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RE: UConn independent scheduling in the future
More independents should make scheduling a bit easier. Another avenue for home games may be the Liberty route. I read recently where the Flames are paying @ $800,000 to get ODU to come in and play. I know that paying teams doesn't help the budget, but it may entice some G5 schools not ordinarily interested in a H&H.
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(09-17-2019 10:46 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  More independents should make scheduling a bit easier.

Right, and if just a couple more teams become FBS indys, then the indys would have no worries about finding enough late season games.
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Are there any announcements yet about UConn's 2020 schedule?
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RE: UConn independent scheduling in the future
(09-17-2019 10:54 AM)Wedge Wrote:  
(09-17-2019 10:46 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  More independents should make scheduling a bit easier.

Right, and if just a couple more teams become FBS indys, then the indys would have no worries about finding enough late season games.

With more independent mouths to feed each share of the CFP money becomes less. 07-coffee3
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RE: UConn independent scheduling in the future
(09-17-2019 10:46 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  More independents should make scheduling a bit easier. Another avenue for home games may be the Liberty route. I read recently where the Flames are paying @ $800,000 to get ODU to come in and play. I know that paying teams doesn't help the budget, but it may entice some G5 schools not ordinarily interested in a H&H.

Difference is that Liberty has more money than it knows what to do with it while UConn's athletic department is hemorrhaging money.
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(09-17-2019 12:50 PM)panite Wrote:  
(09-17-2019 10:54 AM)Wedge Wrote:  
(09-17-2019 10:46 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  More independents should make scheduling a bit easier.

Right, and if just a couple more teams become FBS indys, then the indys would have no worries about finding enough late season games.

With more independent mouths to feed each share of the CFP money becomes less. 07-coffee3

That's why there will not be a mass migration to Indy status that some seem to crave. UConn was a unique situation. Most of the other schools are not going to pass up the CFP money, bowl tie-ins and greater opportunity to access bowl as "highest rated G5 school".
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(09-17-2019 11:57 AM)megadrone Wrote:  Are there any announcements yet about UConn's 2020 schedule?

Rumor is they're going to sim the 2020 season and go straight to recruiting for 2021.
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UConn is running out of time to cobble together a 2020 schedule.
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(09-17-2019 01:05 PM)whittx Wrote:  
(09-17-2019 10:46 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  More independents should make scheduling a bit easier. Another avenue for home games may be the Liberty route. I read recently where the Flames are paying @ $800,000 to get ODU to come in and play. I know that paying teams doesn't help the budget, but it may entice some G5 schools not ordinarily interested in a H&H.

Difference is that Liberty has more money than it knows what to do with it while UConn's athletic department is hemorrhaging money.

All that Liberty money comes from institutional transfers, not revenue, same as everyone else.
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RE: UConn independent scheduling in the future
(09-17-2019 04:15 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  It appears the model UC is shooting for is 2 P5s, a G5 and FCS (some years 2 G5’s). Obviously Miami is locked in as one of the G5’s through 2029.

... People would lose their mind if UC only scheduled one P5 and had Miami, UConn and an FCS as the other OOC game.

And note the model of the MiamiU contract ... Home / Away / Home / "Neutral" site in Cincinnati, repeat. So pro-forma kind of 2.5/1.5, but 3/1 by location.

Even getting the matching scheduling from UC would leave UConn with less than a true Home/Away with UC, and given the difference in location and series history, there's no particular reason why UConn would be able to expect to get the same deal that MiamiU got.

So if a Magic 8 Ball generates a positive answer to the "UC/UConn straight Home and Home series?" question, it mostly just casts doubt on how Magic that particular 8 Ball happens to be.
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(09-17-2019 05:49 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(09-16-2019 09:55 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  If I'm a Big Ten team, I'd be hesitant to sign a home-and-home with a team that might very well be FCS by the time the game rolls around.

Can’t they just put in language that voids the contract if that happens

Sure, but then they have to reschedule. It's a concern, and you'd rather schedule someone without that downgrade risk. Just schedule any other FBS program instead, and you don't have that headache.
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They could just keep it as an FCS game and revert any road trip to a home game if that happened.

The Big Ten seems to have reneged on their whole "no FCS thing" so I don't see that being a big deal. And UF was able to get the Idaho game last year counted as an FBS game for bowl purposes (ended up being a moot point anyway) because they were FBS when it was scheduled.
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(09-18-2019 05:34 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(09-17-2019 04:15 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  It appears the model UC is shooting for is 2 P5s, a G5 and FCS (some years 2 G5’s). Obviously Miami is locked in as one of the G5’s through 2029.

... People would lose their mind if UC only scheduled one P5 and had Miami, UConn and an FCS as the other OOC game.

And note the model of the MiamiU contract ... Home / Away / Home / "Neutral" site in Cincinnati, repeat. So pro-forma kind of 2.5/1.5, but 3/1 by location.

Even getting the matching scheduling from UC would leave UConn with less than a true Home/Away with UC, and given the difference in location and series history, there's no particular reason why UConn would be able to expect to get the same deal that MiamiU got.

So if a Magic 8 Ball generates a positive answer to the "UC/UConn straight Home and Home series?" question, it mostly just casts doubt on how Magic that particular 8 Ball happens to be.

Yep.

And to pull a plug for a fellow alumnus, the Magic 8 Ball was invented by Cincinnati alum Abe Bookman.

https://magazine.uc.edu/famousalumni/des...agic8.html
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(09-18-2019 08:03 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(09-17-2019 05:49 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(09-16-2019 09:55 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  If I'm a Big Ten team, I'd be hesitant to sign a home-and-home with a team that might very well be FCS by the time the game rolls around.

Can’t they just put in language that voids the contract if that happens

Sure, but then they have to reschedule. It's a concern, and you'd rather schedule someone without that downgrade risk. Just schedule any other FBS program instead, and you don't have that headache.

They could just keep it as an FCS game and revert any road trip to a home game if that happened.

The Big Ten seems to have reneged on their whole "no FCS thing" so I don't see that being a big deal. And UF was able to get the Idaho game last year counted as an FBS game for bowl purposes (ended up being a moot point anyway) because they were FBS when it was scheduled.
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Or you could, not. If Florida thought that Idaho might not be FBS, they wouldn't have scheduled the game. (Set aside that it was a make-good from a 2014 game)
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I doubt UConn can sign any P5 teams for a home-and-home series. It'll be hard enough to get 2/1 agreements. As far as future home-and-home series, UConn will be limited to G5 programs.

There may be some programs that will agree to a series based on the promise of some basketball games, but no ACC program needs this. I doubt any B1G team does, either.

Things may change if UConn establishes itself as a serious independent, but until then, it's going to be 2/1 (at best) with a few P5's—but more likely one-off body-bag games in P5 stadiums. Otherwise it's other independents, G5's, and FCS teams.
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(09-17-2019 01:31 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  UConn is running out of time to cobble together a 2020 schedule.

They will probably announce it all at once. Make it a big media announcement. My guess it will be an acceptable heavy G5 schedule. My prediction.

There are a limited amount of schools that still have an opening that would play an away game at UConn. Most leftover openings at this point are held for a home game against an FCS school. The only schools that I found that have an opening and would play an away game are: ODU, Nevada and UNLV.
Nevada, UNLV, NMSU and Boise State are still allowed to schedule a 13th game since they play at Hawaii. Therefore:

Wk 0:..... @ Boise State..... (playing UConn is better than FCS)
Wk 1:..... UMass ........ (since playing week 0, move the game from Thursday back to Friday or Sat)
9/12:..... @Illinois
9/19:..... ODU............ (works for ODU, move Maine back 4 weeks)
9/26:..... Indiana
10/03:... Bye
10/10:... @UAB ............
10/17:... Maine.............. (instead of 9/19)
10/24:... @ Virginia Tech .... (could be VT's homecoming game)
10/31:... Bye
11/07:... Nevada or UNLV.... (both get a 13th game)
11/14:... @ Liberty.............. (Liberty would like this and move Western Carolina to 2023)
11/21:... Nevada or UNLV .... (both get a 13th game)
11/28:... @NMSU................ (NMSU is allowed a 13th game)

6 Home and 6 Away. Not bad.

Schools that might take a home game with UConn: Air Force, LA Tech, Southern Miss, ULM. But the dates don't work as well as with Boise St, UAB, VT, Liberty and NMSU.
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(09-18-2019 08:41 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  And to pull a plug for a fellow alumnus, the Magic 8 Ball was invented by Cincinnati alum Abe Bookman.
Wow, talk about coincidence, it just came to mind because it featured in the movie Shazam! on my seat entertainment in my flight from Houston to Beijing.
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(09-15-2019 08:36 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  ACC: Boston College, Wake Forest, NC State, Syracuse, Virginia, UNC, Duke, Georgia Tech


GT will not be playing UCONN in football. While Paul Johnson was there, maybe, largely because teams hated playing the 3O so bad they avoided scheduling GT like the plague. After PJ's run in '14 to the Orange Bowl Ole Miss, South Carolina, and Vanderbilt all vanished from the future schedule. That combined with staggering incompetence led Mike Bobinski (thanks again Purdue for removing him) to schedule such head scratchers as a straight up 1 and 1 with USF and UCF.

GT will gain literally nothing by playing UCONN now. If Edsall was cozy with the O'Leary gang and competent he'd have an assistant position in Atlanta like everybody else practically has already. GT doesn't recruit players up there. If GT wins they get ... nothing. If they lose they get ridiculed. Why schedule that game?

I think you'd find similar answers from nearly everybody in the ACC and SEC except other teams that have trouble getting their schedule filled because nobody wants to play them (read: Clemson, Alabama, 3O teams).
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(09-18-2019 10:05 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  The Big Ten seems to have reneged on their whole "no FCS thing" ...

Have they? When they first announced it, they said they wouldn't require breaking existing contracts, and when they announced it was being relaxed, I seem to recall they still put limits on it. Unless I recall that incorrectly and they've actually gone back to open season on FCS games, it would be more accurate to say they've relaxed their "no FCS" rule to "a limited number of FCS games" rule.
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(09-17-2019 02:10 PM)Bogg Wrote:  
(09-17-2019 01:05 PM)whittx Wrote:  
(09-17-2019 10:46 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  More independents should make scheduling a bit easier. Another avenue for home games may be the Liberty route. I read recently where the Flames are paying @ $800,000 to get ODU to come in and play. I know that paying teams doesn't help the budget, but it may entice some G5 schools not ordinarily interested in a H&H.

Difference is that Liberty has more money than it knows what to do with it while UConn's athletic department is hemorrhaging money.

All that Liberty money comes from institutional transfers, not revenue, same as everyone else.
Difference is that there's a lot more money to transfer at Liberty than U Conn or anyone else has. One advantage of having an internet diploma mill as part of your school.
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(09-18-2019 06:09 PM)whittx Wrote:  
(09-17-2019 02:10 PM)Bogg Wrote:  
(09-17-2019 01:05 PM)whittx Wrote:  
(09-17-2019 10:46 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  More independents should make scheduling a bit easier. Another avenue for home games may be the Liberty route. I read recently where the Flames are paying @ $800,000 to get ODU to come in and play. I know that paying teams doesn't help the budget, but it may entice some G5 schools not ordinarily interested in a H&H.

Difference is that Liberty has more money than it knows what to do with it while UConn's athletic department is hemorrhaging money.

All that Liberty money comes from institutional transfers, not revenue, same as everyone else.
Difference is that there's a lot more money to transfer at Liberty than U Conn or anyone else has. One advantage of having an internet diploma mill as part of your school.

State of Connecticut runs, I think, about a $20 billion budget annually.
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