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Children of US Troops Born Overseas No Longer Automatic American Citizens
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Children born to U.S. service members and government employees overseas will no longer be automatically considered citizens of the United States, according to policy alert issued by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) on Wednesday.

"The policy change explains that we will not consider children who live abroad with their parents to be residing in the United States even if their parents are U.S. government employees or U.S. service members stationed outside of the United States, and as a result, these children will no longer be considered to have acquired citizenship automatically," USCIS spokesperson Meredith Parker told Task & Purpose on Wednesday, when asked how the policy changes how the government views children of U.S. service members.

"For them to obtain a Certificate of Citizenship, their U.S. citizen parent must apply for citizenship on their behalf," she added. The process under INA 322 must be completed before the child's 18th birthday.
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(08-28-2019 06:03 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019...nship.html

Children born to U.S. service members and government employees overseas will no longer be automatically considered citizens of the United States, according to policy alert issued by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) on Wednesday.

"The policy change explains that we will not consider children who live abroad with their parents to be residing in the United States even if their parents are U.S. government employees or U.S. service members stationed outside of the United States, and as a result, these children will no longer be considered to have acquired citizenship automatically," USCIS spokesperson Meredith Parker told Task & Purpose on Wednesday, when asked how the policy changes how the government views children of U.S. service members.

"For them to obtain a Certificate of Citizenship, their U.S. citizen parent must apply for citizenship on their behalf," she added. The process under INA 322 must be completed before the child's 18th birthday.

So what. I Have a friend who was born in a South America country while his father was in the CIA. He had to declare US citizenship at 18 to keep from being drafted into that country's military and being a citizen there.

File under wgaf.
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(08-28-2019 06:03 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019...nship.html

Children born to U.S. service members and government employees overseas will no longer be automatically considered citizens of the United States, according to policy alert issued by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) on Wednesday.

"The policy change explains that we will not consider children who live abroad with their parents to be residing in the United States even if their parents are U.S. government employees or U.S. service members stationed outside of the United States, and as a result, these children will no longer be considered to have acquired citizenship automatically," USCIS spokesperson Meredith Parker told Task & Purpose on Wednesday, when asked how the policy changes how the government views children of U.S. service members.

"For them to obtain a Certificate of Citizenship, their U.S. citizen parent must apply for citizenship on their behalf," she added. The process under INA 322 must be completed before the child's 18th birthday.

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"This only affects children who were born outside the United States and were not U.S. citizens. This does NOT impact birthright citizenship. This policy update does not deny citizenship to the children of US government employees or members of the military born abroad," he added, though Task & Purpose did not report that citizenship would be denied. "This policy aligns USCIS' process with the Department of State's procedure, that's it.
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(08-28-2019 06:47 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(08-28-2019 06:03 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019...nship.html

Children born to U.S. service members and government employees overseas will no longer be automatically considered citizens of the United States, according to policy alert issued by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) on Wednesday.

"The policy change explains that we will not consider children who live abroad with their parents to be residing in the United States even if their parents are U.S. government employees or U.S. service members stationed outside of the United States, and as a result, these children will no longer be considered to have acquired citizenship automatically," USCIS spokesperson Meredith Parker told Task & Purpose on Wednesday, when asked how the policy changes how the government views children of U.S. service members.

"For them to obtain a Certificate of Citizenship, their U.S. citizen parent must apply for citizenship on their behalf," she added. The process under INA 322 must be completed before the child's 18th birthday.

Read before you post.

"This only affects children who were born outside the United States and were not U.S. citizens. This does NOT impact birthright citizenship. This policy update does not deny citizenship to the children of US government employees or members of the military born abroad," he added, though Task & Purpose did not report that citizenship would be denied. "This policy aligns USCIS' process with the Department of State's procedure, that's it.

Then it wouldn't fit his narrative.
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(08-28-2019 06:03 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019...nship.html

Children born to U.S. service members and government employees overseas will no longer be automatically considered citizens of the United States, according to policy alert issued by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) on Wednesday.

"The policy change explains that we will not consider children who live abroad with their parents to be residing in the United States even if their parents are U.S. government employees or U.S. service members stationed outside of the United States, and as a result, these children will no longer be considered to have acquired citizenship automatically," USCIS spokesperson Meredith Parker told Task & Purpose on Wednesday, when asked how the policy changes how the government views children of U.S. service members.

"For them to obtain a Certificate of Citizenship, their U.S. citizen parent must apply for citizenship on their behalf," she added. The process under INA 322 must be completed before the child's 18th birthday.

Thats going the wrong way. Why cant we just use common sense. If they are the children of a US citizen---they are citizens. If you are in the US illegally and give birth---the child shold not be an automatic US citizen. You shouldnt get free citizenship because your parents broke the law. Those two common sense rules would be a good start.
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(08-28-2019 06:11 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(08-28-2019 06:03 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019...nship.html

Children born to U.S. service members and government employees overseas will no longer be automatically considered citizens of the United States, according to policy alert issued by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) on Wednesday.

"The policy change explains that we will not consider children who live abroad with their parents to be residing in the United States even if their parents are U.S. government employees or U.S. service members stationed outside of the United States, and as a result, these children will no longer be considered to have acquired citizenship automatically," USCIS spokesperson Meredith Parker told Task & Purpose on Wednesday, when asked how the policy changes how the government views children of U.S. service members.

"For them to obtain a Certificate of Citizenship, their U.S. citizen parent must apply for citizenship on their behalf," she added. The process under INA 322 must be completed before the child's 18th birthday.

So what. I Have a friend who was born in a South America country while his father was in the CIA. He had to declare US citizenship at 18 to keep from being drafted into that country's military and being a citizen there.

File under wgaf.

No kidding, my youngest brother was born in Italy and had to declare Italian or U.S. citizenship when he turned 18.
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I'm not sure what is the substantive change here. They have to declare by 18. They still have to declare by 18. It's a semantic change, but I'm not sure how meaningful.
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(08-28-2019 06:42 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

Yikes, duped yet again by his bias.

This kind of thing rarely if ever happens to me, yet it happens with FBO constantly. Perhaps he needs a healthier news diet? It’s said that conservatives get their news from both conservative and liberal sources, while leftists only get their news from the left. This is the result.

Just in case he hadn’t heard, the “Russian co-signer” story was also fake. Just, FYI.
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I can't remember......who was it that had FBO in the "Next leftist handwringer to be duped by fake news" pool? I just know it wasn't me, even though I should have picked him.
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(08-28-2019 10:20 PM)Kronke Wrote:  
(08-28-2019 06:42 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

Yikes, duped yet again by his bias.

This kind of thing rarely if ever happens to me, yet it happens with FBO constantly. Perhaps he needs a healthier news diet? It’s said that conservatives get their news from both conservative and liberal sources, while leftists only get their news from the left. This is the result.

Just in case he hadn’t heard, the “Russian co-signer” story was also fake. Just, FYI.

When was the last time Crimson posted a link from a liberal source?

You're saying military.com is a leftist site? Okay then.
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(08-29-2019 05:20 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  
(08-28-2019 10:20 PM)Kronke Wrote:  
(08-28-2019 06:42 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

Yikes, duped yet again by his bias.

This kind of thing rarely if ever happens to me, yet it happens with FBO constantly. Perhaps he needs a healthier news diet? It’s said that conservatives get their news from both conservative and liberal sources, while leftists only get their news from the left. This is the result.

Just in case he hadn’t heard, the “Russian co-signer” story was also fake. Just, FYI.

When was the last time Crimson posted a link from a liberal source?

You're saying military.com is a leftist site? Okay then.

Crimson is 1 poster why do you equate him to millions of others. You got duped probably by some leftist on social media that Evil Trump revoked auto citizenship for kids of service members etc.
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Crimson posts enough posts here to be equated to millions. All of them coming from looney-bin right-wing sites. Yet no one ever calls him out for the nonsense he posts.
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(08-29-2019 06:10 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Crimson posts enough posts here to be equated to millions. All of them coming from looney-bin right-wing sites. Yet no one ever calls him out for the nonsense he posts.

Nope he is one person, no more. If you think he posts something as fact that isn't factual point it out.
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(08-29-2019 06:10 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Crimson posts enough posts here to be equated to millions. All of them coming from looney-bin right-wing sites. Yet no one ever calls him out for the nonsense he posts.

Then as someone who opposes his view why not call him out?
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(08-29-2019 06:10 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Crimson posts enough posts here to be equated to millions. All of them coming from looney-bin right-wing sites. Yet no one ever calls him out for the nonsense he posts.

Total bs. Fox and ny post are not looney bin
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To be fair, FBO isn't the only one who was duped by this story and others like it. Hopefully he realizes though that had no one challenged either of these stories, this one and O’Donnell's, they would have held up as truth in the eyes of the left. Sadly, for someone who hasn't seen the corrections these stories still represent the truth, so mission accomplished.
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(08-28-2019 06:03 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019...nship.html

Children born to U.S. service members and government employees overseas will no longer be automatically considered citizens of the United States, according to policy alert issued by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) on Wednesday.

"The policy change explains that we will not consider children who live abroad with their parents to be residing in the United States even if their parents are U.S. government employees or U.S. service members stationed outside of the United States, and as a result, these children will no longer be considered to have acquired citizenship automatically," USCIS spokesperson Meredith Parker told Task & Purpose on Wednesday, when asked how the policy changes how the government views children of U.S. service members.

"For them to obtain a Certificate of Citizenship, their U.S. citizen parent must apply for citizenship on their behalf," she added. The process under INA 322 must be completed before the child's 18th birthday.
In any case the person has 18 years to complete this.. How people who don't do this or start the process then complain when they're in trouble completely baffles me.
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When will FBO recant and change the thread title or at the least amend it to include in big bold letters at the end the word DEBUNKED?
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(08-29-2019 08:06 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  When will FBO recant and change the thread title or at the least amend it to include in big bold letters at the end the word DEBUNKED?

Won't.. Too busy to say Crimson is worse or why it takes longer than 18 years to file papers for citizenship.
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