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A5 Conference Comparison 2019 - Week 3 - Big 12 Is Number 1 !!!
The ACC has a dreadful week. Four teams lost OOC, including GT's "awful loss" to FCS The Citadel. As a result, the ACC's win rate plunges from .41 to .26 and it falls to last place. The Big 12 fared much better. The Big 12 had seven results, five of them wins, thanks in part to wins by both Kansas schools. Their win rate rises from .363 to a whopping .560, moving them from #4 to #1. The B1G, last week's big winner, came crashing down to earth. While Penn State and Iowa notched wins, four B1G teams lost, including Maryland and Illinois bad losses to G5 teams. B1G win rate drops from .563 to .433 and to #2. The PAC also took it on the chin again. The Arizona schools tried, each notching wins, including State's "quality win" over ranked Michigan State. But USC, Stanford, and Colorado all lost to G5 teams, and UCLA was stomped by Oklahoma. The PAC's win rate actually rises from .312 to .324. Finally, the SEC goes 0-1, as Mississippi State falls to Kansas State. The SEC win rate falls from .433 to .406.

Cumulative Rankings for September 15, 2019

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CONFERENCE               WINS                     LOSSES                  SEASON RECORD  

1) B12                     K, KS, O, W, TC       TT, IS,                  7 - 5.5  (.560)

2) B1G                      PS, I                 MS, MD#, Il#, P         6.5 - 8.5 (.433)

3) SEC                                            MS                       6.5 - 9.5  (.406)

4) PAC                     AS*, A,                SC#, C#, S, U           6 - 12.5 (.324)

5) ACC                                           BC, P, NS, GT&           3.5-10 (.259)





@ 2 win credit for "super win" (see Method)

* 1.5 win credit for "quality win"

# 1.5 loss credit for "bad loss"

& 2 loss credit for "awful loss"

METHOD

1) Only OOC games count.

2) Notre Dame is always regarded as a A5 opponent, including for ACC teams. BYU, Army and other FBS independents are regarded as G5 opponents excepted as noted below.

3) All references to "rankings" are to at the time the game was played.

4) How losses are assessed:

a) A conference is docked 1 loss for losing to any A5 opponent.

b) A conference is docked 1 loss for losing to any FCS or G5 opponent that is ranked in the Coaches or AP poll, including "others receiving votes".

c) A conference is docked 1.5 losses for losing to any unranked G5 opponent. This is a penalty for a "bad loss".

d) A conference is docked 2 losses for losing to any unranked FCS opponent, a penalty for an "awful loss".


5) How wins are earned:

a) A conference is credited with 1 win for any win against an unranked A5 opponent.

b) A conference gets credit for 1 win against an FCS or G5 opponent if the FCS or G5 opponent is ranked in the "others receiving votes" of both the AP and Coaches polls.

c) A conference earns 1.5 wins for beating any team ranked between 11-25 in the AP or Coaches top 25. This is a bonus for a "quality win".

d) A conference earns 2 wins if the win is against any team ranked in the top 10 in either poll. This is a bonus for a "super" win.

6) Wins against unranked FCS or G5 earn no credit.

7) For bowl season, the following modifications apply:

- Rankings of bowl game opponents are based on CFP rankings only, save for rules that refer to "others receiving votes" above. For bowl games pitting A5 vs G5, all win and loss credit is earned according to rules 4b-c and 5c-d and 6 above, with CFP substituted for AP/Coaches. So for example, beating a CFP unranked G5 team still earns no credit for the A5 conference, but losing to an unranked G5 in a bowl game does mean it suffers the "bad" loss penalty. But, if the G5 bowl opponent is ranked in the "others receiving votes" of either the AP or Coaches poll, the P5 conference would get credit for 1 win (if they win the bowl game) or just 1 loss (if they lose the bowl game).
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RE: A5 Conference Comparison 2019 - Week 3 - Big 12 Is Number 1 !!!
Updated for September 14 results.
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RE: A5 Conference Comparison 2019 - Week 3 - Big 12 Is Number 1 !!!
ACC should get an extra loss. The UNC/Wake Forest game was an OOC game and so thus the loss should count against the ACC.
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(09-15-2019 12:39 PM)stever20 Wrote:  ACC should get an extra loss. The UNC/Wake Forest game was an OOC game and so thus the loss should count against the ACC.

Well then they should get an extra win as well, right, since Wake Forest is an ACC team too.

That's why I don't count any conference games. Alabama beats South Carolina, the SEC gets a win, and a loss, it washes out and has no bearing on how the SEC compares to other conferences.

So I don't get into the shenanigans of WF vs UNC being OOC. IMO, that is silly, they are both ACC schools.
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RE: A5 Conference Comparison 2019 - Week 3 - Big 12 Is Number 1 !!!
(09-15-2019 12:43 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-15-2019 12:39 PM)stever20 Wrote:  ACC should get an extra loss. The UNC/Wake Forest game was an OOC game and so thus the loss should count against the ACC.

Well then they should get an extra win as well, right, since Wake Forest is an ACC team too.

That's why I don't count any conference games. Alabama beats South Carolina, the SEC gets a win, and a loss, it washes out and has no bearing on how the SEC compares to other conferences.

So I don't get into the shenanigans of WF vs UNC being OOC. IMO, that is silly, they are both ACC schools.

Can you expand it to all leagues?
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(09-15-2019 12:49 PM)otown Wrote:  
(09-15-2019 12:43 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-15-2019 12:39 PM)stever20 Wrote:  ACC should get an extra loss. The UNC/Wake Forest game was an OOC game and so thus the loss should count against the ACC.

Well then they should get an extra win as well, right, since Wake Forest is an ACC team too.

That's why I don't count any conference games. Alabama beats South Carolina, the SEC gets a win, and a loss, it washes out and has no bearing on how the SEC compares to other conferences.

So I don't get into the shenanigans of WF vs UNC being OOC. IMO, that is silly, they are both ACC schools.

Can you expand it to all leagues?

I couldn't as it is currently formulated, because the way wins and losses are parceled out is peculiar to a A5 perspective. E.g., it would make no sense for an AAC team to suffer a 1.5 loss penalty for losing to a team from another G5 conference or vice-versa.

But maybe we could do a G5 Conference Comparison, with bonuses for wins vs A5 schools and penalties for losses to FCS schools.
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