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Wall Street Journal includes UC as a Power team
The Wall Street Journal released their semi-annual College Football Grid of Shame.

They rated "each of the 64 schools in the five major conferences, plus a handful of other relevant programs." They 7 "other relevant programs" are UCF, Boise, Cincinnati, Army, BYU, SMU, and Notre Dame.


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X-axis is how good the team is expected to be. Left is Weakling & Right is Powerhouse
Y-axis is the Shame axis, or how the program stacks up morally. Top is Admirable & Bottom is Embarrassing.

[Image: B3-EV954_GRIDSH_16U_20190829173542.jpg]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/college-foo...1567091249
 
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Bottom two morally includes OSU and holier than thou Dantonio. Love it.

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Hmm... UCLA is on the powerhouse side of the graph and UC is a comparative weakling. Flying under the radar and surprising folks is so much fun. Interesting also that Louisville, though rated as a weakling, occupies a spot above neutral on the shame axis. Pity the schools whose morality rates below that of Louisville.
 
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The morality score depended on a lot of things:

"Shame is quantified using a weighted calculation of several football-related factors: academic performance, recent NCAA violations and probation, attendance figures, athletic-department subsidies and arrests of players and coaches.

There are some offenses so outside the lines, however, that they can’t quite be captured by numbers alone. That’s where the “ick factor” comes into play. Any school involved in a scandal, regardless of whether it happened during the last calendar year or directly implicated the university’s football program, takes a hit."
 
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How is The "U" above the shame line? I'd put them down by O$U.
 
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(08-31-2019 10:38 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  The Wall Street Journal released their semi-annual College Football Grid of Shame.

They rated "each of the 64 schools in the five major conferences, plus a handful of other relevant programs." They 7 "other relevant programs" are UCF, Boise, Cincinnati, Army, BYU, SMU, and Notre Dame.


Labels didn't copy...
X-axis is how good the team is expected to be. Left is Weakling & Right is Powerhouse
Y-axis is the Shame axis, or how the program stacks up morally. Top is Admirable & Bottom is Embarrassing.

[Image: B3-EV954_GRIDSH_16U_20190829173542.jpg]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/college-foo...1567091249

Since the WSJ included us...does that mean we get an additional $30M in TV revenue?
 
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So your classic good vs evil, david vs goliath matchup in Columbus next Saturday? Let's go baby.
 
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How is Notre Dame above the neutral line on morality??? They’ve had all kinds of dumb scandals and they killed a kid!
 
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(09-02-2019 10:21 PM)Nothereforit Wrote:  How is Notre Dame above the neutral line on morality??? They’ve had all kinds of dumb scandals and they killed a kid!

Are you referring to former Notre Dame player Cierre Wood killing a 5 year old this summer? He graduated in 2012.

Or are you referring to the video coordinator who died when a hydraulic lift blew over in high winds? That happened in 2011.

Either way, they're both ancient history.
 
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Hmmm, visually there appears to be a correlation between low morals and winning, though only for certain programs.
 
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(09-03-2019 09:12 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(09-02-2019 10:21 PM)Nothereforit Wrote:  How is Notre Dame above the neutral line on morality??? They’ve had all kinds of dumb scandals and they killed a kid!

Are you referring to former Notre Dame player Cierre Wood killing a 5 year old this summer? He graduated in 2012.

Or are you referring to the video coordinator who died when a hydraulic lift blew over in high winds? That happened in 2011.

Either way, they're both ancient history.

Also a defensive lineman raping a girl who eventually took her own life as a result of the ensuing coverup. There have been others during BK’s tenure as well.
 
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(09-03-2019 12:59 PM)Nothereforit Wrote:  
(09-03-2019 09:12 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(09-02-2019 10:21 PM)Nothereforit Wrote:  How is Notre Dame above the neutral line on morality??? They’ve had all kinds of dumb scandals and they killed a kid!

Are you referring to former Notre Dame player Cierre Wood killing a 5 year old this summer? He graduated in 2012.

Or are you referring to the video coordinator who died when a hydraulic lift blew over in high winds? That happened in 2011.

Either way, they're both ancient history.

Also a defensive lineman raping a girl who eventually took her own life as a result of the ensuing coverup. There have been others during BK’s tenure as well.

How about Manti Te'o and his fake girlfriend in 2012? That one still give me a chuckle! The Irish breed integrity into their players. 03-lmfao
 
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(08-31-2019 01:51 PM)colohank Wrote:  Hmm... UCLA is on the powerhouse side of the graph and UC is a comparative weakling. Flying under the radar and surprising folks is so much fun. Interesting also that Louisville, though rated as a weakling, occupies a spot above neutral on the shame axis. Pity the schools whose morality rates below that of Louisville.

I think being projected behind UCLA was an insult. We beat them at their own place, last year, and have the nucleus of that team returning.

I am tired of being "under the radar". UC has earned its keep 04-rock
 
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(09-03-2019 09:12 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(09-02-2019 10:21 PM)Nothereforit Wrote:  How is Notre Dame above the neutral line on morality??? They’ve had all kinds of dumb scandals and they killed a kid!

Are you referring to former Notre Dame player Cierre Wood killing a 5 year old this summer? He graduated in 2012.

Or are you referring to the video coordinator who died when a hydraulic lift blew over in high winds? That happened in 2011.

Either way, they're both ancient history.

Well in basketball, UC's so-called "Huggs Thugs" as been ousted, well over a decade. To this day, many still give us grief over it. So, cannot bring myself to have sympathy for the others.

BTW, the so-called "Huggs Thugs" never resulted in any deaths.
 
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(09-01-2019 12:57 PM)Ragpicker Wrote:  
(08-31-2019 10:38 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  The Wall Street Journal released their semi-annual College Football Grid of Shame.

They rated "each of the 64 schools in the five major conferences, plus a handful of other relevant programs." They 7 "other relevant programs" are UCF, Boise, Cincinnati, Army, BYU, SMU, and Notre Dame.


Labels didn't copy...
X-axis is how good the team is expected to be. Left is Weakling & Right is Powerhouse
Y-axis is the Shame axis, or how the program stacks up morally. Top is Admirable & Bottom is Embarrassing.

[Image: B3-EV954_GRIDSH_16U_20190829173542.jpg]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/college-foo...1567091249

Since the WSJ included us...does that mean we get an additional $30M in TV revenue?

We should send the WSJ to the realignment meetings. Can't do any worse than we have so far.
 
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(09-01-2019 07:47 PM)DownOnRohs Wrote:  So your classic good vs evil, david vs goliath matchup in Columbus next Saturday? Let's go baby.

Corso will most likely chant "GO OHIO STATE", as he did at halftime in 2002.
 
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This is a stupid graph. Did anyone read the article?

The graph says that Bearcats are losers this year, but they are admirable losers. WTF?

B.S. The team power rating is based on the pre-season poll, which especially this year is garbage. Bearcats were ranked what - 34th in the country?
No Way! The arrow to Alabama is the most powerful pre-season ranking.
The arrow towards Oregon State is the weakest team in pre-season ratings. The arrow pointing toward Tennessee is for shamefulness,
whatever that is.
But our Bearcats at the top are admirable.

From the 2016 WSJ Grid of Shame article (Bearcats aren't in this chart):
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For admirability "We begin with cold numbers, a weighted calculation of academic performance, recent NCAA violations and probation, attendance figures, athletic-department subsidies and player arrests. Schools were also dinged if they have a dubious history with injury mismanagement—like the handful of programs involved in concussion-related lawsuits."

If this table is so noble, why is Miami(OH) on it? And how the heck the RedH's aren't at the extreme lower left? Like right next to Kansas?
Why are Tenn and USC more powerful than UC?
Please, don't buy the WSJ for the sports section.

Really, is DuaneNorman back, again?
 
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(09-03-2019 08:16 PM)CoachFickFan Wrote:  This is a stupid graph. Did anyone read the article?

The graph says that Bearcats are losers this year, but they are admirable losers. WTF?

B.S. The team power rating is based on the pre-season poll, which especially this year is garbage. Bearcats were ranked what - 34th in the country?
No Way! The arrow to Alabama is the most powerful pre-season ranking.
The arrow towards Oregon State is the weakest team in pre-season ratings. The arrow pointing toward Tennessee is for shamefulness,
whatever that is.
But our Bearcats at the top are admirable.

From the 2016 WSJ Grid of Shame article (Bearcats aren't in this chart):
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For admirability "We begin with cold numbers, a weighted calculation of academic performance, recent NCAA violations and probation, attendance figures, athletic-department subsidies and player arrests. Schools were also dinged if they have a dubious history with injury mismanagement—like the handful of programs involved in concussion-related lawsuits."

If this table is so noble, why is Miami(OH) on it? And how the heck the RedH's aren't at the extreme lower left? Like right next to Kansas?
Why are Tenn and USC more powerful than UC?
Please, don't buy the WSJ for the sports section.

Really, is DuaneNorman back, again?

I think the Red M is for Maryland.
 
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This is interesting. A person in the Athletic dept told me there is a belief that the next re-alignment will be to get to a Power 64. Hopefully, the WSJ is onto something.
 
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(09-03-2019 08:48 PM)Z-Fly Wrote:  
(09-03-2019 08:16 PM)CoachFickFan Wrote:  This is a stupid graph. Did anyone read the article?

The graph says that Bearcats are losers this year, but they are admirable losers. WTF?

B.S. The team power rating is based on the pre-season poll, which especially this year is garbage. Bearcats were ranked what - 34th in the country?
No Way! The arrow to Alabama is the most powerful pre-season ranking.
The arrow towards Oregon State is the weakest team in pre-season ratings. The arrow pointing toward Tennessee is for shamefulness,
whatever that is.
But our Bearcats at the top are admirable.

From the 2016 WSJ Grid of Shame article (Bearcats aren't in this chart):
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For admirability "We begin with cold numbers, a weighted calculation of academic performance, recent NCAA violations and probation, attendance figures, athletic-department subsidies and player arrests. Schools were also dinged if they have a dubious history with injury mismanagement—like the handful of programs involved in concussion-related lawsuits."

If this table is so noble, why is Miami(OH) on it? And how the heck the RedH's aren't at the extreme lower left? Like right next to Kansas?
Why are Tenn and USC more powerful than UC?
Please, don't buy the WSJ for the sports section.

Really, is DuaneNorman back, again?

I think the Red M is for Maryland.


You're right Romell.

I was trying to figure out what the line under the M was.
It is a skinny Maryland Flag.
Thanx
 
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