(08-19-2019 02:04 PM)ktharrisjr Wrote:  

(08-19-2019 01:49 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(08-19-2019 01:47 PM)ktharrisjr Wrote:  all sounds good except memphis will not be dictating line ups for matchups. You have two projected lottery picks that are 7-1 and 6-9, Memphis will be playing big all season. DJ is the backup 4, not a guard or 3 in this system. Penny did not platoon at EAST, but he will get guys some minutes. The freshman class is going to play the majority of the minutes at every position. Wait, watch and see

Precious wants to play the 3 in the NBA. If he can handle the responsibilities at all, I say throw him in at the 3 and DJ at the 4.

he is the modern day NBA 4, he will be at the 4 and the way to maximize James and Precious is to have shooting and spacing on the floor. DJ will play lots of minutes, but starting is very unlikely. Plus with James and Precious he is not going to have to adjust to not being the one option and being a passer.

I will take bets right now that DJ starts or plays top 5 minutes. We can get Jason to hold the money.

(08-19-2019 10:49 PM)WiseMan Wrote:  

(08-19-2019 02:04 PM)ktharrisjr Wrote:  

(08-19-2019 01:49 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(08-19-2019 01:47 PM)ktharrisjr Wrote:  all sounds good except memphis will not be dictating line ups for matchups. You have two projected lottery picks that are 7-1 and 6-9, Memphis will be playing big all season. DJ is the backup 4, not a guard or 3 in this system. Penny did not platoon at EAST, but he will get guys some minutes. The freshman class is going to play the majority of the minutes at every position. Wait, watch and see

Precious wants to play the 3 in the NBA. If he can handle the responsibilities at all, I say throw him in at the 3 and DJ at the 4.

he is the modern day NBA 4, he will be at the 4 and the way to maximize James and Precious is to have shooting and spacing on the floor. DJ will play lots of minutes, but starting is very unlikely. Plus with James and Precious he is not going to have to adjust to not being the one option and being a passer.

I will take bets right now that DJ starts or plays top 5 minutes. We can get Jason to hold the money.

hedging your bets, as he will play top 5 minutes, but starting is unlikely. too much stock in bahamas trip without the two best prospects on the team. he will not be the number 1 option scoring.

(08-20-2019 10:18 AM)ktharrisjr Wrote:  

(08-19-2019 10:49 PM)WiseMan Wrote:  

(08-19-2019 02:04 PM)ktharrisjr Wrote:  

(08-19-2019 01:49 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(08-19-2019 01:47 PM)ktharrisjr Wrote:  all sounds good except memphis will not be dictating line ups for matchups. You have two projected lottery picks that are 7-1 and 6-9, Memphis will be playing big all season. DJ is the backup 4, not a guard or 3 in this system. Penny did not platoon at EAST, but he will get guys some minutes. The freshman class is going to play the majority of the minutes at every position. Wait, watch and see

Precious wants to play the 3 in the NBA. If he can handle the responsibilities at all, I say throw him in at the 3 and DJ at the 4.

he is the modern day NBA 4, he will be at the 4 and the way to maximize James and Precious is to have shooting and spacing on the floor. DJ will play lots of minutes, but starting is very unlikely. Plus with James and Precious he is not going to have to adjust to not being the one option and being a passer.

I will take bets right now that DJ starts or plays top 5 minutes. We can get Jason to hold the money.

hedging your bets, as he will play top 5 minutes, but starting is unlikely. too much stock in bahamas trip without the two best prospects on the team. he will not be the number 1 option scoring.

Lester will be leading scorer-August prediction

With no walkons ... And considering our lineup ... We're gonna kill a lot of teams this season.
Mop up time will be brutal !!

(08-20-2019 11:02 AM)WiseMan Wrote:  

(08-20-2019 10:18 AM)ktharrisjr Wrote:  

(08-19-2019 10:49 PM)WiseMan Wrote:  

(08-19-2019 02:04 PM)ktharrisjr Wrote:  

(08-19-2019 01:49 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Precious wants to play the 3 in the NBA. If he can handle the responsibilities at all, I say throw him in at the 3 and DJ at the 4.

he is the modern day NBA 4, he will be at the 4 and the way to maximize James and Precious is to have shooting and spacing on the floor. DJ will play lots of minutes, but starting is very unlikely. Plus with James and Precious he is not going to have to adjust to not being the one option and being a passer.

I will take bets right now that DJ starts or plays top 5 minutes. We can get Jason to hold the money.

hedging your bets, as he will play top 5 minutes, but starting is unlikely. too much stock in bahamas trip without the two best prospects on the team. he will not be the number 1 option scoring.

Lester will be leading scorer-August prediction

He was the 6th leading scorer in August at the Bahamas without Precious and Wiseman playing. Why would you think he would be the leading scorer?

(08-20-2019 01:18 PM)mairving Wrote:  

(08-20-2019 11:02 AM)WiseMan Wrote:  

(08-20-2019 10:18 AM)ktharrisjr Wrote:  

(08-19-2019 10:49 PM)WiseMan Wrote:  

(08-19-2019 02:04 PM)ktharrisjr Wrote:  he is the modern day NBA 4, he will be at the 4 and the way to maximize James and Precious is to have shooting and spacing on the floor. DJ will play lots of minutes, but starting is very unlikely. Plus with James and Precious he is not going to have to adjust to not being the one option and being a passer.

I will take bets right now that DJ starts or plays top 5 minutes. We can get Jason to hold the money.

hedging your bets, as he will play top 5 minutes, but starting is unlikely. too much stock in bahamas trip without the two best prospects on the team. he will not be the number 1 option scoring.

Lester will be leading scorer-August prediction

He was the 6th leading scorer in August at the Bahamas without Precious and Wiseman playing. Why would you think he would be the leading scorer?

Because he is best best 3pt shooter we have and he doesn’t mind mixing it up and getting close to the basket. Also has a good first step.

I don't think the starters or positions matter that much. Penny will play at least 9, and maybe 10 if/when Dandridge returns healthy.

The top 6 (in no particular order) will likely be Wiseman, Precious, DJ, Lester, Boogie, Baugh. Who starts and what position they play will likely be flexible.

Tyler, Lomax and Lance will also be in the rotation. Jayden may get a little play, and Maurice until Dandridge returns. I think Boyce is odd man out, although he's a good player.

(08-16-2019 11:04 AM)WiseMan Wrote:  

(08-16-2019 09:40 AM)rolexjames Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 11:58 PM)Mimi Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 07:10 PM)rolexjames Wrote:  I think Malcolm, Tyler and Alo will be a part of that group. It was great to see Damion Baugh hit his 3's today. Took them with confidence and no hesitation.

They absolutely will, and Maurice will too

Lineup will tighten for sure, but we really have little idea, outside of Wiseman and Precious, who will be in the late season 8-9 man rotation

May stay at 10-11 all year but doubt it

I could see it staying at 10-11. Penny played a lot of players last year. Cody Toppert says we have 11 guys who can play after college at various levels. Foul trouble may dictate who is in at the end of the game but if you lose one it's nice to know we have others.

Will be 7-8 in NCAA tournament. Every good coach tightens rotation. You can bring up teams that play 10 guys but they are exception rather than rule.

Not trying to be disrespectful but we have 9-10 players highly capable of playing in NCAA games. It will come down to match ups which is where a NBA staff should be successful.

For example: Tyler may be a perfect match up against a team with smaller guards and a terrible match up vs a team with taller guards. Same with Alo.

I know the conventional wisdom calls for the rotation to tighten in intense games and in March, but I don’t think Penny reveres college conventional wisdom all that much. He respects and loves the game but he didn’t build the roster to act like everyone else

(08-21-2019 11:13 PM)tigerbluejs Wrote:  I know the conventional wisdom calls for the rotation to tighten in intense games and in March, but I don’t think Penny reveres college conventional wisdom all that much. He respects and loves the game but he didn’t build the roster to act like everyone else

Penny likes to win...

If he feels his best 7/8 can give the required effort for a game I would think that is who he is going to roll with if that is what it takes to win.

(08-21-2019 10:56 PM)Nobody4Prez Wrote:  

(08-16-2019 11:04 AM)WiseMan Wrote:  

(08-16-2019 09:40 AM)rolexjames Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 11:58 PM)Mimi Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 07:10 PM)rolexjames Wrote:  I think Malcolm, Tyler and Alo will be a part of that group. It was great to see Damion Baugh hit his 3's today. Took them with confidence and no hesitation.

They absolutely will, and Maurice will too

Lineup will tighten for sure, but we really have little idea, outside of Wiseman and Precious, who will be in the late season 8-9 man rotation

May stay at 10-11 all year but doubt it

I could see it staying at 10-11. Penny played a lot of players last year. Cody Toppert says we have 11 guys who can play after college at various levels. Foul trouble may dictate who is in at the end of the game but if you lose one it's nice to know we have others.

Will be 7-8 in NCAA tournament. Every good coach tightens rotation. You can bring up teams that play 10 guys but they are exception rather than rule.

Not trying to be disrespectful but we have 9-10 players highly capable of playing in NCAA games. It will come down to match ups which is where a NBA staff should be successful.

For example: Tyler may be a perfect match up against a team with smaller guards and a terrible match up vs a team with taller guards. Same with Alo.

Which doesn't necessarily mean more players playing meaningful minutes.

I would start Wiseman, Achuiwa, Jefferies, Ellis and Baugh

But

Penny will start for the first game

Wiseman, Achuiwa, Jefferies, Lomax and Harris.

Lomax, Harris, Baugh, Quinones will be fighting it out all season long. Often Ellis and two more guards will be on the floor together.

If I was Dandridge, I'd take a red shirt and get completely healthy and kick butt next season.

(08-23-2019 01:36 PM)cmt Wrote:  I would start Wiseman, Achuiwa, Jefferies, Ellis and Baugh

But

Penny will start for the first game

Wiseman, Achuiwa, Jefferies, Lomax and Harris.

Lomax, Harris, Baugh, Quinones will be fighting it out all season long. Often Ellis and two more guards will be on the floor together.

If I was Dandridge, I'd take a red shirt and get completely healthy and kick butt next season.

Lomax and Harris have zero chance at starting. None. Jeffries will be 6th man barring injury

(08-23-2019 03:08 PM)ktharrisjr Wrote:  

(08-23-2019 01:36 PM)cmt Wrote:  I would start Wiseman, Achuiwa, Jefferies, Ellis and Baugh

But

Penny will start for the first game

Wiseman, Achuiwa, Jefferies, Lomax and Harris.

Lomax, Harris, Baugh, Quinones will be fighting it out all season long. Often Ellis and two more guards will be on the floor together.

If I was Dandridge, I'd take a red shirt and get completely healthy and kick butt next season.

Lomax and Harris have zero chance at starting. None. Jeffries will be 6th man barring injury

We are somewhat thin in front court now. We need Dandridge. Saw what happened with thin front court and foul trouble in 2008 NC game. Need everyone in front court to prevent that.

(08-23-2019 03:16 PM)WiseMan Wrote:  

(08-23-2019 03:08 PM)ktharrisjr Wrote:  

(08-23-2019 01:36 PM)cmt Wrote:  I would start Wiseman, Achuiwa, Jefferies, Ellis and Baugh

But

Penny will start for the first game

Wiseman, Achuiwa, Jefferies, Lomax and Harris.

Lomax, Harris, Baugh, Quinones will be fighting it out all season long. Often Ellis and two more guards will be on the floor together.

If I was Dandridge, I'd take a red shirt and get completely healthy and kick butt next season.

Lomax and Harris have zero chance at starting. None. Jeffries will be 6th man barring injury

We are somewhat thin in front court now. We need Dandridge. Saw what happened with thin front court and foul trouble in 2008 NC game. Need everyone in front court to prevent that.

Are Wiseman, Achuiwa, Thomas, Maurice and Jefferies better than Dorsey, Taggart, Dozier and Niles. We played CDR and Antonio Anderson, big guards, not true 3's or 4's. All we need is for one of these frosh to be a real live superstar.

(08-23-2019 04:37 PM)cmt Wrote:  

(08-23-2019 03:16 PM)WiseMan Wrote:  

(08-23-2019 03:08 PM)ktharrisjr Wrote:  

(08-23-2019 01:36 PM)cmt Wrote:  I would start Wiseman, Achuiwa, Jefferies, Ellis and Baugh

But

Penny will start for the first game

Wiseman, Achuiwa, Jefferies, Lomax and Harris.

Lomax, Harris, Baugh, Quinones will be fighting it out all season long. Often Ellis and two more guards will be on the floor together.

If I was Dandridge, I'd take a red shirt and get completely healthy and kick butt next season.

Lomax and Harris have zero chance at starting. None. Jeffries will be 6th man barring injury

We are somewhat thin in front court now. We need Dandridge. Saw what happened with thin front court and foul trouble in 2008 NC game. Need everyone in front court to prevent that.

Are Wiseman, Achuiwa, Thomas, Maurice and Jefferies better than Dorsey, Taggart, Dozier and Niles. We played CDR and Antonio Anderson, big guards, not true 3's or 4's. All we need is for one of these frosh to be a real live superstar.

To answer the question at this point: not they are not college better due to
Experience. If James and maybe Precious foul out against a team loaded with bigs as Kansas was, how are our young guards going to be able to do what Drose, CDR and AA couldn’t do. Win the game. Once Dorsey fouled out, it looked like the team thought it was over. Of course, they were probably shell shocked about losing an 11 point lead late.

But I think most get my point. We can never have enough bigs. And I will say it again: DJ will play starter minutes this season.

(08-23-2019 03:08 PM)ktharrisjr Wrote:  

(08-23-2019 01:36 PM)cmt Wrote:  I would start Wiseman, Achuiwa, Jefferies, Ellis and Baugh

But

Penny will start for the first game

Wiseman, Achuiwa, Jefferies, Lomax and Harris.

Lomax, Harris, Baugh, Quinones will be fighting it out all season long. Often Ellis and two more guards will be on the floor together.

If I was Dandridge, I'd take a red shirt and get completely healthy and kick butt next season.

Lomax and Harris have zero chance at starting. None. Jeffries will be 6th man barring injury

You may be right about Lomax and Harris, but think Jeffries starts along with Wiseman, Achuiwa, Ellis, and Quinones. With Baugh being the 1st off the bench.

(08-23-2019 05:51 PM)sherekhan Wrote:  

(08-23-2019 03:08 PM)ktharrisjr Wrote:  

(08-23-2019 01:36 PM)cmt Wrote:  I would start Wiseman, Achuiwa, Jefferies, Ellis and Baugh

But

Penny will start for the first game

Wiseman, Achuiwa, Jefferies, Lomax and Harris.

Lomax, Harris, Baugh, Quinones will be fighting it out all season long. Often Ellis and two more guards will be on the floor together.

If I was Dandridge, I'd take a red shirt and get completely healthy and kick butt next season.

Lomax and Harris have zero chance at starting. None. Jeffries will be 6th man barring injury

You may be right about Lomax and Harris, but think Jeffries starts along with Wiseman, Achuiwa, Ellis, and Quinones. With Baugh being the 1st off the bench.

This.

Yeah, I have a hard time seeing DJ not starting. He is too versatile and too good of a player. Like Madlock said on the radio today, DJ can play the 2-4 positions. I can see him starting as the 3, Precious at the 4, Wiseman 5. The guard spots is where I would have the biggest problem choosing starters. Hard to choose which of Baugh, Boogie, Quinones I would start. Then you have Harris and ALo right in the wings ready to play.

(08-16-2019 10:58 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 06:27 PM)dan o Wrote:  Starters just really don't matter

Rotation

Starters don't matter to fans. Some of our most beloved of all time came off the bench for parts of their careers.

But starters matter to kids. They will say they don't. And many will be fine for a while. But at some point, it matters to elite competitors.

WINNING supercedes EVERYTHING.... especially at a high level and players getting “next level” coinage and being drafted as “ high” lottery picks....If ANY of the aforementioned are NOT happening...the streets will talk and players either defect, or choose to not come here....I believe in” The Penny Effect” and see us having a-line of future ALLSTARS ready to suit as a TIGER