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Which player will have a breakout season?
So, thinking of your team (or others if you like), which player do you think is mostly likely to have a breakout season and really up their game?
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For UTRGV (and it's a wild guess): Uche Dibiamaka.

He obviously has the strength, and in the HS recruiting vids he was an over the top scorer. In his freshman year with us , he rarely took shots but nevertheless Lew Hill gave him lots of minutes and he looked like a real player. So my theory is, he was told had to spend his first season demonstrating discipline and working on defense and teamwork.
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Trev Queen. He had to sit out the first semester. Got limited minutes early but REALLY came on strong late. I think he could have a monster year.
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(08-23-2019 07:29 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  Trev Queen. He had to sit out the first semester. Got limited minutes early but REALLY came on strong late. I think he could have a monster year.

I agree. He came alive in last year’s championship game in Vegas. He has all kinds of potential.
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RE: Which player will have a breakout season?
Well, obviously the top two returning players "statistically" are Milan Acquaah and Carlos Johnson. I expect both to have good seasons; although their numbers might be down a little because both have more scoring support from a season ago. I think CSUB will replace Jarkel Joiners scoring punch with that of Richmond transfer De'Monte Buckingham. And, I think Seattle U could get big season's out of Myles Carter, Delante Jones, and Terrell Brown if the team can stay healthy. NMSU should be loaded but I don't expect earth chattering number out of any individual because of the team's balance. Trevelin Queen appears to be the most gifted player on the Aggie team. Chicago State, UM Kansas City, and Utah Valley are unknowns as to who will be their alpha dog on the court. For UVU it might be Oklahoma State transfer Brandon Averette, but he is one of many new faces on the wolverine team. Jovan Levi is clearly the leader of UTRGV. However, he is more of a facilitator than a scorer.
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(08-24-2019 10:00 AM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  Well, obviously the top two returning players "statistically" are Milan Acquaah and Carlos Johnson. I expect both to have good seasons; although their numbers might be down a little because both have more scoring support from a season ago. I think CSUB will replace Jarkel Joiners scoring punch with that of Richmond transfer De'Monte Buckingham. And, I think Seattle U could get big season's out of Myles Carter, Delante Jones, and Terrell Brown if the team can stay healthy. NMSU should be loaded but I don't expect earth chattering number out of any individual because of the team's balance. Trevelin Queen appears to be the most gifted player on the Aggie team. Chicago State, UM Kansas City, and Utah Valley are unknowns as to who will be their alpha dog on the court. For UVU it might be Oklahoma State transfer Brandon Averette, but he is one of many new faces on the wolverine team. Jovan Levi is clearly the leader of UTRGV. However, he is more of a facilitator than a scorer.

I agree about the top two returning players "statistically." I will pick Oscar Frayer of GCU. He is overdue. Others would be Terrell Brown and Myles Carter of Seattle and De'jon Davis of CBU. NMSU has a lot of talent, but will any individual play more than 25 minutes per game?
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RE: Which player will have a breakout season?
I would have to think Jaylen Fisher could have a pretty good season for GCU.
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(08-24-2019 05:09 PM)Lopes87 Wrote:  I would have to think Jaylen Fisher could have a pretty good season for GCU.

*if he stays healthy
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(08-24-2019 06:31 PM)gleadley Wrote:  
(08-24-2019 05:09 PM)Lopes87 Wrote:  I would have to think Jaylen Fisher could have a pretty good season for GCU.

*if he stays healthy

Yup.

But if he is healthy I have to think he should be a top WAC player.
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(08-24-2019 06:40 PM)Lopes87 Wrote:  
(08-24-2019 06:31 PM)gleadley Wrote:  
(08-24-2019 05:09 PM)Lopes87 Wrote:  I would have to think Jaylen Fisher could have a pretty good season for GCU.

*if he stays healthy

Yup.

But if he is healthy I have to think he should be a top WAC player.

I think "if healthy" Fisher should be able to score a significant number of points in the WAC. With a surgically repaired knee, he might not have as much leaping ability or quickness; and that might be reflected in his ability to defend speedy guards. If anything, the WAC has a lot of speedy guards... NMSU's AJ Harris, Terrell Brown, UTRGV's Jovan Levi, Seattle's Morgan Means, UVU's Brandon Averette , CBU's Milan Acquaah and Brandon Boyd, etc. etc... Fisher is bigger and stronger, but probably a slower guard than he used to be.
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RE: Which player will have a breakout season?
(08-24-2019 07:36 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  
(08-24-2019 06:40 PM)Lopes87 Wrote:  
(08-24-2019 06:31 PM)gleadley Wrote:  
(08-24-2019 05:09 PM)Lopes87 Wrote:  I would have to think Jaylen Fisher could have a pretty good season for GCU.

*if he stays healthy

Yup.

But if he is healthy I have to think he should be a top WAC player.

I think "if healthy" Fisher should be able to score a significant number of points in the WAC. With a surgically repaired knee, he might not have as much leaping ability or quickness; and that might be reflected in his ability to defend speedy guards. If anything, the WAC has a lot of speedy guards... NMSU's AJ Harris, Terrell Brown, UTRGV's Jovan Levi, Seattle's Morgan Means, UVU's Brandon Averette , CBU's Milan Acquaah and Brandon Boyd, etc. etc... Fisher is bigger and stronger, but probably a slower guard than he used to be.

I'm not sure Fisher would be guarding those guys much anyways. I'd have to think Brown/Dixon/Blackshear/Johnson would be on these guys more than Fisher but we won't know till the WAC season starts.
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RE: Which player will have a breakout season?
For me, Javon Levi to improve offensively because the guy can play defense but I would love to see him score more.

(08-23-2019 07:04 PM)edinburger Wrote:  For UTRGV (and it's a wild guess): Uche Dibiamaka.

He obviously has the strength, and in the HS recruiting vids he was an over the top scorer. In his freshman year with us , he rarely took shots but nevertheless Lew Hill gave him lots of minutes and he looked like a real player. So my theory is, he was told had to spend his first season demonstrating discipline and working on defense and teamwork.
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(08-24-2019 07:51 PM)Lopes87 Wrote:  
(08-24-2019 07:36 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  
(08-24-2019 06:40 PM)Lopes87 Wrote:  
(08-24-2019 06:31 PM)gleadley Wrote:  
(08-24-2019 05:09 PM)Lopes87 Wrote:  I would have to think Jaylen Fisher could have a pretty good season for GCU.

*if he stays healthy

Yup.

But if he is healthy I have to think he should be a top WAC player.

I think "if healthy" Fisher should be able to score a significant number of points in the WAC. With a surgically repaired knee, he might not have as much leaping ability or quickness; and that might be reflected in his ability to defend speedy guards. If anything, the WAC has a lot of speedy guards... NMSU's AJ Harris, Terrell Brown, UTRGV's Jovan Levi, Seattle's Morgan Means, UVU's Brandon Averette , CBU's Milan Acquaah and Brandon Boyd, etc. etc... Fisher is bigger and stronger, but probably a slower guard than he used to be.

I'm not sure Fisher would be guarding those guys much anyways. I'd have to think Brown/Dixon/Blackshear/Johnson would be on these guys more than Fisher but we won't know till the WAC season starts.

Well, NMSU will probably start Harris, Brown, and Queen on the perimeter. Who exactly can Fisher guard defensively? All three Aggie guards are quick. Seattle U is very similar with Morgan Means, Terrell Brown, and Delante Jones probably starting on the perimeter in Hayford's line up. GCU has a lot more depth at guard as well. But that might mean Fisher gets less playing time in lieu of Isiah Brown or Mikey Dixon; against quicker teams like NMSU and maybe Seattle. BTW, there is a possibility NMSU could get the services of East Carolina transfer Shawn Williams this up coming season. This season, NMSU should have 5'9 AJ Harris, 6'1 Terrell Brown, 6'6 Trevelin Queen, 6'0 Shunn Buchanan, 6'4 Clayton Henry, 6'4 Jabari Rice, 6'6 Dajour Joseph, and 6'1 Shawn Williams in their guard rotation this season.

Don't get me wrong, Jaylen Fisher is a very good addition to their program. And, GCU added a few other good D1 transfers in Isiah Brown and Mikey Dixon as well. So, GCU should be a deeper more versatile team next season. The Lopes will not be as big of a team this season but they will be quicker defensively with Majerle probably a four out, one in line up this season. I see Oscar Frayer, Lorenzo Jenkins, Ethan Spry and possibly Bryce Okpoh playing at power forward this season with Ale Lever and Louis Bangai rotating at center. Too bad Gabe McGlothan is redshirting this season.

I am guessing, but this is what I think GCU's starting line up will be this season...

Point Guard - Jaylen Fisher (6'2, 200-lbs, Sr) - if fully healthy and eligible immediately
Shooting Guard - Carlos Johnson (6'3, 215-lbs, Sr)
Wing Guard/Forward - J.J. Rhymes (6'4, 205-lbs, Jr)
Combo Forward - Oscar Frayer (6'7, 190-lbs, Sr)
Center - Alessandro Lever (6'10, 230-lbs, Jr)

Main bench support...
Point Guard - Isiah Brown (6'2, 175, So)
Shooting Guard - Mikey Dixon (6'2, 170, Jr)
Combo Forward - Lorenzo Jenkins (6'7, 210-lbs, Sr)
Center - Louis Bangai (6'10, 230-lbs, Fr)
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(08-25-2019 02:18 AM)WACfan86 Wrote:  For me, Javon Levi to improve offensively because the guy can play defense but I would love to see him score more.

(08-23-2019 07:04 PM)edinburger Wrote:  For UTRGV (and it's a wild guess): Uche Dibiamaka.

He obviously has the strength, and in the HS recruiting vids he was an over the top scorer. In his freshman year with us , he rarely took shots but nevertheless Lew Hill gave him lots of minutes and he looked like a real player. So my theory is, he was told had to spend his first season demonstrating discipline and working on defense and teamwork.

I think Javon ought to keep doing what he does, decent amount of scoring combined with the best defense in the WAC. Just needs to practice shooting technicals. Maybe we need a thread on who he'll draw a punch from this coming season.
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(08-25-2019 02:59 AM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  
(08-24-2019 07:51 PM)Lopes87 Wrote:  
(08-24-2019 07:36 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  
(08-24-2019 06:40 PM)Lopes87 Wrote:  
(08-24-2019 06:31 PM)gleadley Wrote:  *if he stays healthy

Yup.

But if he is healthy I have to think he should be a top WAC player.

I think "if healthy" Fisher should be able to score a significant number of points in the WAC. With a surgically repaired knee, he might not have as much leaping ability or quickness; and that might be reflected in his ability to defend speedy guards. If anything, the WAC has a lot of speedy guards... NMSU's AJ Harris, Terrell Brown, UTRGV's Jovan Levi, Seattle's Morgan Means, UVU's Brandon Averette , CBU's Milan Acquaah and Brandon Boyd, etc. etc... Fisher is bigger and stronger, but probably a slower guard than he used to be.

I'm not sure Fisher would be guarding those guys much anyways. I'd have to think Brown/Dixon/Blackshear/Johnson would be on these guys more than Fisher but we won't know till the WAC season starts.

Well, NMSU will probably start Harris, Brown, and Queen on the perimeter. Who exactly can Fisher guard defensively? All three Aggie guards are quick. Seattle U is very similar with Morgan Means, Terrell Brown, and Delante Jones probably starting on the perimeter in Hayford's line up. GCU has a lot more depth at guard as well. But that might mean Fisher gets less playing time in lieu of Isiah Brown or Mikey Dixon; against quicker teams like NMSU and maybe Seattle. BTW, there is a possibility NMSU could get the services of East Carolina transfer Shawn Williams this up coming season. This season, NMSU should have 5'9 AJ Harris, 6'1 Terrell Brown, 6'6 Trevelin Queen, 6'0 Shunn Buchanan, 6'4 Clayton Henry, 6'4 Jabari Rice, 6'6 Dajour Joseph, and 6'1 Shawn Williams in their guard rotation this season.

Don't get me wrong, Jaylen Fisher is a very good addition to their program. And, GCU added a few other good D1 transfers in Isiah Brown and Mikey Dixon as well. So, GCU should be a deeper more versatile team next season. The Lopes will not be as big of a team this season but they will be quicker defensively with Majerle probably a four out, one in line up this season. I see Oscar Frayer, Lorenzo Jenkins, Ethan Spry and possibly Bryce Okpoh playing at power forward this season with Ale Lever and Louis Bangai rotating at center. Too bad Gabe McGlothan is redshirting this season.

I am guessing, but this is what I think GCU's starting line up will be this season...

Point Guard - Jaylen Fisher (6'2, 200-lbs, Sr) - if fully healthy and eligible immediately
Shooting Guard - Carlos Johnson (6'3, 215-lbs, Sr)
Wing Guard/Forward - J.J. Rhymes (6'4, 205-lbs, Jr)
Combo Forward - Oscar Frayer (6'7, 190-lbs, Sr)
Center - Alessandro Lever (6'10, 230-lbs, Jr)

Main bench support...
Point Guard - Isiah Brown (6'2, 175, So)
Shooting Guard - Mikey Dixon (6'2, 170, Jr)
Combo Forward - Lorenzo Jenkins (6'7, 210-lbs, Sr)
Center - Louis Bangai (6'10, 230-lbs, Fr)

I don't necessarily disagree with the lineup, but you may be underestimating how much Majerle will lean on FR PG Javon Blacksher. Everything I've read and heard from Majerle about the PG position is Fisher/Blacksher. Thunder Tan isn't usually high on freshmen, but Blacksher, Fish, & Carlos Johnson have been grinding together since I think mid-July.

To tie in the "Who will defend quick guards?"e's question, he is also coming from one of the top public HS basketball programs in the country that creates dynamic offense through stifling, full-court defense. He will make freshman mistakes, but expect Blacksher to contribute at more at the 1. Because Majerle likes running with 2 PGs on the floor, I also wouldn't be that surprised to see Brown on the floor a bunch with Fisher/Blacksher.
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(08-26-2019 06:49 AM)gleadley Wrote:  
(08-25-2019 02:59 AM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  
(08-24-2019 07:51 PM)Lopes87 Wrote:  
(08-24-2019 07:36 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  
(08-24-2019 06:40 PM)Lopes87 Wrote:  Yup.

But if he is healthy I have to think he should be a top WAC player.

I think "if healthy" Fisher should be able to score a significant number of points in the WAC. With a surgically repaired knee, he might not have as much leaping ability or quickness; and that might be reflected in his ability to defend speedy guards. If anything, the WAC has a lot of speedy guards... NMSU's AJ Harris, Terrell Brown, UTRGV's Jovan Levi, Seattle's Morgan Means, UVU's Brandon Averette , CBU's Milan Acquaah and Brandon Boyd, etc. etc... Fisher is bigger and stronger, but probably a slower guard than he used to be.

I'm not sure Fisher would be guarding those guys much anyways. I'd have to think Brown/Dixon/Blackshear/Johnson would be on these guys more than Fisher but we won't know till the WAC season starts.

Well, NMSU will probably start Harris, Brown, and Queen on the perimeter. Who exactly can Fisher guard defensively? All three Aggie guards are quick. Seattle U is very similar with Morgan Means, Terrell Brown, and Delante Jones probably starting on the perimeter in Hayford's line up. GCU has a lot more depth at guard as well. But that might mean Fisher gets less playing time in lieu of Isiah Brown or Mikey Dixon; against quicker teams like NMSU and maybe Seattle. BTW, there is a possibility NMSU could get the services of East Carolina transfer Shawn Williams this up coming season. This season, NMSU should have 5'9 AJ Harris, 6'1 Terrell Brown, 6'6 Trevelin Queen, 6'0 Shunn Buchanan, 6'4 Clayton Henry, 6'4 Jabari Rice, 6'6 Dajour Joseph, and 6'1 Shawn Williams in their guard rotation this season.

Don't get me wrong, Jaylen Fisher is a very good addition to their program. And, GCU added a few other good D1 transfers in Isiah Brown and Mikey Dixon as well. So, GCU should be a deeper more versatile team next season. The Lopes will not be as big of a team this season but they will be quicker defensively with Majerle probably a four out, one in line up this season. I see Oscar Frayer, Lorenzo Jenkins, Ethan Spry and possibly Bryce Okpoh playing at power forward this season with Ale Lever and Louis Bangai rotating at center. Too bad Gabe McGlothan is redshirting this season.

I am guessing, but this is what I think GCU's starting line up will be this season...

Point Guard - Jaylen Fisher (6'2, 200-lbs, Sr) - if fully healthy and eligible immediately
Shooting Guard - Carlos Johnson (6'3, 215-lbs, Sr)
Wing Guard/Forward - J.J. Rhymes (6'4, 205-lbs, Jr)
Combo Forward - Oscar Frayer (6'7, 190-lbs, Sr)
Center - Alessandro Lever (6'10, 230-lbs, Jr)

Main bench support...
Point Guard - Isiah Brown (6'2, 175, So)
Shooting Guard - Mikey Dixon (6'2, 170, Jr)
Combo Forward - Lorenzo Jenkins (6'7, 210-lbs, Sr)
Center - Louis Bangai (6'10, 230-lbs, Fr)

I don't necessarily disagree with the lineup, but you may be underestimating how much Majerle will lean on FR PG Javon Blacksher. Everything I've read and heard from Majerle about the PG position is Fisher/Blacksher. Thunder Tan isn't usually high on freshmen, but Blacksher, Fish, & Carlos Johnson have been grinding together since I think mid-July.

To tie in the "Who will defend quick guards?"e's question, he is also coming from one of the top public HS basketball programs in the country that creates dynamic offense through stifling, full-court defense. He will make freshman mistakes, but expect Blacksher to contribute at more at the 1. Because Majerle likes running with 2 PGs on the floor, I also wouldn't be that surprised to see Brown on the floor a bunch with Fisher/Blacksher.

I feel like Blacksher has the opportunity to play a lot early on this year. Was the best player on the floor for 3/4 of the Shadow Mountain v. Pinnacle game which had other top recruits like Jaelen House and Nico Mannion. Also averaged 12.2 points in AAU this year in 16 mpg to go along with a 3 to 1 assist to turnover. Also played at the 2 a lot since Jaelen House was Shadow Mountain's PG
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