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USA Today: 2017-18 C-USA Athletic Budgets
ODU- $44,271,033
North Texas- $38,002,376
Charlotte- $37,919,619
FIU- $35,631,959
MT- $35,353,956
FAU- $35,275,379
UAB- $34,736,287
UEP- $32,855,303
Marshall- $30,612,153
WKU- $30,595,026
UTSA- $30,368,193
Southern Miss- $24,248,720
LA Tech- $23,672,886

https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances
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RE: USA Today: 2017-18 C-USA Athletic Budgets
Change in budgets since last report....

ODU- $44,271,033 -$2,000,000
North Texas- $38,002,376 +$6,000,000
Charlotte- $37,919,619 +$5,000,000
FIU- $35,631,959 +$2,000,000
MT- $35,353,956 +$1,000,000
FAU- $35,275,379 +$1,000,000
UAB- $34,736,287 +$10,000,000
UTEP- $32,855,303 No substantial change
Marshall- $30,612,153 No substantial change
WKU- $30,595,026 No substantial change
UTSA- $30,368,193 No substantial change
Southern Miss- $24,248,720 -$1,000,000
LA Tech- $23,672,886 No substantial change
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Please disregard all of these numbers. They have been proven wrong and very very untrustworthy on many occasions from some of the best in the biz, so please don't post this anymore. I can also post a ton more confirmed & validated info.
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RE: USA Today: 2017-18 C-USA Athletic Budgets
(08-12-2019 09:57 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Change in budgets since last report....

ODU- $44,271,033 +$2,000,000
North Texas- $38,002,376 +$6,000,000
Charlotte- $37,919,619 +$5,000,000
FIU- $35,631,959 +$2,000,000
MT- $35,353,956 +$1,000,000
FAU- $35,275,379 +$1,000,000
UAB- $34,736,287 +$10,000,000
UTEP- $32,855,303 No substantial change
Marshall- $30,612,153 No substantial change
WKU- $30,595,026 No substantial change
UTSA- $30,368,193 No substantial change
Southern Miss- $24,248,720 -$1,000,000
LA Tech- $23,672,886 No substantial change

clt says we will be spending more this year. New coaches in baseball and football both received pay increase over previous coach.
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(08-13-2019 02:52 AM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  Please disregard all of these numbers. They have been proven wrong and very very untrustworthy on many occasions from some of the best in the biz, so please don't post this anymore. I can also post a ton more confirmed & validated info.

They are figures that are reported to the NCAA by the schools themselves and have been reviewed by an independent third party accountant so that they comply with the NCAA's Agreed Upon Procedures. So saying they are wrong or untrustworthy is incorrect. That said, there are many different approaches that schools take in accounting for athletic department revenues and expenses and this is acknowledged by the NCAA. So an apple to apples comparison is not likely to ever be able to be made with this data looking at just the bottom line revenues/expenses. Some information is able to be gleaned from them but take it with a grain of salt. There was a clarification of the regulations made by the NCAA a few years back to hopefully make it more standard that occured after the author of your link did her research so some of what she said should have been addressed. Still, without the reports themselves we can't really know.
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(08-12-2019 09:57 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Change in budgets since last report....

ODU- $44,271,033 +$2,000,000
North Texas- $38,002,376 +$6,000,000
Charlotte- $37,919,619 +$5,000,000
FIU- $35,631,959 +$2,000,000
MT- $35,353,956 +$1,000,000
FAU- $35,275,379 +$1,000,000
UAB- $34,736,287 +$10,000,000
UTEP- $32,855,303 No substantial change
Marshall- $30,612,153 No substantial change
WKU- $30,595,026 No substantial change
UTSA- $30,368,193 No substantial change
Southern Miss- $24,248,720 -$1,000,000
LA Tech- $23,672,886 No substantial change

Since you're listing revenues and not expenses. ODU's would be a decrease of 2M not increase. Expenses decrease closer to 1M decrease.
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Each time I see these numbers it makes me appreciate LA Tech all the more.
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(08-12-2019 09:46 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  ODU- $44,271,033
North Texas- $38,002,376
Charlotte- $37,919,619
FIU- $35,631,959
MT- $35,353,956
FAU- $35,275,379
UAB- $34,736,287
UEP- $32,855,303
Marshall- $30,612,153
WKU- $30,595,026
UTSA- $30,368,193
Southern Miss- $24,248,720
LA Tech- $23,672,886

https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances

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Southern Miss & LT does more with less better than anyone in the country.
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(08-13-2019 09:58 AM)TTT Wrote:  Southern Miss & LT does more with less better than anyone in the country.

And yet so many people think the way to success is just to spend more.
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(08-13-2019 09:58 AM)TTT Wrote:  Southern Miss & LT does more with less better than anyone in the country.

you don't even do the most with the least in your own conference. That distinction goes to Marshall and WKU, by the numbers.
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RE: USA Today: 2017-18 C-USA Athletic Budgets
-Below are the real numbers Western spent in 2017-18. The first number is a budget code for the department.

2017-18
UNRESTRICTED
INDEX BUDGET

ATHLETICS
Director of Athletics 370101 2,484,494
Athletics - CF 370102 80,000
Men's Football 370201 6,967,184
Men's Basketball 370202 2,276,002
Men's Baseball 370203 1,049,275
Men's Track & Field 370204 464,579
Men's Tennis 370205 126,974
Men's Golf 370206 234,777
Men's Swimming 370207 238,982
Women's Basketball 370301 1,515,488
Women's Golf 370302 259,759
Women's Tennis 370303 339,302
Women's Track & Field 370304 591,756
Women's Volleyball 370305 809,709
Women's Swimming 370306 391,578
Women's Softball 370307 741,268
Women's Soccer 370308 722,866
Athletic Facilities 370401 1,119,605
Athletic Marketing 370402 329,897
Cheerleader/Topperettes 370404 41,672
Strength & Conditioning 370405 489,969
Athletic Trainer 370407 1,171,441
Ticket Manager 370408 397,359
Athletic Media Relations 370409 383,340
Athletic Concessions 370417 3,456
Athletics - Game Guarantees 370701 409,650
TOTAL ATHLETICS 23,640,383
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(08-13-2019 01:25 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  -Below are the real numbers Western spent in 2017-18. The first number is a budget code for the department.

2017-18
UNRESTRICTED
INDEX BUDGET

ATHLETICS
Director of Athletics 370101 2,484,494
Athletics - CF 370102 80,000
Men's Football 370201 6,967,184
Men's Basketball 370202 2,276,002
Men's Baseball 370203 1,049,275
Men's Track & Field 370204 464,579
Men's Tennis 370205 126,974
Men's Golf 370206 234,777
Men's Swimming 370207 238,982
Women's Basketball 370301 1,515,488
Women's Golf 370302 259,759
Women's Tennis 370303 339,302
Women's Track & Field 370304 591,756
Women's Volleyball 370305 809,709
Women's Swimming 370306 391,578
Women's Softball 370307 741,268
Women's Soccer 370308 722,866
Athletic Facilities 370401 1,119,605
Athletic Marketing 370402 329,897
Cheerleader/Topperettes 370404 41,672
Strength & Conditioning 370405 489,969
Athletic Trainer 370407 1,171,441
Ticket Manager 370408 397,359
Athletic Media Relations 370409 383,340
Athletic Concessions 370417 3,456
Athletics - Game Guarantees 370701 409,650
TOTAL ATHLETICS 23,640,383

Where are these figures from?
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(08-13-2019 01:41 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(08-13-2019 01:25 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  -Below are the real numbers Western spent in 2017-18. The first number is a budget code for the department.

2017-18
UNRESTRICTED
INDEX BUDGET

ATHLETICS
Director of Athletics 370101 2,484,494
Athletics - CF 370102 80,000
Men's Football 370201 6,967,184
Men's Basketball 370202 2,276,002
Men's Baseball 370203 1,049,275
Men's Track & Field 370204 464,579
Men's Tennis 370205 126,974
Men's Golf 370206 234,777
Men's Swimming 370207 238,982
Women's Basketball 370301 1,515,488
Women's Golf 370302 259,759
Women's Tennis 370303 339,302
Women's Track & Field 370304 591,756
Women's Volleyball 370305 809,709
Women's Swimming 370306 391,578
Women's Softball 370307 741,268
Women's Soccer 370308 722,866
Athletic Facilities 370401 1,119,605
Athletic Marketing 370402 329,897
Cheerleader/Topperettes 370404 41,672
Strength & Conditioning 370405 489,969
Athletic Trainer 370407 1,171,441
Ticket Manager 370408 397,359
Athletic Media Relations 370409 383,340
Athletic Concessions 370417 3,456
Athletics - Game Guarantees 370701 409,650
TOTAL ATHLETICS 23,640,383

Where are these figures from?

Probably from thin air like all his attendance figures.
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(08-13-2019 02:52 AM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  Please disregard all of these numbers. They have been proven wrong and very very untrustworthy on many occasions from some of the best in the biz, so please don't post this anymore. I can also post a ton more confirmed & validated info.

I don't know what to make of these numbers, but I'll say the numbers seem to be strange for the Virginia schools.

JMU with $40 million in student fees?
ODU's total revenues at $44 million?
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(08-13-2019 03:27 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
(08-13-2019 02:52 AM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  Please disregard all of these numbers. They have been proven wrong and very very untrustworthy on many occasions from some of the best in the biz, so please don't post this anymore. I can also post a ton more confirmed & validated info.

I don't know what to make of these numbers, but I'll say the numbers seem to be strange for the Virginia schools.

JMU with $40 million in student fees?
ODU's total revenues at $44 million?

There's some VA regulations when it comes to athletic department reporting that inflates these figures. JMU's to the extreme apparently, they seem to put everything but the kitchen sink in their athletic budget but it's all overhead really.

If you want to see the audited reports these figures come from for any VA school you can search here. Type the name of the school in "Report Title" and Pick "Agreed Upon Procedures" as the category.

http://www.apa.virginia.gov/APA_Reports/Reports.aspx
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clt says we had a typo in our budget, the omission of the blue line extension at a cost of $1.59B. Students pay a ridership fee, our baseball team rides it to uptown for games, and fans utilize it for football and basketball games.

Charlotte has the largest athletic budget in college sports.
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(08-13-2019 08:09 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(08-12-2019 09:57 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Change in budgets since last report....

ODU- $44,271,033 +$2,000,000
North Texas- $38,002,376 +$6,000,000
Charlotte- $37,919,619 +$5,000,000
FIU- $35,631,959 +$2,000,000
MT- $35,353,956 +$1,000,000
FAU- $35,275,379 +$1,000,000
UAB- $34,736,287 +$10,000,000
UTEP- $32,855,303 No substantial change
Marshall- $30,612,153 No substantial change
WKU- $30,595,026 No substantial change
UTSA- $30,368,193 No substantial change
Southern Miss- $24,248,720 -$1,000,000
LA Tech- $23,672,886 No substantial change

Since you're listing revenues and not expenses. ODU's would be a decrease of 2M not increase. Expenses decrease closer to 1M decrease.

My bad. I fixed it.
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