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Brady White's passing efficiency rating
After 2 wks he is ranked 32 at 168. One game does not a season make, but his effort against Southern brought his efficiency up qluite a bit.
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RE: Brady White's passing efficiency rating
I have been watching with some interest in the almost constant criticism of Brady White with most posters comparing him poorly to Riley Ferguson. Some posters seem to think that there is some disparity between the receiving group Riley had vs. what Brady has and the only difference here, to me, it that Riley had Anthony Miller, who is probably the best receiver in our history with the possible exception of Isaac Bruce. Throw the ball anywhere near Miller it is caught about 90% of the time.

These stats may have been posted earlier but I did not see a major difference in the two for their 1st years. Remains to be seen in the second year but I expect Brady to be much improved since he is fully recovered this year, in better shape, and, in my opinion, the smarter of the two quarterbacks (currently, working on his second masters). Here the numbers and I vote we stick with him.

Brady White Riley Ferguson
2018 2016
Attempts 392 Attempts 443
Completions 246 Completions 280
Total Yards 3296 Total Yards 3698
% Completed 62.8% % Completed 63.2%
Yards per Completion 8.4 Yards per Completion 8.3
Touchdowns 26 Touchdowns 32
Interceptions 9 Interceptions 10
Quarterback Rating 150.7 Quarterback Rating 152.7


2019 (2 Games) 2017
Attempts 52 Attempts 474
Completions 40 Completions 299
% Completed 76.9% % Completed 63.1%
Yards per Completion 9.8 Yards per Completion 9.0
Touchdowns 2 Touchdowns 38
Interceptions 1 Interceptions 9
Quarterback Rating 168 Quarterback Rating 161.2
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RE: Brady White's passing efficiency rating
(09-09-2019 05:20 PM)Old Tiger Wrote:  I have been watching with some interest in the almost constant criticism of Brady White with most posters comparing him poorly to Riley Ferguson. Some posters seem to think that there is some disparity between the receiving group Riley had vs. what Brady has and the only difference here, to me, it that Riley had Anthony Miller, who is probably the best receiver in our history with the possible exception of Isaac Bruce. Throw the ball anywhere near Miller it is caught about 90% of the time.

These stats may have been posted earlier but I did not see a major difference in the two for their 1st years. Remains to be seen in the second year but I expect Brady to be much improved since he is fully recovered this year, in better shape, and, in my opinion, the smarter of the two quarterbacks (currently, working on his second masters). Here the numbers and I vote we stick with him.

Brady White Riley Ferguson
2018 2016
Attempts 392 Attempts 443
Completions 246 Completions 280
Total Yards 3296 Total Yards 3698
% Completed 62.8% % Completed 63.2%
Yards per Completion 8.4 Yards per Completion 8.3
Touchdowns 26 Touchdowns 32
Interceptions 9 Interceptions 10
Quarterback Rating 150.7 Quarterback Rating 152.7


2019 (2 Games) 2017
Attempts 52 Attempts 474
Completions 40 Completions 299
% Completed 76.9% % Completed 63.1%
Yards per Completion 9.8 Yards per Completion 9.0
Touchdowns 2 Touchdowns 38
Interceptions 1 Interceptions 9
Quarterback Rating 168 Quarterback Rating 161.2

Good post but don’t say ‘possible” exception of Issac Bruce who should be in NFL HOF. I love Miller but Bruce best Tiger receiver ever hands down. Did you see him play at Memphis in a run system? M

18,000 plus receiving yards in NFL before passing systems became the norm.
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RE: Brady White's passing efficiency rating
(09-09-2019 05:33 PM)WiseMan Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 05:20 PM)Old Tiger Wrote:  I have been watching with some interest in the almost constant criticism of Brady White with most posters comparing him poorly to Riley Ferguson. Some posters seem to think that there is some disparity between the receiving group Riley had vs. what Brady has and the only difference here, to me, it that Riley had Anthony Miller, who is probably the best receiver in our history with the possible exception of Isaac Bruce. Throw the ball anywhere near Miller it is caught about 90% of the time.

These stats may have been posted earlier but I did not see a major difference in the two for their 1st years. Remains to be seen in the second year but I expect Brady to be much improved since he is fully recovered this year, in better shape, and, in my opinion, the smarter of the two quarterbacks (currently, working on his second masters). Here the numbers and I vote we stick with him.

Brady White Riley Ferguson
2018 2016
Attempts 392 Attempts 443
Completions 246 Completions 280
Total Yards 3296 Total Yards 3698
% Completed 62.8% % Completed 63.2%
Yards per Completion 8.4 Yards per Completion 8.3
Touchdowns 26 Touchdowns 32
Interceptions 9 Interceptions 10
Quarterback Rating 150.7 Quarterback Rating 152.7


2019 (2 Games) 2017
Attempts 52 Attempts 474
Completions 40 Completions 299
% Completed 76.9% % Completed 63.1%
Yards per Completion 9.8 Yards per Completion 9.0
Touchdowns 2 Touchdowns 38
Interceptions 1 Interceptions 9
Quarterback Rating 168 Quarterback Rating 161.2

Good post but don’t say ‘possible” exception of Issac Bruce who should be in NFL HOF. I love Miller but Bruce best Tiger receiver ever hands down. Did you see him play at Memphis in a run system? M

18,000 plus receiving yards in NFL before passing systems became the norm.

If the 1993 team ran the offense we run today we would have gone 11-0. We had some terrible losses that year. We had some great offensive weapons:

QB - Steve Matthews
RB - Larry Porter
RB - Marcus Holliday
WR - Isaac Bruce
WR - Mac Cody

We beat miss. state and ole miss that year and lost to tulsa and cincy and louisana lafayette.

I'd put Matthews up against any QB in Tiger history. That dude had a cannon for an arm.
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(09-09-2019 05:33 PM)WiseMan Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 05:20 PM)Old Tiger Wrote:  I have been watching with some interest in the almost constant criticism of Brady White with most posters comparing him poorly to Riley Ferguson. Some posters seem to think that there is some disparity between the receiving group Riley had vs. what Brady has and the only difference here, to me, it that Riley had Anthony Miller, who is probably the best receiver in our history with the possible exception of Isaac Bruce. Throw the ball anywhere near Miller it is caught about 90% of the time.

These stats may have been posted earlier but I did not see a major difference in the two for their 1st years. Remains to be seen in the second year but I expect Brady to be much improved since he is fully recovered this year, in better shape, and, in my opinion, the smarter of the two quarterbacks (currently, working on his second masters). Here the numbers and I vote we stick with him.

Brady White Riley Ferguson
2018 2016
Attempts 392 Attempts 443
Completions 246 Completions 280
Total Yards 3296 Total Yards 3698
% Completed 62.8% % Completed 63.2%
Yards per Completion 8.4 Yards per Completion 8.3
Touchdowns 26 Touchdowns 32
Interceptions 9 Interceptions 10
Quarterback Rating 150.7 Quarterback Rating 152.7


2019 (2 Games) 2017
Attempts 52 Attempts 474
Completions 40 Completions 299
% Completed 76.9% % Completed 63.1%
Yards per Completion 9.8 Yards per Completion 9.0
Touchdowns 2 Touchdowns 38
Interceptions 1 Interceptions 9
Quarterback Rating 168 Quarterback Rating 161.2

Good post but don’t say ‘possible” exception of Issac Bruce who should be in NFL HOF. I love Miller but Bruce best Tiger receiver ever hands down. Did you see him play at Memphis in a run system? M

18,000 plus receiving yards in NFL before passing systems became the norm.

Bruce was phenomenal. He did play in a pass oriented system though at St. Louis with Kurt Warner and “the greatest show on turf” offense.
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(09-09-2019 05:20 PM)Old Tiger Wrote:  I have been watching with some interest in the almost constant criticism of Brady White with most posters comparing him poorly to Riley Ferguson. Some posters seem to think that there is some disparity between the receiving group Riley had vs. what Brady has and the only difference here, to me, it that Riley had Anthony Miller, who is probably the best receiver in our history with the possible exception of Isaac Bruce. Throw the ball anywhere near Miller it is caught about 90% of the time.

These stats may have been posted earlier but I did not see a major difference in the two for their 1st years. Remains to be seen in the second year but I expect Brady to be much improved since he is fully recovered this year, in better shape, and, in my opinion, the smarter of the two quarterbacks (currently, working on his second masters). Here the numbers and I vote we stick with him.

Brady White Riley Ferguson
2018 2016
Attempts 392 Attempts 443
Completions 246 Completions 280
Total Yards 3296 Total Yards 3698
% Completed 62.8% % Completed 63.2%
Yards per Completion 8.4 Yards per Completion 8.3
Touchdowns 26 Touchdowns 32
Interceptions 9 Interceptions 10
Quarterback Rating 150.7 Quarterback Rating 152.7


2019 (2 Games) 2017
Attempts 52 Attempts 474
Completions 40 Completions 299
% Completed 76.9% % Completed 63.1%
Yards per Completion 9.8 Yards per Completion 9.0
Touchdowns 2 Touchdowns 38
Interceptions 1 Interceptions 9
Quarterback Rating 168 Quarterback Rating 161.2
I stated this last year but the herd mentality here tends to drown things out.

In 2017 Miller caught 1/3 of riley's passes... replace Miller with coxie and Rileys stats are much lower because not only did Miller catch a ton of passes his presence allowed other players more space. Teams don't fear Coxie

All that said riley is a better qb but not by as much as some on here want to think
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(09-09-2019 06:20 PM)southpaw1 Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 05:33 PM)WiseMan Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 05:20 PM)Old Tiger Wrote:  I have been watching with some interest in the almost constant criticism of Brady White with most posters comparing him poorly to Riley Ferguson. Some posters seem to think that there is some disparity between the receiving group Riley had vs. what Brady has and the only difference here, to me, it that Riley had Anthony Miller, who is probably the best receiver in our history with the possible exception of Isaac Bruce. Throw the ball anywhere near Miller it is caught about 90% of the time.

These stats may have been posted earlier but I did not see a major difference in the two for their 1st years. Remains to be seen in the second year but I expect Brady to be much improved since he is fully recovered this year, in better shape, and, in my opinion, the smarter of the two quarterbacks (currently, working on his second masters). Here the numbers and I vote we stick with him.

Brady White Riley Ferguson
2018 2016
Attempts 392 Attempts 443
Completions 246 Completions 280
Total Yards 3296 Total Yards 3698
% Completed 62.8% % Completed 63.2%
Yards per Completion 8.4 Yards per Completion 8.3
Touchdowns 26 Touchdowns 32
Interceptions 9 Interceptions 10
Quarterback Rating 150.7 Quarterback Rating 152.7


2019 (2 Games) 2017
Attempts 52 Attempts 474
Completions 40 Completions 299
% Completed 76.9% % Completed 63.1%
Yards per Completion 9.8 Yards per Completion 9.0
Touchdowns 2 Touchdowns 38
Interceptions 1 Interceptions 9
Quarterback Rating 168 Quarterback Rating 161.2

Good post but don’t say ‘possible” exception of Issac Bruce who should be in NFL HOF. I love Miller but Bruce best Tiger receiver ever hands down. Did you see him play at Memphis in a run system? M

18,000 plus receiving yards in NFL before passing systems became the norm.

If the 1993 team ran the offense we run today we would have gone 11-0. We had some terrible losses that year. We had some great offensive weapons:

QB - Steve Matthews
RB - Larry Porter
RB - Marcus Holliday
WR - Isaac Bruce
WR - Mac Cody

We beat miss. state and ole miss that year and lost to tulsa and cincy and louisana lafayette.

I'd put Matthews up against any QB in Tiger history. That dude had a cannon for an arm.

Are you thinking of the 1992 team; we lost the 5 games by a combined 17 points?

Yes Bruce played in a passing offense with the Rams but it was unique then and not as pass happy as the NFL is now.
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(09-09-2019 06:20 PM)southpaw1 Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 05:33 PM)WiseMan Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 05:20 PM)Old Tiger Wrote:  I have been watching with some interest in the almost constant criticism of Brady White with most posters comparing him poorly to Riley Ferguson. Some posters seem to think that there is some disparity between the receiving group Riley had vs. what Brady has and the only difference here, to me, it that Riley had Anthony Miller, who is probably the best receiver in our history with the possible exception of Isaac Bruce. Throw the ball anywhere near Miller it is caught about 90% of the time.

These stats may have been posted earlier but I did not see a major difference in the two for their 1st years. Remains to be seen in the second year but I expect Brady to be much improved since he is fully recovered this year, in better shape, and, in my opinion, the smarter of the two quarterbacks (currently, working on his second masters). Here the numbers and I vote we stick with him.

Brady White Riley Ferguson
2018 2016
Attempts 392 Attempts 443
Completions 246 Completions 280
Total Yards 3296 Total Yards 3698
% Completed 62.8% % Completed 63.2%
Yards per Completion 8.4 Yards per Completion 8.3
Touchdowns 26 Touchdowns 32
Interceptions 9 Interceptions 10
Quarterback Rating 150.7 Quarterback Rating 152.7


2019 (2 Games) 2017
Attempts 52 Attempts 474
Completions 40 Completions 299
% Completed 76.9% % Completed 63.1%
Yards per Completion 9.8 Yards per Completion 9.0
Touchdowns 2 Touchdowns 38
Interceptions 1 Interceptions 9
Quarterback Rating 168 Quarterback Rating 161.2

Good post but don’t say ‘possible” exception of Issac Bruce who should be in NFL HOF. I love Miller but Bruce best Tiger receiver ever hands down. Did you see him play at Memphis in a run system? M

18,000 plus receiving yards in NFL before passing systems became the norm.

If the 1993 team ran the offense we run today we would have gone 11-0. We had some terrible losses that year. We had some great offensive weapons:

QB - Steve Matthews
RB - Larry Porter
RB - Marcus Holliday
WR - Isaac Bruce
WR - Mac Cody

We beat miss. state and ole miss that year and lost to tulsa and cincy and louisana lafayette.

I'd put Matthews up against any QB in Tiger history. That dude had a cannon for an arm.

93 lost at home to Louisville by 24 points. Then lost by 24 at Miami.
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(09-09-2019 08:08 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 05:20 PM)Old Tiger Wrote:  I have been watching with some interest in the almost constant criticism of Brady White with most posters comparing him poorly to Riley Ferguson. Some posters seem to think that there is some disparity between the receiving group Riley had vs. what Brady has and the only difference here, to me, it that Riley had Anthony Miller, who is probably the best receiver in our history with the possible exception of Isaac Bruce. Throw the ball anywhere near Miller it is caught about 90% of the time.

These stats may have been posted earlier but I did not see a major difference in the two for their 1st years. Remains to be seen in the second year but I expect Brady to be much improved since he is fully recovered this year, in better shape, and, in my opinion, the smarter of the two quarterbacks (currently, working on his second masters). Here the numbers and I vote we stick with him.

Brady White Riley Ferguson
2018 2016
Attempts 392 Attempts 443
Completions 246 Completions 280
Total Yards 3296 Total Yards 3698
% Completed 62.8% % Completed 63.2%
Yards per Completion 8.4 Yards per Completion 8.3
Touchdowns 26 Touchdowns 32
Interceptions 9 Interceptions 10
Quarterback Rating 150.7 Quarterback Rating 152.7


2019 (2 Games) 2017
Attempts 52 Attempts 474
Completions 40 Completions 299
% Completed 76.9% % Completed 63.1%
Yards per Completion 9.8 Yards per Completion 9.0
Touchdowns 2 Touchdowns 38
Interceptions 1 Interceptions 9
Quarterback Rating 168 Quarterback Rating 161.2
I stated this last year but the herd mentality here tends to drown things out.

In 2017 Miller caught 1/3 of riley's passes... replace Miller with coxie and Rileys stats are much lower because not only did Miller catch a ton of passes his presence allowed other players more space. Teams don't fear Coxie

All that said riley is a better qb but not by as much as some on here want to think

That is absolutely INSANE on so many levels. First, the eye test. Anyone can see that Ferguson was 10X better than White, and not only was he a better passer by a mile, he had a much quicker release, he was less immobile than White and he was 10X harder to take down.

Second, White makes all of our wide receivers look not as good because he has such a weak arm and can't escape any pressure. I hope you aren't implying that White would be able to make any of the deep throws that Ferguson made and I hope you aren't implying that Ferguson wouldn't be able to hit those -5 to 5 yard passes that White hits.

Third, you want to bring up Miller? Fine. Ferguson had Henderson and Pollard as freshmen and Taylor as a sophomore. Our running backs had 48 touchdowns last season and we had the most 40+ yard runs in the entire NCAA.

If Ferguson was our quarterback last year we would have punted a dozen times all season.
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You honestly believe that Riley would be that much more successful without Anthony Miller or Phil Mayhew to throw to?

Since you love pointing out lack of scoring, why couldn't Riley score in the 4th quarter of the Liberty Bowl? Was it because he is a terrible QB or because he didn't have Ant for most of it.

If, as you say, he can complete all those throws that Brady does... why didn't he? Why isn't his completion percentage higher? Why isn't the yards per completion destroying Brady? I mean all opposing defenses have to do is cover 10 yards down the field against Brady, it should be harder for him to complete passes. The opposing defense had to cover 90% of the field against Riley, it should've been a cake walk. His average completion should easily dominate poor lil noodle arm Brady.

Once again, Stammers, you were told point blank that Brady White checked into a majority of those long runs. Why you choose to ignore it now to make your ridiculous points amuses me.
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(09-10-2019 11:23 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  You honestly believe that Riley would be that much more successful without Anthony Miller or Phil Mayhew to throw to?

Since you love pointing out lack of scoring, why couldn't Riley score in the 4th quarter of the Liberty Bowl? Was it because he is a terrible QB or because he didn't have Ant for most of it.

If, as you say, he can complete all those throws that Brady does... why didn't he? Why isn't his completion percentage higher? Why isn't the yards per completion destroying Brady? I mean all opposing defenses have to do is cover 10 yards down the field against Brady, it should be harder for him to complete passes. The opposing defense had to cover 90% of the field against Riley, it should've been a cake walk. His average completion should easily dominate poor lil noodle arm Brady.

Once again, Stammers, you were told point blank that Brady White checked into a majority of those long runs. Why you choose to ignore it now to make your ridiculous points amuses me.

Quote:If, as you say, he can complete all those throws that Brady does... why didn't he? Why isn't his completion percentage higher?

You are honestly stupid.

Quote:Since you love pointing out lack of scoring, why couldn't Riley score in the 4th quarter of the Liberty Bowl? Was it because he is a terrible QB or because he didn't have Ant for most of it.


You are going to pick out one quarter to defend White? Ferguson was without Miller and Henderson btw. Now, not only are you crapping on our offensive line, wide receivers and tight ends, you are now crapping on Ferguson.

His percentage wasn't higher because he never had a game where 9 of his first 10 passes didn't travel past the line of scrimmage. Those 9 passes traveled an aggregate -21 yards from the line of scrimmage, btw. The pass that traveled 30 yards was thrown way late and out of bounds. The original target on that play was 5 yards downfield and wide open, but White was late on that one and had to scramble.

Ferguson never had a game where 2/3 of his passes traveled less than 10 yards from the line of scrimmage. If White tried to play like Ferguson it would be a total disaster. His completion percentage would be under 50%.

Quote:Once again, Stammers, you were told point blank that Brady White checked into a majority of those long runs. Why you choose to ignore it now to make your ridiculous points amuses me.

This is the most idiotic of all your points. Not only are you giving credit to White for playing soft toss behind the line of scrimmage, you are now giving him credit for Henderson, Taylor and Pollard going on those crazy runs.

You need help.
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(09-10-2019 09:56 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
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(09-09-2019 05:33 PM)WiseMan Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 05:20 PM)Old Tiger Wrote:  I have been watching with some interest in the almost constant criticism of Brady White with most posters comparing him poorly to Riley Ferguson. Some posters seem to think that there is some disparity between the receiving group Riley had vs. what Brady has and the only difference here, to me, it that Riley had Anthony Miller, who is probably the best receiver in our history with the possible exception of Isaac Bruce. Throw the ball anywhere near Miller it is caught about 90% of the time.

These stats may have been posted earlier but I did not see a major difference in the two for their 1st years. Remains to be seen in the second year but I expect Brady to be much improved since he is fully recovered this year, in better shape, and, in my opinion, the smarter of the two quarterbacks (currently, working on his second masters). Here the numbers and I vote we stick with him.

Brady White Riley Ferguson
2018 2016
Attempts 392 Attempts 443
Completions 246 Completions 280
Total Yards 3296 Total Yards 3698
% Completed 62.8% % Completed 63.2%
Yards per Completion 8.4 Yards per Completion 8.3
Touchdowns 26 Touchdowns 32
Interceptions 9 Interceptions 10
Quarterback Rating 150.7 Quarterback Rating 152.7


2019 (2 Games) 2017
Attempts 52 Attempts 474
Completions 40 Completions 299
% Completed 76.9% % Completed 63.1%
Yards per Completion 9.8 Yards per Completion 9.0
Touchdowns 2 Touchdowns 38
Interceptions 1 Interceptions 9
Quarterback Rating 168 Quarterback Rating 161.2

Good post but don’t say ‘possible” exception of Issac Bruce who should be in NFL HOF. I love Miller but Bruce best Tiger receiver ever hands down. Did you see him play at Memphis in a run system? M

18,000 plus receiving yards in NFL before passing systems became the norm.

If the 1993 team ran the offense we run today we would have gone 11-0. We had some terrible losses that year. We had some great offensive weapons:

QB - Steve Matthews
RB - Larry Porter
RB - Marcus Holliday
WR - Isaac Bruce
WR - Mac Cody

We beat miss. state and ole miss that year and lost to tulsa and cincy and louisana lafayette.

I'd put Matthews up against any QB in Tiger history. That dude had a cannon for an arm.

93 lost at home to Louisville by 24 points. Then lost by 24 at Miami.

Matthews broke his leg against Ole Miss. Didn't play at Miami
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Results are the ultimate measure. White is delivering and the stats show it.

The which guy was better argument doesn't put a single point on the scoreboard.
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White is our qb for the next 2 years barring injury. So might as well enjoy.
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(09-11-2019 01:24 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 11:23 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  You honestly believe that Riley would be that much more successful without Anthony Miller or Phil Mayhew to throw to?

Since you love pointing out lack of scoring, why couldn't Riley score in the 4th quarter of the Liberty Bowl? Was it because he is a terrible QB or because he didn't have Ant for most of it.

If, as you say, he can complete all those throws that Brady does... why didn't he? Why isn't his completion percentage higher? Why isn't the yards per completion destroying Brady? I mean all opposing defenses have to do is cover 10 yards down the field against Brady, it should be harder for him to complete passes. The opposing defense had to cover 90% of the field against Riley, it should've been a cake walk. His average completion should easily dominate poor lil noodle arm Brady.

Once again, Stammers, you were told point blank that Brady White checked into a majority of those long runs. Why you choose to ignore it now to make your ridiculous points amuses me.

Quote:If, as you say, he can complete all those throws that Brady does... why didn't he? Why isn't his completion percentage higher?

You are honestly stupid.

Quote:Since you love pointing out lack of scoring, why couldn't Riley score in the 4th quarter of the Liberty Bowl? Was it because he is a terrible QB or because he didn't have Ant for most of it.


You are going to pick out one quarter to defend White? Ferguson was without Miller and Henderson btw. Now, not only are you crapping on our offensive line, wide receivers and tight ends, you are now crapping on Ferguson.

His percentage wasn't higher because he never had a game where 9 of his first 10 passes didn't travel past the line of scrimmage. Those 9 passes traveled an aggregate -21 yards from the line of scrimmage, btw. The pass that traveled 30 yards was thrown way late and out of bounds. The original target on that play was 5 yards downfield and wide open, but White was late on that one and had to scramble.

Ferguson never had a game where 2/3 of his passes traveled less than 10 yards from the line of scrimmage. If White tried to play like Ferguson it would be a total disaster. His completion percentage would be under 50%.


Quote:Once again, Stammers, you were told point blank that Brady White checked into a majority of those long runs. Why you choose to ignore it now to make your ridiculous points amuses me.

This is the most idiotic of all your points. Not only are you giving credit to White for playing soft toss behind the line of scrimmage, you are now giving him credit for Henderson, Taylor and Pollard going on those crazy runs.

You need help.

My only response is to the bolded and how it almost becomes impossible for this to be the case, without the opposite then being true.

Brady's yd/attempt last year was 8.4. Riley was worse as a Junior at 8.3 and better his 2nd year at 9.0.

So, if Brady is to average 8.4 an attempt based the the bold faced scenarios--here's what has to happen:

We know he has a 63% completion rate--which (at the lowest common comparison) would be going 7 of 11.

So, his 11 attempts (yds/att) will have to get him 92 yards, and he has to do that in 7 completions.

If he literally was making 2, 3, and 4 yard completions he is going to have to get some huge completions to get to that 92 yards.

Let's say in his seven completions, his first four go for 5 yards each. That means he was 20 yards in four completions. He then has to get 72 yards in his last three completions to get to his 8.4 yards per attempt at the 63% completion rate. So that is three passes for 24 yards.

And to the opposite, since Riley essentially performed the same as Brady his Jr. year and Riley was bombing passes downfield--lets say his first three passes went 25, 20, and 19--that means his last four completions will only cover 28 yards--or basically 7 yards per completion.

What it boils down to when comparing Riley and Brady (since their yd/att and completion % are essentially identical) is that every time one says Brady only completes short passes, that means he HAS to complete some bombs to get the yd/att average up.

And everytime someone says Riley was the king of the deep throw, they are completely discounting the idea that every deep throw means he has to complete two or three dinky dunk passes to bring the average back down.
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What it boils down to is that both Brady and Riley have seven completions to get to 92 yards.

No matter how you dole them out, they will look pretty similar. Because they just can't be that different.
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(09-11-2019 11:43 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(09-11-2019 01:24 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 11:23 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  You honestly believe that Riley would be that much more successful without Anthony Miller or Phil Mayhew to throw to?

Since you love pointing out lack of scoring, why couldn't Riley score in the 4th quarter of the Liberty Bowl? Was it because he is a terrible QB or because he didn't have Ant for most of it.

If, as you say, he can complete all those throws that Brady does... why didn't he? Why isn't his completion percentage higher? Why isn't the yards per completion destroying Brady? I mean all opposing defenses have to do is cover 10 yards down the field against Brady, it should be harder for him to complete passes. The opposing defense had to cover 90% of the field against Riley, it should've been a cake walk. His average completion should easily dominate poor lil noodle arm Brady.

Once again, Stammers, you were told point blank that Brady White checked into a majority of those long runs. Why you choose to ignore it now to make your ridiculous points amuses me.

Quote:If, as you say, he can complete all those throws that Brady does... why didn't he? Why isn't his completion percentage higher?

You are honestly stupid.

Quote:Since you love pointing out lack of scoring, why couldn't Riley score in the 4th quarter of the Liberty Bowl? Was it because he is a terrible QB or because he didn't have Ant for most of it.


You are going to pick out one quarter to defend White? Ferguson was without Miller and Henderson btw. Now, not only are you crapping on our offensive line, wide receivers and tight ends, you are now crapping on Ferguson.

His percentage wasn't higher because he never had a game where 9 of his first 10 passes didn't travel past the line of scrimmage. Those 9 passes traveled an aggregate -21 yards from the line of scrimmage, btw. The pass that traveled 30 yards was thrown way late and out of bounds. The original target on that play was 5 yards downfield and wide open, but White was late on that one and had to scramble.

Ferguson never had a game where 2/3 of his passes traveled less than 10 yards from the line of scrimmage. If White tried to play like Ferguson it would be a total disaster. His completion percentage would be under 50%.


Quote:Once again, Stammers, you were told point blank that Brady White checked into a majority of those long runs. Why you choose to ignore it now to make your ridiculous points amuses me.

This is the most idiotic of all your points. Not only are you giving credit to White for playing soft toss behind the line of scrimmage, you are now giving him credit for Henderson, Taylor and Pollard going on those crazy runs.

You need help.

My only response is to the bolded and how it almost becomes impossible for this to be the case, without the opposite then being true.

Brady's yd/attempt last year was 8.4. Riley was worse as a Junior at 8.3 and better his 2nd year at 9.0.

So, if Brady is to average 8.4 an attempt based the the bold faced scenarios--here's what has to happen:

We know he has a 63% completion rate--which (at the lowest common comparison) would be going 7 of 11.

So, his 11 attempts (yds/att) will have to get him 92 yards, and he has to do that in 7 completions.

If he literally was making 2, 3, and 4 yard completions he is going to have to get some huge completions to get to that 92 yards.

Let's say in his seven completions, his first four go for 5 yards each. That means he was 20 yards in four completions. He then has to get 72 yards in his last three completions to get to his 8.4 yards per attempt at the 63% completion rate. So that is three passes for 24 yards.

And to the opposite, since Riley essentially performed the same as Brady his Jr. year and Riley was bombing passes downfield--lets say his first three passes went 25, 20, and 19--that means his last four completions will only cover 28 yards--or basically 7 yards per completion.

What it boils down to when comparing Riley and Brady (since their yd/att and completion % are essentially identical) is that every time one says Brady only completes short passes, that means he HAS to complete some bombs to get the yd/att average up.

And everytime someone says Riley was the king of the deep throw, they are completely discounting the idea that every deep throw means he has to complete two or three dinky dunk passes to bring the average back down.

Do you think Norvell drew up more deep throws for Riley or White? Passes over 20 yards. If so, why do you think he did?
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Most teams in Division 1 would be glad to have Brady.
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(09-11-2019 12:35 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(09-11-2019 11:43 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(09-11-2019 01:24 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 11:23 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  You honestly believe that Riley would be that much more successful without Anthony Miller or Phil Mayhew to throw to?

Since you love pointing out lack of scoring, why couldn't Riley score in the 4th quarter of the Liberty Bowl? Was it because he is a terrible QB or because he didn't have Ant for most of it.

If, as you say, he can complete all those throws that Brady does... why didn't he? Why isn't his completion percentage higher? Why isn't the yards per completion destroying Brady? I mean all opposing defenses have to do is cover 10 yards down the field against Brady, it should be harder for him to complete passes. The opposing defense had to cover 90% of the field against Riley, it should've been a cake walk. His average completion should easily dominate poor lil noodle arm Brady.

Once again, Stammers, you were told point blank that Brady White checked into a majority of those long runs. Why you choose to ignore it now to make your ridiculous points amuses me.

Quote:If, as you say, he can complete all those throws that Brady does... why didn't he? Why isn't his completion percentage higher?

You are honestly stupid.

Quote:Since you love pointing out lack of scoring, why couldn't Riley score in the 4th quarter of the Liberty Bowl? Was it because he is a terrible QB or because he didn't have Ant for most of it.


You are going to pick out one quarter to defend White? Ferguson was without Miller and Henderson btw. Now, not only are you crapping on our offensive line, wide receivers and tight ends, you are now crapping on Ferguson.

His percentage wasn't higher because he never had a game where 9 of his first 10 passes didn't travel past the line of scrimmage. Those 9 passes traveled an aggregate -21 yards from the line of scrimmage, btw. The pass that traveled 30 yards was thrown way late and out of bounds. The original target on that play was 5 yards downfield and wide open, but White was late on that one and had to scramble.

Ferguson never had a game where 2/3 of his passes traveled less than 10 yards from the line of scrimmage. If White tried to play like Ferguson it would be a total disaster. His completion percentage would be under 50%.


Quote:Once again, Stammers, you were told point blank that Brady White checked into a majority of those long runs. Why you choose to ignore it now to make your ridiculous points amuses me.

This is the most idiotic of all your points. Not only are you giving credit to White for playing soft toss behind the line of scrimmage, you are now giving him credit for Henderson, Taylor and Pollard going on those crazy runs.

You need help.

My only response is to the bolded and how it almost becomes impossible for this to be the case, without the opposite then being true.

Brady's yd/attempt last year was 8.4. Riley was worse as a Junior at 8.3 and better his 2nd year at 9.0.

So, if Brady is to average 8.4 an attempt based the the bold faced scenarios--here's what has to happen:

We know he has a 63% completion rate--which (at the lowest common comparison) would be going 7 of 11.

So, his 11 attempts (yds/att) will have to get him 92 yards, and he has to do that in 7 completions.

If he literally was making 2, 3, and 4 yard completions he is going to have to get some huge completions to get to that 92 yards.

Let's say in his seven completions, his first four go for 5 yards each. That means he was 20 yards in four completions. He then has to get 72 yards in his last three completions to get to his 8.4 yards per attempt at the 63% completion rate. So that is three passes for 24 yards.

And to the opposite, since Riley essentially performed the same as Brady his Jr. year and Riley was bombing passes downfield--lets say his first three passes went 25, 20, and 19--that means his last four completions will only cover 28 yards--or basically 7 yards per completion.

What it boils down to when comparing Riley and Brady (since their yd/att and completion % are essentially identical) is that every time one says Brady only completes short passes, that means he HAS to complete some bombs to get the yd/att average up.

And everytime someone says Riley was the king of the deep throw, they are completely discounting the idea that every deep throw means he has to complete two or three dinky dunk passes to bring the average back down.

Do you think Norvell drew up more deep throws for Riley or White? Passes over 20 yards. If so, why do you think he did?

Again, it doesn't jive. If Riley is gunning four 20 yard passes, then that means his last three have to TOTAL for 12 yards.

It's just math.

BUT, Riley did have a gorgeous (-2) yard pass that went for 89 yards. Because, you know, Norvell NEVER used those screen passes back then. (first highlight of the game)



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(09-09-2019 08:08 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 05:20 PM)Old Tiger Wrote:  I have been watching with some interest in the almost constant criticism of Brady White with most posters comparing him poorly to Riley Ferguson. Some posters seem to think that there is some disparity between the receiving group Riley had vs. what Brady has and the only difference here, to me, it that Riley had Anthony Miller, who is probably the best receiver in our history with the possible exception of Isaac Bruce. Throw the ball anywhere near Miller it is caught about 90% of the time.

These stats may have been posted earlier but I did not see a major difference in the two for their 1st years. Remains to be seen in the second year but I expect Brady to be much improved since he is fully recovered this year, in better shape, and, in my opinion, the smarter of the two quarterbacks (currently, working on his second masters). Here the numbers and I vote we stick with him.

Brady White Riley Ferguson
2018 2016
Attempts 392 Attempts 443
Completions 246 Completions 280
Total Yards 3296 Total Yards 3698
% Completed 62.8% % Completed 63.2%
Yards per Completion 8.4 Yards per Completion 8.3
Touchdowns 26 Touchdowns 32
Interceptions 9 Interceptions 10
Quarterback Rating 150.7 Quarterback Rating 152.7


2019 (2 Games) 2017
Attempts 52 Attempts 474
Completions 40 Completions 299
% Completed 76.9% % Completed 63.1%
Yards per Completion 9.8 Yards per Completion 9.0
Touchdowns 2 Touchdowns 38
Interceptions 1 Interceptions 9
Quarterback Rating 168 Quarterback Rating 161.2
I stated this last year but the herd mentality here tends to drown things out.

In 2017 Miller caught 1/3 of riley's passes... replace Miller with coxie and Rileys stats are much lower because not only did Miller catch a ton of passes his presence allowed other players more space. Teams don't fear Coxie

All that said riley is a better qb but not by as much as some on here want to think

5,280 better?
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