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(09-15-2019 06:31 PM)memphisike Wrote:  U need to give this Brady. Conner a rest, the Dude is winning and if coach Norvell should leave Brady might join him. At utk

Brady would have to follow Norvell, if your said hypothetical happened, because he wouldn’t start otherwise. Also it’s the Memphis Tigers winning, not Brady White, and to an extent, Norvell. Fuente saw that grass isn’t greener. Our administration has got behind the football program. It’s sustainable, not 1 player, one coach: it’s very sustainable with the top down support we have now!!
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I like Brady, I root for him every snap! And most complain about his arm. No it’s not great but it’s good enough. His flaw or weakness is his speed/ footwork. All of the good quarterbacks in today’s football have the ability to change the pocket. Even the vaunted Oklahoma offensive with back to back heismen trophy winners got pressure. No qb can expect perfect protection in today’s game. It’s gotten to fast. Quarterbacks have to extend plays, move pocket, adjust to pressure.
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(09-15-2019 07:39 PM)shirley temple Wrote:  I like Brady, I root for him every snap! And most complain about his arm. No it’s not great but it’s good enough. His flaw or weakness is his speed/ footwork. All of the good quarterbacks in today’s football have the ability to change the pocket. Even the vaunted Oklahoma offensive with back to back heismen trophy winners got pressure. No qb can expect perfect protection in today’s game. It’s gotten to fast. Quarterbacks have to extend plays, move pocket, adjust to pressure.

OK had 3 OL taken in the NFL draft. Every one of the OL will be playing in the NFL.

With that said, I do agree with you for the most part. His weakness is pocket presence and the inability to be a true run threat. No where close to being a negative that will keep us from beating any team on our schedule, but still a weakness.
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I think Coach looks at him not so much as winning the game but, not losing it and so far it's working
He has surrounded him with good players and given Brady the keys.
Some Dude named Starr had the reputation for not losing games, especially the big ones
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Brady is a very good college QB. We've had a pro-level guy come through and are getting downright picky.
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(09-15-2019 08:13 PM)memphisike Wrote:  I think Coach looks at him not so much as winning the game but, not losing it and so far it's working
He has surrounded him with good players and given Brady the keys.
Some Dude named Starr had the reputation for not losing games, especially the big ones

Bart was much better than you suggest. Only nfl quarterback to win 3 straight league titles, has the highest postseason passer rating and was 9-1 in postseason play including mvp of first two super bowls.
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I think we can all agree; we like Brady White, we root for him as the leader of our team , we wish he was faster; but he is not, never will be;and hopefully we stay away from situations that require it! Go tigers!!
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(09-15-2019 08:11 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  
(09-15-2019 07:39 PM)shirley temple Wrote:  I like Brady, I root for him every snap! And most complain about his arm. No it’s not great but it’s good enough. His flaw or weakness is his speed/ footwork. All of the good quarterbacks in today’s football have the ability to change the pocket. Even the vaunted Oklahoma offensive with back to back heismen trophy winners got pressure. No qb can expect perfect protection in today’s game. It’s gotten to fast. Quarterbacks have to extend plays, move pocket, adjust to pressure.

OK had 3 OL taken in the NFL draft. Every one of the OL will be playing in the NFL.

With that said, I do agree with you for the most part. His weakness is pocket presence and the inability to be a true run threat. No where close to being a negative that will keep us from beating any team on our schedule, but still a weakness.

Thanks for making my point, even with that, with today’s wide open game, you need to move the pocket! Watch an Oklahoma game before you argue with me.
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(09-15-2019 08:39 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(09-15-2019 08:13 PM)memphisike Wrote:  I think Coach looks at him not so much as winning the game but, not losing it and so far it's working
He has surrounded him with good players and given Brady the keys.
Some Dude named Starr had the reputation for not losing games, especially the big ones

Bart was much better than you suggest. Only nfl quarterback to win 3 straight league titles, has the highest postseason passer rating and was 9-1 in postseason play including mvp of first two super bowls.

And Bart was 6-2-3 losing to rice in the cotton bowl, injured by other bama players hazing him, played very little his junior year was benched his senior year for a younger qb. Bama went 0-10 with Bart Starr on the bench.

Maybe everybody should back of on the whole qb replacement thing

Just sayin.

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(09-15-2019 08:28 PM)Claw Wrote:  Brady is a very good college QB. We've had a pro-level guy come through and are getting downright picky.

A pro-level guy and one right behind him for 2 years who was invited to a pro camp.

I guess we'll have 2 weeks solid of this, with the "slow news cycle" of the bye week.

Maybe we can start an "Any update on Patrick Taylor?" or a "Should Taylor redshirt and try to use next whole season to make a push for the pros?" thread later in the week in order to break up the monotony.
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(09-15-2019 08:28 PM)Claw Wrote:  Brady is a very good college QB. We've had a pro-level guy come through and are getting downright picky.

Ummmm? Which guy made it in the pros? One guy was a first round bust, other guy never saw a preseason game. Maybe any quarterback ( with mobility) looks fantastic in this system. Why limit it to Brady White: give me some other opportunities
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We are not impressed.

It WAS a PM. Just for the record. He's now blocked, so I no longer worry about the stupidity.

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(09-14-2019 08:05 PM)micman Wrote:  Brady’s performance against USA didn’t inspire a lot of confidence in me

Yeah, winning too much to not enough sucks big time. 03-lmfao
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(09-12-2019 08:13 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 05:39 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  
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(09-09-2019 02:28 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 02:22 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  .

Yeah, well try reading it again. The title sounds like a question to me. Was the OP an insinuation he shouldn't be the starter? Probably/maybe

Without reading every post, I didn't see any that said we should bench Brady White. If someone did, that would certainly be foolish at this point in time. Just be mindful of his limitations and don't get overwhelmed by meaningless stats.

White threw a short sideline pass that went for a 50 yard touchdown thanks to Gibson. Gibson made that play. Adair throws a perfect ball 50yds in the air that gets dropped.

White is 1-1 with a 50yd touchdown. Adair is o-1 for no yards and credited with an incomplete pass. Which QB was more impressive on those two plays?

Did you watch the game? White had multiple throws more than 20 yards downfield. More completions than incompletions.

Yeah I watched the game. I watched the Ole Miss game too.

White had a solid game against Southern. He's had trouble against good teams that make him move in the pocket. If you're happy with a slow footed, soft tosser who throws mostly underneath or behind the line of scrimmage, he's perfect. His stats will look good on paper. If he has to make a play downfield, he struggles. If he has to carry the team on his back when the running game is getting shut down, he hasn't been real good.

Let's see how he does going forward. Last year he had a bum foot most of the year. Let's throw out the first game of this year for various reasons and see what happens. He's definitely going to be the starter as he should. I just don't understan why some of us get all jiggy when someone points out some of his shortcomings. It's a discussion forum.

Because most of us have better than an elementary understanding of football. We understand the difference in two Junior that had 17 catches combined in their careers being called experienced players. We also understand there is a huge difference in a QB with one of the five strongest arms on the Tigers in the last four decades and somebody that has no arm strength at all. We also understand that a QB runs the offense that is called.

There is a big difference in pointing out shortcomings and trashing the QB and saying he is holding us back. It's the second game of the season and he is 2-0.
It's the stupidity of after two wins, some idiots are calling for the backup to be the starter. When most of them have never been to a practice, don't really know anything about the team and just whine like insolent children when people don't agree with them.

If you don't fit into any of those descriptions, then I have no problem discussing his limitations and strengths and how they fit within our team's offense.

I can't comment YET because I can't find the full Southern game anywhere, but IF Adair did throw a ball 50 yards in the air it proves that White can't make that throw, Norvell won't let him, and Norvell's evaluation of his skill set is that he "trusted" him to throw 9 passes behind the line of scrimmage to start the Ole Piss game, with the other pass intended as a 5 yard out, that White was way late on. In other words, he has no trust in him, and sadly has (had) even less trust in McBride and Adair.

We've had to listen to idiotic stuff, like White is the reason why Henderson and the rest of the running backs ran for 3,919 yards, that the wide receivers and tight ends can't get open and that the offensive line is no good.

Are you still arguing that it is Coxie's 2nd year? That was especially stupid on your part.

You must have missed the long balls he threw while in Mobile. Must have been while you were wiping all that egg off your face huh?
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(09-15-2019 12:29 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Go to your PMs! Both of you!

We are not impressed.

A little impressed03-lmfao but not for the reasons that would make them proud

Beat me to it. I'm impressed two people can talk that long without saying anything.
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(09-16-2019 05:32 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 08:13 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 05:39 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 04:49 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 02:28 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  Did you watch the game? White had multiple throws more than 20 yards downfield. More completions than incompletions.

Yeah I watched the game. I watched the Ole Miss game too.

White had a solid game against Southern. He's had trouble against good teams that make him move in the pocket. If you're happy with a slow footed, soft tosser who throws mostly underneath or behind the line of scrimmage, he's perfect. His stats will look good on paper. If he has to make a play downfield, he struggles. If he has to carry the team on his back when the running game is getting shut down, he hasn't been real good.

Let's see how he does going forward. Last year he had a bum foot most of the year. Let's throw out the first game of this year for various reasons and see what happens. He's definitely going to be the starter as he should. I just don't understan why some of us get all jiggy when someone points out some of his shortcomings. It's a discussion forum.

Because most of us have better than an elementary understanding of football. We understand the difference in two Junior that had 17 catches combined in their careers being called experienced players. We also understand there is a huge difference in a QB with one of the five strongest arms on the Tigers in the last four decades and somebody that has no arm strength at all. We also understand that a QB runs the offense that is called.

There is a big difference in pointing out shortcomings and trashing the QB and saying he is holding us back. It's the second game of the season and he is 2-0.
It's the stupidity of after two wins, some idiots are calling for the backup to be the starter. When most of them have never been to a practice, don't really know anything about the team and just whine like insolent children when people don't agree with them.

If you don't fit into any of those descriptions, then I have no problem discussing his limitations and strengths and how they fit within our team's offense.

I can't comment YET because I can't find the full Southern game anywhere, but IF Adair did throw a ball 50 yards in the air it proves that White can't make that throw, Norvell won't let him, and Norvell's evaluation of his skill set is that he "trusted" him to throw 9 passes behind the line of scrimmage to start the Ole Piss game, with the other pass intended as a 5 yard out, that White was way late on. In other words, he has no trust in him, and sadly has (had) even less trust in McBride and Adair.

We've had to listen to idiotic stuff, like White is the reason why Henderson and the rest of the running backs ran for 3,919 yards, that the wide receivers and tight ends can't get open and that the offensive line is no good.

Are you still arguing that it is Coxie's 2nd year? That was especially stupid on your part.

You must have missed the long balls he threw while in Mobile. Must have been while you were wiping all that egg off your face huh?

Wow.
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(09-16-2019 05:32 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 08:13 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 05:39 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  
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(09-09-2019 02:28 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  Did you watch the game? White had multiple throws more than 20 yards downfield. More completions than incompletions.

Yeah I watched the game. I watched the Ole Miss game too.

White had a solid game against Southern. He's had trouble against good teams that make him move in the pocket. If you're happy with a slow footed, soft tosser who throws mostly underneath or behind the line of scrimmage, he's perfect. His stats will look good on paper. If he has to make a play downfield, he struggles. If he has to carry the team on his back when the running game is getting shut down, he hasn't been real good.

Let's see how he does going forward. Last year he had a bum foot most of the year. Let's throw out the first game of this year for various reasons and see what happens. He's definitely going to be the starter as he should. I just don't understan why some of us get all jiggy when someone points out some of his shortcomings. It's a discussion forum.

Because most of us have better than an elementary understanding of football. We understand the difference in two Junior that had 17 catches combined in their careers being called experienced players. We also understand there is a huge difference in a QB with one of the five strongest arms on the Tigers in the last four decades and somebody that has no arm strength at all. We also understand that a QB runs the offense that is called.

There is a big difference in pointing out shortcomings and trashing the QB and saying he is holding us back. It's the second game of the season and he is 2-0.
It's the stupidity of after two wins, some idiots are calling for the backup to be the starter. When most of them have never been to a practice, don't really know anything about the team and just whine like insolent children when people don't agree with them.

If you don't fit into any of those descriptions, then I have no problem discussing his limitations and strengths and how they fit within our team's offense.

I can't comment YET because I can't find the full Southern game anywhere, but IF Adair did throw a ball 50 yards in the air it proves that White can't make that throw, Norvell won't let him, and Norvell's evaluation of his skill set is that he "trusted" him to throw 9 passes behind the line of scrimmage to start the Ole Piss game, with the other pass intended as a 5 yard out, that White was way late on. In other words, he has no trust in him, and sadly has (had) even less trust in McBride and Adair.

We've had to listen to idiotic stuff, like White is the reason why Henderson and the rest of the running backs ran for 3,919 yards, that the wide receivers and tight ends can't get open and that the offensive line is no good.

Are you still arguing that it is Coxie's 2nd year? That was especially stupid on your part.

You must have missed the long balls he threw while in Mobile. Must have been while you were wiping all that egg off your face huh?

Many people don't understand that throwing quick passes are called when you feel the defense has an advantage up front and many times the qb audibles to those passes based on how the defense lines up. But I guess that is what happens when you don't watch much football and have never played
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(09-16-2019 08:16 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(09-16-2019 05:32 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 08:13 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 05:39 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 04:49 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  Yeah I watched the game. I watched the Ole Miss game too.

White had a solid game against Southern. He's had trouble against good teams that make him move in the pocket. If you're happy with a slow footed, soft tosser who throws mostly underneath or behind the line of scrimmage, he's perfect. His stats will look good on paper. If he has to make a play downfield, he struggles. If he has to carry the team on his back when the running game is getting shut down, he hasn't been real good.

Let's see how he does going forward. Last year he had a bum foot most of the year. Let's throw out the first game of this year for various reasons and see what happens. He's definitely going to be the starter as he should. I just don't understan why some of us get all jiggy when someone points out some of his shortcomings. It's a discussion forum.

Because most of us have better than an elementary understanding of football. We understand the difference in two Junior that had 17 catches combined in their careers being called experienced players. We also understand there is a huge difference in a QB with one of the five strongest arms on the Tigers in the last four decades and somebody that has no arm strength at all. We also understand that a QB runs the offense that is called.

There is a big difference in pointing out shortcomings and trashing the QB and saying he is holding us back. It's the second game of the season and he is 2-0.
It's the stupidity of after two wins, some idiots are calling for the backup to be the starter. When most of them have never been to a practice, don't really know anything about the team and just whine like insolent children when people don't agree with them.

If you don't fit into any of those descriptions, then I have no problem discussing his limitations and strengths and how they fit within our team's offense.

I can't comment YET because I can't find the full Southern game anywhere, but IF Adair did throw a ball 50 yards in the air it proves that White can't make that throw, Norvell won't let him, and Norvell's evaluation of his skill set is that he "trusted" him to throw 9 passes behind the line of scrimmage to start the Ole Piss game, with the other pass intended as a 5 yard out, that White was way late on. In other words, he has no trust in him, and sadly has (had) even less trust in McBride and Adair.

We've had to listen to idiotic stuff, like White is the reason why Henderson and the rest of the running backs ran for 3,919 yards, that the wide receivers and tight ends can't get open and that the offensive line is no good.

Are you still arguing that it is Coxie's 2nd year? That was especially stupid on your part.

You must have missed the long balls he threw while in Mobile. Must have been while you were wiping all that egg off your face huh?

Many people don't understand that throwing quick passes are called when you feel the defense has an advantage up front and many times the qb audibles to those passes based on how the defense lines up. But I guess that is what happens when you don't watch much football and have never played

Bwahahahaha. You think we have another qb ready to audible and make quick passes better than Brady. I guess that's what happens even if you've played, watched lots of football and are still dumb as a sack of hammers.

But please continue your enlightenment.
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(08-31-2019 09:09 PM)TigerTwice Wrote:  
(08-31-2019 07:29 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(08-31-2019 06:42 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  White is holding this team back IMO.

You're an idiot. Break all your fingers and quit posting.

You, sir? Have proven yourself to be the idiot with that statement.

Brady White is not good. Period.

Quit the internet. Jackwagon.

I miss TigerTwice, but this was a poor last post. Come back, amigo.
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Wonder how things are going to be in 2021 when this board will be complaining about the QB that year and how he is no Brady White. White is within range of every Tiger's passing record in the books. Already 2nd in single-season TD passes, T-3rd in career TD passes, 4 in career passing yards.
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