(09-11-2019 09:48 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote: (09-11-2019 09:50 AM)quo vadis Wrote: (09-10-2019 10:17 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote: (09-10-2019 02:22 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (09-10-2019 01:52 PM)arkstfan Wrote: Wealth is relative.
Remember Grambling players went on strike because they had to ride bus from northeast Louisiana to Kansas City or St. Louis and the ceiling of the weight room leaked and they had a poorly controlled MRSA outbreak traced to the weight room.
I suspect most SWAC teams would be impressed by the typical Southland or OVC set-up. The typical Southland or OVC would be impressed by the typical SBC/CUSA/AAC setup and so on.
I think that was my point, LOL.
People always talk about the disparities above them. E.g., a Memphis fan will complain about all the advantages Tennessee has being in the SEC. But there are schools below Memphis in the pecking order, and to them Memphis has it made, etc.
This is very true. Memphis is one of the best resourced non-P5 programs over the past 5-7 years. Yet compared to UT, as an institution we receive $1 for every $2 they receive in state funding which is about 30% of the university’s funding. When you factor in the differences in ticket sales and conference distributions, the two are really worlds apart.
From a funding standpoint, Southern is likely as far away from Memphis as Memphis is from
UT.
Yes, SU has an athletic budget of $14 million. Memphis is what, in the $50m range, so way ahead. Tennessee is surely well over $100m.
Memphis basically needs a "university its athletics department can be proud of". Memphis has done a fantastic job upgrading its athletic facilities and resources, and like Houston, Cincy, and UCF basically has the athletic infrastructure and results on the field/court to be regarded as "P5 ready" (USF has the infrastructure, but our results are suffering these days). But Memphis's relatively low academic reputation stands out compared to those schools and is a big demerit, IMO. It's strange, too, because Memphis has also received good corporate funding for its academics as well. It just hasn't translated in to higher academic performance.
Not that it matters this moment, because no P5 is expanding, but you want to be ready because you never know.
Memphis’s academic reputation is improving by leaps and bounds. Ranked for the first time ever by USNWR this year. We are also expected to reach R1 Carnegie classification and in 2022. 4 year graduation rates have doubled in the past year while 6 year graduation rates have increased by 25% in the past 3 years.
Historically we have suffered from weak leadership and a governing board that was dominated by 2 year schools and technical centers. Our own governing board and current president have had tremendous impact in a short period. I think you’ll continue to see our academic profile rise over the next several years.
That would be great for Memphis, because IMO that's why you didn't make the Big 12 finalist list a couple years back.
To me, there are three things a P5 looks for in a possible G5. Note that "brand value" isn't here because there really isn't much difference among candidates on this:
1) Academics
2) Athletics Infrastructure
3) Results on the field and court (football and men's hoops)
Academics is a threshold issue. You don't have to be Harvard, but you can't be too low either. IMO, the threshold is about USNWR 125. Maybe 150 if your results are truly outstanding.
When I think about the AAC "Big 5" - USF, UCF, Memphis, Houston, and Cincy - this is how i rate them on those, and yes, I am all for USF, so bash me for bias if you want:
1) Cincy ... the only school that currently meets all three criteria.
2) UCF/Houston .... meet criteria 2 and 3, approaching criteria 1.
4) USF ................ meets criteria 1 and 2, lags significantly on 3.
5) Memphis ......... meets criteria 2 and 3, lags significantly on 1.
The reason I put USF ahead of Memphis is i think our problem is a quicker fix. It's easier to turn a 6-6 football team in to a 9-3 one than it is to rise in the academic rankings.
But if Memphis can move in to that 125-150 academics range, then you'd be right there with Cincy.