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Coaches Luncheons 2019
Dear Friends,
A new year for the luncheons started off with about thirty-five in attendance.
Brody Hoying was the guest player. He gave a very nice speech about his time at Eastern starting in 2014. Saying how important it is to make the traveling squad for participation against big time teams. He didn't make the trip to Louisiana State that year, but knew if he worked hard in the future ,he could be on the travel squad. Coach Creighton said similarly that just remember there will always be thirty-five players left at home for every away game. They work just as hard, spend the same amount of time at practices, and want to be there, but will show up on Sunday ready to go. These are the kind of dedicated players that make-up Eastern's team.
To further show dedication, Coach Creighton told of how Mike Glass got to Eastern. He was not eligible when originally offered. So, Mike came to Eastern, paid his own way to get eligible, even though he could not attend practices, meetings, or do anything with the football team. After that year Mike was eligible, and ready to go.
Coach Creighton and Brody both agreed on the importance of the new athletic facility. With everything now centered in one area, it makes for greater efficiency of meetings and practices, and gives a finish to Rynearson Stadium.
Lastly, Coach Creighton emphasized the fact that after the last two previous victories over a Big Ten team, Eastern went 0-10. He does not want that to happen again.
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09-18-2019 01:22 PM
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Great stuff, thanks Ken. Didn’t know that about Glass. Very impressive.
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Where was the luncheon at?
09-18-2019 01:36 PM
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Dear fanfrompowellspub,
They are held at Bigalora's Pizzeria on Washtenaw Avenue in Ann Arbor. Nice place.
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(09-18-2019 01:30 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  Great stuff, thanks Ken. Didn’t know that about Glass. Very impressive.

Yep. The BTN telecast mentioned Glass. Was ineligible because of one class and had to sit out that first year at EMU.
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I met Glass grandparents in Champaign before the game, they made the trip from St. Louis. Nice people. I saw his grandmother after the game and told her she must be the good luck charm and asked her to attend more games!
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Thanks Ken
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Thanks Ken, interesting to hear the scoop on Glass. All the parents I met (and hugged after the final kick) were so nice and friendly to talk to. They all raved about CC as a man and as a coach.
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Thanks Ken!
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Dear Friends,
The second Coaches Luncheon had about twenty-five people in attendance. Down a bit from the previous luncheon. The guest player was Quian Williams, from Oklahoma, where Coach Creighton said they are beginning to develop a recruiting base. Williams, went on to say that he loves Eastern and all the coaches. What else would we expect him to say? Nice young man and a quality player.
Coach Creighton made no excuses for how Eastern played. He continued with the statement that Eastern was outplayed, but did not think it should affect the teams attitude for the upcoming Ball State game.
I asked why no trick play after Eastern fell behind 21-3 to maybe give us a spark (if it worked), and maybe take some of the steam out of Central. I gave some suggestions from past seasons, the double pass, a reverse, screen pass. His reply was; draw a few for me that we can take into consideration. He then added that our trick play was to block the kick when they were kicking from their end zone. Unfortunately, we did not block the kick, and got a roughing the kicker call against us. Maybe it was just me, but with my question and his response, he seemed defensive.
Coach Creighton also would not make any statements about injured players, which has been his response in the past.
Any questions?
10-09-2019 02:26 PM
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(10-09-2019 02:26 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Friends,
The second Coaches Luncheon had about twenty-five people in attendance. Down a bit from the previous luncheon. The guest player was Quian Williams, from Oklahoma, where Coach Creighton said they are beginning to develop a recruiting base. Williams, went on to say that he loves Eastern and all the coaches. What else would we expect him to say? Nice young man and a quality player.
Coach Creighton made no excuses for how Eastern played. He continued with the statement that Eastern was outplayed, but did not think it should affect the teams attitude for the upcoming Ball State game.
I asked why no trick play after Eastern fell behind 21-3 to maybe give us a spark (if it worked), and maybe take some of the steam out of Central. I gave some suggestions from past seasons, the double pass, a reverse, screen pass. His reply was; draw a few for me that we can take into consideration. He then added that our trick play was to block the kick when they were kicking from their end zone. Unfortunately, we did not block the kick, and got a roughing the kicker call against us. Maybe it was just me, but with my question and his response, he seemed defensive.
Coach Creighton also would not make any statements about injured players, which has been his response in the past.
Any questions?

Thanks Ken. Coach is feeling the heat.
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(10-09-2019 02:26 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  I asked why no trick play after Eastern fell behind 21-3 to maybe give us a spark (if it worked), and maybe take some of the steam out of Central. I gave some suggestions from past seasons, the double pass, a reverse, screen pass. His reply was; draw a few for me that we can take into consideration. He then added that our trick play was to block the kick when they were kicking from their end zone. Unfortunately, we did not block the kick, and got a roughing the kicker call against us. Maybe it was just me, but with my question and his response, he seemed defensive.

Ken...I was at the luncheon and here's what I took away from his response to your question. While he did not answer your question directly, I think the point he was trying to make was that things like trick plays involve a deal of risk. If you pull it off, you're a hero. If it fails, you're a schmuck and people ask why you took the risk.

I think he was using the attempt to block the punt as an example to gauge your acceptance of risky plays. Should they have gone after the ball in an attempt to block the punt, or play it conservative and catch the ball at the 40 or 50? When you responded that you'd go after the ball for the block even though it resulted in a penalty, CC commented that as a fan you would be willing to accept the risk of a trick play.

Again, he didn't directly answer your question, but I felt he was saying it was his feeling the risk wasn't worth it the way the gameplay was going. As he had said earlier, the team was not playing at its best. If they aren't effectively implementing the basic game plan, would they have been able to pull off a trick play (my question, not a CC comment)?
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(10-09-2019 03:10 PM)cidbearit Wrote:  
(10-09-2019 02:26 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  I asked why no trick play after Eastern fell behind 21-3 to maybe give us a spark (if it worked), and maybe take some of the steam out of Central. I gave some suggestions from past seasons, the double pass, a reverse, screen pass. His reply was; draw a few for me that we can take into consideration. He then added that our trick play was to block the kick when they were kicking from their end zone. Unfortunately, we did not block the kick, and got a roughing the kicker call against us. Maybe it was just me, but with my question and his response, he seemed defensive.

Ken...I was at the luncheon and here's what I took away from his response to your question. While he did not answer your question directly, I think the point he was trying to make was that things like trick plays involve a deal of risk. If you pull it off, you're a hero. If it fails, you're a schmuck and people ask why you took the risk.

I think he was using the attempt to block the punt as an example to gauge your acceptance of risky plays. Should they have gone after the ball in an attempt to block the punt, or play it conservative and catch the ball at the 40 or 50? When you responded that you'd go after the ball for the block even though it resulted in a penalty, CC commented that as a fan you would be willing to accept the risk of a trick play.

Again, he didn't directly answer your question, but I felt he was saying it was his feeling the risk wasn't worth it the way the gameplay was going. As he had said earlier, the team was not playing at its best. If they aren't effectively implementing the basic game plan, would they have been able to pull off a trick play (my question, not a CC comment)?

He could have also been asking you to draw it up because he may be looking for another offensive coordinator soon.
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(10-09-2019 07:54 PM)EMU_HRM07 Wrote:  
(10-09-2019 03:10 PM)cidbearit Wrote:  
(10-09-2019 02:26 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  I asked why no trick play after Eastern fell behind 21-3 to maybe give us a spark (if it worked), and maybe take some of the steam out of Central. I gave some suggestions from past seasons, the double pass, a reverse, screen pass. His reply was; draw a few for me that we can take into consideration. He then added that our trick play was to block the kick when they were kicking from their end zone. Unfortunately, we did not block the kick, and got a roughing the kicker call against us. Maybe it was just me, but with my question and his response, he seemed defensive.

Ken...I was at the luncheon and here's what I took away from his response to your question. While he did not answer your question directly, I think the point he was trying to make was that things like trick plays involve a deal of risk. If you pull it off, you're a hero. If it fails, you're a schmuck and people ask why you took the risk.

I think he was using the attempt to block the punt as an example to gauge your acceptance of risky plays. Should they have gone after the ball in an attempt to block the punt, or play it conservative and catch the ball at the 40 or 50? When you responded that you'd go after the ball for the block even though it resulted in a penalty, CC commented that as a fan you would be willing to accept the risk of a trick play.

Again, he didn't directly answer your question, but I felt he was saying it was his feeling the risk wasn't worth it the way the gameplay was going. As he had said earlier, the team was not playing at its best. If they aren't effectively implementing the basic game plan, would they have been able to pull off a trick play (my question, not a CC comment)?

He could have also been asking you to draw it up because he may be looking for another offensive coordinator soon.

I'd guess that is in the works for the offseason. Can't continue the status quo with this offense, and it's glaring lack of a run game.

28 carries for 63 yds, with a long of 23 yds. So 27 carries for 40 yards......1.5 average! Offensive line also gave up 5 sacks and 10 TFL's!!!! Yes, 5 sacks and 10 TFL's!!!!

Do the numbers lie? Looks like changes need to be made up front. There are plenty of young hungry guys that couldn't do any worse than this.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/bo...=401119273
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(10-09-2019 08:02 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  
(10-09-2019 07:54 PM)EMU_HRM07 Wrote:  
(10-09-2019 03:10 PM)cidbearit Wrote:  
(10-09-2019 02:26 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  I asked why no trick play after Eastern fell behind 21-3 to maybe give us a spark (if it worked), and maybe take some of the steam out of Central. I gave some suggestions from past seasons, the double pass, a reverse, screen pass. His reply was; draw a few for me that we can take into consideration. He then added that our trick play was to block the kick when they were kicking from their end zone. Unfortunately, we did not block the kick, and got a roughing the kicker call against us. Maybe it was just me, but with my question and his response, he seemed defensive.
Eagle Tough, I've been saying that for 5 weeks!!!!!!! Mackey please!!!!!
Ken...I was at the luncheon and here's what I took away from his response to your question. While he did not answer your question directly, I think the point he was trying to make was that things like trick plays involve a deal of risk. If you pull it off, you're a hero. If it fails, you're a schmuck and people ask why you took the risk.

I think he was using the attempt to block the punt as an example to gauge your acceptance of risky plays. Should they have gone after the ball in an attempt to block the punt, or play it conservative and catch the ball at the 40 or 50? When you responded that you'd go after the ball for the block even though it resulted in a penalty, CC commented that as a fan you would be willing to accept the risk of a trick play.

Again, he didn't directly answer your question, but I felt he was saying it was his feeling the risk wasn't worth it the way the gameplay was going. As he had said earlier, the team was not playing at its best. If they aren't effectively implementing the basic game plan, would they have been able to pull off a trick play (my question, not a CC comment)?

He could have also been asking you to draw it up because he may be looking for another offensive coordinator soon.

I'd guess that is in the works for the offseason. Can't continue the status quo with this offense, and it's glaring lack of a run game.

28 carries for 63 yds, with a long of 23 yds. So 27 carries for 40 yards......1.5 average! Offensive line also gave up 5 sacks and 10 TFL's!!!! Yes, 5 sacks and 10 TFL's!!!!

Do the numbers lie? Looks like changes need to be made up front. There are plenty of young hungry guys that couldn't do any worse than this.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/bo...=401119273
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Eagle tough, I've been saying that for 5 weeks!!!!!!! Mackey please 10 carries!!!!!!! Glass 10 Carries!!!!!! Parker 7 to 10 Carries!!!!!! Grissom 5 Carries!!!!! Maybe have a few of the freshman get some snaps!!!!!! This game is the season with W Mich and Toledo the next 2 games!!!!! Our Defense will really need some fine tuning for both of them!!!!!!
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Theres only so many times you can you can say we got outcoached and outplayed before people ask what are you doing about it?
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(10-09-2019 10:25 PM)EMUGLORYDAYSthe90s Wrote:  Eagle tough, I've been saying that for 5 weeks!!!!!!! Mackey please 10 carries!!!!!!! Glass 10 Carries!!!!!! Parker 7 to 10 Carries!!!!!! Grissom 5 Carries!!!!! Maybe have a few of the freshman get some snaps!!!!!! This game is the season with W Mich and Toledo the next 2 games!!!!! Our Defense will really need some fine tuning for both of them!!!!!!

I'm not sure that you and EagleTough are saying the same thing!!

He was highlighting the problems with the OL. The OL needs to play a lot better for the sake of Glass and the running game.
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I think that was a decent response to your question TBH.
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(10-09-2019 08:02 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  28 carries for 63 yds, with a long of 23 yds. So 27 carries for 40 yards......1.5 average! Offensive line also gave up 5 sacks and 10 TFL's!!!! Yes, 5 sacks and 10 TFL's!!!!

Do the numbers lie? Looks like changes need to be made up front. There are plenty of young hungry guys that couldn't do any worse than this.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/bo...=401119273

CC did reiterate that their objective on Offense is to use the passing game to set up the running game. He commented that in two of the games (Kentucky, and I don't recall the other), they intentionally stayed away from running the ball because they felt that was the best way to deal with the opponent's defensive schemes. His point being that the per game running stats are low, but in part that was by design.

That being said, it doesn't address the O-Line stats you cited. If the Eagles are indeed going to make passing their primary objective, the O-Line does need to step it up. You can't establish a passing game to set up your run game if your QB is under pressure, or worse, on his back. And when you turn to the run, you have to give your RB's the chance to make a move toward their gaps and make backfield reads before worrying about evading defensive pressure.
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