; everybody including Andrew Friedman knows that. Urias has the stuff to be one but we'll have to see how he progresses. May could eventually be there; very difficult to imagine in 2020. Of course, this is why I'd like them to go after Cole.

Going up against 2019 Strasburg is tough regardless. How many #2s are there in baseball who match up with him? The point isn't that you have to find an elite #2 but that you have to improve enough to keep the game competitive for a longer period of time. I'm not saying anything revolutionary: Good at-bats, competent SP, quality RP to keep the game close enough that Strasburg (or whomever elite pitcher) doesn't get to bat for himself in 6th or 7th inning. Dodgers couldn't pull that off this year. With a better offense they would have had a better chance. With a better offense AND better SPs... well, that's gonna take some $$$$.

Another thing nobody's talking about: The dodgers don't need to necessarily figure all of this out in the offseason. They're going to win the division, so they can spend the season evaluating the roster and then make moves at the deadline.

You mean like they did this year?
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(10-18-2019 09:50 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 09:12 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  
(10-17-2019 04:35 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-17-2019 03:33 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  One of the things that strikes me reading this thread is how short windows are - yes a team like the Dodgers, Yankees, Red Sox will always have the payroll to usually do well, but that mix of good cheap talent and high priced vets is short before the players rightfully want to cash in for themselves.

I'd say even with the top teams you mentioned those windows can go in a hurry. Look at your Dodgers. How many guys are still around from the group even 3-4 years ago now? Only 6 batters I'm seeing from 2016 are still around- Seager, Turner, Pederson, Hernandez, Taylor, and Barnes. Only 8 pitchers- and two of those are Hill and Ryu who could easily be gone this offseason.

Yes they've been able to replace but still- it's not the same group as what started this run.

Only 8 pitchers? That's a lot.

some are limited guys. Very possible if not likely by start of next season the number from 2016 is down under 10.

Who cares? The "window" isn't important because it contains the same players, it's important because a team is contending. This is a management/operations issue.
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(10-18-2019 12:40 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 10:44 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 10:29 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 10:20 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 10:10 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  With how dominant he looked, I'd say the Dodgers would have been the likely victor if they had used Maeda instead of Kershaw.

And yes, the Nats have shown the willingness to spend money. Although I wonder how long they can continue to get away with their ridiculous strategy of deferring large sums of money.

Maeda wouldn't have gone 2 innings. Meaning Jansen.... with all the pressure in the world.... no lock at all....

Nats have a lot of money coming their way soon from their TV deal. Been litigated a lot but that's close to being over... Plus a huge uptick in rights fees.

Nothing is a lock. Crazy things happen, like home runs on back to back pitches.

I just think it would have been really interesting with Jansen to close out the series... Which it would have been- Maeda would not have gone 2 innings there....

In the end all I'm saying is, you two are talking about the Dodgers as if they have a ton of work to do before they're able to compete with the Nats. But then y'all act like Roberts blew that game. basically saying that a better manager would've made the right decision, resulting in a loss for the Nats. So, if the Dodgers were one correct move away from winning the series, do they really need to do a lot in order to compete next year?

well just think. They lose Ryu most likely, and Kershaw ain't getting any younger. They can't win with a rotation of Buehler, Kershaw, and whatever else they currently have. And the bullpen did give up 2 games in the series. During the season 29 blown saves. Some of that got masked because they would blow the save top of the inning and then walk it off bottom of the inning. Had over 10 games where they blew a save but still won.
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RE: 2019-20 MLB Off Season/Hot Stove Thread
(10-18-2019 01:18 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 12:40 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 10:44 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 10:29 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 10:20 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Maeda wouldn't have gone 2 innings. Meaning Jansen.... with all the pressure in the world.... no lock at all....

Nats have a lot of money coming their way soon from their TV deal. Been litigated a lot but that's close to being over... Plus a huge uptick in rights fees.

Nothing is a lock. Crazy things happen, like home runs on back to back pitches.

I just think it would have been really interesting with Jansen to close out the series... Which it would have been- Maeda would not have gone 2 innings there....

In the end all I'm saying is, you two are talking about the Dodgers as if they have a ton of work to do before they're able to compete with the Nats. But then y'all act like Roberts blew that game. basically saying that a better manager would've made the right decision, resulting in a loss for the Nats. So, if the Dodgers were one correct move away from winning the series, do they really need to do a lot in order to compete next year?

well just think. They lose Ryu most likely, and Kershaw ain't getting any younger. They can't win with a rotation of Buehler, Kershaw, and whatever else they currently have. And the bullpen did give up 2 games in the series. During the season 29 blown saves. Some of that got masked because they would blow the save top of the inning and then walk it off bottom of the inning. Had over 10 games where they blew a save but still won.

Yes, they need to make some additions, and in Ryu's case a replacement. But again, this isn't some dire situation where they're screwed if they tread lightly in Free Agency, and decide to make a bigger splash at the deadline, as they did in the past with Machado and Darvish.
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