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RE: Starting 5
He’s going to play all of them. 9 to 10 players
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RE: Starting 5
(08-19-2019 12:08 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote: He’s going to play all of them. 9 to 10 players
You are correct
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RE: Starting 5
(08-19-2019 02:39 AM)Joe1 Wrote: (08-19-2019 12:08 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote: He’s going to play all of them. 9 to 10 players
You are correct
In fact, since I am a unpaid basketball expert without ever even coaching a game, I would definitely start a different line up in every single game. The stars won't mind not starting once in a while and everybody else would love to say they started for a national championship team. The first 5 minutes of most college basketball games rarely effect the final outcome.
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RE: Starting 5
Last season it was apparent that both Alex and Tyler would flourish when neither had to be THE GUY. Yesterday's game provided an interesting (to me, at least) glimpse into this.
Our two diminutive guards combined for 9 of 19 shooting (47%). Tyler went 2 of 6 from three point range and Alex didn't attempt a 3. In addition they combined for 10 rebounds, 6 steals, 11 assists and ZERO turnovers.
Zero.
Yeah, they weren't playing the Raptors, I get that. But I think this is the kind of thing you take an overseas trip to find out. To experiment.
I'll stand with those who predict great things not just for the Tigers this year, but also for Tyler and Alex.
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RE: Starting 5
(08-19-2019 09:17 AM)holyterror Wrote: Last season it was apparent that both Alex and Tyler would flourish when neither had to be THE GUY. Yesterday's game provided an interesting (to me, at least) glimpse into this.
Our two diminutive guards combined for 9 of 19 shooting (47%). Tyler went 2 of 6 from three point range and Alex didn't attempt a 3. In addition they combined for 10 rebounds, 6 steals, 11 assists and ZERO turnovers.
Zero.
Yeah, they weren't playing the Raptors, I get that. But I think this is the kind of thing you take an overseas trip to find out. To experiment.
I'll stand with those who predict great things not just for the Tigers this year, but also for Tyler and Alex.
Reason for lack of turnovers is neither was primary ball handler for whole lot of minutes. Baugh (most of all)), Lester to lesser extent handled the ball a good bit.
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RE: Starting 5
(08-17-2019 12:48 PM)TripleA Wrote: (08-17-2019 12:03 PM)steves Wrote: I imagine the Isaiah Stokes stuff is rekindling these MD redshirt rumors and I can see why.
Why else do you burn a scholly on a 6'7" overweight post player. You don't unless Dandrich can't go this year. That's a two year burn I believe ... So ...
But Stokes most likely has to sit a year, and MD will be playing by then, even if he's redshirted, so I don't see the connection.
At the same time, we lose 3 front court guys next year. Stokes gives you a head start with some depth from a kid just 2 years ago ranked comparably to Dandridge and Baugh in this year's class. His numbers at Florida are comparable to Lance's at L'ville.
If Penny thinks he can get him back, why would we question that?
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RE: Starting 5
(08-19-2019 07:21 AM)cmt Wrote: (08-19-2019 02:39 AM)Joe1 Wrote: (08-19-2019 12:08 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote: He’s going to play all of them. 9 to 10 players
You are correct
In fact, since I am a unpaid basketball expert without ever even coaching a game, I would definitely start a different line up in every single game. The stars won't mind not starting once in a while and everybody else would love to say they started for a national championship team. The first 5 minutes of most college basketball games rarely effect the final outcome.
Your signature pic sums up my reaction to “The first 5 minutes of most college basketball games rarely effect the final outcome”
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RE: Starting 5
(08-18-2019 11:16 PM)Joe1 Wrote: (08-15-2019 08:02 PM)uskjtc02 Wrote: (08-15-2019 07:17 PM)k2tigers Wrote: (08-15-2019 06:15 PM)uskjtc02 Wrote: I don't know who will start but I do know who the top 7 will be
James
Precious
Lance
Lester
DJ
Boogie
Damion
Yep
That’s a great lineup. But I think you need one more great outside shooter so they can’t pack it down low on Wiseman. Lester is a pure shooter. Will be tough to not start him.
I agree. Lester gets starter minutes on shooting alone
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RE: Starting 5
(08-19-2019 10:31 AM)WiseMan Wrote: (08-18-2019 11:16 PM)Joe1 Wrote: (08-15-2019 08:02 PM)uskjtc02 Wrote: (08-15-2019 07:17 PM)k2tigers Wrote: (08-15-2019 06:15 PM)uskjtc02 Wrote: I don't know who will start but I do know who the top 7 will be
James
Precious
Lance
Lester
DJ
Boogie
Damion
Yep
That’s a great lineup. But I think you need one more great outside shooter so they can’t pack it down low on Wiseman. Lester is a pure shooter. Will be tough to not start him.
I agree. Lester gets starter minutes on shooting alone
Agreed,
I doubt DJ and Baugh start together. Whether they are 2 of your top 5 players they just don't space the floor enough to allow others to be effective. The lineup listed only has 1 shooter on it...Boogie.
If I was doing it I would have Lester @ the 3, Baugh at the point and Tyler or Boogie at the 2 and the other two are obvious.
(This post was last modified: 08-19-2019 12:30 PM by macgar32.)
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RE: Starting 5
(08-18-2019 11:53 AM)memtigbb Wrote: Right now, from after the Bahamas trip...
Baugh
Lester
DJ
Precious
Wiseman
ALo first guard off the bench, Thomas first big off the bench.
This is my starting 5 as well. This is very tall, excellent defense, above average shooters,
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RE: Starting 5
What about matchups...depending on the competition?
Our scouting is top drawer, especially now that the lazy one is gone.
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RE: Starting 5
all sounds good except memphis will not be dictating line ups for matchups. You have two projected lottery picks that are 7-1 and 6-9, Memphis will be playing big all season. DJ is the backup 4, not a guard or 3 in this system. Penny did not platoon at EAST, but he will get guys some minutes. The freshman class is going to play the majority of the minutes at every position. Wait, watch and see
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RE: Starting 5
(08-19-2019 01:47 PM)ktharrisjr Wrote: all sounds good except memphis will not be dictating line ups for matchups. You have two projected lottery picks that are 7-1 and 6-9, Memphis will be playing big all season. DJ is the backup 4, not a guard or 3 in this system. Penny did not platoon at EAST, but he will get guys some minutes. The freshman class is going to play the majority of the minutes at every position. Wait, watch and see
Precious wants to play the 3 in the NBA. If he can handle the responsibilities at all, I say throw him in at the 3 and DJ at the 4.
(This post was last modified: 08-19-2019 01:50 PM by memtigbb.)
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RE: Starting 5
(08-19-2019 01:49 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (08-19-2019 01:47 PM)ktharrisjr Wrote: all sounds good except memphis will not be dictating line ups for matchups. You have two projected lottery picks that are 7-1 and 6-9, Memphis will be playing big all season. DJ is the backup 4, not a guard or 3 in this system. Penny did not platoon at EAST, but he will get guys some minutes. The freshman class is going to play the majority of the minutes at every position. Wait, watch and see
Precious wants to play the 3 in the NBA. If he can handle the responsibilities at all, I say throw him in at the 3 and DJ at the 4.
Is there a difference in our system between the 3 and 4? Not a lot on offense but maybe some on defense.
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RE: Starting 5
(08-19-2019 01:52 PM)mairving Wrote: (08-19-2019 01:49 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (08-19-2019 01:47 PM)ktharrisjr Wrote: all sounds good except memphis will not be dictating line ups for matchups. You have two projected lottery picks that are 7-1 and 6-9, Memphis will be playing big all season. DJ is the backup 4, not a guard or 3 in this system. Penny did not platoon at EAST, but he will get guys some minutes. The freshman class is going to play the majority of the minutes at every position. Wait, watch and see
Precious wants to play the 3 in the NBA. If he can handle the responsibilities at all, I say throw him in at the 3 and DJ at the 4.
Is there a difference in our system between the 3 and 4? Not a lot on offense but maybe some on defense.
Yeah and that is really what "responsibilities" I was referring to, if he can guard that spot.
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RE: Starting 5
(08-19-2019 01:49 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (08-19-2019 01:47 PM)ktharrisjr Wrote: all sounds good except memphis will not be dictating line ups for matchups. You have two projected lottery picks that are 7-1 and 6-9, Memphis will be playing big all season. DJ is the backup 4, not a guard or 3 in this system. Penny did not platoon at EAST, but he will get guys some minutes. The freshman class is going to play the majority of the minutes at every position. Wait, watch and see
Precious wants to play the 3 in the NBA. If he can handle the responsibilities at all, I say throw him in at the 3 and DJ at the 4.
he is the modern day NBA 4, he will be at the 4 and the way to maximize James and Precious is to have shooting and spacing on the floor. DJ will play lots of minutes, but starting is very unlikely. Plus with James and Precious he is not going to have to adjust to not being the one option and being a passer.
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RE: Starting 5
(08-19-2019 02:01 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (08-19-2019 01:52 PM)mairving Wrote: (08-19-2019 01:49 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (08-19-2019 01:47 PM)ktharrisjr Wrote: all sounds good except memphis will not be dictating line ups for matchups. You have two projected lottery picks that are 7-1 and 6-9, Memphis will be playing big all season. DJ is the backup 4, not a guard or 3 in this system. Penny did not platoon at EAST, but he will get guys some minutes. The freshman class is going to play the majority of the minutes at every position. Wait, watch and see
Precious wants to play the 3 in the NBA. If he can handle the responsibilities at all, I say throw him in at the 3 and DJ at the 4.
Is there a difference in our system between the 3 and 4? Not a lot on offense but maybe some on defense.
Yeah and that is really what "responsibilities" I was referring to, if he can guard that spot.
I can't think of a team on our schedule in which there is a difference between 3 and 4. Does that mean he prefers to face the basket? I think everybody will in our O. He's a great rim protector, so surely he's not concerned about that.
The current trend in the NBA is to run all things thru your point-forward. Your freakishly built guys who can handle the ball get a lot of action. I guess this is where he's coming from, but I can't see there being much difference between positions 2-5. The pg will have a little different role, but then again, we won't be holding a rebound and looking for the pg. We'll push it regardless....I'd think.
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RE: Starting 5
(08-19-2019 10:28 AM)WiseMan Wrote: (08-19-2019 07:21 AM)cmt Wrote: (08-19-2019 02:39 AM)Joe1 Wrote: (08-19-2019 12:08 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote: He’s going to play all of them. 9 to 10 players
You are correct
In fact, since I am a unpaid basketball expert without ever even coaching a game, I would definitely start a different line up in every single game. The stars won't mind not starting once in a while and everybody else would love to say they started for a national championship team. The first 5 minutes of most college basketball games rarely effect the final outcome.
Your signature pic sums up my reaction to “The first 5 minutes of most college basketball games rarely effect the final outcome”
What game were you at that the winner was decided at the 15 minute mark of the first half? If we're behind, I don't plan to give up and if we're ahead I don't assume a win.
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RE: Starting 5
(08-19-2019 02:10 PM)cmt Wrote: (08-19-2019 10:28 AM)WiseMan Wrote: (08-19-2019 07:21 AM)cmt Wrote: (08-19-2019 02:39 AM)Joe1 Wrote: (08-19-2019 12:08 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote: He’s going to play all of them. 9 to 10 players
You are correct
In fact, since I am a unpaid basketball expert without ever even coaching a game, I would definitely start a different line up in every single game. The stars won't mind not starting once in a while and everybody else would love to say they started for a national championship team. The first 5 minutes of most college basketball games rarely effect the final outcome.
Your signature pic sums up my reaction to “The first 5 minutes of most college basketball games rarely effect the final outcome”
What game were you at that the winner was decided at the 15 minute mark of the first half? If we're behind, I don't plan to give up and if we're ahead I don't assume a win.
When Tigers has Louisville down by close to 20.
When Kenyon Martin of #1 ranked Cincinnati got hurt in opening minutes of Metro tournament in Memphis
I could go on. Most coaches stress the first five minutes of each half to go out and jump on opponents.
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RE: Starting 5
(08-19-2019 02:07 PM)gusrob Wrote: (08-19-2019 02:01 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (08-19-2019 01:52 PM)mairving Wrote: (08-19-2019 01:49 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (08-19-2019 01:47 PM)ktharrisjr Wrote: all sounds good except memphis will not be dictating line ups for matchups. You have two projected lottery picks that are 7-1 and 6-9, Memphis will be playing big all season. DJ is the backup 4, not a guard or 3 in this system. Penny did not platoon at EAST, but he will get guys some minutes. The freshman class is going to play the majority of the minutes at every position. Wait, watch and see
Precious wants to play the 3 in the NBA. If he can handle the responsibilities at all, I say throw him in at the 3 and DJ at the 4.
Is there a difference in our system between the 3 and 4? Not a lot on offense but maybe some on defense.
Yeah and that is really what "responsibilities" I was referring to, if he can guard that spot.
I can't think of a team on our schedule in which there is a difference between 3 and 4. Does that mean he prefers to face the basket? I think everybody will in our O. He's a great rim protector, so surely he's not concerned about that.
The current trend in the NBA is to run all things thru your point-forward. Your freakishly built guys who can handle the ball get a lot of action. I guess this is where he's coming from, but I can't see there being much difference between positions 2-5. The pg will have a little different role, but then again, we won't be holding a rebound and looking for the pg. We'll push it regardless....I'd think.
Any team with two good post up bigs are a big difference between 3/4 and the difference is dramatic in the NBA.
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