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Obama Reportedly Tried To Talk Biden Out Of Running For President
Quote:On the campaign trail, former Vice President Joe Biden often touts his unique privilege of having served as number two in command under President Barack Obama. But, the 44th president has remained awfully quiet during Biden's primary campaign for the 2020 Democratic nomination. Biden has maintained this is because he asked Obama to stay on the sideline. Biden claimed he wanted to earn the nomination for himself. This excuse always seemed pretty odd, especially when an early endorsement could unite the party behind Biden instead of continuing the bloodbath of Democrats devouring themselves before the general election. Now, a new report out from the New York Times indicates that Obama may have never wanted Biden to run. In fact, if the rumors are true, he tried talking his "best friend" out of the race.

Glenn Thrush has a report regarding the strange and somewhat political-turned-genuine friendship between Obama and Biden. More recently in their story, in 2015, Obama supposedly thought that Hillary Clinton had a better chance of winning the general and continuing his agenda than Biden. That coupled with the fact that Biden's son Beau had just passed away, was reason enough to talk his friend out of running. But now, according to Thrush, Obama's only concern is that his former vice president doesn't make a fool out of himself:

via New York Times:

By now, the line between heart and head, between the personal and political, so clear a decade ago, has blurred completely.

The two men spoke at least a half dozen times before Mr. Biden decided to run, and Mr. Obama took pains to cast his doubts about the campaign in personal terms.

“You don’t have to do this, Joe, you really don’t,” Mr. Obama told Mr. Biden earlier this year, according to a person familiar with the exchange.

Mr. Biden — who thinks he could have defeated Donald Trump four years ago — responded by telling Mr. Obama he could never forgive himself if he turned down a second shot at Mr. Trump.

So, how is Obama going to help out his pal? Apparently, by playing a very behind the scenes campaign advisor:

In March, Mr. Obama took the unusual step of summoning Mr. Biden’s top campaign advisers, including the former White House communications director Anita Dunn and Mr. Biden’s longtime spokeswoman, Kate Bedingfield, to his Washington office for a briefing on the campaign’s digital and communications strategy with members of his own staff, including his senior adviser, Eric Schultz.

When they were done, Mr. Obama offered a pointed reminder, according to two people with knowledge of his comments:

Win or lose, they needed to make sure Mr. Biden did not “embarrass himself” or “damage his legacy” during the campaign.

Maybe Obama's protection of Biden simply boils down to his own egotism. If Biden is exposed as a clown, then what does that make Obama? Instead of a proverbial "kingmaker" would he become the leader of the circus? Whatever the case, and whatever Obama is doing behind the scenes, his silence in the public is perhaps more deafening than any of that noise.

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RE: Obama Reportedly Tried To Talk Biden Out Of Running For President
they're pushing Kamala Harris*, and she will win the nomination -- not only for that fact, or even mostly for that fact. but that will be the edge that she needs.

*to the Toms; don't even start.
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Obama Reportedly Tried To Talk Biden Out Of Running For President
I’ve often thought the same thing. The chance that Biden could beat Trump is low. Obama knee that Biden would have no choice but to tout his “legacy” and use it as the ultimate card to play in hopes of unseating President Trump.

Obama knows it’s unlikely. He doesn’t actually care about Biden though. Biden was always just a useful idiot to him. Instead, he’s worried primarily with his own legacy and ego. The minute he’s forced to publicly support Biden, and then Biden loses would be twice that Obama’s legacy taking a massive hit. It’s already public knowledge that Obama vehemently resents the fact that Trump was undoing all his policies and achievements and with every string President Trump pulled the angrier Obama became and still is.

He knows the danger a Biden loss immediately does his legacy further.

He’ll be cowered in front of the lifetime channel, enjoying mom jeans and ice cream until 2024. He’ll be forced to his usual annoying tactics of passive aggressive letters admonishing his successor.


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(08-16-2019 07:01 PM)EagleX Wrote:  they're pushing Kamala Harris*, and she will win the nomination -- not only for that fact, or even mostly for that fact. but that will be the edge that she needs.

*to the Toms; don't even start.

I thought this at first, and I suppose it could still be true, it is very early. But Tulsi's takedown really stung her hard.
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(08-16-2019 08:50 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  
(08-16-2019 07:01 PM)EagleX Wrote:  they're pushing Kamala Harris*, and she will win the nomination -- not only for that fact, or even mostly for that fact. but that will be the edge that she needs.

*to the Toms; don't even start.

I thought this at first, and I suppose it could still be true, it is very early. But Tulsi's takedown really stung her hard.

Yeah, I have that impression, too, but it's still a long way to Nov 2020.

What surprises me so far is Warren gaining momentum, and Bernie sliding.
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Obama Reportedly Tried To Talk Biden Out Of Running For President
(08-16-2019 09:41 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(08-16-2019 08:50 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  
(08-16-2019 07:01 PM)EagleX Wrote:  they're pushing Kamala Harris*, and she will win the nomination -- not only for that fact, or even mostly for that fact. but that will be the edge that she needs.

*to the Toms; don't even start.

I thought this at first, and I suppose it could still be true, it is very early. But Tulsi's takedown really stung her hard.

Yeah, I have that impression, too, but it's still a long way to Nov 2020.

What surprises me so far is Warren gaining momentum, and Bernie sliding.

What hurt Bernie the worst after his actual win over Clinton that was stolen from him in 2016 was two things.

1. A rebounding economy
2. Venezuela’s disaster

Socialism thrives in disastrous economies because people get desperate and can’t think outside of their immediate circumstances.


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(08-17-2019 02:09 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(08-16-2019 09:41 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(08-16-2019 08:50 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  
(08-16-2019 07:01 PM)EagleX Wrote:  they're pushing Kamala Harris*, and she will win the nomination -- not only for that fact, or even mostly for that fact. but that will be the edge that she needs.

*to the Toms; don't even start.

I thought this at first, and I suppose it could still be true, it is very early. But Tulsi's takedown really stung her hard.

Yeah, I have that impression, too, but it's still a long way to Nov 2020.

What surprises me so far is Warren gaining momentum, and Bernie sliding.

What hurt Bernie the worst after his actual win over Clinton that was stolen from him in 2016 was two things.

1. A rebounding economy
2. Venezuela’s disaster

Socialism thrives in disastrous economies because people get desperate and can’t think outside of their immediate circumstances.


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And his corrupt wife's shenanigans and his new lake house... Before he was just a crazy f'in communist. He's a sellout and a fraud now.
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Yeah Bernie had a unique integrity and consistency especially when compared to Clinton. That gave him a unique advantage. Im not seeing that advantage in a more crowded field with fresh faces
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The only way for Barry to save his legacy is a president Moochel.....
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RE: Obama Reportedly Tried To Talk Biden Out Of Running For President
(08-16-2019 08:50 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  
(08-16-2019 07:01 PM)EagleX Wrote:  they're pushing Kamala Harris*, and she will win the nomination -- not only for that fact, or even mostly for that fact. but that will be the edge that she needs.

*to the Toms; don't even start.

I thought this at first, and I suppose it could still be true, it is very early. But Tulsi's takedown really stung her hard.

Kamala could yet win, but she's on a downward trajectory. She doesn't come across as sincere.

All these leaks about taking things easy on Biden are not designed to help him. Someone is trying to take him down. Or--all these leaks could be entirely made up by someone on the outside.

Its amazing to me the stuff that comes out inside campaigns these days. There are a lot of sleazy people working in politics, to need the ego boost of getting quoted anonymously in the paper so much that you stab your team in the back. I know a lot of it is fiction, but some is true.
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