(08-27-2019 10:25 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(08-27-2019 09:48 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(08-27-2019 02:19 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(08-27-2019 02:01 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  It list the money amount for the season and some schools are leaving 500k to 900k on the table. For most of us the pay check game is going to be top 3 revenue maker in the budget. It's interesting to see a school like La Tech that can use every dollar they can get from these pay games, leave so much money on the table.

Texas is paying UTSA 1.7 million and Tech 1.1 million. I understand Tech's biggest out of state alumni base is in Texas but is it worth 600k to play there? Hell even Arkansas is paying 1.5 million, UGA is paying 1.8 million, Bama 1.9, Aub, 1.9 million. It's not just Tech leaving huge dollars on the table. UNCC 1 million for playing Clemson. FAU 1.4 million from Ohio St when they are paying other schools 1.8 million.

Western a school that needs every damn dollar they can get because of state cuts may be the biggest loser...

giving UofL a 50/50 split for what should be a Western home game (in Nashville). This after playing 2 road games at UofL for $400,000 and $600,000. Let me put that in context...UofL will make or come close to making as much from their "road game" vs Western. Than Western got for 2 road games. Those 2 road games could have pulled in between 3 and 3.8 million by playing other schools. I forgot, Western did get 4 basketball games with UofL ....which is about worthless in dollars

We can not leave money like this on the table. TV money the schools are not in control but scheduling for big bucks each AD has control of.

Please st$u. You have no idea about what goes into contract negotiations and it shows.

He is right Tech consistently leaves money on the table. I have pretty good ideal whats going on.

It has zero to do with “fans attending from the other school”

Maybe it’s because the LT game isn’t a 100% guaranteed win for the home team.

When a blueblood school writes a check to a CUSA school, SBC school, Mac school, AAC school, MTW school.....they view it as a sure win. Sometimes it might not work out that way but when the Texas's and Bama's signs that contract...

they are buying a win

If a school is close enough to bus to the game...couple hours, you take less money. On the back end of the contract you get so many tickets and get to keep the money from those....10k at $50 is only $500,000.

I've read the myths of a CUSA or SBC school taking 8 to 12k to a game. It's a myth, outside of a bowl game or a game played in your backyard.

(08-27-2019 10:57 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(08-27-2019 02:01 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  It list the money amount for the season and some schools are leaving 500k to 900k on the table. For most of us the pay check game is going to be top 3 revenue maker in the budget. It's interesting to see a school like La Tech that can use every dollar they can get from these pay games, leave so much money on the table.

Texas is paying UTSA 1.7 million and Tech 1.1 million. I understand Tech's biggest out of state alumni base is in Texas but is it worth 600k to play there? Hell even Arkansas is paying 1.5 million, UGA is paying 1.8 million, Bama 1.9, Aub, 1.9 million. It's not just Tech leaving huge dollars on the table. UNCC 1 million for playing Clemson. FAU 1.4 million from Ohio St when they are paying other schools 1.8 million.

Western a school that needs every damn dollar they can get because of state cuts may be the biggest loser...

giving UofL a 50/50 split for what should be a Western home game (in Nashville). This after playing 2 road games at UofL for $400,000 and $600,000. Let me put that in context...UofL will make or come close to making as much from their "road game" vs Western. Than Western got for 2 road games. Those 2 road games could have pulled in between 3 and 3.8 million by playing other schools. I forgot, Western did get 4 basketball games with UofL ....which is about worthless in dollars

We can not leave money like this on the table. TV money the schools are not in control but scheduling for big bucks each AD has control of.

I seem to remember you recently bragging how you didn't need a bigger stadium because you just moved your big home games to Nashville and made the same amount of money......bet you wouldn't be giving them half the gate, concessions, etc if the game was on your campus.

Western doesnt need a larger stadium for 1 game every 3 to 5 years. That's what you read along with me saying the players love playing a game in a NFL stadium on the same field as some NFL greats played on.

That contract was a sellout by the Western AD to get UofL in a 4 game series. Western will make more money off this game (if the fans show up) than a home game. Even spiting it with UofL ....ticket prices start at $56 and go up to $76. If it was a home game it would be in the season ticket package.

There were 48,000 that watched Western beat uk in Nashville. I doubt if its over 35k for this game and maybe even less . 35k at a avg ticket price of $65 is 2.275 million before expenses . A record breaking 24k at Western would be around $480k

I'm not pissed that Western is splitting the gate a lot of schools do that. I'm pissed the Western AD agreed to take less money than FCS schools were paid by UofL for the 2 games at UofL...

all for a couple home basketball games

Let me put it this way...only an idiot would build something they cant fill over 60% for 90% of the games they play at the stadium just so they can play 1 or 2 game every 4 or 5 years and fill the stadium.

I would assume part of the payday amounts depend on when the game was originally scheduled. For example, if a P5 school schedules a "win game" now for say 2027 the going price might be $1.5 million. Should the P5 school schedule that same 2027 game 3-4 years from now the going rate would probably be closer to $1.8-$2 million range.

(08-27-2019 10:59 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-27-2019 10:25 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(08-27-2019 09:48 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(08-27-2019 02:19 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(08-27-2019 02:01 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  It list the money amount for the season and some schools are leaving 500k to 900k on the table. For most of us the pay check game is going to be top 3 revenue maker in the budget. It's interesting to see a school like La Tech that can use every dollar they can get from these pay games, leave so much money on the table.

Texas is paying UTSA 1.7 million and Tech 1.1 million. I understand Tech's biggest out of state alumni base is in Texas but is it worth 600k to play there? Hell even Arkansas is paying 1.5 million, UGA is paying 1.8 million, Bama 1.9, Aub, 1.9 million. It's not just Tech leaving huge dollars on the table. UNCC 1 million for playing Clemson. FAU 1.4 million from Ohio St when they are paying other schools 1.8 million.

Western a school that needs every damn dollar they can get because of state cuts may be the biggest loser...

giving UofL a 50/50 split for what should be a Western home game (in Nashville). This after playing 2 road games at UofL for $400,000 and $600,000. Let me put that in context...UofL will make or come close to making as much from their "road game" vs Western. Than Western got for 2 road games. Those 2 road games could have pulled in between 3 and 3.8 million by playing other schools. I forgot, Western did get 4 basketball games with UofL ....which is about worthless in dollars

We can not leave money like this on the table. TV money the schools are not in control but scheduling for big bucks each AD has control of.

Please st$u. You have no idea about what goes into contract negotiations and it shows.

He is right Tech consistently leaves money on the table. I have pretty good ideal whats going on.

It has zero to do with “fans attending from the other school”

Maybe it’s because the LT game isn’t a 100% guaranteed win for the home team.

When a blueblood school writes a check to a CUSA school, SBC school, Mac school, AAC school, MTW school.....they view it as a sure win. Sometimes it might not work out that way but when the Texas's and Bama's signs that contract...

they are buying a win

If a school is close enough to bus to the game...couple hours, you take less money. On the back end of the contract you get so many tickets and get to keep the money from those....10k at $50 is only $500,000.

I've read the myths of a CUSA or SBC school taking 8 to 12k to a game. It's a myth, outside of a bowl game or a game played in your backyard.

Yeah, no one is bringing that many unless it's some neutral site game that's closer to the CUSA/SB school. But I know for a fact that when USM plays an SEC school, we sell out our allotment, whatever that allotment is. We brought a few thousand up to Kentucky a few years ago because that's all they gave us to sell. Most of these schools don't need help filling up their stadium, so we get what we can and they use the rest. There's no more tickets for us to buy.

With all that said, USM gladly fills up La Tech's stadium for them every other year.

another USA Today buy game article mentioned USM and MTSU

(link to full article)
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nc...109943001/

A million-and-a-half bucks isn’t a bad haul for a day’s work.

That’s the amount Kent State will receive from Arizona State when the two universities' football programs open their 2019 seasons in Tempe on Thursday. The Golden Flashes won’t depart with a physical check in hand and, in all likelihood, they will walk away with a loss.

But eventually, and more important, they will get paid. Kent State is not a popular pick to win the Mid-American Conference after going 2-10 last season. However, it will lead the league – and all non-Power Five, non-independent programs – in revenue from guarantee games this season at $4.5 million. And it won't be close.

Southern Mississippi and Middle Tennessee State are set to make the second most from road guarantee games among non-Power Five, non-independent teams at $3.15 million apiece.

The money from guarantee games grows in importance with each season for Kent State. Next season, games against Alabama, Kentucky and a yet-to-be-announced Power Five school, Nielsen said, is expected to bring in roughly $5 million. In fiscal year 2022, the guarantees are projected to account for 17.2% of the department's budget, according to Nielsen, whereas the guarantee games made up 13.5% of the budget in fiscal year 2019.

(08-28-2019 10:14 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  With all that said, USM gladly fills up La Tech's stadium for them every other year.

Not really. Last time USM played at Tech they hardly brought any fans. Probably will be the same this year.

(08-28-2019 12:59 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(08-28-2019 10:14 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  With all that said, USM gladly fills up La Tech's stadium for them every other year.

Not really. Last time USM played at Tech they hardly brought any fans. Probably will be the same this year.

The year we were hot garbage and people had quit on the season? Not surprising really.

(08-28-2019 10:13 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  

(08-27-2019 10:59 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-27-2019 10:25 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(08-27-2019 09:48 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(08-27-2019 02:19 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  Please st$u. You have no idea about what goes into contract negotiations and it shows.

He is right Tech consistently leaves money on the table. I have pretty good ideal whats going on.

It has zero to do with “fans attending from the other school”

Maybe it’s because the LT game isn’t a 100% guaranteed win for the home team.

When a blueblood school writes a check to a CUSA school, SBC school, Mac school, AAC school, MTW school.....they view it as a sure win. Sometimes it might not work out that way but when the Texas's and Bama's signs that contract...

they are buying a win

If a school is close enough to bus to the game...couple hours, you take less money. On the back end of the contract you get so many tickets and get to keep the money from those....10k at $50 is only $500,000.

I've read the myths of a CUSA or SBC school taking 8 to 12k to a game. It's a myth, outside of a bowl game or a game played in your backyard.

Yeah, no one is bringing that many unless it's some neutral site game that's closer to the CUSA/SB school. But I know for a fact that when USM plays an SEC school, we sell out our allotment, whatever that allotment is. We brought a few thousand up to Kentucky a few years ago because that's all they gave us to sell. Most of these schools don't need help filling up their stadium, so we get what we can and they use the rest. There's no more tickets for us to buy.

Trust me UK still needs help filling stadium....Most of the UK basketball fans are Bama or Ohio St. football fans....

(08-28-2019 02:44 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(08-28-2019 10:13 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  

(08-27-2019 10:59 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-27-2019 10:25 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(08-27-2019 09:48 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  He is right Tech consistently leaves money on the table. I have pretty good ideal whats going on.

It has zero to do with “fans attending from the other school”

Maybe it’s because the LT game isn’t a 100% guaranteed win for the home team.

When a blueblood school writes a check to a CUSA school, SBC school, Mac school, AAC school, MTW school.....they view it as a sure win. Sometimes it might not work out that way but when the Texas's and Bama's signs that contract...

they are buying a win

If a school is close enough to bus to the game...couple hours, you take less money. On the back end of the contract you get so many tickets and get to keep the money from those....10k at $50 is only $500,000.

I've read the myths of a CUSA or SBC school taking 8 to 12k to a game. It's a myth, outside of a bowl game or a game played in your backyard.

Yeah, no one is bringing that many unless it's some neutral site game that's closer to the CUSA/SB school. But I know for a fact that when USM plays an SEC school, we sell out our allotment, whatever that allotment is. We brought a few thousand up to Kentucky a few years ago because that's all they gave us to sell. Most of these schools don't need help filling up their stadium, so we get what we can and they use the rest. There's no more tickets for us to buy.

Trust me UK still needs help filling stadium....Most of the UK basketball fans are Bama or Ohio St. football fans....

That may be the case, but they filled it up the game we beat them at Commonwealth. I was there to watch it :).

(08-27-2019 10:59 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-27-2019 10:25 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(08-27-2019 09:48 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(08-27-2019 02:19 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(08-27-2019 02:01 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  It list the money amount for the season and some schools are leaving 500k to 900k on the table. For most of us the pay check game is going to be top 3 revenue maker in the budget. It's interesting to see a school like La Tech that can use every dollar they can get from these pay games, leave so much money on the table.

Texas is paying UTSA 1.7 million and Tech 1.1 million. I understand Tech's biggest out of state alumni base is in Texas but is it worth 600k to play there? Hell even Arkansas is paying 1.5 million, UGA is paying 1.8 million, Bama 1.9, Aub, 1.9 million. It's not just Tech leaving huge dollars on the table. UNCC 1 million for playing Clemson. FAU 1.4 million from Ohio St when they are paying other schools 1.8 million.

Western a school that needs every damn dollar they can get because of state cuts may be the biggest loser...

giving UofL a 50/50 split for what should be a Western home game (in Nashville). This after playing 2 road games at UofL for $400,000 and $600,000. Let me put that in context...UofL will make or come close to making as much from their "road game" vs Western. Than Western got for 2 road games. Those 2 road games could have pulled in between 3 and 3.8 million by playing other schools. I forgot, Western did get 4 basketball games with UofL ....which is about worthless in dollars

We can not leave money like this on the table. TV money the schools are not in control but scheduling for big bucks each AD has control of.

Please st$u. You have no idea about what goes into contract negotiations and it shows.

He is right Tech consistently leaves money on the table. I have pretty good ideal whats going on.

It has zero to do with “fans attending from the other school”

Maybe it’s because the LT game isn’t a 100% guaranteed win for the home team.

When a blueblood school writes a check to a CUSA school, SBC school, Mac school, AAC school, MTW school.....they view it as a sure win. Sometimes it might not work out that way but when the Texas's and Bama's signs that contract...

they are buying a win

If a school is close enough to bus to the game...couple hours, you take less money. On the back end of the contract you get so many tickets and get to keep the money from those....10k at $50 is only $500,000.

I've read the myths of a CUSA or SBC school taking 8 to 12k to a game. It's a myth, outside of a bowl game or a game played in your backyard.

Its not a myth but opinions such as this arent unusual on this board since most have never played beyond the "small ball" level. Also, the large schools DO have vacant seats, not sellouts every game, depending upon the visitors brand and how well they travel.

(08-28-2019 12:59 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(08-28-2019 10:14 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  With all that said, USM gladly fills up La Tech's stadium for them every other year.

Not really. Last time USM played at Tech they hardly brought any fans. Probably will be the same this year.

USM didnt bring any, Tech fans didnt show up, two reasons why the stadium was empty.