Football would join the independents.

FFS, this is worse than the usual Colorado-Mesa to the Big 12 threads. Why would two core ACC members do that?

Uh......no.

Because the conference is a lot less basketball centered than it used to be, and UNC & Duke have lost a lot of political power in the ACC (see Miami-VT expansion & UL replacing Maryland instead of UConn.

I say yes.

(08-29-2019 07:24 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  Because the conference is a lot less basketball centered than it used to be, and UNC & Duke have lost a lot of political power in the ACC (see Miami-VT expansion & UL replacing Maryland instead of UConn.

But why would they want to orphan their football programs in order to go to a lesser basketball conference, receive less money and also a downgrade in pretty much every other sport as well?

Oh boy, glad FB is going in full swing soon

(08-29-2019 07:24 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  Because the conference is a lot less basketball centered than it used to be, and UNC & Duke have lost a lot of political power in the ACC (see Miami-VT expansion & UL replacing Maryland instead of UConn.

Have you watched the ACCN yet?
4pm:. Coach K takes his grandkids for Ice Cream
5pm:. Roy goes through his socks drawer to decide what pair he won't wear for tomorrow

(08-29-2019 08:12 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(08-29-2019 07:24 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  Because the conference is a lot less basketball centered than it used to be, and UNC & Duke have lost a lot of political power in the ACC (see Miami-VT expansion & UL replacing Maryland instead of UConn.

But why would they want to orphan their football programs in order to go to a lesser basketball conference, receive less money and also a downgrade in pretty much every other sport as well?

They won't period. You can't run the level of AD that UNC does without significant revenue.

UNC will never have to relegate themselves to the Big East. They could easily go to the B1G or SEC if they chose, even if there was a shift with football in coming decades. The academic associations would be ideal for UNC in the B1G, but the athletic departments and footprint would similarly be optimal in the SEC.

For Duke, there is a small, very small, possibility of ever being moved to the Big East. For starters, the ACC would have to implode (which will not happen for another 10-12 years, if not ever); then, the Privates would have to be locked out of the B1G/SEC. Only then, and with a grouping of say Duke, Wake Forest, Notre Dame, Syracuse, Pittsburgh and Boston College, ever consider it - but, even then, they still would have enough members to create an elite academic/football playing league that would likely command more, if not the exact same, as the Big East. Perhaps another football/non-football hybrid would fetch more money and revenue, but then you're looking at an 18+ member hybrid league, comprised of almost entirely private institutions (with exception to UConn, of course).

IMO, there is a greater likelihood of a national Private athletic/academic conference being formed among the likes of Notre Dame, Stanford, Duke, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Boston College, Wake Forest, SMU, Tulane and the service academies than a Private-school exodus to the Big East. Too many things simply have to occur for it to even be considered, and even if a number of those things occurred, the entire model likely adjusts in itself to ever reach that point.

Yeah Temple and Cincinnati are replacing them in the ACC I hear

(08-29-2019 12:39 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  Football would join the independents.

*sigh*

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I thought the crazy off season threads were done and over with.

Is the fake rumor contest still going on?

No, I do look for the ACC to split, pick up a couple more more schools (WVU) and form two 8-10 team conferences. The originals are not liking the newcomers at all.


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(08-29-2019 03:11 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  No, I do look for the ACC to split, pick up a couple more more schools (WVU) and form two 8-10 team conferences. The originals are not liking the newcomers at all.

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that, or for anyone to leave the ACC, given that the ACC has about 15 years remaining on its grant of rights agreement.

(08-29-2019 02:05 PM)TardisCaptain Wrote:  Is the fake rumor contest still going on?

Lol, great post!!!

(08-29-2019 12:39 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  Football would join the independents.

(08-29-2019 12:39 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  Football would join the independents.

This.
No question.

(08-29-2019 12:39 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  Football would join the independents.

When UNC and Duke join the Big East for allsports, the ACC needs to keep their football in-conference. Those football names add value and eyeballs. Pay no attention to the 3-5 and 1-7 conference records. Any other decision would be wounded pride and ego.