(09-18-2019 11:08 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  I'm all for it. When I was running a trucking company CA set emissions so strict that any pre-2011 truck wouldn't pass and the state would not issue permits if needed. If the load didn't require permits it was a run at your own risk type deal of getting caught. I hated sending trucks to CA anyways, but the money was good and southern CA deliveries were pretty easy.

California is tougher on cars than on illegal aliens.

(09-18-2019 06:11 AM)fsquid Wrote:  So much for state rights.

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No one state has the right to make things worse for the other 49 (or 56 if you are a liberal)

(09-18-2019 12:31 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  California had the exemptions because Reagan passed into laws these stricter emissions. Have you ever seen the smog? It blocks out the sunlight. The air is getting cleaner thanks to the California laws. The reason California is stricter because there are more people than other states. When there are more people? There are more cars and factories. The businesses including car makers and all that are working with the state to help turn the state around. The car companies and all that helped by investing into make cars, buildings and all that better.

They say the smog's the REASON they have such beautiful sunsets

(09-18-2019 01:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-18-2019 06:11 AM)fsquid Wrote:  So much for state rights.

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No one state has the right to make things worse for the other 49 (or 56 if you are a liberal)

Cuck Falifornia!

(09-18-2019 08:57 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-18-2019 01:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-18-2019 06:11 AM)fsquid Wrote:  So much for state rights.

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No one state has the right to make things worse for the other 49 (or 56 if you are a liberal)

Cuck Falifornia!

w/o question in their current state of 'confucius-isms'...I can only.....

to ^^^^^^^^^

(09-18-2019 02:50 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(09-18-2019 12:31 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  California had the exemptions because Reagan passed into laws these stricter emissions. Have you ever seen the smog? It blocks out the sunlight. The air is getting cleaner thanks to the California laws. The reason California is stricter because there are more people than other states. When there are more people? There are more cars and factories. The businesses including car makers and all that are working with the state to help turn the state around. The car companies and all that helped by investing into make cars, buildings and all that better.

They say the smog's the REASON they have such beautiful sunsets

right, eh....the equinox and the big sur have zero involvement in that
'emolument'...

(09-18-2019 01:14 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(09-18-2019 11:08 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  I'm all for it. When I was running a trucking company CA set emissions so strict that any pre-2011 truck wouldn't pass and the state would not issue permits if needed. If the load didn't require permits it was a run at your own risk type deal of getting caught. I hated sending trucks to CA anyways, but the money was good and southern CA deliveries were pretty easy.

California is tougher on cars than on illegal aliens.

Yes. Imagine how much money CA would have to help reduce emissions if they didn't have massive welfare programs for illegals, put their kids through public school, provided healthcare for them, and house thousands in prisons.

Let's be real, here...the automakers are not going to make cars that can be sold everywhere but California. California would basically be setting the standards for the entire country, and California's mucky mucks know this. We might as well not have federal agencies if states like California are picking them for everyone else.

(09-19-2019 08:58 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Let's be real, here...the automakers are not going to make cars that can be sold everywhere but California. California would basically be setting the standards for the entire country, and California's mucky mucks know this. We might as well not have federal agencies if states like California are picking them for everyone else.

Not would be, but were already

I'm unaware of any new car designed for the US market that couldn't be sold in Cali. Some commercial trucks or farm equipment perhaps. I know some generators couldn't be.

(09-19-2019 09:08 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  Not would be, but were already

Yup, like the goofy gas cans that you need 3 hands to use.

(09-19-2019 09:09 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 09:08 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  Not would be, but were already

Yup, like the goofy gas cans that you need 3 hands to use.

And spill more gas than the old ones.

(09-18-2019 01:14 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(09-18-2019 11:08 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  I'm all for it. When I was running a trucking company CA set emissions so strict that any pre-2011 truck wouldn't pass and the state would not issue permits if needed. If the load didn't require permits it was a run at your own risk type deal of getting caught. I hated sending trucks to CA anyways, but the money was good and southern CA deliveries were pretty easy.

California is tougher on cars than on illegal aliens.

You don't know the half of it.

You can't pass CA emissions testing with the "check engine light" on. So if you've got a car that always has the check engine light on, you're out of luck. That car can't pass e-check and you can't drive it.

My check engine light ALWAYS went on whenever I'd drive north out of LA. It goes up to 4000 feet elevation & back almost to sea level within 10 miles. The high RPMs & quick change to thinner air are brutal on my little Kia. To get the light off, the car's computer has to reset, which means (for most cars) turning the car off & driving at highway speeds for 3 miles - good luck finding 3 miles of open highway if you live in greater LA.

Try googling it - there's tons of internet forums of CA residents frantically trying to figure out how to get their check engine light off.

(09-19-2019 11:53 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 09:09 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 09:08 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  Not would be, but were already

Yup, like the goofy gas cans that you need 3 hands to use.

And spill more gas than the old ones.

Yeah, those tick me off. You can buy a conversion kit to make them normal, but it's $8 extra & the very fact that I have to do that to make it work is infuriating.

(09-19-2019 12:17 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 11:53 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 09:09 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 09:08 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  Not would be, but were already

Yup, like the goofy gas cans that you need 3 hands to use.

And spill more gas than the old ones.

Yeah, those tick me off. You can buy a conversion kit to make them normal, but it's $8 extra & the very fact that I have to do that to make it work is infuriating.

#reengineer is my middle name...

fk a catalytic converter...my 350 v8 purrs and stomps when req'd...

I literally watched 'another' dipshite drunk/stoned feller toting water almost flip today...

I have to purchase an in-cam thingys soon...it's amazing the stoooopid shite I witness daily...

I took a pic earlier out at the richie-rich land...

I'll post that later in the grind gears thread...

#livinglovingtheField

I really have too much fonzies...