(08-30-2019 02:53 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 12:19 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  If we divided this conference in half, the bottom half and the top half, then at least the top half wouldn’t be the worst FBS conference......

Tonight’s performance was just spewing chunks. And one of the rape victims, against Toolame no less, was picked by some genius on here to go like 12 and 1. SMH....

Where would you draw the line? Last year's champion almost lost to an FCS school last night. I'm not sure there is a top and bottom half. Does a pile of **** have any sides?

Alabama State hardly qualifies as FCS.

(08-30-2019 08:33 AM)TTT Wrote:  Yeah yeah "it's early in the season" "you're overreacting" "crazy things happen early in the season" yada yada etc.

I said it last year and I'm saying it again. In the current times, this version of CUSA 3.0 is the WORST CUSA has ever been in it's existence and by far we're the worst conference in college football right now, or at least tied for worst. If Southern Miss doesn't win CUSA this year then we won't ever win again.

Every year it's just another wave of feels...USM with it's terrible TV market, no big fancy airports, small population city/state, in the shadow of the SEC...we're destined to be in this terrible conference.

The only thing I can think of is for CUSA's best to merge w/ the Sun Belt's best and form an entire new league w/ a different name for branding:

SOUTHERN DIVISION
Southern Miss
La Tech
North Texas
Troy
ULL

NORTHERN DIVISION
UAB
Marshall
App State
Ark State
MTSU

See I think the C-USA's best should merge with the Sun Belt's best....

(08-30-2019 01:28 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  These were the days, boys.

Even during those days CUSA was behind the MW and in some years also the WAC and the MAC.

(08-30-2019 08:33 AM)TTT Wrote:  Yeah yeah "it's early in the season" "you're overreacting" "crazy things happen early in the season" yada yada etc.

I said it last year and I'm saying it again. In the current times, this version of CUSA 3.0 is the WORST CUSA has ever been in it's existence and by far we're the worst conference in college football right now, or at least tied for worst. If Southern Miss doesn't win CUSA this year then we won't ever win again.

Every year it's just another wave of feels...USM with it's terrible TV market, no big fancy airports, small population city/state, in the shadow of the SEC...we're destined to be in this terrible conference.

The only thing I can think of is for CUSA's best to merge w/ the Sun Belt's best and form an entire new league w/ a different name for branding:

SOUTHERN DIVISION
Southern Miss
La Tech
North Texas
Troy
ULL

NORTHERN DIVISION
UAB
Marshall
App State
Ark State
MTSU

Sorry, but stuff like this always makes me chuckle, and so many on this page seem to take it and run with, going on and on about possible mergers. Most who do this kind of stuff don't think about the fact that most G5 programs are up and down, that it all works in cycles. Look at North Texas for example. They're strong right now, and they're building facilities and all. But if they lose their coach anytime soon, it might be back to where they were, which prior to the last 2 years, was 1 winning season in 12 years. They may not fall quite that far down again with the new facilities, but you get the point.

You guys take these things from a snapshot in time and seem to think things will stay status quo. Just doesn't work that way. Trending up or down doesn't mean as much as overall consistency or lack thereof. It's like the weather vs. climate debate.

(08-30-2019 01:28 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 01:17 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 12:45 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 12:11 PM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 11:01 AM)Tintin Wrote:  The irony is
1). This ain’t never going to happen, it’s just USM fans throwing shade because their school is going backwards
2). And if this ever happened, USM would be the school all these other schools would be bitching about.

You don't get out much. Visit the SBC board sometimes and see who are the top couple teams they want to join if there is a realignment between CUSA and SBC. It's the same schools that were the reason most of the SBC teams in CUSA are here.

No one that makes real decisions on these issues give two ***** what fanbases, especially the internet fans, think. SunBelt and CUSA team fans can put their fantasy leagues together all they want and not one university president will give a damn if those schools good in football don't also meet their standards off the field too. That's just the way it is.

They will give a damn if it saves them millions in travel expenses. Overhead will be the driving force come time. More so than on the field or off the field performance.

UNCC has a pretty broad selection of programs, but the level of education is comparable to App. I see evidence of this every day in the private sector.

Also, I was accepted to UNCC as well as App. I visited both campuses and made my decision.

I would hope the level of education for two in system schools would be the same when the Board of Governors puts us all on the same $ per student starvation diet to feed the Beast in Chapel Hill, but breadth of programs and research status is also import to university leaders.

Travel expenses are not a major issue to every G5 school and I doubt it will be big enough to force a realignment on its own. The next realignment will be caused by the same thing all of them have been caused by for the last 2 decades. Movements from the top.

True. However, travel expenses are an issue to most of CUSA and the SB. Overhead and of course regional matchups will be the motive. Academic standards, at our level, probably not.

AD's have "fantasy leagues", trust me. If you are a president or AD in CUSA or SB and were not intrigued by the benefits of realignment, I would question your competency.

(08-30-2019 01:38 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 08:33 AM)TTT Wrote:  Yeah yeah "it's early in the season" "you're overreacting" "crazy things happen early in the season" yada yada etc.

I said it last year and I'm saying it again. In the current times, this version of CUSA 3.0 is the WORST CUSA has ever been in it's existence and by far we're the worst conference in college football right now, or at least tied for worst. If Southern Miss doesn't win CUSA this year then we won't ever win again.

Every year it's just another wave of feels...USM with it's terrible TV market, no big fancy airports, small population city/state, in the shadow of the SEC...we're destined to be in this terrible conference.

The only thing I can think of is for CUSA's best to merge w/ the Sun Belt's best and form an entire new league w/ a different name for branding:

SOUTHERN DIVISION
Southern Miss
La Tech
North Texas
Troy
ULL

NORTHERN DIVISION
UAB
Marshall
App State
Ark State
MTSU

Sorry, but stuff like this always makes me chuckle, and so many on this page seem to take it and run with, going on and on about possible mergers. Most who do this kind of stuff don't think about the fact that most G5 programs are up and down, that it all works in cycles. Look at North Texas for example. They're strong right now, and they're building facilities and all. But if they lose their coach anytime soon, it might be back to where they were, which prior to the last 2 years, was 1 winning season in 12 years. They may not fall quite that far down again with the new facilities, but you get the point.

You guys take this things from a particular point in time and seem to think things will stay status quo. Just doesn't work that way. Trending up or down doesn't mean as much as overall consistency or lack thereof. It's like the weather vs. climate debate.

I don't necessarily agree with that make up of universities, but it makes no sense for App to be in a conference with Texas St, and UNCC to be in a conference with you.

It would be like NC State being in the same conference as Texas, and UNC being in the same conference as A&M. We need to stop hemorrhaging money and playing games that nobody cares about.

(08-30-2019 01:31 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 08:33 AM)TTT Wrote:  Yeah yeah "it's early in the season" "you're overreacting" "crazy things happen early in the season" yada yada etc.

I said it last year and I'm saying it again. In the current times, this version of CUSA 3.0 is the WORST CUSA has ever been in it's existence and by far we're the worst conference in college football right now, or at least tied for worst. If Southern Miss doesn't win CUSA this year then we won't ever win again.

Every year it's just another wave of feels...USM with it's terrible TV market, no big fancy airports, small population city/state, in the shadow of the SEC...we're destined to be in this terrible conference.

The only thing I can think of is for CUSA's best to merge w/ the Sun Belt's best and form an entire new league w/ a different name for branding:

SOUTHERN DIVISION
Southern Miss
La Tech
North Texas
Troy
ULL

NORTHERN DIVISION
UAB
Marshall
App State
Ark State
MTSU

See I think the C-USA's best should merge with the Sun Belt's best....

I just don't see how you can include USM as one of the best with their performance in 3.0. I just dream of the day that they live up to their past. At least Marshall competes year in year out with the exception of one season.

(08-30-2019 01:34 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 01:28 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  These were the days, boys.

Even during those days CUSA was behind the MW and in some years also the WAC and the MAC.

We were, but mostly due to Boise State and TCU. Hawaii and Nevada each had one good year where they stood out, but outside of those schools (Fresno was mostly average, even though they tended to get a lot of discussion from talking heads), the leagues were fairly similar, if not CUSA better.

(08-30-2019 01:51 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 01:38 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 08:33 AM)TTT Wrote:  Yeah yeah "it's early in the season" "you're overreacting" "crazy things happen early in the season" yada yada etc.

I said it last year and I'm saying it again. In the current times, this version of CUSA 3.0 is the WORST CUSA has ever been in it's existence and by far we're the worst conference in college football right now, or at least tied for worst. If Southern Miss doesn't win CUSA this year then we won't ever win again.

Every year it's just another wave of feels...USM with it's terrible TV market, no big fancy airports, small population city/state, in the shadow of the SEC...we're destined to be in this terrible conference.

The only thing I can think of is for CUSA's best to merge w/ the Sun Belt's best and form an entire new league w/ a different name for branding:

SOUTHERN DIVISION
Southern Miss
La Tech
North Texas
Troy
ULL

NORTHERN DIVISION
UAB
Marshall
App State
Ark State
MTSU

Sorry, but stuff like this always makes me chuckle, and so many on this page seem to take it and run with, going on and on about possible mergers. Most who do this kind of stuff don't think about the fact that most G5 programs are up and down, that it all works in cycles. Look at North Texas for example. They're strong right now, and they're building facilities and all. But if they lose their coach anytime soon, it might be back to where they were, which prior to the last 2 years, was 1 winning season in 12 years. They may not fall quite that far down again with the new facilities, but you get the point.

You guys take this things from a particular point in time and seem to think things will stay status quo. Just doesn't work that way. Trending up or down doesn't mean as much as overall consistency or lack thereof. It's like the weather vs. climate debate.

I don't necessarily agree with that make up of universities, but it makes no sense for App to be in a conference with Texas St, and UNCC to be in a conference with you.

It would be like NC State being in the same conference as Texas, and UNC being in the same conference as A&M. We need to stop hemorrhaging money and playing games that nobody cares about.

During basketball season it makes sense.

(08-30-2019 12:13 PM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 12:10 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 10:24 AM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 07:10 AM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  If Marshall can't win this league this year, Doc needs the biggest kick in the ass ever given to a coach to convince him to "retire".

Im actually agreeing with 24 on this one. He’s had long enough.

It should be Marshall @ USM, no questions.

If it is, the you can take the last 3 CCG and add the attendance together, that will be the number of people at the game.

It'd be close, that's for sure.

(08-30-2019 02:03 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 01:51 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 01:38 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 08:33 AM)TTT Wrote:  Yeah yeah "it's early in the season" "you're overreacting" "crazy things happen early in the season" yada yada etc.

I said it last year and I'm saying it again. In the current times, this version of CUSA 3.0 is the WORST CUSA has ever been in it's existence and by far we're the worst conference in college football right now, or at least tied for worst. If Southern Miss doesn't win CUSA this year then we won't ever win again.

Every year it's just another wave of feels...USM with it's terrible TV market, no big fancy airports, small population city/state, in the shadow of the SEC...we're destined to be in this terrible conference.

The only thing I can think of is for CUSA's best to merge w/ the Sun Belt's best and form an entire new league w/ a different name for branding:

SOUTHERN DIVISION
Southern Miss
La Tech
North Texas
Troy
ULL

NORTHERN DIVISION
UAB
Marshall
App State
Ark State
MTSU

Sorry, but stuff like this always makes me chuckle, and so many on this page seem to take it and run with, going on and on about possible mergers. Most who do this kind of stuff don't think about the fact that most G5 programs are up and down, that it all works in cycles. Look at North Texas for example. They're strong right now, and they're building facilities and all. But if they lose their coach anytime soon, it might be back to where they were, which prior to the last 2 years, was 1 winning season in 12 years. They may not fall quite that far down again with the new facilities, but you get the point.

You guys take this things from a particular point in time and seem to think things will stay status quo. Just doesn't work that way. Trending up or down doesn't mean as much as overall consistency or lack thereof. It's like the weather vs. climate debate.

I don't necessarily agree with that make up of universities, but it makes no sense for App to be in a conference with Texas St, and UNCC to be in a conference with you.

It would be like NC State being in the same conference as Texas, and UNC being in the same conference as A&M. We need to stop hemorrhaging money and playing games that nobody cares about.

During basketball season it makes sense.

Really? Sending the men and women halfway across the country when they have numerous teams within driving distance. One cost more than the other. The level of play is pretty comparable, both producing one or at best two bids to the NCAA. How can you justify that?

(08-30-2019 02:12 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 02:03 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 01:51 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 01:38 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 08:33 AM)TTT Wrote:  Yeah yeah "it's early in the season" "you're overreacting" "crazy things happen early in the season" yada yada etc.

I said it last year and I'm saying it again. In the current times, this version of CUSA 3.0 is the WORST CUSA has ever been in it's existence and by far we're the worst conference in college football right now, or at least tied for worst. If Southern Miss doesn't win CUSA this year then we won't ever win again.

Every year it's just another wave of feels...USM with it's terrible TV market, no big fancy airports, small population city/state, in the shadow of the SEC...we're destined to be in this terrible conference.

The only thing I can think of is for CUSA's best to merge w/ the Sun Belt's best and form an entire new league w/ a different name for branding:

SOUTHERN DIVISION
Southern Miss
La Tech
North Texas
Troy
ULL

NORTHERN DIVISION
UAB
Marshall
App State
Ark State
MTSU

Sorry, but stuff like this always makes me chuckle, and so many on this page seem to take it and run with, going on and on about possible mergers. Most who do this kind of stuff don't think about the fact that most G5 programs are up and down, that it all works in cycles. Look at North Texas for example. They're strong right now, and they're building facilities and all. But if they lose their coach anytime soon, it might be back to where they were, which prior to the last 2 years, was 1 winning season in 12 years. They may not fall quite that far down again with the new facilities, but you get the point.

You guys take this things from a particular point in time and seem to think things will stay status quo. Just doesn't work that way. Trending up or down doesn't mean as much as overall consistency or lack thereof. It's like the weather vs. climate debate.

I don't necessarily agree with that make up of universities, but it makes no sense for App to be in a conference with Texas St, and UNCC to be in a conference with you.

It would be like NC State being in the same conference as Texas, and UNC being in the same conference as A&M. We need to stop hemorrhaging money and playing games that nobody cares about.

During basketball season it makes sense.

Really? Sending the men and women halfway across the country when they have numerous teams within driving distance. One cost more than the other. The level of play is pretty comparable, both producing one or at best two bids to the NCAA. How can you justify that?

What’s next? Do you want to trade Monroe for ECU?

How about this:

FOR STARTERS how about yall stop losing to teams like UMass, Maine, Central Arkansas, Northern Arizona, Liberty, Eastern Michigan, NC A&T...so if we lose to yall then it doesn't look so bad.

(08-30-2019 02:30 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 02:12 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 02:03 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 01:51 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 01:38 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  Sorry, but stuff like this always makes me chuckle, and so many on this page seem to take it and run with, going on and on about possible mergers. Most who do this kind of stuff don't think about the fact that most G5 programs are up and down, that it all works in cycles. Look at North Texas for example. They're strong right now, and they're building facilities and all. But if they lose their coach anytime soon, it might be back to where they were, which prior to the last 2 years, was 1 winning season in 12 years. They may not fall quite that far down again with the new facilities, but you get the point.

You guys take this things from a particular point in time and seem to think things will stay status quo. Just doesn't work that way. Trending up or down doesn't mean as much as overall consistency or lack thereof. It's like the weather vs. climate debate.

I don't necessarily agree with that make up of universities, but it makes no sense for App to be in a conference with Texas St, and UNCC to be in a conference with you.

It would be like NC State being in the same conference as Texas, and UNC being in the same conference as A&M. We need to stop hemorrhaging money and playing games that nobody cares about.

During basketball season it makes sense.

Really? Sending the men and women halfway across the country when they have numerous teams within driving distance. One cost more than the other. The level of play is pretty comparable, both producing one or at best two bids to the NCAA. How can you justify that?

What’s next? Do you want to trade Monroe for ECU?

No. ECU is off the table. They are not touching any of us.

What I and so many others are proposing is so logical. Explain to me why you should spend money to travel to NC, VA, and WVA to compete at the same level you can in Ark, La, and Ala?

clt really wishes the lowly sunbelt had a chat page

(08-30-2019 02:32 PM)TTT Wrote:  How about this:

FOR STARTERS how about yall stop losing to teams like UMass, Maine, Central Arkansas, Northern Arizona, Liberty, Eastern Michigan, NC A&T...so if we lose to yall then it doesn't look so bad.

If they are losing to them you shouldn't be losing to 3.0 with your storied program.

(08-30-2019 02:40 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 02:30 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 02:12 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 02:03 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 01:51 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  I don't necessarily agree with that make up of universities, but it makes no sense for App to be in a conference with Texas St, and UNCC to be in a conference with you.

It would be like NC State being in the same conference as Texas, and UNC being in the same conference as A&M. We need to stop hemorrhaging money and playing games that nobody cares about.

During basketball season it makes sense.

Really? Sending the men and women halfway across the country when they have numerous teams within driving distance. One cost more than the other. The level of play is pretty comparable, both producing one or at best two bids to the NCAA. How can you justify that?

What’s next? Do you want to trade Monroe for ECU?

No. ECU is off the table. They are not touching any of us.

What I and so many others are proposing is so logical. Explain to me why you should spend money to travel to NC, VA, and WVA to compete at the same level you can in Ark, La, and Ala?

Exposure in the eastern time zone.

We already have the best basketball teams not in power leagues from La and Alabama. Arkansas isn’t known for basketball. I wouldn’t give up games against Marshall, Charlotte, and ODU to play Monroe, Arkansas St, and South Alabama

Unless a full blown G5 realignment takes place I’m not interested. Merging the SB and CUSA by region wouldn’t fix much. It would create two sucky bus leagues. I’m fine where we’re at.

Interesting thread.
Always fun to fantasize.

The truth is no one wants to merge with CUSA. Even with the teams that (for now) are successful. Agree that regionalization makes sense, to save travel costs and to generate some more fan interest....but with no proven major tv markets, there’s no $$ in it. And that’s the key.

(08-30-2019 02:50 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 02:40 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 02:30 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 02:12 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 02:03 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  During basketball season it makes sense.

Really? Sending the men and women halfway across the country when they have numerous teams within driving distance. One cost more than the other. The level of play is pretty comparable, both producing one or at best two bids to the NCAA. How can you justify that?

What’s next? Do you want to trade Monroe for ECU?

No. ECU is off the table. They are not touching any of us.

What I and so many others are proposing is so logical. Explain to me why you should spend money to travel to NC, VA, and WVA to compete at the same level you can in Ark, La, and Ala?

Exposure in the eastern time zone.

We already have the best basketball teams not in power leagues from La and Alabama. Arkansas isn’t known for basketball. I wouldn’t give up games against Marshall, Charlotte, and ODU to play Monroe, Arkansas St, and South Alabama

Unless a full blown G5 realignment takes place I’m not interested. Merging the SB and CUSA by region wouldn’t fix much. It would create two sucky bus leagues. I’m fine where we’re at.

BTW, condolences. I hope your community is starting to heal.

I have a feel your AD would disagree. Especially when he has to cut checks for the volleyball team to travel to NC.

Merging would fix so much. Two issues plaguing most G5's are travel expenses and meaning full matchups. Y'all are on the outer edge, so regional matchups really can't be fixed. On this side we have too many teams that jump over each other to compete. I think it's something that our AD's can't ignore.

(08-29-2019 11:43 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  

(08-29-2019 11:35 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  We know we are the worst FBS conference. But are any FCS leagues better than us this season?

To early to tell. CUSA has some good programs, also some very weak ones.

Before last night I would have agreed with you, except I would have said, "good teams", rather than "programs". Not to insult, but to clarify.

After last night, I can't call UAB or FIU "good teams" anymore. That leaves us hoping USM, North Texas, Marshall and FAU (and maybe La Tech and MTSU) can be "good".