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RE: Is it time to turn to Connor Adair?
(09-10-2019 09:51 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  Geoff and Gary going at it about this subject right now.

They 05-stirthepot.

Not the first time the board provided a topic for sports radio discussion.
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(09-10-2019 09:51 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  Geoff and Gary going at it about this subject right now.

They 05-stirthepot.

Not the first time the board provided a topic for sports radio discussion.

Exactly what I was thinking.
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(09-09-2019 04:43 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 04:19 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 04:04 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 03:26 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Some of you are going to be begging the mods to delete this thread as the season goes on.

I will stand by every word and will be thrilled if things change; unlike a loser who won't admit that it is stupid to say that our receivers are young, when 5 out of 6 are seniors.

My opinion is that Norvell has no confidence in the offense. No confidence in White, no confidence in our offensive line and no confidence in our wide receivers. How else can anyone explain the play calling otherwise?

Last year when we had to open up the offense in meaningful games against good competition; White was not up to the task. The offense only worked last season when our running backs were making a record number of runs of 40 yards or more. We don't have that luxury this year and White wasted it last year.

IF White and the offense perform well against Navy and Temple; I will be happy to admit that I was wrong, and then shift the blame to Norvell for making us so one dimensional.

It's as simple as that.

What would need to happen to cause you to admit you were wrong, and accept the blame yourself? And I'm being serious here. This is why people feel the need to double down.

When on at least a few of the intermediate throws of 15-25 yards, he hits a higher percentage. Jones was wide open on the scramble 30 yards down field and the ball was thrown too late. Williams was wide open in the middle of the field and instead of hitting him in stride, he has to turn back and go to the ground to catch it. Coxie was fairly well covered but the ball was still late and behind him; stuff like that.

You can't do anything about the fact that White is going to make every offensive line look bad, no matter how good they are, because so many of his throws are under 10 yards, he puts no zip on the ball, and he is the slowest, least elusive runner imaginable.

If he can keep the defenses from playing everyone close to the line of scrimmage and jumping every single route, that will be a good start. It also wouldn't be too much to ask (I think) for him to win a game or two by playing well; every quarterback manages it now and then.

For the 100th time; it would be nice if he could do this against good competition.

You guys are wasting your breath. You will never convince these guys that Brady is the quarter back we have until we go undefeated. Then they will say stuff like. "HE didn't play nobody" geez give it a rest.
I'm fine with Brady better that some guy that can't read the playbook. I pulling for him and the team all the way.

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RE: Is it time to turn to Connor Adair?
(09-10-2019 09:54 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 08:32 PM)Unionman76 Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 11:51 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  So, what we're saying is Norvell (like all of the experts here) really knows Adair>>>White.

But, Mike just would rather play Brady because....?

they have history

Ah, ok.

So Norvell and the OC know Adair is better than White, but because Norvell and Brady have a "history," Norvell is going to potentially compromise a AAC title because of that.

Makes sense now.

Physical ability is not the only factor in evaluating a player.

Obviously Norvell thinks White gives them the best chance at winning but that may not be 100% based on physical ability or football related skills.
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RE: Is it time to turn to Connor Adair?
(09-12-2019 07:55 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 09:54 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 08:32 PM)Unionman76 Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 11:51 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  So, what we're saying is Norvell (like all of the experts here) really knows Adair>>>White.

But, Mike just would rather play Brady because....?

they have history

Ah, ok.

So Norvell and the OC know Adair is better than White, but because Norvell and Brady have a "history," Norvell is going to potentially compromise a AAC title because of that.

Makes sense now.

Physical ability is not the only factor in evaluating a player.

Obviously Norvell thinks White gives them the best chance at winning but that may not be 100% based on physical ability or football related skills.

this seems to logical. QuArTeRbAcKs MuSt HaVe A cAnNoN
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RE: Is it time to turn to Connor Adair?
I have no idea how our backups will fare or who gives us the best chance to win because I don't see enough of the other QBs to know.

Brady White's strengths and weaknesses are pretty evident at this point. I'm concerned that a good game plan will neutralize our offense and lead to losses. I hope I'm wrong. I have no idea whether a different QB could overcome those issues but it is a legitimate question to ask.
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RE: Is it time to turn to Connor Adair?
Connor looked really good for the time he played. Yes, he raised my eyebrows more than once.
I don't have the luxury of watching our team in practice, but am feeling very good about our backup QB and trust that coach Norvell will make the right decisions at the right time.

2-0 is a great place to be. GTG
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(09-12-2019 03:28 PM)slktigers Wrote:  Connor looked really good for the time he played. Yes, he raised my eyebrows more than once.
I don't have the luxury of watching our team in practice, but am feeling very good about our backup QB and trust that coach Norvell will make the right decisions at the right time.

2-0 is a great place to be. GTG

White is going to be the QB until we are in dire straights...

Does anyone think Saban didn't see that Tua was a better QB than Hurts all year long (Not saying this the case between Adair and White)...But Saban understood that the Hurts was the TEAMS QB and it would likely hurt the TEAM more by pulling him than he would gain by Tua's extra production.
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RE: Is it time to turn to Connor Adair?
(09-12-2019 03:39 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 03:28 PM)slktigers Wrote:  Connor looked really good for the time he played. Yes, he raised my eyebrows more than once.
I don't have the luxury of watching our team in practice, but am feeling very good about our backup QB and trust that coach Norvell will make the right decisions at the right time.

2-0 is a great place to be. GTG

White is going to be the QB until we are in dire straights...

Does anyone think Saban didn't see that Tua was a better QB than Hurts all year long (Not saying this the case between Adair and White)...But Saban understood that the Hurts was the TEAMS QB and it would likely hurt the TEAM more by pulling him than he would gain by Tua's extra production.

Ridiculous comparison.
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RE: Is it time to turn to Connor Adair?
(09-09-2019 04:49 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 02:28 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 02:22 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 01:04 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 12:51 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  That's a Strawmans argument. Nobody is saying White shouldn't be the starter.

The thread title.

Literally.
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Yeah, well try reading it again. The title sounds like a question to me. Was the OP an insinuation he shouldn't be the starter? Probably/maybe

Without reading every post, I didn't see any that said we should bench Brady White. If someone did, that would certainly be foolish at this point in time. Just be mindful of his limitations and don't get overwhelmed by meaningless stats.

White threw a short sideline pass that went for a 50 yard touchdown thanks to Gibson. Gibson made that play. Adair throws a perfect ball 50yds in the air that gets dropped.

White is 1-1 with a 50yd touchdown. Adair is o-1 for no yards and credited with an incomplete pass. Which QB was more impressive on those two plays?

Did you watch the game? White had multiple throws more than 20 yards downfield. More completions than incompletions.

Yeah I watched the game. I watched the Ole Miss game too.

White had a solid game against Southern. He's had trouble against good teams that make him move in the pocket. If you're happy with a slow footed, soft tosser who throws mostly underneath or behind the line of scrimmage, he's perfect. His stats will look good on paper. If he has to make a play downfield, he struggles. If he has to carry the team on his back when the running game is getting shut down, he hasn't been real good.

Let's see how he does going forward. Last year he had a bum foot most of the year. Let's throw out the first game of this year for various reasons and see what happens. He's definitely going to be the starter as he should. I just don't understan why some of us get all jiggy when someone points out some of his shortcomings. It's a discussion forum.

Because most of us have better than an elementary understanding of football. We understand the difference in two Junior that had 17 catches combined in their careers being called experienced players. We also understand there is a huge difference in a QB with one of the five strongest arms on the Tigers in the last four decades and somebody that has no arm strength at all. We also understand that a QB runs the offense that is called.

There is a big difference in pointing out shortcomings and trashing the QB and saying he is holding us back. It's the second game of the season and he is 2-0.
It's the stupidity of after two wins, some idiots are calling for the backup to be the starter. When most of them have never been to a practice, don't really know anything about the team and just whine like insolent children when people don't agree with them.

If you don't fit into any of those descriptions, then I have no problem discussing his limitations and strengths and how they fit within our team's offense.
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RE: Is it time to turn to Connor Adair?
Lets just keep blowing the cupcakes out and give Adair plenty of time. Works for me.
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RE: Is it time to turn to Connor Adair?
(09-12-2019 05:39 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 04:49 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 02:28 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 02:22 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 01:04 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  The thread title.

Literally.
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Yeah, well try reading it again. The title sounds like a question to me. Was the OP an insinuation he shouldn't be the starter? Probably/maybe

Without reading every post, I didn't see any that said we should bench Brady White. If someone did, that would certainly be foolish at this point in time. Just be mindful of his limitations and don't get overwhelmed by meaningless stats.

White threw a short sideline pass that went for a 50 yard touchdown thanks to Gibson. Gibson made that play. Adair throws a perfect ball 50yds in the air that gets dropped.

White is 1-1 with a 50yd touchdown. Adair is o-1 for no yards and credited with an incomplete pass. Which QB was more impressive on those two plays?

Did you watch the game? White had multiple throws more than 20 yards downfield. More completions than incompletions.

Yeah I watched the game. I watched the Ole Miss game too.

White had a solid game against Southern. He's had trouble against good teams that make him move in the pocket. If you're happy with a slow footed, soft tosser who throws mostly underneath or behind the line of scrimmage, he's perfect. His stats will look good on paper. If he has to make a play downfield, he struggles. If he has to carry the team on his back when the running game is getting shut down, he hasn't been real good.

Let's see how he does going forward. Last year he had a bum foot most of the year. Let's throw out the first game of this year for various reasons and see what happens. He's definitely going to be the starter as he should. I just don't understan why some of us get all jiggy when someone points out some of his shortcomings. It's a discussion forum.

Because most of us have better than an elementary understanding of football. We understand the difference in two Junior that had 17 catches combined in their careers being called experienced players. We also understand there is a huge difference in a QB with one of the five strongest arms on the Tigers in the last four decades and somebody that has no arm strength at all. We also understand that a QB runs the offense that is called.

There is a big difference in pointing out shortcomings and trashing the QB and saying he is holding us back. It's the second game of the season and he is 2-0.
It's the stupidity of after two wins, some idiots are calling for the backup to be the starter. When most of them have never been to a practice, don't really know anything about the team and just whine like insolent children when people don't agree with them.

If you don't fit into any of those descriptions, then I have no problem discussing his limitations and strengths and how they fit within our team's offense.

I can't comment YET because I can't find the full Southern game anywhere, but IF Adair did throw a ball 50 yards in the air it proves that White can't make that throw, Norvell won't let him, and Norvell's evaluation of his skill set is that he "trusted" him to throw 9 passes behind the line of scrimmage to start the Ole Piss game, with the other pass intended as a 5 yard out, that White was way late on. In other words, he has no trust in him, and sadly has (had) even less trust in McBride and Adair.

We've had to listen to idiotic stuff, like White is the reason why Henderson and the rest of the running backs ran for 3,919 yards, that the wide receivers and tight ends can't get open and that the offensive line is no good.

Are you still arguing that it is Coxie's 2nd year? That was especially stupid on your part.
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RE: Is it time to turn to Connor Adair?
(09-12-2019 05:26 PM)WiseMan Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 03:39 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 03:28 PM)slktigers Wrote:  Connor looked really good for the time he played. Yes, he raised my eyebrows more than once.
I don't have the luxury of watching our team in practice, but am feeling very good about our backup QB and trust that coach Norvell will make the right decisions at the right time.

2-0 is a great place to be. GTG

White is going to be the QB until we are in dire straights...

Does anyone think Saban didn't see that Tua was a better QB than Hurts all year long (Not saying this the case between Adair and White)...But Saban understood that the Hurts was the TEAMS QB and it would likely hurt the TEAM more by pulling him than he would gain by Tua's extra production.

Ridiculous comparison.

Well that is good because he clearly was not trying to compare the situations but rather presenting a hypothetical situation as to why Adair would not replace White even IF he were actually better at this point...
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RE: Is it time to turn to Connor Adair?
(09-12-2019 08:33 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 05:26 PM)WiseMan Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 03:39 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 03:28 PM)slktigers Wrote:  Connor looked really good for the time he played. Yes, he raised my eyebrows more than once.
I don't have the luxury of watching our team in practice, but am feeling very good about our backup QB and trust that coach Norvell will make the right decisions at the right time.

2-0 is a great place to be. GTG

White is going to be the QB until we are in dire straights...

Does anyone think Saban didn't see that Tua was a better QB than Hurts all year long (Not saying this the case between Adair and White)...But Saban understood that the Hurts was the TEAMS QB and it would likely hurt the TEAM more by pulling him than he would gain by Tua's extra production.

Ridiculous comparison.

Well that is good because he clearly was not trying to compare the situations but rather presenting a hypothetical situation as to why Adair would not replace White even IF he were actually better at this point...

Why even raise the hypo? Also, he did use 2 NFL QBs as an example(?).
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(09-12-2019 08:13 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 05:39 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 04:49 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 02:28 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 02:22 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  .

Yeah, well try reading it again. The title sounds like a question to me. Was the OP an insinuation he shouldn't be the starter? Probably/maybe

Without reading every post, I didn't see any that said we should bench Brady White. If someone did, that would certainly be foolish at this point in time. Just be mindful of his limitations and don't get overwhelmed by meaningless stats.

White threw a short sideline pass that went for a 50 yard touchdown thanks to Gibson. Gibson made that play. Adair throws a perfect ball 50yds in the air that gets dropped.

White is 1-1 with a 50yd touchdown. Adair is o-1 for no yards and credited with an incomplete pass. Which QB was more impressive on those two plays?

Did you watch the game? White had multiple throws more than 20 yards downfield. More completions than incompletions.

Yeah I watched the game. I watched the Ole Miss game too.

White had a solid game against Southern. He's had trouble against good teams that make him move in the pocket. If you're happy with a slow footed, soft tosser who throws mostly underneath or behind the line of scrimmage, he's perfect. His stats will look good on paper. If he has to make a play downfield, he struggles. If he has to carry the team on his back when the running game is getting shut down, he hasn't been real good.

Let's see how he does going forward. Last year he had a bum foot most of the year. Let's throw out the first game of this year for various reasons and see what happens. He's definitely going to be the starter as he should. I just don't understan why some of us get all jiggy when someone points out some of his shortcomings. It's a discussion forum.

Because most of us have better than an elementary understanding of football. We understand the difference in two Junior that had 17 catches combined in their careers being called experienced players. We also understand there is a huge difference in a QB with one of the five strongest arms on the Tigers in the last four decades and somebody that has no arm strength at all. We also understand that a QB runs the offense that is called.

There is a big difference in pointing out shortcomings and trashing the QB and saying he is holding us back. It's the second game of the season and he is 2-0.
It's the stupidity of after two wins, some idiots are calling for the backup to be the starter. When most of them have never been to a practice, don't really know anything about the team and just whine like insolent children when people don't agree with them.

If you don't fit into any of those descriptions, then I have no problem discussing his limitations and strengths and how they fit within our team's offense.

I can't comment YET because I can't find the full Southern game anywhere, but IF Adair did throw a ball 50 yards in the air it proves that White can't make that throw, Norvell won't let him, and Norvell's evaluation of his skill set is that he "trusted" him to throw 9 passes behind the line of scrimmage to start the Ole Piss game, with the other pass intended as a 5 yard out, that White was way late on. In other words, he has no trust in him, and sadly has (had) even less trust in McBride and Adair.

We've had to listen to idiotic stuff, like White is the reason why Henderson and the rest of the running backs ran for 3,919 yards, that the wide receivers and tight ends can't get open and that the offensive line is no good.

Are you still arguing that it is Coxie's 2nd year? That was especially stupid on your part.

Do you have the ESPN app? It was on there still as of Sunday. Yes, he (Adair) did hit our receiver in stride on a 50 yard frozen rope. It was a thing of beauty.

I'm not saying Connor is a better QB than Brady White. Only Coach knows that for sure. But I can say without a doubt, after watching every down over the last year and 2 games PLUS the Blue/Grey game that Connor is a better passer, and it ain't even close.
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(09-12-2019 11:41 PM)WiseMan Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 08:33 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 05:26 PM)WiseMan Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 03:39 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 03:28 PM)slktigers Wrote:  Connor looked really good for the time he played. Yes, he raised my eyebrows more than once.
I don't have the luxury of watching our team in practice, but am feeling very good about our backup QB and trust that coach Norvell will make the right decisions at the right time.

2-0 is a great place to be. GTG

White is going to be the QB until we are in dire straights...

Does anyone think Saban didn't see that Tua was a better QB than Hurts all year long (Not saying this the case between Adair and White)...But Saban understood that the Hurts was the TEAMS QB and it would likely hurt the TEAM more by pulling him than he would gain by Tua's extra production.

Ridiculous comparison.

Well that is good because he clearly was not trying to compare the situations but rather presenting a hypothetical situation as to why Adair would not replace White even IF he were actually better at this point...

Why even raise the hypo? Also, he did use 2 NFL QBs as an example(?).

Because his point was that IF (hypothetical) Adair was actually better than White that it is still highly unlikely that Norvell would replace Adair with White despite being better because of how it could overall impact the team morale and chemistry. To illustrate his point he used Tua and Hurt as an example. Saban did not realize at half time of the NC game that Tua was better, he had known that for a long time. However, Hurt was able to get them to a NC game and was only until it was pretty clear Hurt had taken them as far as he could and they were on the verge of losing a NC that Saban finally decided to make the switch to Tua.

His point was simple - Unless we were on the verge of disaster (multiple game losing streak or something like that) it is highly unlikely Norvell plays Adair over White even IF Norvell thinks Adair is better.
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(09-13-2019 12:15 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 08:13 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 05:39 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 04:49 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 02:28 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  Did you watch the game? White had multiple throws more than 20 yards downfield. More completions than incompletions.

Yeah I watched the game. I watched the Ole Miss game too.

White had a solid game against Southern. He's had trouble against good teams that make him move in the pocket. If you're happy with a slow footed, soft tosser who throws mostly underneath or behind the line of scrimmage, he's perfect. His stats will look good on paper. If he has to make a play downfield, he struggles. If he has to carry the team on his back when the running game is getting shut down, he hasn't been real good.

Let's see how he does going forward. Last year he had a bum foot most of the year. Let's throw out the first game of this year for various reasons and see what happens. He's definitely going to be the starter as he should. I just don't understan why some of us get all jiggy when someone points out some of his shortcomings. It's a discussion forum.

Because most of us have better than an elementary understanding of football. We understand the difference in two Junior that had 17 catches combined in their careers being called experienced players. We also understand there is a huge difference in a QB with one of the five strongest arms on the Tigers in the last four decades and somebody that has no arm strength at all. We also understand that a QB runs the offense that is called.

There is a big difference in pointing out shortcomings and trashing the QB and saying he is holding us back. It's the second game of the season and he is 2-0.
It's the stupidity of after two wins, some idiots are calling for the backup to be the starter. When most of them have never been to a practice, don't really know anything about the team and just whine like insolent children when people don't agree with them.

If you don't fit into any of those descriptions, then I have no problem discussing his limitations and strengths and how they fit within our team's offense.

I can't comment YET because I can't find the full Southern game anywhere, but IF Adair did throw a ball 50 yards in the air it proves that White can't make that throw, Norvell won't let him, and Norvell's evaluation of his skill set is that he "trusted" him to throw 9 passes behind the line of scrimmage to start the Ole Piss game, with the other pass intended as a 5 yard out, that White was way late on. In other words, he has no trust in him, and sadly has (had) even less trust in McBride and Adair.

We've had to listen to idiotic stuff, like White is the reason why Henderson and the rest of the running backs ran for 3,919 yards, that the wide receivers and tight ends can't get open and that the offensive line is no good.

Are you still arguing that it is Coxie's 2nd year? That was especially stupid on your part.

Do you have the ESPN app? It was on there still as of Sunday. Yes, he (Adair) did hit our receiver in stride on a 50 yard frozen rope. It was a thing of beauty.

I'm not saying Connor is a better QB than Brady White. Only Coach knows that for sure. But I can say without a doubt, after watching every down over the last year and 2 games PLUS the Blue/Grey game that Connor is a better passer, and it ain't even close.

I think they took it down. I watched the first half Sunday and then went to watch the second half Monday or Tuesday and I could no longer find the game.
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RE: Is it time to turn to Connor Adair?
(09-13-2019 12:15 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 08:13 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 05:39 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 04:49 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 02:28 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  Did you watch the game? White had multiple throws more than 20 yards downfield. More completions than incompletions.

Yeah I watched the game. I watched the Ole Miss game too.

White had a solid game against Southern. He's had trouble against good teams that make him move in the pocket. If you're happy with a slow footed, soft tosser who throws mostly underneath or behind the line of scrimmage, he's perfect. His stats will look good on paper. If he has to make a play downfield, he struggles. If he has to carry the team on his back when the running game is getting shut down, he hasn't been real good.

Let's see how he does going forward. Last year he had a bum foot most of the year. Let's throw out the first game of this year for various reasons and see what happens. He's definitely going to be the starter as he should. I just don't understan why some of us get all jiggy when someone points out some of his shortcomings. It's a discussion forum.

Because most of us have better than an elementary understanding of football. We understand the difference in two Junior that had 17 catches combined in their careers being called experienced players. We also understand there is a huge difference in a QB with one of the five strongest arms on the Tigers in the last four decades and somebody that has no arm strength at all. We also understand that a QB runs the offense that is called.

There is a big difference in pointing out shortcomings and trashing the QB and saying he is holding us back. It's the second game of the season and he is 2-0.
It's the stupidity of after two wins, some idiots are calling for the backup to be the starter. When most of them have never been to a practice, don't really know anything about the team and just whine like insolent children when people don't agree with them.

If you don't fit into any of those descriptions, then I have no problem discussing his limitations and strengths and how they fit within our team's offense.

I can't comment YET because I can't find the full Southern game anywhere, but IF Adair did throw a ball 50 yards in the air it proves that White can't make that throw, Norvell won't let him, and Norvell's evaluation of his skill set is that he "trusted" him to throw 9 passes behind the line of scrimmage to start the Ole Piss game, with the other pass intended as a 5 yard out, that White was way late on. In other words, he has no trust in him, and sadly has (had) even less trust in McBride and Adair.

We've had to listen to idiotic stuff, like White is the reason why Henderson and the rest of the running backs ran for 3,919 yards, that the wide receivers and tight ends can't get open and that the offensive line is no good.

Are you still arguing that it is Coxie's 2nd year? That was especially stupid on your part.

Do you have the ESPN app? It was on there still as of Sunday. Yes, he (Adair) did hit our receiver in stride on a 50 yard frozen rope. It was a thing of beauty.

I'm not saying Connor is a better QB than Brady White. Only Coach knows that for sure. But I can say without a doubt, after watching every down over the last year and 2 games PLUS the Blue/Grey game that Connor is a better passer, and it ain't even close.

I don't unfortunately; no ESPN app in Canada. I've been watching replays on YouTube.
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RE: Is it time to turn to Connor Adair?
(09-13-2019 12:57 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(09-13-2019 12:15 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 08:13 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 05:39 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  
(09-09-2019 04:49 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  Yeah I watched the game. I watched the Ole Miss game too.

White had a solid game against Southern. He's had trouble against good teams that make him move in the pocket. If you're happy with a slow footed, soft tosser who throws mostly underneath or behind the line of scrimmage, he's perfect. His stats will look good on paper. If he has to make a play downfield, he struggles. If he has to carry the team on his back when the running game is getting shut down, he hasn't been real good.

Let's see how he does going forward. Last year he had a bum foot most of the year. Let's throw out the first game of this year for various reasons and see what happens. He's definitely going to be the starter as he should. I just don't understan why some of us get all jiggy when someone points out some of his shortcomings. It's a discussion forum.

Because most of us have better than an elementary understanding of football. We understand the difference in two Junior that had 17 catches combined in their careers being called experienced players. We also understand there is a huge difference in a QB with one of the five strongest arms on the Tigers in the last four decades and somebody that has no arm strength at all. We also understand that a QB runs the offense that is called.

There is a big difference in pointing out shortcomings and trashing the QB and saying he is holding us back. It's the second game of the season and he is 2-0.
It's the stupidity of after two wins, some idiots are calling for the backup to be the starter. When most of them have never been to a practice, don't really know anything about the team and just whine like insolent children when people don't agree with them.

If you don't fit into any of those descriptions, then I have no problem discussing his limitations and strengths and how they fit within our team's offense.

I can't comment YET because I can't find the full Southern game anywhere, but IF Adair did throw a ball 50 yards in the air it proves that White can't make that throw, Norvell won't let him, and Norvell's evaluation of his skill set is that he "trusted" him to throw 9 passes behind the line of scrimmage to start the Ole Piss game, with the other pass intended as a 5 yard out, that White was way late on. In other words, he has no trust in him, and sadly has (had) even less trust in McBride and Adair.

We've had to listen to idiotic stuff, like White is the reason why Henderson and the rest of the running backs ran for 3,919 yards, that the wide receivers and tight ends can't get open and that the offensive line is no good.

Are you still arguing that it is Coxie's 2nd year? That was especially stupid on your part.

Do you have the ESPN app? It was on there still as of Sunday. Yes, he (Adair) did hit our receiver in stride on a 50 yard frozen rope. It was a thing of beauty.

I'm not saying Connor is a better QB than Brady White. Only Coach knows that for sure. But I can say without a doubt, after watching every down over the last year and 2 games PLUS the Blue/Grey game that Connor is a better passer, and it ain't even close.

I think they took it down. I watched the first half Sunday and then went to watch the second half Monday or Tuesday and I could no longer find the game.

The game is still up as of this morning @ about 1:30am. The way I navigated to it was from the home screen I scrolled down to and clicked the NCAA football logo, then scrolled down about 4 or 5 rows to the "on demand" row, and then it was WAAAAAYYYY over to the right. Like 30 or 40 shows or so.
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RE: Is it time to turn to Connor Adair?
(09-13-2019 11:34 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(09-13-2019 12:57 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(09-13-2019 12:15 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 08:13 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 05:39 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  Because most of us have better than an elementary understanding of football. We understand the difference in two Junior that had 17 catches combined in their careers being called experienced players. We also understand there is a huge difference in a QB with one of the five strongest arms on the Tigers in the last four decades and somebody that has no arm strength at all. We also understand that a QB runs the offense that is called.

There is a big difference in pointing out shortcomings and trashing the QB and saying he is holding us back. It's the second game of the season and he is 2-0.
It's the stupidity of after two wins, some idiots are calling for the backup to be the starter. When most of them have never been to a practice, don't really know anything about the team and just whine like insolent children when people don't agree with them.

If you don't fit into any of those descriptions, then I have no problem discussing his limitations and strengths and how they fit within our team's offense.

I can't comment YET because I can't find the full Southern game anywhere, but IF Adair did throw a ball 50 yards in the air it proves that White can't make that throw, Norvell won't let him, and Norvell's evaluation of his skill set is that he "trusted" him to throw 9 passes behind the line of scrimmage to start the Ole Piss game, with the other pass intended as a 5 yard out, that White was way late on. In other words, he has no trust in him, and sadly has (had) even less trust in McBride and Adair.

We've had to listen to idiotic stuff, like White is the reason why Henderson and the rest of the running backs ran for 3,919 yards, that the wide receivers and tight ends can't get open and that the offensive line is no good.

Are you still arguing that it is Coxie's 2nd year? That was especially stupid on your part.

Do you have the ESPN app? It was on there still as of Sunday. Yes, he (Adair) did hit our receiver in stride on a 50 yard frozen rope. It was a thing of beauty.

I'm not saying Connor is a better QB than Brady White. Only Coach knows that for sure. But I can say without a doubt, after watching every down over the last year and 2 games PLUS the Blue/Grey game that Connor is a better passer, and it ain't even close.

I think they took it down. I watched the first half Sunday and then went to watch the second half Monday or Tuesday and I could no longer find the game.

The game is still up as of this morning @ about 1:30am. The way I navigated to it was from the home screen I scrolled down to and clicked the NCAA football logo, then scrolled down about 4 or 5 rows to the "on demand" row, and then it was WAAAAAYYYY over to the right. Like 30 or 40 shows or so.

Interesting. It was definitely off for a period of time., must have been a weird glitch. I will get on there tonight and try to watch the 2nd half. Thanks! 04-cheers
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