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RE: Free Stuff 2020
A few things

1st, I see a lot of schemes to " help the poor". But the best scheme would be not to tax the first 25K of everyone's income. So why can't we just do that?

2nd, Healthcare, and Pharmaceutical companies. It was a problem before Obama and it's definitely one now. This needs to be addressed by both political parties.

3rd, Student loans. You should be allowed to file bankruptcy on them.
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RE: Free Stuff 2020
(08-14-2019 05:58 AM)hawghiggs Wrote:  A few things

1st, I see a lot of schemes to " help the poor". But the best scheme would be not to tax the first 25K of everyone's income. So why can't we just do that?

2nd, Healthcare, and Pharmaceutical companies. It was a problem before Obama and it's definitely one now. This needs to be addressed by both political parties.

3rd, Student loans. You should be allowed to file bankruptcy on them.

If a liberal does win and my newly minted student loan is forgiven, i thank you all in advance for your contribution
08-14-2019 06:21 AM
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(08-13-2019 06:04 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  
(08-12-2019 01:44 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(08-12-2019 01:06 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  But free tax cuts for the wealthy is a good thing...

So explain something to me.

Why is it greedy to want to keep more of what you earned, but not greedy to want to take what somebody else earned?

We're talking about (relatively poor) people receiving basic necessities like health care and education vs. rich people stockpiling more money / luxuries than they will ever need ... which one constitutes greed?

Why is it anyone's business what someone does with THEIR OWN money?? You baffoons act as if it your right to have some say in the matter. It aint yours!
08-14-2019 06:34 AM
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(08-13-2019 06:04 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  
(08-12-2019 01:44 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(08-12-2019 01:06 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  But free tax cuts for the wealthy is a good thing...

So explain something to me.

Why is it greedy to want to keep more of what you earned, but not greedy to want to take what somebody else earned?

We're talking about (relatively poor) people receiving basic necessities like health care and education vs. rich people stockpiling more money / luxuries than they will ever need ... which one constitutes greed?


Lol

So, what do you think these “rich people” do with their money? Stuff it under the mattress? Bury it in a coffee can in the back yard?

You think, perhaps, they invest that money that may put a “relatively poor” person to work?

Simply put, if I’m a rich person, making 47 Gazillion dollars a year, how does that possibly affect what you can make?
OTOH, if you make me poorer, like this entire clown bus of candidates is currently endorsing, how does that make anyone better off? Are you better off if I go broke?

Poly, think. Think bro
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(08-14-2019 06:34 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(08-13-2019 06:04 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  
(08-12-2019 01:44 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(08-12-2019 01:06 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  But free tax cuts for the wealthy is a good thing...

So explain something to me.

Why is it greedy to want to keep more of what you earned, but not greedy to want to take what somebody else earned?

We're talking about (relatively poor) people receiving basic necessities like health care and education vs. rich people stockpiling more money / luxuries than they will ever need ... which one constitutes greed?

Why is it anyone's business what someone does with THEIR OWN money?? You baffoons act as if it your right to have some say in the matter. It aint yours!

The green eyed monster, jealousy.
08-14-2019 06:59 AM
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(08-13-2019 06:04 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  
(08-12-2019 01:44 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(08-12-2019 01:06 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  But free tax cuts for the wealthy is a good thing...

So explain something to me.

Why is it greedy to want to keep more of what you earned, but not greedy to want to take what somebody else earned?

We're talking about (relatively poor) people receiving basic necessities like health care and education vs. rich people stockpiling more money / luxuries than they will ever need ... which one constitutes greed?

If I worked my way up from being a deck hand on an oil rig to being a senior VP for Exxon, shouldn't I be able to enjoy what I've worked for vs it being taken away and given to the guy who thinks it's too much to work part time at McDonald's flipping burgers..

Sorry not my f'n problem.
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RE: Free Stuff 2020
(08-14-2019 05:58 AM)hawghiggs Wrote:  A few things

1st, I see a lot of schemes to " help the poor". But the best scheme would be not to tax the first 25K of everyone's income. So why can't we just do that?

2nd, Healthcare, and Pharmaceutical companies. It was a problem before Obama and it's definitely one now. This needs to be addressed by both political parties.

3rd, Student loans. You should be allowed to file bankruptcy on them.

File bankruptcy on a student loan would do more harm than good, because correct me if I'm wrong but filing bankruptcy on anything ruins credit.. So then you'll be wanting to do something else because now people can't get a nice house in a good neighborhood cause their credit sucks from declaring bankruptcy..
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RE: Free Stuff 2020
(08-13-2019 06:04 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  
(08-12-2019 01:44 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(08-12-2019 01:06 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  But free tax cuts for the wealthy is a good thing...
So explain something to me.
Why is it greedy to want to keep more of what you earned, but not greedy to want to take what somebody else earned?
We're talking about (relatively poor) people receiving basic necessities like health care and education vs. rich people stockpiling more money / luxuries than they will ever need ... which one constitutes greed?

The one demanding somebody else's money instead of going out and working for his/her own. Greed is wanting more. Sinful greed is wanting what is rightfully somebody else's.
08-14-2019 08:18 AM
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RE: Free Stuff 2020
(08-14-2019 06:21 AM)solohawks Wrote:  
(08-14-2019 05:58 AM)hawghiggs Wrote:  A few things

1st, I see a lot of schemes to " help the poor". But the best scheme would be not to tax the first 25K of everyone's income. So why can't we just do that?

2nd, Healthcare, and Pharmaceutical companies. It was a problem before Obama and it's definitely one now. This needs to be addressed by both political parties.

3rd, Student loans. You should be allowed to file bankruptcy on them.

If a liberal does win and my newly minted student loan is forgiven, i thank you all in advance for your contribution

You actually think a politician would keep their promises? And if they do, you are welcome.

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(08-14-2019 07:28 AM)gdunn Wrote:  
(08-14-2019 05:58 AM)hawghiggs Wrote:  A few things

1st, I see a lot of schemes to " help the poor". But the best scheme would be not to tax the first 25K of everyone's income. So why can't we just do that?

2nd, Healthcare, and Pharmaceutical companies. It was a problem before Obama and it's definitely one now. This needs to be addressed by both political parties.

3rd, Student loans. You should be allowed to file bankruptcy on them.

File bankruptcy on a student loan would do more harm than good, because correct me if I'm wrong but filing bankruptcy on anything ruins credit.. So then you'll be wanting to do something else because now people can't get a nice house in a good neighborhood cause their credit sucks from declaring bankruptcy..

No, allowing someone to discharge a student loan would bring about natural market forces for once to the higher education scam gain. You think tuition would be what it is today if you could get away with not paying your loans through bankruptcy? You think the government - as stupid as they are - would still give it away like candy on Halloween? Nope. Bring some sanity back to college. It doesn't need to be free, but it sure as hell shouldn't cost what it does right now.
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