Coach Sanders throws team under the bus with his post game comments. Some of them made no sense IMO. Maybe he needs to look in the mirror and find an agressive offensive game plan instead of that mess we saw last night.

I do hope to see marked improvement in next week's game. It seems the coaches can have a large impact if they put a stop to the dumb penalties. Surely our long kicking will not be that bad again. The question remains if Cade or Chance is coming back. If not, I think we may be more snaps by Malik. Any type of repeat performance next week will be an easy win by Austin Peay. We just have to get more consistent offensively.

(09-15-2019 12:24 PM)Buc76 Wrote:  Comments about covering stadium, coming up with solutions to Mother Nature, relaxing safety standards are ridiculous. Just ask the people that were effected by lightning at the golf tournament a few weeks ago.

As for hassle, bull, I'll sacrifice a few minutes for safety measures over risk any day of the week.

I guarantee you that if the people making these statements got injured at the game, they would first in line to sue ETSU.

76 you’re sounding a bit grumpy today; is that because you were up past 1 this morning? It wasn’t a “few minutes”; it was a few extra hours past the time the game would/should have ended!

I don’t advocate compromising safety but something like 1) a game that goes 4 hrs past start time will be a) voided, b) awarded to team with most pts. or 2) made up at a later date, etc.

I definitely think Malik should get more snaps.

ETSU had these unsettling moments:

https://www.johnsoncitypress.com/Footbal...am&lp=1&p=

(09-15-2019 05:40 PM)Bucc18 Wrote:  ETSU had these unsettling moments:

https://www.johnsoncitypress.com/Footbal...am&lp=1&p=

Pretty much shows what Bucs have to work on and improve. We have to hope the coaches will take care of those mistakes. If not, then opposing teams will be licking their chops to play us. The scout on Trey has to be pretty simple right now.

A lot of comments on the QB. How could a different QB change the following:

Dropped passes, OL getting mauled, kickoffs going out of bounds several times, shanked punts, multiple stupid penalties ( one on Sanders ), very little pressure by what most consider the best two defensive ends, experienced linebackers leaving the RB's and TE wide open and conservative, predictable play calling by Sanders.

The DB'S were the only unit that came to play. There were a couple of others, two LB, a couple of DL, two RB'S and the QB that put out a winning effort.

The defense played well enough to win and could of played better but had to play way to many plays and with a short field because of no offense and extremely poor kicking game. They were worn out.

The offense was woeful from the first series and it wasn't became of poor QB play.

This team was not prepared, not ready to play and that's on the Coaches.

(09-15-2019 06:40 PM)Buc76 Wrote:  A lot of comments on the QB. How could a different QB change the following:

Dropped passes, OL getting mauled, kickoffs going out of bounds several times, shanked punts, multiple stupid penalties ( one on Sanders ), very little pressure by what most consider the best two defensive ends, experienced linebackers leaving the RB's and TE wide open and conservative, predictable play calling by Sanders.

The DB'S were the only unit that came to play. There were a couple of others, two LB, a couple of DL, two RB'S and the QB that put out a winning effort.

The defense played well enough to win and could of played better but had to play way to many plays and with a short field because of no offense and extremely poor kicking game. They were worn out.

The offense was woeful from the first series and it wasn't became of poor QB play.

This team was not prepared, not ready to play and that's on the Coaches.

Fair points. Whether the QB was limited by coaching or by talent is a good question. VMIs quarterback made play after play against our defense and had the ability to elude our defense and run free. Was their coach better than ours or was their quarterback just better than ours? Good questions.

I'm not sure this team has developed any leadership. Just an observation from watching the game down front and center. Didn't see it on the sidelines or on the field like we did last year.

I know everyone appears to want to dice this team up, and I'm taking a bit of a different take. One flaw in college football fans (we have a lot, but I'll mention this one) is that we try to ascribe characteristics of a team based on one game. One game doesn't define who you are.

This game did not start well for the ETSU offense. The o-line struggled but in their defense, and someone said this earlier, why the OC wasn't calling screens & drag pass plays to combat the blitz is beyond me too. This is how you counter a blitzing defense. All that being said, we hit the long pass to Coffee after VMI had missed the FG, and we had momentum and a 7-0 lead. Then, another stadium evacuation.

After the second evacuation, I think it would get especially tough, but tougher on ETSU than VMI. The 1st quarter didn't end until after 11pm, and the whole game didn't end until 1:15AM. Can you imagine coming back out to your home stadium that's almost completely empty? Also, getting yourself ready to play, taking the field, coming off the field, and then taking it again. VMI smelled blood, and rightly so. This game had turned into some kind of weird neutral field. I think the stop-start-stop-start hurt the ETSU defense more than anyone.

The reason this affected ETSU worse than VMI is that ETSU has a young team. I think the weather snafus affected us more than it affected a more experienced team in VMI. Ultimately, this game could carry over and hurt us the rest of the year, or we may get to the end of the season and say "I can't believe we lost to VMI - must have been the weather."

(09-16-2019 09:30 AM)GoBucsGo Wrote:  I know everyone appears to want to dice this team up, and I'm taking a bit of a different take. One flaw in college football fans (we have a lot, but I'll mention this one) is that we try to ascribe characteristics of a team based on one game. One game doesn't define who you are.

This game did not start well for the ETSU offense. The o-line struggled but in their defense, and someone said this earlier, why the OC wasn't calling screens & drag pass plays to combat the blitz is beyond me too. This is how you counter a blitzing defense. All that being said, we hit the long pass to Coffee after VMI had missed the FG, and we had momentum and a 7-0 lead. Then, another stadium evacuation.

After the second evacuation, I think it would get especially tough, but tougher on ETSU than VMI. The 1st quarter didn't end until after 11pm, and the whole game didn't end until 1:15AM. Can you imagine coming back out to your home stadium that's almost completely empty? Also, getting yourself ready to play, taking the field, coming off the field, and then taking it again. VMI smelled blood, and rightly so. This game had turned into some kind of weird neutral field. I think the stop-start-stop-start hurt the ETSU defense more than anyone.

The reason this affected ETSU worse than VMI is that ETSU has a young team. I think the weather snafus affected us more than it affected a more experienced team in VMI. Ultimately, this game could carry over and hurt us the rest of the year, or we may get to the end of the season and say "I can't believe we lost to VMI - must have been the weather."

Did military school discipline as well pay off for VMI in such a strange game? (Did discipline pay off in Citadel’s take down of Ga Tech?) If game had of been called at second delay and picked back up on Sunday afternoon or evening, would that have had any influence on the outcome?

https://twitter.com/chancethrasher/statu...8029315074

Looks like he is ready to return.

(09-16-2019 09:46 AM)Buc66 Wrote:  Did military school discipline as well pay off for VMI in such a strange game? (Did discipline pay off in Citadel’s take down of Ga Tech?) If game had of been called at second delay and picked back up on Sunday afternoon or evening, would that have had any influence on the outcome?

I don't know about the El Cid game, but I *do* think it helped VMI with the weather and the off-and-on way the game had to be played. In fact, I tend to think that was the deciding factor ultimately, as it affected everything else.

(09-16-2019 09:30 AM)GoBucsGo Wrote:  I know everyone appears to want to dice this team up, and I'm taking a bit of a different take. One flaw in college football fans (we have a lot, but I'll mention this one) is that we try to ascribe characteristics of a team based on one game. One game doesn't define who you are.

This game did not start well for the ETSU offense. The o-line struggled but in their defense, and someone said this earlier, why the OC wasn't calling screens & drag pass plays to combat the blitz is beyond me too. This is how you counter a blitzing defense. All that being said, we hit the long pass to Coffee after VMI had missed the FG, and we had momentum and a 7-0 lead. Then, another stadium evacuation.

After the second evacuation, I think it would get especially tough, but tougher on ETSU than VMI. The 1st quarter didn't end until after 11pm, and the whole game didn't end until 1:15AM. Can you imagine coming back out to your home stadium that's almost completely empty? Also, getting yourself ready to play, taking the field, coming off the field, and then taking it again. VMI smelled blood, and rightly so. This game had turned into some kind of weird neutral field. I think the stop-start-stop-start hurt the ETSU defense more than anyone.

The reason this affected ETSU worse than VMI is that ETSU has a young team. I think the weather snafus affected us more than it affected a more experienced team in VMI. Ultimately, this game could carry over and hurt us the rest of the year, or we may get to the end of the season and say "I can't believe we lost to VMI - must have been the weather."

Very well said. A lot of us fans get very emotional after such a game but this sums it up well. I cannot wait to hear the press conference today and the coaches show Wednesday night. Both will be interesting!

(09-16-2019 09:30 AM)GoBucsGo Wrote:  I know everyone appears to want to dice this team up, and I'm taking a bit of a different take. One flaw in college football fans (we have a lot, but I'll mention this one) is that we try to ascribe characteristics of a team based on one game. One game doesn't define who you are.

This game did not start well for the ETSU offense. The o-line struggled but in their defense, and someone said this earlier, why the OC wasn't calling screens & drag pass plays to combat the blitz is beyond me too. This is how you counter a blitzing defense. All that being said, we hit the long pass to Coffee after VMI had missed the FG, and we had momentum and a 7-0 lead. Then, another stadium evacuation.

After the second evacuation, I think it would get especially tough, but tougher on ETSU than VMI. The 1st quarter didn't end until after 11pm, and the whole game didn't end until 1:15AM. Can you imagine coming back out to your home stadium that's almost completely empty? Also, getting yourself ready to play, taking the field, coming off the field, and then taking it again. VMI smelled blood, and rightly so. This game had turned into some kind of weird neutral field. I think the stop-start-stop-start hurt the ETSU defense more than anyone.

The reason this affected ETSU worse than VMI is that ETSU has a young team. I think the weather snafus affected us more than it affected a more experienced team in VMI. Ultimately, this game could carry over and hurt us the rest of the year, or we may get to the end of the season and say "I can't believe we lost to VMI - must have been the weather."

I agree with you except is isn't one game, it is 3 consecutive games of lack luster performance. Things can turn around of course... and I hope they do!

The thing that bothers me and will likely come back to bite us big time is that we lost to a VMI team that hadn’t beaten a D1 team in 3 years. There’s little to no room for error now in conference. You only get 2 cupcakes in the SoCon and we let the first one walk out with a win.

(09-16-2019 02:30 PM)MTBuc Wrote:  The thing that bothers me and will likely come back to bite us big time is that we lost to a VMI team that hadn’t beaten a D1 team in 3 years. There’s little to no room for error now in conference. You only get 2 cupcakes in the SoCon and we let the first one walk out with a win.

But, do ya think VMI will surprise some others this year as well?

(09-16-2019 03:16 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(09-16-2019 02:30 PM)MTBuc Wrote:  The thing that bothers me and will likely come back to bite us big time is that we lost to a VMI team that hadn’t beaten a D1 team in 3 years. There’s little to no room for error now in conference. You only get 2 cupcakes in the SoCon and we let the first one walk out with a win.

But, do ya think VMI will surprise some others this year as well?

I think they’ll win maybe 2 more games.

(09-16-2019 03:54 PM)MTBuc Wrote:  

(09-16-2019 03:16 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(09-16-2019 02:30 PM)MTBuc Wrote:  The thing that bothers me and will likely come back to bite us big time is that we lost to a VMI team that hadn’t beaten a D1 team in 3 years. There’s little to no room for error now in conference. You only get 2 cupcakes in the SoCon and we let the first one walk out with a win.

But, do ya think VMI will surprise some others this year as well?

I think they’ll win maybe 2 more games.

I am hoping that they are greatly improved this year. But we do not know yet as they blew out a D2 team, lost to an FBS team and beat us in a haphazard game that I do not yet fully comprehend. Preseason notes had VMI as being more experienced and improved. I just hope we improve by this Saturday.

(09-16-2019 02:30 PM)MTBuc Wrote:  The thing that bothers me and will likely come back to bite us big time is that we lost to a VMI team that hadn’t beaten a D1 team in 3 years. There’s little to no room for error now in conference. You only get 2 cupcakes in the SoCon and we let the first one walk out with a win.

Yep. You lose to VMI and you probably aren’t going to have a good season