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(09-12-2019 07:51 PM)bigdunks Wrote:  

(09-12-2019 07:20 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  Tailgating isn't really a concern. Tailgating will be done at Legion Field and you'll be able to shuttle to the game. This happens at many college football stadiums such as FSU and Alabama. There is no way you're going to see tailgating near Protective Stadium in the near future.

A rep from City Park stated there maybe some room available under one of the bridges to conduct tailgating but my guess is that it will not be available.

Could you rent a top golf space for 6 hours?

You mean a parking space at Top Golf?

While tailgating right next to the stadium may be not be an option. There are several lots of flat land within walking distance of the stadium. And for non tailgaters... there are several decks that could be utilized for parking. Surely this concern has been addressed as to maintain the college atmosphere. UAB just entered an agreement with a a company that supplies tailgating setups for a fee, surely that will continue.

(09-12-2019 08:25 PM)BatesUAB Wrote:  

(09-12-2019 07:03 PM)bigdunks Wrote:  [A poor design occurs when there is more end zone seating compared to sideline seating.

The assertion that this will be the case is just factually incorrect. Look at the drawings. The bulk of the seating is on the sideline, especially the east stands. It looks to have a large lower area and a very large upper deck between the goal lines. You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.

All we can see are drawings. With an upper deck in an end zone and about 30 rows below the press box on one side will make sideline seating very limited. It also limits the future ability to expand unless you want even more end zone seating. A better initial design in my
opinion starts with a large sideline and maybe no seating in one endzone.

(09-12-2019 08:25 PM)BatesUAB Wrote:  

(09-12-2019 07:03 PM)bigdunks Wrote:  [A poor design occurs when there is more end zone seating compared to sideline seating.

The assertion that this will be the case is just factually incorrect. Look at the drawings. The bulk of the seating is on the sideline, especially the east stands. It looks to have a large lower area and a very large upper deck between the goal lines. You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.

I was going to question this statement as well.

(09-12-2019 08:47 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(09-12-2019 08:25 PM)BatesUAB Wrote:  [quote='bigdunks' pid='16295580' dateline='1568333004']
[A poor design occurs when there is more end zone seating compared to sideline seating.

The assertion that this will be the case is just factually incorrect. Look at the drawings. The bulk of the seating is on the sideline, especially the east stands. It looks to have a large lower area and a very large upper deck between the goal lines. You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.

Correction: There will be more seating in both end zones compared to seating on the press box side line. Not necessarily more total end zone seating. I see upper deck seating in both endzones in the drawings. That was my point claiming a poor initial design. I'd rather have little or no end zone seating

(09-12-2019 08:47 PM)ICB Wrote:  While tailgating right next to the stadium may be not be an option. There are several lots of flat land within walking distance of the stadium. And for non tailgaters... there are several decks that could be utilized for parking. Surely this concern has been addressed as to maintain the college atmosphere. UAB just entered an agreement with a a company that supplies tailgating setups for a fee, surely that will continue.

For the Magic City Classic, they use a shuttle service with CrossPlex serving as the staging area to transport people to and from the game. They do this because there isn't enough parking at Legion Field to accommodate the large crowds. Legion Field is the only area that can accommodate all of the tailgating activities. I suspect Legion Field will be used as a tailgating/staging/shuttle service for gameday activities and if it's ran efficiently, it will not be that big of a deal.

One area that may be available for tailgating is the space underneath the Hwy 280/31 bridge on the backside of the Post Office. Or possibly the huge parking lot across the street from the 2121 Bldg off 8th Avenue North. But more than likely these areas will be used for additional parking.

(09-12-2019 09:00 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(09-12-2019 08:47 PM)ICB Wrote:  While tailgating right next to the stadium may be not be an option. There are several lots of flat land within walking distance of the stadium. And for non tailgaters... there are several decks that could be utilized for parking. Surely this concern has been addressed as to maintain the college atmosphere. UAB just entered an agreement with a a company that supplies tailgating setups for a fee, surely that will continue.

For the Magic City Classic, they use a shuttle service with CrossPlex serving as the staging area to transport people to and from the game. They do this because there isn't enough parking at Legion Field to accommodate the large crowds. Legion Field is the only area that can accommodate all of the tailgating activities. I suspect Legion Field will be used as a tailgating/staging/shuttle service for gameday activities and if it's ran efficiently, it will not be that big of a deal.

One area that may be available for tailgating is the space underneath the Hwy 280/31 bridge on the backside of the Post Office. Or possibly the huge parking lot across the street from the 2121 Bldg off 8th Avenue North. But more than likely these areas will be used for additional parking.

I’ve never seen or experienced remote tailgating... seems to me you could just as well grill at the house, the atmosphere of being in sight of the stadium, walking distance at least is key for me. If they don’t, so be it. The lot across from 2121 is just one, there are several others if you look on google satellite maps.

(09-12-2019 09:33 PM)ICB Wrote:  

(09-12-2019 09:00 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(09-12-2019 08:47 PM)ICB Wrote:  While tailgating right next to the stadium may be not be an option. There are several lots of flat land within walking distance of the stadium. And for non tailgaters... there are several decks that could be utilized for parking. Surely this concern has been addressed as to maintain the college atmosphere. UAB just entered an agreement with a a company that supplies tailgating setups for a fee, surely that will continue.

For the Magic City Classic, they use a shuttle service with CrossPlex serving as the staging area to transport people to and from the game. They do this because there isn't enough parking at Legion Field to accommodate the large crowds. Legion Field is the only area that can accommodate all of the tailgating activities. I suspect Legion Field will be used as a tailgating/staging/shuttle service for gameday activities and if it's ran efficiently, it will not be that big of a deal.

One area that may be available for tailgating is the space underneath the Hwy 280/31 bridge on the backside of the Post Office. Or possibly the huge parking lot across the street from the 2121 Bldg off 8th Avenue North. But more than likely these areas will be used for additional parking.

I’ve never seen or experienced remote tailgating... seems to me you could just as well grill at the house, the atmosphere of being in sight of the stadium, walking distance at least is key for me. If they don’t, so be it. The lot across from 2121 is just one, there are several others if you look on google satellite maps.

What about tailgating on the top floor of the civic center parking deck. Now that would be awesome. If the caraway site is not sold or in use, some portions of it can be used for tailgating as well. Needless to say, it may become a creative process of determining the best/available locations for tailgaters. I forgot the new I59/20 bridges downtown are so tall and expansive, the space underneath can also be carved out for game day/week experiences as well.

Looks like there may be some new greenspace 1-2 blocks from the stadium that will part of the new Citywalk park that's being created along with the bridge replacement. Here's an article talking about the plans with a picture of where the proposed green space is:

https://www.alabamanewscenter.com/2019/0...-together/

From the article - Tad Snider, executive director and CEO of the Birmingham-Jefferson Civic Center Authority, said the master plan “checks a lot of boxes” – connecting the convention complex “better than ever before” to the rest of downtown while creating a new regional attraction. He said the proposed open space on the east end could serve as a great tailgating area during UAB football game, enhancing the game-day experience for fans. Plans call for completing construction of CityWalk BHAM by spring 2021.

(09-12-2019 10:40 PM)hooverblazer Wrote:  Looks like there may be some new greenspace 1-2 blocks from the stadium that will part of the new Citywalk park that's being created along with the bridge replacement. Here's an article talking about the plans with a picture of where the proposed green space is:

https://www.alabamanewscenter.com/2019/0...-together/

From the article - Tad Snider, executive director and CEO of the Birmingham-Jefferson Civic Center Authority, said the master plan “checks a lot of boxes” – connecting the convention complex “better than ever before” to the rest of downtown while creating a new regional attraction. He said the proposed open space on the east end could serve as a great tailgating area during UAB football game, enhancing the game-day experience for fans. Plans call for completing construction of CityWalk BHAM by spring 2021.

I remember this article and that CityWalk would include some type of tailgating area. This would probably work for UAB and the bowl game if the plans come to fruition.

The Liberty Bowl is downtown and off campus. I wonder how Memphis handles tail gating for their home games?

(09-12-2019 08:54 PM)bigdunks Wrote:  I see upper deck seating in both endzones in the drawings.

Then you're looking at drawings of a different stadium. None, zero, of the drawings of Protective include end zone upper decks. Again, not entitled to your own facts. I'm really starting to get a little perturbed by people making false claims, be it through ignorance, laziness or just plain deceptiveness. And the more of a burr I get under my saddle about it the more I'm going to start calling people out on it.

(09-13-2019 07:13 AM)BatesUAB Wrote:  

(09-12-2019 08:54 PM)bigdunks Wrote:  I see upper deck seating in both endzones in the drawings.

Then you're looking at drawings of a different stadium. None, zero, of the drawings of Protective include end zone upper decks. Again, not entitled to your own facts. I'm really starting to get a little perturbed by people making false claims, be it through ignorance, laziness or just plain deceptiveness. And the more of a burr I get under my saddle about it the more I'm going to start calling people out on it.

Yeah, I'm not exactly sure what Bigdunks is looking at:

(09-13-2019 07:31 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(09-13-2019 07:13 AM)BatesUAB Wrote:  

(09-12-2019 08:54 PM)bigdunks Wrote:  I see upper deck seating in both endzones in the drawings.

Then you're looking at drawings of a different stadium. None, zero, of the drawings of Protective include end zone upper decks. Again, not entitled to your own facts. I'm really starting to get a little perturbed by people making false claims, be it through ignorance, laziness or just plain deceptiveness. And the more of a burr I get under my saddle about it the more I'm going to start calling people out on it.

Yeah, I'm not exactly sure what Bigdunks is looking at:

I was looking at another drawing where all the seats were green. Again, I've been told here several times none of the drawings are the final ones. In this drawing I can not see the seating configuration in the near end zone,

(09-13-2019 07:43 AM)bigdunks Wrote:  

(09-13-2019 07:31 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(09-13-2019 07:13 AM)BatesUAB Wrote:  

(09-12-2019 08:54 PM)bigdunks Wrote:  I see upper deck seating in both endzones in the drawings.

Then you're looking at drawings of a different stadium. None, zero, of the drawings of Protective include end zone upper decks. Again, not entitled to your own facts. I'm really starting to get a little perturbed by people making false claims, be it through ignorance, laziness or just plain deceptiveness. And the more of a burr I get under my saddle about it the more I'm going to start calling people out on it.

Yeah, I'm not exactly sure what Bigdunks is looking at:

I was looking at another drawing where all the seats were green. Again, I've been told here several times none of the drawings are the final ones. In this drawing I can not see the seating configuration in the near end zone,

This one?

(09-13-2019 07:50 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(09-13-2019 07:43 AM)bigdunks Wrote:  

(09-13-2019 07:31 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(09-13-2019 07:13 AM)BatesUAB Wrote:  

(09-12-2019 08:54 PM)bigdunks Wrote:  I see upper deck seating in both endzones in the drawings.

Then you're looking at drawings of a different stadium. None, zero, of the drawings of Protective include end zone upper decks. Again, not entitled to your own facts. I'm really starting to get a little perturbed by people making false claims, be it through ignorance, laziness or just plain deceptiveness. And the more of a burr I get under my saddle about it the more I'm going to start calling people out on it.

Yeah, I'm not exactly sure what Bigdunks is looking at:

I was looking at another drawing where all the seats were green. Again, I've been told here several times none of the drawings are the final ones. In this drawing I can not see the seating configuration in the near end zone,

This one? yes

(09-13-2019 06:55 AM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  The Liberty Bowl is downtown and off campus. I wonder how Memphis handles tail gating for their home games?

The Liberty Bowl is in the middle of a giant park thats bigger than the park Legion Field sits in. Plenty of room for tailgating there.

(09-13-2019 08:24 AM)BlazerMatt Wrote:  

(09-13-2019 06:55 AM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  The Liberty Bowl is downtown and off campus. I wonder how Memphis handles tail gating for their home games?

The Liberty Bowl is in the middle of a giant park thats bigger than the park Legion Field sits in. Plenty of room for tailgating there.

Yeah, I think it's the state fairgrounds, and it is actually several miles out from downtown.

(09-13-2019 06:14 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(09-12-2019 10:40 PM)hooverblazer Wrote:  Looks like there may be some new greenspace 1-2 blocks from the stadium that will part of the new Citywalk park that's being created along with the bridge replacement. Here's an article talking about the plans with a picture of where the proposed green space is:

https://www.alabamanewscenter.com/2019/0...-together/

From the article - Tad Snider, executive director and CEO of the Birmingham-Jefferson Civic Center Authority, said the master plan “checks a lot of boxes” – connecting the convention complex “better than ever before” to the rest of downtown while creating a new regional attraction. He said the proposed open space on the east end could serve as a great tailgating area during UAB football game, enhancing the game-day experience for fans. Plans call for completing construction of CityWalk BHAM by spring 2021.

I remember this article and that CityWalk would include some type of tailgating area. This would probably work for UAB and the bowl game if the plans come to fruition.

That would be this area (note: Uptown is in the top left corner of this rendering)

(09-12-2019 02:41 PM)GreenGiant67 Wrote:  Forget the "home" side or "visitors" side, after looking at the drawings and sketches, I would like to know where the tailgating section and Blazer Village will be located. It doesn't look like there is much room around the stadium for that. And where is parking?

I'm wondering about the area south of, and across the street from Top Golf and east of, and across the street from the stadium. It's ALDOT property now but there have been renderings showing the future use as for a hotel and parking deck. ALDOT is currently using it as a staging area/lay down yard.

I wonder if any thought has been given to using this area for tailgating until the hotel comes, if ever. It's a pretty good size area.