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There are still selling points to come to Southern Miss. If coaches are using the above, they should be let go.
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(09-12-2019 09:13 AM)Up2stuff Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 09:06 AM)TTT Wrote:  Here's the selling pitch for USM now:

Coach: hey come play for us
Kid: ok cool, I'll think about it. I know USM has a lot of history, yall are in the same conference with Houston, Central Florida, Memphis, and South Florida right?
Coach: no, we're in a conference with Charlotte, Old Dominion, and Rice.
Kid: uh....

And he stops with 3 because he's probably a lot like the fans and can't remember the rest. 04-cheers

EXACTLY, I'd venture to say that most of our fans couldn't even name all our conference mates. Realignment has really screwed us over. We benefited in the past from TV money not completely dominating college football, but it absolutely does today, and the MARKET has made sure the cream has risen to the top (no pun intended). Since the mid 00's...USM football has been declining. We only have ONE CUSA CHAMPIONSHIP in the last 16 years. And our athletic revenue is dead last in the worst conference. Think about that. It's no wonder we can't recruit kids like we used to. This shouldn't come as a shock to anyone. The only thing we can do at this point is dominate this terrible conference we're in and drag ourselves back up to being a respectful fb program because right now we're not. Lot of historical success? Absolutely. But this is 2019 and recruits could give 2 sharts that we shut out a 3-8 Alabama team in 2000 or that we beat an undefeated Houston team in 2011. They. don't. care. We've gotta find some more coat-tails to ride. They care about the NOW. And our "NOW" consists of opponents they didn't even know existed.
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I would just love to beat the ever living chit outa these newbies in this dreadful conference. The lack of any respect for one of only maybe three recognized teams in this chithole conference is making me angry. I like Hop. He’s not the worst coach we could be stuck with, but if he doesn’t figure out how to kick the ODUs, Charlottes, UTSAs etc of CUSA he will lose my support.
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(09-12-2019 09:41 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  I would just love to beat the ever living chit outa these newbies in this dreadful conference. The lack of any respect for one of only maybe three recognized teams in this chithole conference is making me angry. I like Hop. He’s not the worst coach we could be stuck with, but if he doesn’t figure out how to kick the ODUs, Charlottes, UTSAs etc of CUSA he will lose my support.

How we don't have a minimum of 1 FB championship in this conference lineup is baffling. The fans of these startup programs don't realize how important it is for the conference for programs like USM and Marshall to do very well, every season. USM and Marshall have the history to elevate CUSA's profile faster than any of the other schools.

But, instead they want USM to fail. Honestly, I bet most of their admins felt being in a conference with USM was a big positive when considering the move from the SBC.

Anyway, McClain needs to make it his mission to dominate this conference.
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none of this will matter in a handful of years once the final phase of realignment occurs....

have fun with all the bs...
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(09-12-2019 11:47 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  none of this will matter in a handful of years once the final phase of realignment occurs....

have fun with all the bs...

You’re right about that. Pigs do like to waller in chit though......
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The next re alignment will be a mass exodus by the the Haves. The California Bill allowing players to get paid for endorsements etc. broke the camels back. When the NCAA let a TV sports station take over the post season in the most lucrative sport in America the writing was on the wall. They don't need the NCAA. Schools like USM will still be under the NCAAs rule because we can't afford to leave. The schools have more power than the NCAA.
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(09-12-2019 01:57 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  The next re alignment will be a mass exodus by the the Haves. The California Bill allowing players to get paid for endorsements etc. broke the camels back. When the NCAA let a TV sports station take over the post season in the most lucrative sport in America the writing was on the wall. They don't need the NCAA. Schools like USM will still be under the NCAAs rule because we can't afford to leave. The schools have more power than the NCAA.

it was nothing but a matter of time....
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(09-12-2019 11:47 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  None of this will matter in a handful of years.

It does now?
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(09-12-2019 02:22 PM)Black Diamond Reb Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 11:47 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  None of this will matter in a handful of years.

It does now?

The list of those left holding their jocks when the ‘haves’ leave will shock some. Big debt will be the legacy of their departure.....
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(09-12-2019 11:40 AM)va-eagle Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 09:41 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  I would just love to beat the ever living chit outa these newbies in this dreadful conference. The lack of any respect for one of only maybe three recognized teams in this chithole conference is making me angry. I like Hop. He’s not the worst coach we could be stuck with, but if he doesn’t figure out how to kick the ODUs, Charlottes, UTSAs etc of CUSA he will lose my support.

How we don't have a minimum of 1 FB championship in this conference lineup is baffling. The fans of these startup programs don't realize how important it is for the conference for programs like USM and Marshall to do very well, every season. USM and Marshall have the history to elevate CUSA's profile faster than any of the other schools.

But, instead they want USM to fail. Honestly, I bet most of their admins felt being in a conference with USM was a big positive when considering the move from the SBC.

Anyway, McClain needs to make it his mission to dominate this conference.

I mean, those startups aren't just going to hand the game to us because of our name. We have to earn it. The pathetic part of it all is that these startups consistently beat us and win championships while we sit at home or in New Orleans. And then we wonder why fans aren't interested.
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(09-12-2019 02:35 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 02:22 PM)Black Diamond Reb Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 11:47 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  None of this will matter in a handful of years.

It does now?

The list of those left holding their jocks when the ‘haves’ leave will shock some. Big debt will be the legacy of their departure.....

I'm almost certain one in the north will get left out....most likely both....

tears and laughter shed with irony that would be...

if one doesn't see the nfl jr. league forming with the ncaa getting da finga, you're living in a cave....
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(09-12-2019 02:47 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 02:35 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 02:22 PM)Black Diamond Reb Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 11:47 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  None of this will matter in a handful of years.

It does now?

The list of those left holding their jocks when the ‘haves’ leave will shock some. Big debt will be the legacy of their departure.....

I'm almost certain one in the north will get left out....most likely both....

tears and laughter shed with irony that would be...

if one doesn't see the nfl jr. league forming with the ncaa getting da finga, you're living in a cave....
This. The schools up North don't have what they have because of what they have done, but because of whom with they are affiliated. And those folks know it and don't want to share anymore. Think about it. How much sense does it make for a few schools to dominate a conference and bring truck loads of money into the conference for it to be shared equally to all of the members? NONE. All it does is help lift those other schools up to compete with the big boys in the conference. The 14-0 national champion gets the same check as the 2-10 team.01-wingedeagle
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(09-12-2019 11:47 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  none of this will matter in a handful of years once the final phase of realignment occurs....

have fun with all the bs...

Do you think this is just wishful thinking by some of us that already fill left out, or is there a fire causing this smoke? It's just hard for me to imagine a world where the SEC doesn't exist as is + some. I do believe there will be additional realignment, but I would guess it would just be the demise of the big 12 with some of those schools joining the other four (along with Notre Dame) to form 4 conferences that only play each other and then have a playoff. Lawsuits would fly if anyone already in got booted, unless schools started leaving current conferences and then reformed. I find that hard to imagine. But.... I have no real clue, just my gut talking.
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(09-12-2019 04:11 PM)Up2stuff Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 11:47 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  none of this will matter in a handful of years once the final phase of realignment occurs....

have fun with all the bs...

Do you think this is just wishful thinking by some of us that already fill left out, or is there a fire causing this smoke? It's just hard for me to imagine a world where the SEC doesn't exist as is + some. I do believe there will be additional realignment, but I would guess it would just be the demise of the big 12 with some of those schools joining the other four (along with Notre Dame) to form 4 conferences that only play each other and then have a playoff. Lawsuits would fly if anyone already in got booted, unless schools started leaving current conferences and then reformed. I find that hard to imagine. But.... I have no real clue, just my gut talking.

when I started posting in '11, it was due to the initial phase of realignment....

everything I posted then is consistent with what I post today...

it's all about the benji....it's that simple...

I'll be a southern miss fan for life....but it's going to break out into the flagship schools that carry weight on the screen vs. the rest...there's simply too much money to be made....congress and the courts will easily get involved...it's going to be a cluster-bang...

my number is somewhere in the 48 range....

it's going to be interesting how the schools from the north absorb the coming drubbing....

maybe ol' pissy makes the cut....no way moo-moo does...
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(09-12-2019 04:11 PM)Up2stuff Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 11:47 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  none of this will matter in a handful of years once the final phase of realignment occurs....

have fun with all the bs...

Do you think this is just wishful thinking by some of us that already fill left out, or is there a fire causing this smoke? It's just hard for me to imagine a world where the SEC doesn't exist as is + some. I do believe there will be additional realignment, but I would guess it would just be the demise of the big 12 with some of those schools joining the other four (along with Notre Dame) to form 4 conferences that only play each other and then have a playoff. Lawsuits would fly if anyone already in got booted, unless schools started leaving current conferences and then reformed. I find that hard to imagine. But.... I have no real clue, just my gut talking.
$$$$$ changes everything. When the players start getting paid for their likeness, it is over. The NFL or USFL(yes I said USFL as they have no agreement with the NCAA) may make a business decision to take over and form a minor league and chose whomever they want. During my lifetime, Olympic athletes went from being amateurs to professionals literally overnight. How long were THEY amateurs. Who would have ever thought gymnasts and swimmers would become millionaires while competing in the Olympics instead of waiting until afterward. So it is very likely, not possible.
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(09-12-2019 04:21 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 04:11 PM)Up2stuff Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 11:47 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  none of this will matter in a handful of years once the final phase of realignment occurs....

have fun with all the bs...

Do you think this is just wishful thinking by some of us that already fill left out, or is there a fire causing this smoke? It's just hard for me to imagine a world where the SEC doesn't exist as is + some. I do believe there will be additional realignment, but I would guess it would just be the demise of the big 12 with some of those schools joining the other four (along with Notre Dame) to form 4 conferences that only play each other and then have a playoff. Lawsuits would fly if anyone already in got booted, unless schools started leaving current conferences and then reformed. I find that hard to imagine. But.... I have no real clue, just my gut talking.
$$$$$ changes everything. When the players start getting paid for their likeness, it is over. The NFL or USFL(yes I said USFL as they have no agreement with the NCAA) may make a business decision to take over and form a minor league and chose whomever they want. During my lifetime, Olympic athletes went from being amateurs to professionals literally overnight. How long were THEY amateurs. Who would have ever thought gymnasts and swimmers would become millionaires while competing in the Olympics instead of waiting until afterward. So it is very likely, not possible.

all this bs you're getting ready to hear about 'how relevant the ncaa is' is going to be a double finger-bang(k) in every sense of orifice once this plays out....
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(09-12-2019 04:24 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 04:21 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 04:11 PM)Up2stuff Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 11:47 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  none of this will matter in a handful of years once the final phase of realignment occurs....

have fun with all the bs...

Do you think this is just wishful thinking by some of us that already fill left out, or is there a fire causing this smoke? It's just hard for me to imagine a world where the SEC doesn't exist as is + some. I do believe there will be additional realignment, but I would guess it would just be the demise of the big 12 with some of those schools joining the other four (along with Notre Dame) to form 4 conferences that only play each other and then have a playoff. Lawsuits would fly if anyone already in got booted, unless schools started leaving current conferences and then reformed. I find that hard to imagine. But.... I have no real clue, just my gut talking.
$$$$$ changes everything. When the players start getting paid for their likeness, it is over. The NFL or USFL(yes I said USFL as they have no agreement with the NCAA) may make a business decision to take over and form a minor league and chose whomever they want. During my lifetime, Olympic athletes went from being amateurs to professionals literally overnight. How long were THEY amateurs. Who would have ever thought gymnasts and swimmers would become millionaires while competing in the Olympics instead of waiting until afterward. So it is very likely, not possible.

all this bs you're getting ready to hear about 'how relevant the ncaa is' is going to be a double finger-bang(k) in every sense of orifice once this plays out....

The NCAA was proven to be a paper tiger AGAIN with the Moo U penalties. They basically got caught doing what we were doing. They demolish us. They didn't even slap their hand. Hell, we don't even really know what their punishment was. Also, what ever happened to Louisville and Syracuse basketball?
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(09-12-2019 04:33 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 04:24 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 04:21 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 04:11 PM)Up2stuff Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 11:47 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  none of this will matter in a handful of years once the final phase of realignment occurs....

have fun with all the bs...

Do you think this is just wishful thinking by some of us that already fill left out, or is there a fire causing this smoke? It's just hard for me to imagine a world where the SEC doesn't exist as is + some. I do believe there will be additional realignment, but I would guess it would just be the demise of the big 12 with some of those schools joining the other four (along with Notre Dame) to form 4 conferences that only play each other and then have a playoff. Lawsuits would fly if anyone already in got booted, unless schools started leaving current conferences and then reformed. I find that hard to imagine. But.... I have no real clue, just my gut talking.
$$$$$ changes everything. When the players start getting paid for their likeness, it is over. The NFL or USFL(yes I said USFL as they have no agreement with the NCAA) may make a business decision to take over and form a minor league and chose whomever they want. During my lifetime, Olympic athletes went from being amateurs to professionals literally overnight. How long were THEY amateurs. Who would have ever thought gymnasts and swimmers would become millionaires while competing in the Olympics instead of waiting until afterward. So it is very likely, not possible.

all this bs you're getting ready to hear about 'how relevant the ncaa is' is going to be a double finger-bang(k) in every sense of orifice once this plays out....

The NCAA was proven to be a paper tiger AGAIN with the Moo U penalties. They basically got caught doing what we were doing. They demolish us. They didn't even slap their hand. Hell, we don't even really know what their punishment was. Also, what ever happened to Louisville and Syracuse basketball?

What ever happened to NCarolina Basketball?
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(09-12-2019 06:13 PM)Black and Gold Battle Umbrella Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 04:33 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 04:24 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 04:21 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 04:11 PM)Up2stuff Wrote:  Do you think this is just wishful thinking by some of us that already fill left out, or is there a fire causing this smoke? It's just hard for me to imagine a world where the SEC doesn't exist as is + some. I do believe there will be additional realignment, but I would guess it would just be the demise of the big 12 with some of those schools joining the other four (along with Notre Dame) to form 4 conferences that only play each other and then have a playoff. Lawsuits would fly if anyone already in got booted, unless schools started leaving current conferences and then reformed. I find that hard to imagine. But.... I have no real clue, just my gut talking.
$$$$$ changes everything. When the players start getting paid for their likeness, it is over. The NFL or USFL(yes I said USFL as they have no agreement with the NCAA) may make a business decision to take over and form a minor league and chose whomever they want. During my lifetime, Olympic athletes went from being amateurs to professionals literally overnight. How long were THEY amateurs. Who would have ever thought gymnasts and swimmers would become millionaires while competing in the Olympics instead of waiting until afterward. So it is very likely, not possible.

all this bs you're getting ready to hear about 'how relevant the ncaa is' is going to be a double finger-bang(k) in every sense of orifice once this plays out....

The NCAA was proven to be a paper tiger AGAIN with the Moo U penalties. They basically got caught doing what we were doing. They demolish us. They didn't even slap their hand. Hell, we don't even really know what their punishment was. Also, what ever happened to Louisville and Syracuse basketball?

What ever happened to NCarolina Basketball?

XACLY!

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