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RE: How bad a coach is Charlie Strong
(09-06-2019 09:05 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  
(09-06-2019 08:45 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(08-31-2019 07:43 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  
(08-31-2019 11:16 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Chuck Strong's last 7 games:

Loss vs. Houston 57-36
Loss vs. Tulane 41-15
Loss vs. Cincinnati 35-23
Loss vs. Temple 27-17
Loss vs. UCF 38-10
Loss vs. Marshall 38-20
Loss vs. Wisconsin 49-0

Notice a trend here.

That's very telling. After finishing last season with 6 straight losses, you have to come out in the first game and play Wisconsin better than 0-49. This was at home. Not even a field goal. Chuck Weak has checked out and so has the team. He looks like Chip Jelly on the sidelines and going through the motions with a glazed look in his eyes. He'll be gone by the season's end and USF can go get a real coach. They did pretty good on the basketball hire.
Except that they hired Brian Gregory right after GT let him go. GT hired him right before Dayton fired him. BG: A nicer hoops Lane Kiffin.

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Gregory has the hoops team trending majorly upward. USF is expected to contend for an NCAA bid this year and be a top 50 or so NET team.
He still sign more transfers than recruits? Still view offense as a thing that happens between defensive possessions?

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I have to remember this thread for the AAC threads. Better hope USF does not beat GT.
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RE: How bad a coach is Charlie Strong
Charlie's been a coach for nine years.

Three Top 25 teams.

His other six teams finished with 6 or 7 losses.

This year looks like another 6 or 7 loss season.

Feast or famine. Mostly famine.

But, he's made over $30M coaching football. So good on him.
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(09-07-2019 06:45 AM)sierrajip Wrote:  I have to remember this thread for the AAC threads. Better hope USF does not beat GT.

I want them to beat GT.
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He needs to get his players at USF to be successful. Its too short to pull the cord on Strong. He was successful at L-ville but he had his players. A big difference between Tags and Strongs offense strategy.
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RE: How bad a coach is Charlie Strong
Tech beat us 14-10, both teams were bad.

We probably got screwed, near the GT goalline late, our QB dove over the pile and extended the ball to break the plane but the ball came out and the refs ruled a fumble recovered by Tech.

He probably did score, but as in the Cincy-UCLA game ESPN had putrid replay angle and you couldn't tell for sure.
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RE: How bad a coach is Charlie Strong
(09-07-2019 07:27 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Tech beat us 14-10, both teams were bad.

We probably got screwed, near the GT goalline late, our QB dove over the pile and extended the ball to break the plane but the ball came out and the refs ruled a fumble recovered by Tech.

He probably did score, but as in the Cincy-UCLA game ESPN had putrid replay angle and you couldn't tell for sure.

He did not look like he had possession of the ball when it crossed. I wish that USF would have prevailed, but the running back just made a mistake. One of those things.
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(09-07-2019 08:13 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  
(09-07-2019 07:27 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Tech beat us 14-10, both teams were bad.

We probably got screwed, near the GT goalline late, our QB dove over the pile and extended the ball to break the plane but the ball came out and the refs ruled a fumble recovered by Tech.

He probably did score, but as in the Cincy-UCLA game ESPN had putrid replay angle and you couldn't tell for sure.

He did not look like he had possession of the ball when it crossed. I wish that USF would have prevailed, but the running back just made a mistake. One of those things.

I thought he did. But the main point was that inexplicably, ESPN did not have a view of him leaping and extended with the goal line also in the frame so we could see.
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RE: How bad a coach is Charlie Strong
(09-07-2019 08:18 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-07-2019 08:13 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  
(09-07-2019 07:27 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Tech beat us 14-10, both teams were bad.

We probably got screwed, near the GT goalline late, our QB dove over the pile and extended the ball to break the plane but the ball came out and the refs ruled a fumble recovered by Tech.

He probably did score, but as in the Cincy-UCLA game ESPN had putrid replay angle and you couldn't tell for sure.

He did not look like he had possession of the ball when it crossed. I wish that USF would have prevailed, but the running back just made a mistake. One of those things.

I thought he did. But the main point was that inexplicably, ESPN did not have a view of him leaping and extended with the goal line also in the frame so we could see.

Because ESPN is dishonest and doesn’t want a g5 team to beat a cartel.
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RE: How bad a coach is Charlie Strong
(09-07-2019 08:18 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-07-2019 08:13 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  
(09-07-2019 07:27 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Tech beat us 14-10, both teams were bad.

We probably got screwed, near the GT goalline late, our QB dove over the pile and extended the ball to break the plane but the ball came out and the refs ruled a fumble recovered by Tech.

He probably did score, but as in the Cincy-UCLA game ESPN had putrid replay angle and you couldn't tell for sure.

He did not look like he had possession of the ball when it crossed. I wish that USF would have prevailed, but the running back just made a mistake. One of those things.

I thought he did. But the main point was that inexplicably, ESPN did not have a view of him leaping and extended with the goal line also in the frame so we could see.

Agree to disagree. USF did do better than I thought.
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RE: How bad a coach is Charlie Strong
(09-07-2019 08:21 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(09-07-2019 08:18 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-07-2019 08:13 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  
(09-07-2019 07:27 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Tech beat us 14-10, both teams were bad.

We probably got screwed, near the GT goalline late, our QB dove over the pile and extended the ball to break the plane but the ball came out and the refs ruled a fumble recovered by Tech.

He probably did score, but as in the Cincy-UCLA game ESPN had putrid replay angle and you couldn't tell for sure.

He did not look like he had possession of the ball when it crossed. I wish that USF would have prevailed, but the running back just made a mistake. One of those things.

I thought he did. But the main point was that inexplicably, ESPN did not have a view of him leaping and extended with the goal line also in the frame so we could see.

Because ESPN is dishonest and doesn’t want a g5 team to beat a cartel.

Nah, because last week, Cincy benefited when UCLA seemed to get 7 points on a scoop and score, but the refs ruled the Cincy runner down, and ESPN did not have an angle that saw what happened.

Maybe with all these bazillions of games now being covered by all the ESPN networks and ESPN+ and everything, their cameras are just spread too thin, or else the cameras are being manned by amateurs employed by the schools?
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RE: How bad a coach is Charlie Strong
(09-07-2019 08:28 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-07-2019 08:21 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(09-07-2019 08:18 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-07-2019 08:13 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  
(09-07-2019 07:27 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Tech beat us 14-10, both teams were bad.

We probably got screwed, near the GT goalline late, our QB dove over the pile and extended the ball to break the plane but the ball came out and the refs ruled a fumble recovered by Tech.

He probably did score, but as in the Cincy-UCLA game ESPN had putrid replay angle and you couldn't tell for sure.

He did not look like he had possession of the ball when it crossed. I wish that USF would have prevailed, but the running back just made a mistake. One of those things.

I thought he did. But the main point was that inexplicably, ESPN did not have a view of him leaping and extended with the goal line also in the frame so we could see.

Because ESPN is dishonest and doesn’t want a g5 team to beat a cartel.

Nah, because last week, Cincy benefited when UCLA seemed to get 7 points on a scoop and score, but the refs ruled the Cincy runner down, and ESPN did not have an angle that saw what happened.

Maybe with all these bazillions of games now being covered by all the ESPN networks and ESPN+ and everything, their cameras are just spread too thin, or else the cameras are being manned by amateurs employed by the schools?

An ESPiN conspiracy. With control of CFB, why would that happen.
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I saw a few rays of hope in today's USF loss. USF probably should have won the game. The runner crossed the goal line, but you couldn't really tell based on the angle so the call on the field of a fumble stood. USF would have likely won 17-14 as Georgia Tech was doing nothing on offense in the second half. Secondly, USF may have found their QB of the future in Jordan McCloud. Came in and provided a big spark to USF (finally). So, I am slightly more upbeat today than last week vs. Wisconsin, which was a complete and total disaster.
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(09-07-2019 10:55 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  I saw a few rays of hope in today's USF loss. USF probably should have won the game. The runner crossed the goal line, but you couldn't really tell based on the angle so the call on the field of a fumble stood. USF would have likely won 17-14 as Georgia Tech was doing nothing on offense in the second half. Secondly, USF may have found their QB of the future in Jordan McCloud. Came in and provided a big spark to USF (finally). So, I am slightly more upbeat today than last week vs. Wisconsin, which was a complete and total disaster.

Yes, unforgiveable that ESPN/ACCN camera couldn't get our runner and the goal line in the frame. Terrible camera work. What good is replay review without good replay?
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(08-31-2019 10:51 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  This is my notes from the AAC board. Charlie took an 11 win team to one of the 5 worst programs in country in a little over a year.

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I apologize up front to the AAC for that debacle last night. That was the worst showing in USF history.

USF deserves to be kicked out of AAC.

USF may not win a game this year. At most 1 or 2 wins. That was beyond garbage.

Chuck Strong has taken a solid 11 win program and ran it into the ditch. I am embarrassed at how bad this program got so fast. He was given the keys to an upper echelon AAC team and turned it into the worst FBS program in the country. There aren't 5 worse programs in FBS right now.

7 straight losses, just about all of them big blowout losses.

Hiring Chuck Strong was just about the worst decision USF has ever made. His team has already quit. He can't motivate his way out of a paper bag. His teams are unorganized, commit stupid mistakes, and untimely penalties. If this continues, the AAC needs to boot us out and get back to 10 teams to have a championship game.

We deserve to be in FCS right now.

We will get absolutely pummeled in AAC play. I would be shocked if we somehow won more than 2 games.

We are the worst program in FBS right now. USF needs to cut it's losses and get rid of Strong. There is a reason Texas ran him out of town.

I've never seen such an unprepared USF team. Worst loss in program history. Nothing is changing under strong, we are getting worse and worse and worse. We are a laughingstock. Our program is in complete shambles and disarray. Our players are undisciplined and untalented. Things have spiraled out of control. There is no recovery.

End this NOW, or shut down the program!!!

I may not watch another USF game this year.

Charlie Strong's last 10 games (sans FCS opponent)
L 57-36 Houston
L 41-15 Tulane
L 35-23 Cincinnati
L 27-17 Temple
L 38-10 UCF
L 38-20 Marshall
L 49-0 Wisconsin
L 14-10 Georgia Tech (lost to The Citadel and Temple 24-2 next 2 weeks)
L 48-21 SMU
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(08-31-2019 11:12 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  I just remember a booster at Texas saying about Charlie Strong, that he is a nice guy that everyone likes, but in over his head as a head coach.

I am a bit shocked by a stronger G5 program with next level aspirations hiring a guy like Strong - this is more like the type of hire a Florida Atlantic or Florida International might be expected to make, it's the AD saying "I don;t know how to find a coach, so let's get a big name nobody else wants to make the donors happy".

I think USF and BYU are the two G5 schools that have to change coaches and now to be in the picture for 2025. Holmoe IMO needs to go outside the LDS community for a hire; they have to recruit non-Mormons like Lavell Edwards did with guys like Jim McMahon and many others, otherwise it's forever non-P status.

I wish BYU's admin could stomach (and pay up for) Mike Leach. He is a semi-active member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, although some reports suggest that he doesn't strictly follow the religion enough as what most think BYU's admin would desire or require (ie, hold a temple recommend).

BYU's starting quarterback and top-2 running backs are not members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (well, until Wilson's and Williams' injuries), though they live the Honor Code (no drinking, no unmarried sex). Jamaal Williams wasn't a member of the Church. Although, the majority of the roster are members, and in fact, most are even returned-missionaries.
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(10-02-2019 11:26 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Charlie Strong's last 10 games (sans FCS opponent)
L 57-36 Houston
L 41-15 Tulane
L 35-23 Cincinnati
L 27-17 Temple
L 38-10 UCF
L 38-20 Marshall
L 49-0 Wisconsin
L 14-10 Georgia Tech (lost to The Citadel and Temple 24-2 next 2 weeks)
L 48-21 SMU
A friend of mine in Tampa suggested that USF’s losing streak could be a kind of strange tribute to the expansion Buccaneers who lost 26 in a row back in the late ’70s. I asked about the win over the FCS team and he said “Well, even those old Bucs won a couple of exhibition games. Same thing!”
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(09-06-2019 10:46 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
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(08-31-2019 07:43 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  That's very telling. After finishing last season with 6 straight losses, you have to come out in the first game and play Wisconsin better than 0-49. This was at home. Not even a field goal. Chuck Weak has checked out and so has the team. He looks like Chip Jelly on the sidelines and going through the motions with a glazed look in his eyes. He'll be gone by the season's end and USF can go get a real coach. They did pretty good on the basketball hire.

Except that they hired Brian Gregory right after GT let him go. GT hired him right before Dayton fired him. BG: A nicer hoops Lane Kiffin.

Gregory has the hoops team trending majorly upward. USF is expected to contend for an NCAA bid this year and be a top 50 or so NET team.

He still sign more transfers than recruits? Still view offense as a thing that happens between defensive possessions?

I know Gregory struggled at Georgia Tech but he did pretty well overall in 8 seasons at Dayton. In today's coaching lifespans, 8 seasons is forever. Sometimes it's about fit and expectations and he's definitely got USF on the uptick. That is a program that has been on life support for a long time so any competitiveness and postseason he can bring will be huge.
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Off the court Gregory was perfect, he just couldn't recruit and had poor assistants. He did do one thing right though ... he owned UGAg.
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(10-03-2019 12:17 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Off the court Gregory was perfect, he just couldn't recruit and had poor assistants. He did do one thing right though ... he owned UGAg.
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