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(09-06-2019 02:20 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  I will say, however, that there's no advantage or disadvantage to having an even number of conference games per team vs. an odd number.

I disagree. With an odd number of conference games you have built in scheduling imbalances where half the teams have more road conference games than the other half. Home field advantage might be a small factor but it is a factor, so each year you are handicapping half of your teams in league play.
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(09-12-2019 04:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-06-2019 02:20 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  I will say, however, that there's no advantage or disadvantage to having an even number of conference games per team vs. an odd number.

I disagree. With an odd number of conference games you have built in scheduling imbalances where half the teams have more road conference games than the other half. Home field advantage might be a small factor but it is a factor, so each year you are handicapping half of your teams in league play.

Right, but it's balanced out the next year.
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(09-12-2019 06:25 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 04:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-06-2019 02:20 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  I will say, however, that there's no advantage or disadvantage to having an even number of conference games per team vs. an odd number.

I disagree. With an odd number of conference games you have built in scheduling imbalances where half the teams have more road conference games than the other half. Home field advantage might be a small factor but it is a factor, so each year you are handicapping half of your teams in league play.

Right, but it's balanced out the next year.

Not really. When you have a senior laden team this year but have five conference road games having five conference home games the next season when you are rebuilding doesn't balance things out.
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(09-13-2019 11:23 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 06:25 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 04:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-06-2019 02:20 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  I will say, however, that there's no advantage or disadvantage to having an even number of conference games per team vs. an odd number.

I disagree. With an odd number of conference games you have built in scheduling imbalances where half the teams have more road conference games than the other half. Home field advantage might be a small factor but it is a factor, so each year you are handicapping half of your teams in league play.

Right, but it's balanced out the next year.

Not really. When you have a senior laden team this year but have five conference road games having five conference home games the next season when you are rebuilding doesn't balance things out.

+1

I don't know why the Big Ten, Big XII and Pac-12 haven't figured this out yet... 9 conference games is a bad idea (10 is better in some ways, but with 12 total games you're definitely better off with 8 conference and 4 non-conference).
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RE: Arkansas-Missouri game will move to Arrowhead Stadium in 2020
(09-13-2019 11:59 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(09-13-2019 11:23 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 06:25 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 04:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-06-2019 02:20 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  I will say, however, that there's no advantage or disadvantage to having an even number of conference games per team vs. an odd number.

I disagree. With an odd number of conference games you have built in scheduling imbalances where half the teams have more road conference games than the other half. Home field advantage might be a small factor but it is a factor, so each year you are handicapping half of your teams in league play.

Right, but it's balanced out the next year.

Not really. When you have a senior laden team this year but have five conference road games having five conference home games the next season when you are rebuilding doesn't balance things out.

+1

I don't know why the Big Ten, Big XII and Pac-12 haven't figured this out yet... 9 conference games is a bad idea (10 is better in some ways, but with 12 total games you're definitely better off with 8 conference and 4 non-conference).

It's money and/or the interests of teams other than those at the very top of the conference.

P5 teams from "back east" often avoid scheduling home/home series with west coast teams. (They don't need to; they can find plenty of non-conference P5 opponents that are not as far away.) The 9th conference game for the Pac-12 makes finding enough home games a bit less difficult.

For the Big 12, I suspect that almost everyone other than UT and OU would vote against the possibility that they would sometimes skip the Horns or Sooners if the league played 8 conference games. In the Big Ten, the western division teams already don't play Michigan or Ohio State as often as they used to and would play them even less often if there were still only 8 conference games. It's a similar issue for some teams in the Pac-12. The northwest teams still resent that the newcomers in the conference play both LA teams every year while they play only one. (Another boneheaded Larry Scott move.)
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RE: Arkansas-Missouri game will move to Arrowhead Stadium in 2020
(09-13-2019 11:23 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 06:25 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 04:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-06-2019 02:20 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  I will say, however, that there's no advantage or disadvantage to having an even number of conference games per team vs. an odd number.

I disagree. With an odd number of conference games you have built in scheduling imbalances where half the teams have more road conference games than the other half. Home field advantage might be a small factor but it is a factor, so each year you are handicapping half of your teams in league play.

Right, but it's balanced out the next year.

Not really. When you have a senior laden team this year but have five conference road games having five conference home games the next season when you are rebuilding doesn't balance things out.

EXACTLY!
Odd number of league games creates an imbalance just as having too many teams to play everyone creates an imbalance if you are counting cross-divisional games in the standings.
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(09-13-2019 11:23 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 06:25 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 04:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-06-2019 02:20 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  I will say, however, that there's no advantage or disadvantage to having an even number of conference games per team vs. an odd number.

I disagree. With an odd number of conference games you have built in scheduling imbalances where half the teams have more road conference games than the other half. Home field advantage might be a small factor but it is a factor, so each year you are handicapping half of your teams in league play.

Right, but it's balanced out the next year.

Not really. When you have a senior laden team this year but have five conference road games having five conference home games the next season when you are rebuilding doesn't balance things out.

On the whole, it balances out. There's just as much of a chance that your scenario occurs as the opposite occurring.
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(09-13-2019 04:48 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(09-13-2019 11:23 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 06:25 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 04:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-06-2019 02:20 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  I will say, however, that there's no advantage or disadvantage to having an even number of conference games per team vs. an odd number.

I disagree. With an odd number of conference games you have built in scheduling imbalances where half the teams have more road conference games than the other half. Home field advantage might be a small factor but it is a factor, so each year you are handicapping half of your teams in league play.

Right, but it's balanced out the next year.

Not really. When you have a senior laden team this year but have five conference road games having five conference home games the next season when you are rebuilding doesn't balance things out.

On the whole, it balances out. There's just as much of a chance that your scenario occurs as the opposite occurring.

On the macro level yeah it "works out" but on the micro level not much comfort to the guy who misses a shot at a conference title ring or bowl ring because the team came up short his senior year because they had five conference road games.
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(09-13-2019 05:19 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(09-13-2019 04:48 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(09-13-2019 11:23 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 06:25 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 04:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  I disagree. With an odd number of conference games you have built in scheduling imbalances where half the teams have more road conference games than the other half. Home field advantage might be a small factor but it is a factor, so each year you are handicapping half of your teams in league play.

Right, but it's balanced out the next year.

Not really. When you have a senior laden team this year but have five conference road games having five conference home games the next season when you are rebuilding doesn't balance things out.

On the whole, it balances out. There's just as much of a chance that your scenario occurs as the opposite occurring.

On the macro level yeah it "works out" but on the micro level not much comfort to the guy who misses a shot at a conference title ring or bowl ring because the team came up short his senior year because they had five conference road games.

Maybe his team just wasn't very good. 03-razz

You're describing a very specific scenario which has a very small chance of happening. You're also not considering that there's just as much chance that having 5 conference home games in one year contributes to a team winning their CCG/bowl game that otherwise wouldn't have won had they had just 4 conference home games.

Consider also that having 5 conference road games isn't even necessarily a bad thing, especially if the opponents you happen to draw aren't very strong.
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I'll make a prediction that the future will favor 8 conference games and division-less alignments.

I do agree that an even number of games is best and there aren't many conferences in a position to play a round-robin. The others are too big so instead of worrying about adding more league games, it's best to just loosen the rules for divisions.
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(08-31-2019 09:30 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Here's a thought! If Kansas/Missouri resumes and is scheduled for the last week of the regular season, Arkansas could play Arkansas State that week instead. Although they've never actually played in football for whatever reason...

There is zero incentive for Arkansas to play Arkansas State, win or lose, unless Arkansas State makes it a pay to play with at least a million dollar check to Arkansas.
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(09-14-2019 09:25 AM)bigblueblindness Wrote:  
(08-31-2019 09:30 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Here's a thought! If Kansas/Missouri resumes and is scheduled for the last week of the regular season, Arkansas could play Arkansas State that week instead. Although they've never actually played in football for whatever reason...

There is zero incentive for Arkansas to play Arkansas State, win or lose, unless Arkansas State makes it a pay to play with at least a million dollar check to Arkansas.

Well, the incentive for Arkansas is the same as for scheduling any G5 opponent. Pay them for an easy home win. Although with the state of Razorback football lately, I don't know how easy the win would be.
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Competing with an in-state program is never in the interest of a major program. The only exception is when the in-state program has achieved parity then it doesn't really matter.

It's a matter of resources. If a school like Arkansas scheduled Arkansas State then that's money, time, and attention that goes to a competitor.

Within a single state, all the schools are competing for a share of the same resource pie. It's one thing to write a check or provide some exposure to a program from another state. It's another to do the same for a program that relies on the same financial base.

There are obviously caveats to that economic dynamic, but in general, that's an applicable principle.
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(09-14-2019 12:45 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  Competing with an in-state program is never in the interest of a major program. The only exception is when the in-state program has achieved parity then it doesn't really matter.

It's a matter of resources. If a school like Arkansas scheduled Arkansas State then that's money, time, and attention that goes to a competitor.

Within a single state, all the schools are competing for a share of the same resource pie. It's one thing to write a check or provide some exposure to a program from another state. It's another to do the same for a program that relies on the same financial base.

There are obviously caveats to that economic dynamic, but in general, that's an applicable principle.

Ancient thinking.

First the limited resource pie? Oddly AState and UArk each announced record athletic fund-raising years, in the same year, in consecutive seasons. The guy donating to AState probably isn't donating to UArk no matter what.

What happens if Arkansas State defeats Arkansas?

The Red Wolves aren't going to win recruiting battles vs. Arkansas. They are STILL in the SEC, they are STILL getting better TV exposure, they are STILL playing in front of the larger crowds. They STILL have better bowl access.

Some years ago AState and UArk met in the women's NIT. The Red Wolves bid big and got home court, they sold out the 10,000 seat arena and routed the Lady 'Backs and the two schools went head-to-head on three in-state recruits after the game and Arkansas signed all three on the heels of the rout.

I doubt UALR is going to beat Arkansas for any baseball recruit despite the Trojans romping to a 10 run win at Arkansas.

If you are a coach or AD the only downside is fans are much more likely to demand accountability.

When Arkansas lost to ULM (who finished in a three way tie for second in the Sun Belt) and to a 3-9 Colorado State the spin was "it's their Super Bowl" "We can't get up for those games because we've got the SEC facing us".

Lose to an SEC cellar dweller "Life is tough in conference play".

Fans generally accept it and move on unless it really piles up.

Meanwhile AState loses to Central Arkansas and boosters want so $%&(# answers to what is happening to make sure that doesn't happen again. Those same people barely noticed a much worse performance the week before because it was against a MWC team.

No G5 is beating a P5 for fans or recruits or TV exposure or bowl access as the result of an in-state win over the P5.

But yeah AD's and coaches have a lot harder time brushing off those loses and face greater accountability and who REALLY wants more accountability?
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(09-16-2019 11:01 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(09-14-2019 12:45 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  Competing with an in-state program is never in the interest of a major program. The only exception is when the in-state program has achieved parity then it doesn't really matter.

It's a matter of resources. If a school like Arkansas scheduled Arkansas State then that's money, time, and attention that goes to a competitor.

Within a single state, all the schools are competing for a share of the same resource pie. It's one thing to write a check or provide some exposure to a program from another state. It's another to do the same for a program that relies on the same financial base.

There are obviously caveats to that economic dynamic, but in general, that's an applicable principle.

Ancient thinking.

First the limited resource pie? Oddly AState and UArk each announced record athletic fund-raising years, in the same year, in consecutive seasons. The guy donating to AState probably isn't donating to UArk no matter what.

What happens if Arkansas State defeats Arkansas?

The Red Wolves aren't going to win recruiting battles vs. Arkansas. They are STILL in the SEC, they are STILL getting better TV exposure, they are STILL playing in front of the larger crowds. They STILL have better bowl access.

Some years ago AState and UArk met in the women's NIT. The Red Wolves bid big and got home court, they sold out the 10,000 seat arena and routed the Lady 'Backs and the two schools went head-to-head on three in-state recruits after the game and Arkansas signed all three on the heels of the rout.

I doubt UALR is going to beat Arkansas for any baseball recruit despite the Trojans romping to a 10 run win at Arkansas.

If you are a coach or AD the only downside is fans are much more likely to demand accountability.

When Arkansas lost to ULM (who finished in a three way tie for second in the Sun Belt) and to a 3-9 Colorado State the spin was "it's their Super Bowl" "We can't get up for those games because we've got the SEC facing us".

Lose to an SEC cellar dweller "Life is tough in conference play".

Fans generally accept it and move on unless it really piles up.

Meanwhile AState loses to Central Arkansas and boosters want so $%&(# answers to what is happening to make sure that doesn't happen again. Those same people barely noticed a much worse performance the week before because it was against a MWC team.

No G5 is beating a P5 for fans or recruits or TV exposure or bowl access as the result of an in-state win over the P5.

But yeah AD's and coaches have a lot harder time brushing off those loses and face greater accountability and who REALLY wants more accountability?

That's the whole reason the "name" team doesn't want to play those games. To borrow a line from Steve Spurrier, "When we lose it's a disgrace, and when we win, it's just a relief."

And that's a much bigger deal in football than in basketball because there are so many fewer games in football. If a top basketball team sleepwalks through an early season loss to a mid major or low major team, but they go on to have a good season and make the NCAA tournament, fans won't dwell on that bad loss in December. In football, for an ambitious team, every loss stings more.
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If you polled Arkansas State fans, you'd find a large number don't want to play UArk.
Right now we make money off people who support both. They might check us out now and then when we are having a good season. Start playing they have to choose a team and odds are its the team they supported as a kid.

The other issue is respect.

Most people don't think much of an in-state upset because those happen. (Ask Iowa State fans about UNI). If you are trying to build a brand you need a win that isn't easily dismissed the way beating an in-state team is.

Now I'd rather play a has been Nebraska that can go to the final play than Bama or Georgia because them's usually beat downs.

The reason some P5's who NEVER played in-state have started to is money. Ohio State and LSU have started playing in-state because it sells a few more tickets than the comparable filler which is often a conference-mate of the in-state team and the teams will take less money because they can bus instead of fly and having 8000 or so tickets to the game can fuel your season ticket sales. A few years ago the Ragin Cajuns sent some tickets back to LSU because they had told their fans the only way they could get a game ticket from them was if you bought season tickets. They set a new school record for season tickets sold.
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(09-16-2019 11:01 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Ancient thinking.

First the limited resource pie? Oddly AState and UArk each announced record athletic fund-raising years, in the same year, in consecutive seasons. The guy donating to AState probably isn't donating to UArk no matter what.

What happens if Arkansas State defeats Arkansas?

The Red Wolves aren't going to win recruiting battles vs. Arkansas. They are STILL in the SEC, they are STILL getting better TV exposure, they are STILL playing in front of the larger crowds. They STILL have better bowl access.

Some years ago AState and UArk met in the women's NIT. The Red Wolves bid big and got home court, they sold out the 10,000 seat arena and routed the Lady 'Backs and the two schools went head-to-head on three in-state recruits after the game and Arkansas signed all three on the heels of the rout.

I doubt UALR is going to beat Arkansas for any baseball recruit despite the Trojans romping to a 10 run win at Arkansas.

If you are a coach or AD the only downside is fans are much more likely to demand accountability.

When Arkansas lost to ULM (who finished in a three way tie for second in the Sun Belt) and to a 3-9 Colorado State the spin was "it's their Super Bowl" "We can't get up for those games because we've got the SEC facing us".

Lose to an SEC cellar dweller "Life is tough in conference play".

Fans generally accept it and move on unless it really piles up.

Meanwhile AState loses to Central Arkansas and boosters want so $%&(# answers to what is happening to make sure that doesn't happen again. Those same people barely noticed a much worse performance the week before because it was against a MWC team.

No G5 is beating a P5 for fans or recruits or TV exposure or bowl access as the result of an in-state win over the P5.

But yeah AD's and coaches have a lot harder time brushing off those loses and face greater accountability and who REALLY wants more accountability?

(09-16-2019 01:24 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  If you polled Arkansas State fans, you'd find a large number don't want to play UArk.

Right now we make money off people who support both. They might check us out now and then when we are having a good season. Start playing they have to choose a team and odds are its the team they supported as a kid.

The other issue is respect.

Most people don't think much of an in-state upset because those happen. (Ask Iowa State fans about UNI). If you are trying to build a brand you need a win that isn't easily dismissed the way beating an in-state team is.

Now I'd rather play a has been Nebraska that can go to the final play than Bama or Georgia because them's usually beat downs.

The reason some P5's who NEVER played in-state have started to is money. Ohio State and LSU have started playing in-state because it sells a few more tickets than the comparable filler which is often a conference-mate of the in-state team and the teams will take less money because they can bus instead of fly and having 8000 or so tickets to the game can fuel your season ticket sales. A few years ago the Ragin Cajuns sent some tickets back to LSU because they had told their fans the only way they could get a game ticket from them was if you bought season tickets. They set a new school record for season tickets sold.

It's gotta be one way or the other.

The resource piles are always limited. That doesn't mean programs can't grow their share of the pile, but the increase to Arkansas and Arkansas State came from somewhere. Maybe a smaller school lost out...maybe another institution of some sort lost out...but the money came from somewhere notwithstanding a growing economy can lead to more disposable income for individuals inclined to donate.

Point being, it doesn't actually help the cause of a school like Arkansas to play a school like ASU.

You are correct that a game or two won't impact the pecking order. I'm not saying otherwise, but it's the habit of playing a school on a lower level that will inevitably lend greater credibility to it. If it's a bad idea to schedule a school for 10 years in a row then does it really benefit you to schedule 1 or 2? Might as well leave it alone.

I do agree with you that some schools are playing in-state opponents because it's more cost effective. We'll see what the long term affects of that are, but if losses start racking up then it comes down to what Wedge said...nothing is gained by losing to someone you're supposed to beat.
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(09-16-2019 08:34 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(09-16-2019 11:01 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Ancient thinking.

First the limited resource pie? Oddly AState and UArk each announced record athletic fund-raising years, in the same year, in consecutive seasons. The guy donating to AState probably isn't donating to UArk no matter what.

What happens if Arkansas State defeats Arkansas?

The Red Wolves aren't going to win recruiting battles vs. Arkansas. They are STILL in the SEC, they are STILL getting better TV exposure, they are STILL playing in front of the larger crowds. They STILL have better bowl access.

Some years ago AState and UArk met in the women's NIT. The Red Wolves bid big and got home court, they sold out the 10,000 seat arena and routed the Lady 'Backs and the two schools went head-to-head on three in-state recruits after the game and Arkansas signed all three on the heels of the rout.

I doubt UALR is going to beat Arkansas for any baseball recruit despite the Trojans romping to a 10 run win at Arkansas.

If you are a coach or AD the only downside is fans are much more likely to demand accountability.

When Arkansas lost to ULM (who finished in a three way tie for second in the Sun Belt) and to a 3-9 Colorado State the spin was "it's their Super Bowl" "We can't get up for those games because we've got the SEC facing us".

Lose to an SEC cellar dweller "Life is tough in conference play".

Fans generally accept it and move on unless it really piles up.

Meanwhile AState loses to Central Arkansas and boosters want so $%&(# answers to what is happening to make sure that doesn't happen again. Those same people barely noticed a much worse performance the week before because it was against a MWC team.

No G5 is beating a P5 for fans or recruits or TV exposure or bowl access as the result of an in-state win over the P5.

But yeah AD's and coaches have a lot harder time brushing off those loses and face greater accountability and who REALLY wants more accountability?

(09-16-2019 01:24 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  If you polled Arkansas State fans, you'd find a large number don't want to play UArk.

Right now we make money off people who support both. They might check us out now and then when we are having a good season. Start playing they have to choose a team and odds are its the team they supported as a kid.

The other issue is respect.

Most people don't think much of an in-state upset because those happen. (Ask Iowa State fans about UNI). If you are trying to build a brand you need a win that isn't easily dismissed the way beating an in-state team is.

Now I'd rather play a has been Nebraska that can go to the final play than Bama or Georgia because them's usually beat downs.

The reason some P5's who NEVER played in-state have started to is money. Ohio State and LSU have started playing in-state because it sells a few more tickets than the comparable filler which is often a conference-mate of the in-state team and the teams will take less money because they can bus instead of fly and having 8000 or so tickets to the game can fuel your season ticket sales. A few years ago the Ragin Cajuns sent some tickets back to LSU because they had told their fans the only way they could get a game ticket from them was if you bought season tickets. They set a new school record for season tickets sold.

It's gotta be one way or the other.

The resource piles are always limited. That doesn't mean programs can't grow their share of the pile, but the increase to Arkansas and Arkansas State came from somewhere. Maybe a smaller school lost out...maybe another institution of some sort lost out...but the money came from somewhere notwithstanding a growing economy can lead to more disposable income for individuals inclined to donate.

Point being, it doesn't actually help the cause of a school like Arkansas to play a school like ASU.

You are correct that a game or two won't impact the pecking order. I'm not saying otherwise, but it's the habit of playing a school on a lower level that will inevitably lend greater credibility to it. If it's a bad idea to schedule a school for 10 years in a row then does it really benefit you to schedule 1 or 2? Might as well leave it alone.

I do agree with you that some schools are playing in-state opponents because it's more cost effective. We'll see what the long term affects of that are, but if losses start racking up then it comes down to what Wedge said...nothing is gained by losing to someone you're supposed to beat.

When you lose games you are "supposed" to win it ain't never working well for you. Whether it's an out-of-state G5 like ULM or Northern Illinois or an FCS like The Citadel.

The only question is whether you can get away with losing those games. If out-of-state yeah congratulations you have a better shot of not getting bought out this year.
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