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(09-15-2019 07:46 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(09-15-2019 07:29 PM)AZcats Wrote:  When Arkansas lost to The Citadel, Broyles fired the coach the next day.

Jack Crowe. Compare Arkansas immediately before that game to after. Arkansas was a 10 win team in '88 and '89 under Ken Hatfield. Jack Crowe took over in '90, they lost to The Citadel in '92 to open the season.

They only have come close to Hatfield since under highly dubious coaches .... 10 wins in '06 under Houston Nutt. 10 wins in '10 and 11 in '11 under Bobby Petrino.

If I were AD in Atlanta would I fire anybody immediately after that game? No. I would fire Patenaude at the end of the season, and bring in Ralph Friedgen as a "consultant" (read: acting OC) effective immediately and also to very thoroughly vet the next OC hire.

No staff is perfect. Dabo threw his DC overboard after WVU boat raced Clemson. Perhaps this is a convenient point for Tech and Patenaude to part company at the end of the season.

Friedgen isn't going to get any better results. He's a good OC, but he's not a miracle workers and that's what it's going to take to get your offense to work with what you have on the OL and at QB.
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(09-15-2019 12:40 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  This is the second straight year Coach Geoff Collins has lost to a FCS team...

2018 - Villanova
2019 - The Citadel

So my question is this a FBS coaching record? Has any other FBS coach in the modern era lost two straight years to FCS teams?

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https://www.sbnation.com/college-fo...94...sults-2018

Scotty Mo just pulled off this accomplishment last year at ECU.
09-16-2019 03:09 PM
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Live from GT Campus...GT60 the new Coaches Radio Show with CGC



Caller : Coach who is the starting QB ?

Coach : We use the ATL if you are Above The Line you will play

Caller: Coach you said we could blame you for that loss , good. Now enough of this ATL bull crap.. name a starter at QB or tell us why one or the other can't start.

Coach : I have said we go by the ATL if your on it you will play we played 5 safeties in the game why haven't you ask who will start at safety ?

Caller: The safeties didn't lose the game , who will start at QB ?

Coach : you don't understand my system...do have another question ?

Caller : Yes coach after the Georgia game what time do you want the moving van at your house.

Coach : you do know the AD gave me a 7 year contract ?

Caller : Yes I'll ask him in a little bit what time he wants the van at his house.
09-16-2019 08:50 PM
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(09-16-2019 08:50 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  Live from GT Campus...GT60 the new Coaches Radio Show with CGC



Caller : Coach who is the starting QB ?

Coach : We use the ATL if you are Above The Line you will play

Caller: Coach you said we could blame you for that loss , good. Now enough of this ATL bull crap.. name a starter at QB or tell us why one or the other can't start.

Coach : I have said we go by the ATL if your on it you will play we played 5 safeties in the game why haven't you ask who will start at safety ?

Caller: The safeties didn't lose the game , who will start at QB ?

Coach : you don't understand my system...do have another question ?

Caller : Yes coach after the Georgia game what time do you want the moving van at your house.

Coach : you do know the AD gave me a 7 year contract ?

Caller : Yes I'll ask him in a little bit what time he wants the van at his house.


There wasn't suppose to be a coach's show today ... but they had one anyway. That'll be interesting when it hits the podcast feed.
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God do I not miss the ATL bull****
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I’m afraid the main conclusion from this loss (to a winless FCS team) is that the coaching staff, and especially Coach Collins, are not yet up to this job. He/they may grow into it, but not getting a team ready to play a scheme we ran for 11 years is inexcusable. Having a bad week of practice when you haven’t played 5 minutes of good football yet is inexcusable. I drank the Kool Aid from day one about Coach Collins and all the social media hype.Now he has to turn it down, get to basics and try to build credibility. I’m not optimistic. The sales pitch was the hype would lead to better talent, but who’s hyped to come hear now, they have no idea how to use Tobias Oliver, and what if we win 0-1 more from here on?
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(09-17-2019 06:13 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  I’m afraid the main conclusion from this loss (to a winless FCS team) is that the coaching staff, and especially Coach Collins, are not yet up to this job. He/they may grow into it, but not getting a team ready to play a scheme we ran for 11 years is inexcusable. Having a bad week of practice when you haven’t played 5 minutes of good football yet is inexcusable. I drank the Kool Aid from day one about Coach Collins and all the social media hype.Now he has to turn it down, get to basics and try to build credibility. I’m not optimistic. The sales pitch was the hype would lead to better talent, but who’s hyped to come hear now, they have no idea how to use Tobias Oliver, and what if we win 0-1 more from here on?


My conclusion is:

1) PJ got the hell out of town because he knew the offensive line -- a CONSTANT problem during all his years -- was completely imploding. And it has done. It was already undersized, underpowered, and lacking depth. They're down 5 OL to injury. Every single person that goes down on the lines at this point is being replaced by a walk on taking their first EVER snaps of CFB.

2) There isn't a single competent passer anywhere on the roster with the possible exception of Graham, which is appropriately also injured and unavailable as the 3rd stringer. Not a single one. None. Zip. Zero. Nada. I would say your second stringer could start right away at GT, but Patenaude would rather platoon 4 walk-ons, one for each down, for reasons not even God knows.

3) Nobody good wanted to coach for PJ on defense or special teams. Or if they did he wasn't listening. That Collins could come in with a shambles roster built for an entirely different system and produce out of the gate a better defense than PJ managed to field in every year but his first (when they were coming off being a Tenuta coached unit) is pretty damning.

4) Patenaude is dubious at best as OC

5) There is a disconnect between the players and Collins, and Collins didn't see it until it was too late. His own defensive captain told the AJC they were sleep walking through practice all week. If you've been as ****** to mediocre as GT has been in the last 3-4 seasons, you should have zero reasons to lolly gag.

6) Every single player who got a PF drive saving first down for Citadel by jacking their *** **** jaw over a Citadel player after a 3rd down stop needs to have lost 30 ibs this week from having to do 1,000 up downs a day in front of the whole team.

7) The ACC league offices are far more interested in cupping Mack Brown's scrotum over 1 second than even mentioning their crew that completely melted down on keeping the game clock at the end of regulation. Had that **** gone on in Chapel Hill for a Mack Brown game the ACC would have fired the entire crew by now.
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(09-17-2019 06:33 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(09-17-2019 06:13 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  I’m afraid the main conclusion from this loss (to a winless FCS team) is that the coaching staff, and especially Coach Collins, are not yet up to this job. He/they may grow into it, but not getting a team ready to play a scheme we ran for 11 years is inexcusable. Having a bad week of practice when you haven’t played 5 minutes of good football yet is inexcusable. I drank the Kool Aid from day one about Coach Collins and all the social media hype.Now he has to turn it down, get to basics and try to build credibility. I’m not optimistic. The sales pitch was the hype would lead to better talent, but who’s hyped to come hear now, they have no idea how to use Tobias Oliver, and what if we win 0-1 more from here on?


My conclusion is:

1) PJ got the hell out of town because he knew the offensive line -- a CONSTANT problem during all his years -- was completely imploding. And it has done. It was already undersized, underpowered, and lacking depth. They're down 5 OL to injury. Every single person that goes down on the lines at this point is being replaced by a walk on taking their first EVER snaps of CFB.

2) There isn't a single competent passer anywhere on the roster with the possible exception of Graham, which is appropriately also injured and unavailable as the 3rd stringer. Not a single one. None. Zip. Zero. Nada. I would say your second stringer could start right away at GT, but Patenaude would rather platoon 4 walk-ons, one for each down, for reasons not even God knows.

3) Nobody good wanted to coach for PJ on defense or special teams. Or if they did he wasn't listening. That Collins could come in with a shambles roster built for an entirely different system and produce out of the gate a better defense than PJ managed to field in every year but his first (when they were coming off being a Tenuta coached unit) is pretty damning.

4) Patenaude is dubious at best as OC

5) There is a disconnect between the players and Collins, and Collins didn't see it until it was too late. His own defensive captain told the AJC they were sleep walking through practice all week. If you've been as ****** to mediocre as GT has been in the last 3-4 seasons, you should have zero reasons to lolly gag.

6) Every single player who got a PF drive saving first down for Citadel by jacking their *** **** jaw over a Citadel player after a 3rd down stop needs to have lost 30 ibs this week from having to do 1,000 up downs a day in front of the whole team.

7) The ACC league offices are far more interested in cupping Mack Brown's scrotum over 1 second than even mentioning their crew that completely melted down on keeping the game clock at the end of regulation. Had that **** gone on in Chapel Hill for a Mack Brown game the ACC would have fired the entire crew by now.

Coach Collins seems to be very similar to Jim Mora Jr with the Falcons. Impressive cliché and slogan to get the job, and public gaffes while employed. The only difference is that Collins won't have the early success that Mora did.
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