(09-12-2019 05:29 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: You guys keep trying to convince yourselves that these GOPers aren’t pure scum. To hold a vote while “real Americans” go out and hold a memorial for the 9-11 victims. It’s not the scum bags in the GOP seats. It’s their enabling voters that don’t hold them accountable.
Mach, if you will pay attention for a few minutes and set aside your blind hatred for the GOP I'll educate you on what really happened.
1. The democrats are 100% lying about the events that took place yesterday. This is irrefutable. The screamed at the sky and turned this into a national story about how the GOP used dirty tricks to override the veto. THAT IS NOT WHAT HAPPENED, AND THERE IS PROOF.
2. Since Cooper vetoed the budget, Speaker Moore has kept the override vote on the official calendar. During negotiations, Cooper asked the speaker to take the vote off the calendar during negotiations. Speaker Moore told him he would not take the vote off the calendar because this was a good budget that had support from democrats in both the house and senate. Cooper was holding the entire NC budget hostage for medicaid expansion that is wildly unpopular in NC. Speaker Moore also told Gov Cooper he would hold a vote the first chance he had to override the veto.
3. If the GOP wanted to play dirty politics and override the budget, they could have done so on multiple occasions. They did not.
4. Democrats are LYING when they say they were told there would be no votes in this session. It was announced Tuesday
5:20 second mark and there were no objections. No-vote sessions are called and announced on the calendar and from the Speaker's email ONLY. The VERY FIRST item on the calendar for Wed am was the budget veto override.
5. Democrats are lying that "they" were at 9/11 memorials. ONE democrat house member was at a memorial service. Democrat Deb Butler let slip during her outburst where most Dems really were. In VIOLATION OF A COURT ORDER that all work on the new district maps be done IN PUBLIC VIEW, she stated most democrats were 'downstairs' in a closed room working on the new maps when the budget veto override vote was called.
6. Democrats ALLOWED this vote to take place. House rules state there must be a quorum (61 members present and voting) to pass bills. There were 55 republicans and 12 democrats presents. If the democrats really wanted to stop the vote they had TWO options. 1 - walk out of the chamber, leaving the Speaker without a quorum, or 2 - call the member that were downstairs working on maps upstairs to vote against the override. They did neither.
Truth is (and Speaker Moore has said so in interviews this morning) that many democrats quietly thanked him for getting this done without them having to vote. Gov Cooper has threatened to have any democrats that vote for the override primaried in 2020.
Remember, this was a budget that passed WITH democrat votes in June. It's a good budget. Teachers get yet another raise, teachers get money to spend on classroom supplies. State workers get a raise. I even think that NC taxpayers are getting a refund on excess taxes paid (that may be in another bill and not part of the original budget, i can't remember). Gov Cooper vetoed the bill solely because he wanted medicaid expansion to be adopted. Think about that, he held up and entire TWO YEAR BUDGET for a single item that doesn't even have broad democrat support in NC.
Now, do you think that there will be any reporting of the actual truth in the national press? Of course not. Democrats are lying to manipulate public opinion because that's all they've got. NC is almost immeasurably better off since Republicans took control of the state legislature in 2010. All the democrats have left is to lie.
