(09-15-2019 08:59 PM)Tiger87 Wrote: The Access slot pays out about $4M. Per school. Cotton Bowl would be much bigger than a game at Tuscaloosa.
Absolutely!! You nailed it!
A creditable loss to Bama won't keep the AAC champ out of the NY6 bowl.
Not only that, you can guarantee the Mill from visiting the Alabammer hammer. So far, we haven't collected that $4MM check while NOT playing the Tide.
The goal is to win the conference and claim the Access Slot. A game at Bama puts that goal at risk. It's just not worth it to me, but if the admin/coaches want to do it, fine. They know the real numbers - not you and me.
Look at Houston this year. Played a solid OOC, but lost both games. Now they have a massive uphill battle for the Access Bowl slot. Even if they win every game from here on out, they would need A LOT of help to make that Bowl.
(09-16-2019 03:44 PM)tigernole79 Wrote: Look at Houston this year. Played a solid OOC, but lost both games. Now they have a massive uphill battle for the Access Bowl slot. Even if they win every game from here on out, they would need A LOT of help to make that Bowl.
(09-08-2019 07:44 AM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote: Saban is game!
Let's get this done!
It was actually a shot at us, and our G5 status. Does not indicate a willingness to consider a series with us - actually the contrary.
SABAN is a RIOT!!!!! WE should be on that schedule EVERY year....regardless of the L's that we would receive....Just as long as the boys have a bye week afterwards to lick their wounds.....WE B AIGHT.....
(09-16-2019 12:42 PM)uskjtc02 Wrote: Absolutely!! You nailed it!
A creditable loss to Bama won't keep the AAC champ out of the NY6 bowl.
Not only that, you can guarantee the Mill from visiting the Alabammer hammer. So far, we haven't collected that $4MM check while NOT playing the Tide.
The goal is to win the conference and claim the Access Slot. A game at Bama puts that goal at risk. It's just not worth it to me, but if the admin/coaches want to do it, fine. They know the real numbers - not you and me.
Agree. Not a good game for us.
the Coaches should have LESS input for that decision than the fans. Their goal is NOT an access slot or for our program to be great 5 years from now, their goal (including Norvell) is to get their dream job.
(09-16-2019 01:47 PM)Atlanta Wrote: A creditable loss to Bama won't keep the AAC champ out of the NY6 bowl.
Not only that, you can guarantee the Mill from visiting the Alabammer hammer. So far, we haven't collected that $4MM check while NOT playing the Tide.
The goal is to win the conference and claim the Access Slot. A game at Bama puts that goal at risk. It's just not worth it to me, but if the admin/coaches want to do it, fine. They know the real numbers - not you and me.
Agree. Not a good game for us.
the Coaches should have LESS input for that decision than the fans. Their goal is NOT an access slot or for our program to be great 5 years from now, their goal (including Norvell) is to get their dream job.
Oversimplification. And cynical. They, well Norvell at least, care about the program. And the kids. They establish sincere team goals each year.
And, a season worthy of the Access Slot is how they get their dream job. Besides, fans can't agree on the input (see this thread).
(This post was last modified: 09-16-2019 09:16 PM by Tiger87.)
(09-16-2019 03:44 PM)tigernole79 Wrote: Look at Houston this year. Played a solid OOC, but lost both games. Now they have a massive uphill battle for the Access Bowl slot. Even if they win every game from here on out, they would need A LOT of help to make that Bowl.
Hold up, folks. Let's not confuse losing to Oklahoma and Arizona or whoever to losing to Alabama on their home field.
(09-16-2019 03:44 PM)tigernole79 Wrote: Look at Houston this year. Played a solid OOC, but lost both games. Now they have a massive uphill battle for the Access Bowl slot. Even if they win every game from here on out, they would need A LOT of help to make that Bowl.
Hold up, folks. Let's not confuse losing to Oklahoma and Arizona or whoever to losing to Alabama on their home field.
Yes, losing to OK is EQUAL to losing to Bama, unless you think losing to the #4 team is radically different than losing to the #2 team?!! You need to quit watching ESPN/SEC talk shows if you think losing to Bama is somehow in a different world than any other Top 10 team.
Washington State is a ranked team as well. Although not really related for the previous point.
I commend them for over reaching on their schedule, much like 2016. They beat two Top 5 teams... and still ended up 4th in the AAC West. Makes our job much easier.
(09-16-2019 03:44 PM)tigernole79 Wrote: Look at Houston this year. Played a solid OOC, but lost both games. Now they have a massive uphill battle for the Access Bowl slot. Even if they win every game from here on out, they would need A LOT of help to make that Bowl.
Hold up, folks. Let's not confuse losing to Oklahoma and Arizona or whoever to losing to Alabama on their home field.
Yes, losing to OK is EQUAL to losing to Bama, unless you think losing to the #4 team is radically different than losing to the #2 team?!! You need to quit watching ESPN/SEC talk shows if you think losing to Bama is somehow in a different world than any other Top 10 team.
Washington State is a ranked team as well. Although not really related for the previous point.
I commend them for over reaching on their schedule, much like 2016. They beat two Top 5 teams... and still ended up 4th in the AAC West. Makes our job much easier.
Well, the difference is, Alabama is ALWAYS .... ALWAYS #1 or #2 (or at least top5). Oklahoma not so much. And it doesn't matter if I watch ESPN/SEC talk shows. What matters is the perception of the poll voters, you know it's true. And we are talking about scheduling games 5 to 8 years out.
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(09-16-2019 02:06 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote: Not only that, you can guarantee the Mill from visiting the Alabammer hammer. So far, we haven't collected that $4MM check while NOT playing the Tide.
The goal is to win the conference and claim the Access Slot. A game at Bama puts that goal at risk. It's just not worth it to me, but if the admin/coaches want to do it, fine. They know the real numbers - not you and me.
Agree. Not a good game for us.
the Coaches should have LESS input for that decision than the fans. Their goal is NOT an access slot or for our program to be great 5 years from now, their goal (including Norvell) is to get their dream job.
Oversimplification. And cynical. They, well Norvell at least, care about the program. And the kids. They establish sincere team goals each year.
And, a season worthy of the Access Slot is how they get their dream job. Besides, fans can't agree on the input (see this thread).
yea, but these schedules are now made so far in advance that no one knows who the coach will be. It's different than basketball. Heck, we have a game schedule against Arkansas where the freshmen on the field that day are in 4th grade right now.
(This post was last modified: 09-17-2019 08:50 AM by fsquid.)
(09-17-2019 09:40 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: Does anyone have a theory why football games are scheduled so far in advance? I have never heard a legit explanation.
It is because other football teams schedule far in advance....
(09-16-2019 03:44 PM)tigernole79 Wrote: Look at Houston this year. Played a solid OOC, but lost both games. Now they have a massive uphill battle for the Access Bowl slot. Even if they win every game from here on out, they would need A LOT of help to make that Bowl.
Hold up, folks. Let's not confuse losing to Oklahoma and Arizona or whoever to losing to Alabama on their home field.
(09-16-2019 03:44 PM)tigernole79 Wrote: Look at Houston this year. Played a solid OOC, but lost both games. Now they have a massive uphill battle for the Access Bowl slot. Even if they win every game from here on out, they would need A LOT of help to make that Bowl.
Hold up, folks. Let's not confuse losing to Oklahoma and Arizona or whoever to losing to Alabama on their home field.
Losing is losing.
Yeah, it's is still a mark in the loss column.
The only goal for getting an Access Bowl spot is 1) being the conference champ and 2) being the highest rated in the CFP poll among G5 school.
Since most folks in the CFP don't give an ish about diving deep into G5 schedules, they usually just look at w/l records.
If BSU is 13-0 and Memphis is 12-1 (with a loss at Bama) BSU will more likely than not get the nod.
The only thing that comes into play that can affect that is if a G5 school is ranked in the preseason. If a G5 school is top 15 or so and has a good showing at a top 5 P5 team, the G5 school might remain in the top 25 even after a loss. Assuming the other G5 schools are unranked and all other stuff equal, the ranked team with the loss can stay ahead of the rest by continuing to match wins the rest of the way out.
(09-16-2019 01:47 PM)Atlanta Wrote: A creditable loss to Bama won't keep the AAC champ out of the NY6 bowl.
Not only that, you can guarantee the Mill from visiting the Alabammer hammer. So far, we haven't collected that $4MM check while NOT playing the Tide.
The goal is to win the conference and claim the Access Slot. A game at Bama puts that goal at risk. It's just not worth it to me, but if the admin/coaches want to do it, fine. They know the real numbers - not you and me.
Agree. Not a good game for us.
the Coaches should have LESS input for that decision than the fans. Their goal is NOT an access slot or for our program to be great 5 years from now, their goal (including Norvell) is to get their dream job.
(09-16-2019 02:06 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote: Not only that, you can guarantee the Mill from visiting the Alabammer hammer. So far, we haven't collected that $4MM check while NOT playing the Tide.
The goal is to win the conference and claim the Access Slot. A game at Bama puts that goal at risk. It's just not worth it to me, but if the admin/coaches want to do it, fine. They know the real numbers - not you and me.
Agree. Not a good game for us.
the Coaches should have LESS input for that decision than the fans. Their goal is NOT an access slot or for our program to be great 5 years from now, their goal (including Norvell) is to get their dream job.
Good thing our administration doesn't share that level of thought.
It's funny that some people still refuse to admit that the current level of operations is having quite a bit of success. Nah, we should listen to the fans because they are smarter.
(09-16-2019 02:35 PM)Tiger87 Wrote: The goal is to win the conference and claim the Access Slot. A game at Bama puts that goal at risk. It's just not worth it to me, but if the admin/coaches want to do it, fine. They know the real numbers - not you and me.
Agree. Not a good game for us.
the Coaches should have LESS input for that decision than the fans. Their goal is NOT an access slot or for our program to be great 5 years from now, their goal (including Norvell) is to get their dream job.
Good thing our administration doesn't share that level of thought.
It's funny that some people still refuse to admit that the current level of operations is having quite a bit of success. Nah, we should listen to the fans because they are smarter.
If they are smarter than the fans, why is the liberty bowl not filled up? Why are we not ranked at this very moment @ 3-0? Why are we playing a buy game @ Purdue? Why are we playing someone like South Alabama on the road without at least a 2-1 in our favor?
And before you start, I know the answers to ALL those questions. I'm just telling you, those are the complaints, regardless of if we are having "quite a bit of success" or not.
Why DID we accept a 2-1 instead of a H&H or at LEAST a 3-2 from Arkansas? Ole Miss fans are already carping about how they will never sign another even deal with us because of that Arkansas deal. I don't know if the admin at ole miss agrees with that, but they have to answer to their fan base a heck of a lot more than ours does.
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