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RE: North Carolina A&T
I can't believe some on here really think the idea of adding NCAT is beneficial for the Sun Belt.

How about we take on a different perspective and raid CUSA, instead of establishing the idea that the Sun Belt is an FCS feeder conference.
08-18-2019 04:31 PM
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RE: North Carolina A&T
Been one of my pet theories that they will be many schools upgrading to FBS before 2025, when the new CFP contract will take effect and higher rates. FCS is a waste if a bigger $ CFP pool is available to the G5 soon to be G8.

ASun expands with NC A&T, JMU, Stony Brook, Albany, Jacksonville St, EKU, Delaware. Kennesaw St moves up. UNF and FGCU have ready conference.

The WAC expands with Southland wannabe FBS schools ( Sam Houston St, Lamar, McNeese St etc) and the Cali Big Sky schools.

The Summit get the Montanas, Idaho, Weber St and moves up.

The G5 will have a conniption, but the P5 wants it, as the G5 will be further diluted.
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08-18-2019 05:44 PM
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Now that Liberty has busted the FBS ceiling, needing a conference to move up, many schools will do the same. If they want FBS, they will just declare it. Get 8 to move up and they will create a new conference. I would expect to hear rumblings from about 10 schools and they all move up together. Either that or a conference will declare and move up all together.
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RE: North Carolina A&T
The more, the merrier. Just make the playoff a 16 team playoff.
08-18-2019 05:56 PM
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RE: North Carolina A&T
(08-18-2019 04:31 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  I can't believe some on here really think the idea of adding NCAT is beneficial for the Sun Belt.

How about we take on a different perspective and raid CUSA, instead of establishing the idea that the Sun Belt is an FCS feeder conference.

I didn't see any post other than one by Eigan Eagle and yours that even mentioned the Sun Belt Conference. I could be wrong. And BTW, I also can not see where NCA&T could benefit the SBC.
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The more, the merrier. Just ensure a 32 team playoff.
08-18-2019 07:01 PM
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RE: North Carolina A&T
(08-18-2019 03:59 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
(08-17-2019 11:56 AM)EagleNationRising Wrote:  Uh...yeah. They’ve done a good job in recruiting and scheduling the last few years. Regularly running thru the Meac (not a big feat) and beating every G5 they’ve played (except for Tulsa) since 2016. Last year they beat a decent Jacksonville State team (that then beat EKU 56-7). I’ll walk back my basketball comments from earlier a little, but I will add that they have made it to the second round this decade.

I'm just curious how you think their academics will "boost" us. Not trying to be a smart-***, just want to understand. Georgia State is an R1 school for example. Does anyone other than some State fans really think that gives any measurable benefit to the league? How would A&T being an R2 (the same classification as GS and at lest several SBC schools) boost us?

Also, we're talking about a conference that no longer participates in the FCS playoffs because they've been so bad at it. Squeaking by awful UNCC and ECU teams to me doesn't really demonstrate competitiveness.

I think it's more along the lines of they no longer participate in the playoffs because ESPN offered them a deal to have the first bowl game of the season every year and pays each team a million dollars because of the huge drawing that HBCU's have. It's better than nearly every bowl payout the Sunbelt offers and they play prime time on ABC. And didn't you guys give up the playoffs to play in a conference where you'd have literally no chance to compete for a championship too? Kinda like they open the season with the MEAC/SWAC challenge on ESPN every year. Seems like they're doing fine to me.
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(08-18-2019 04:31 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  I can't believe some on here really think the idea of adding NCAT is beneficial for the Sun Belt.

How about we take on a different perspective and raid CUSA, instead of establishing the idea that the Sun Belt is an FCS feeder conference.

Probably because no one is leaving CUSA to come to the Sunbelt and people are talking realistic scenarios.
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RE: North Carolina A&T
(08-18-2019 09:36 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  
(08-18-2019 04:31 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  I can't believe some on here really think the idea of adding NCAT is beneficial for the Sun Belt.

How about we take on a different perspective and raid CUSA, instead of establishing the idea that the Sun Belt is an FCS feeder conference.

Probably because no one is leaving CUSA to come to the Sunbelt and people are talking realistic scenarios.

And how do you know that no one WANTS to leave coosa? They may have not publicly stated it for the news media, but you don't have a clue what ADs and Admins have on their minds.
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Hate to break the news here but this ain't happening. Nothing other than someone attempting to build the school's image or discussion to take the off some other issue. Discussion should be limited to the CUSA, MAC, or A&T board.
08-19-2019 07:02 AM
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RE: North Carolina A&T
(08-18-2019 09:35 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  I think it's more along the lines of they no longer participate in the playoffs because ESPN offered them a deal to have the first bowl game of the season every year and pays each team a million dollars because of the huge drawing that HBCU's have. It's better than nearly every bowl payout the Sunbelt offers and they play prime time on ABC. And didn't you guys give up the playoffs to play in a conference where you'd have literally no chance to compete for a championship too? Kinda like they open the season with the MEAC/SWAC challenge on ESPN every year. Seems like they're doing fine to me.

Hey Gilligan, I was talking about the level of competitiveness in the MEAC and SWAC, and given the MEAC competed in the playoffs until 2015 when they could've started the Celebration Bowl years ago, I'd say their lack of playoff wins probably played a role in them throwing in the towel.

The money they get from that game is a big reason why A&T won't go FBS, especially as an independent.
08-19-2019 07:16 AM
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(08-17-2019 08:24 PM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  However I would put more money on seeing UNC-Greensboro and NC A&T merge into one university before FBS football happens for the Aggies.

I've heard it was messy when Tennessee State and UT-Nashville merged, but we are long passed the days when it is appropriate for a city to have two separate state undergraduate universities for just about any reason, but especially for historically racial reasons. Greensboro and Norfolk are the two most glaring examples of this, but there are others also.

Growing up in Greensboro, I often thought A&T and UNCG should merge forming a new school (North Carolina Tech perhaps) with the west campus for arts with business while the east campus for technology
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RE: North Carolina A&T
If they are willing to make the commitment and be serious, welcome to the club.

I'm skeptical that expansion is in the best interest of the Sun Belt but A&T academically is who we would like to affiliate with I'm sure but don't think the presidents are interested enough to expand.
08-19-2019 10:09 AM
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RE: North Carolina A&T
I didn't think the Sunbelt needed more teams. It would be nice if the 2 basketball teams also played football. I thought lack of bowl games and no exit fee were reasons teams left the Sunbelts, but that has been fixed. If we expand, we should raid CUSA.
08-19-2019 10:26 AM
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RE: North Carolina A&T
(08-18-2019 04:31 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  I can't believe some on here really think the idea of adding NCAT is beneficial for the Sun Belt.

How about we take on a different perspective and raid CUSA, instead of establishing the idea that the Sun Belt is an FCS feeder conference.

Greensboro wouldn't be a terrible market to enter and NC A&T has a ton of support. It wouldn't be difficult to envision a situation where their budget could increase, attendance, etc. HBCU in a traditional conference in the middle of NC, in the 3rd largest market in the State (and growing), and they are a research university.

Assuming they improve their facilities, I could see their recruiting take an uptick commiserate with the move immediately. Personally, I'd expect them to have more success than Coastal has had in football.
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RE: North Carolina A&T
Is the same team that beat App State a few years back?
08-19-2019 11:19 AM
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(08-19-2019 11:19 AM)The4thOption Wrote:  Is the same team that beat App State a few years back?

The same App team that beat Georgia Southern who in turn beat Florida? Yes.
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Right now we're just looking into. Learning the pros and the cons and it a move feasible or not.
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How will their fan support change when they no longer play their rival HBCU schools?
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(08-19-2019 02:08 PM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  How will their fan support change when they no longer play their rival HBCU schools?

Hasn’t seemed to effect Tennessee state (they’re in the OVC and still have a classic game series with I believe Jackson State)

Also Hampton is moving away from the HBCU conference MEAC for the big south
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