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RE: Fasttracking St. Thomas straight from D3 to D1?
I think Rowan is watching right now. They will do the same if NCAA approves St. Thomas. They could join New Jersey Inst. of Tech in the A-Sun and football in the Big South with Monmouth.
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(08-11-2019 05:48 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I think Rowan is watching right now. They will do the same if NCAA approves St. Thomas. They could join New Jersey Inst. of Tech in the A-Sun and football in the Big South with Monmouth.

Link? Proof that they are entertaining such thoughts?

Did Rowan get kicked out of their conference?
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(08-11-2019 06:25 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(08-11-2019 05:48 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I think Rowan is watching right now. They will do the same if NCAA approves St. Thomas. They could join New Jersey Inst. of Tech in the A-Sun and football in the Big South with Monmouth.

Link? Proof that they are entertaining such thoughts?

Did Rowan get kicked out of their conference?

You know, we ask repeatedly for links of what he claims and he never provides them. It's like we are the insane ones doing the same thing and expecting a different result.
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RE: Fasttracking St. Thomas straight from D3 to D1?
(08-11-2019 06:25 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(08-11-2019 05:48 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I think Rowan is watching right now. They will do the same if NCAA approves St. Thomas. They could join New Jersey Inst. of Tech in the A-Sun and football in the Big South with Monmouth.

Link? Proof that they are entertaining such thoughts?

Did Rowan get kicked out of their conference?

He does realize Rowan is a public university, right?
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(08-11-2019 06:25 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(08-11-2019 05:48 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I think Rowan is watching right now. They will do the same if NCAA approves St. Thomas. They could join New Jersey Inst. of Tech in the A-Sun and football in the Big South with Monmouth.

Link? Proof that they are entertaining such thoughts?

Did Rowan get kicked out of their conference?


It was posted on this forum before from 2016. The goal is to get to D1 by 2024.

Rowan Students Excited For D1

There seems to be plans for a 5000 seat basketball arena and a 25,000 seat stadium. I got that info from a Rutgers forum.
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This board needs a DavidSt forum where he can post his dreams so the rest of us can ignore.
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(08-11-2019 09:19 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(08-11-2019 06:25 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(08-11-2019 05:48 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I think Rowan is watching right now. They will do the same if NCAA approves St. Thomas. They could join New Jersey Inst. of Tech in the A-Sun and football in the Big South with Monmouth.

Link? Proof that they are entertaining such thoughts?

Did Rowan get kicked out of their conference?


It was posted on this forum before from 2016. The goal is to get to D1 by 2024.

Rowan Students Excited For D1

There seems to be plans for a 5000 seat basketball arena and a 25,000 seat stadium. I got that info from a Rutgers forum.

So, your claim on a Rowan to D1 move is based on info from message board chatter.

You link to a blog post from 2014 by a student that was done as an assignment in his journalism class. The blog ended 3 days later so I'll guess he graduated.

Show an official link to an article on the school's website.
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(08-11-2019 10:00 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  This board needs a DavidSt forum where he can post his dreams so the rest of us can ignore.

The problem here is that it would divert significant traffic away from the Realignment forum, as many visitors tune in specifically for the DavidSt concert. 05-stirthepot
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(08-11-2019 10:50 PM)AZcats Wrote:  
(08-11-2019 09:19 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(08-11-2019 06:25 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(08-11-2019 05:48 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I think Rowan is watching right now. They will do the same if NCAA approves St. Thomas. They could join New Jersey Inst. of Tech in the A-Sun and football in the Big South with Monmouth.

Link? Proof that they are entertaining such thoughts?

Did Rowan get kicked out of their conference?


It was posted on this forum before from 2016. The goal is to get to D1 by 2024.

Rowan Students Excited For D1

There seems to be plans for a 5000 seat basketball arena and a 25,000 seat stadium. I got that info from a Rutgers forum.

So, your claim on a Rowan to D1 move is based on info from message board chatter.

You link to a blog post from 2014 by a student that was done as an assignment in his journalism class. The blog ended 3 days later so I'll guess he graduated.

Show an official link to an article on the school's website.


I posted a news article in one of the threads. I thought I started a thread on this. I just can't find that thread with the link in it.
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RE: Fasttracking St. Thomas straight from D3 to D1?
I remember the Rowan thing coming up before, from DavidSt. Rowan has a NJIT problem. As in, look at how bad NJIT has had it from pretty much every northeastern conference because they just moved up without the firm support from any of them.

I don't know if there's a NEC or America East invite for NJIT coming anytime ever (other than the occasional affiliate kind, like lacrosse got last year), but were it to, it would make Rowan's chances even more slim.

I have heard some of those schools in NJ have considered D2; driven by recruiting out-of-state students, which has been a challenge at some of those places.
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Rowan honestly wouldn't be a bad candidate to move up. They're one of the top state school in NJ, 20k students, and yet virtually nobody has heard of them. I grew up in PA an hour and a half from their campus, and hadn't heard of them, nor did anyone from my High School go there (but we had several UD, Rutgers, Suny schools, etc)
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(08-12-2019 08:47 AM)TDenverFan Wrote:  I grew up in PA an hour and a half from their campus, and hadn't heard of them, nor did anyone from my High School go there (but we had several UD, Rutgers, Suny schools, etc)

Same, and maybe because it went through a couple of names in the 90's, from Glassboro State to Rowan College to then Rowan University. Same goes for TCNJ/Trenton State. Heck, the first time I heard of TCNJ, it was at a soccer game, and I wondered what this random NJ school was (because I never heard of them). To find out it was a rebranded Trenton State.
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(08-12-2019 12:00 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(08-11-2019 10:50 PM)AZcats Wrote:  
(08-11-2019 09:19 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(08-11-2019 06:25 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(08-11-2019 05:48 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I think Rowan is watching right now. They will do the same if NCAA approves St. Thomas. They could join New Jersey Inst. of Tech in the A-Sun and football in the Big South with Monmouth.

Link? Proof that they are entertaining such thoughts?

Did Rowan get kicked out of their conference?


It was posted on this forum before from 2016. The goal is to get to D1 by 2024.

Rowan Students Excited For D1

There seems to be plans for a 5000 seat basketball arena and a 25,000 seat stadium. I got that info from a Rutgers forum.

So, your claim on a Rowan to D1 move is based on info from message board chatter.

You link to a blog post from 2014 by a student that was done as an assignment in his journalism class. The blog ended 3 days later so I'll guess he graduated.

Show an official link to an article on the school's website.


I posted a news article in one of the threads. I thought I started a thread on this. I just can't find that thread with the link in it.

Yeah, sure.
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If you look at the entire New Jersey Athletic Conference, it doesn't look like a DIII conference:


Institution Nickname Founded Type Enrollment Joined Football

Montclair State University Red Hawks 1908 Public 16,660 1985 Yes
New Jersey City University Gothic Knights 1929 Public 7,300 1985 No
Ramapo College Roadrunners 1969 Public 5,233 1985 No
Rutgers University–Newark Scarlet Raiders 1945 Public 10,500 1985 No
William Paterson University Pioneers 1855 Public 10,970 1985 Yes
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College of New Jersey Lions 1855 Public 6,800 1985 Yes
Kean University Cougars 1855 Public 15,000 1985 Yes
Rowan University Profs 1923 Public 18,500 1985 Yes
Rutgers University–Camden Scarlet Raptors 1950 Public 5,450 1985 No
Stockton University Ospreys 1969 Public 7,450 1985 No
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Rowan University Sports Facilities Upgrading

Quote:Rowan University's Board of Trustees approved a resolution with West Campus Fields to lease 300 acres for the development of a multi-sport athletic complex.

The University has been working closely with Elite Development Program (EDP), the lead partner in West Campus Fields, to develop the complex. The plan includes a 4,500-seat arena, an indoor training center, more than 50 athletic fields, artificial turf fields, baseball fields, tennis courts, outdoor track and field venues, a hotel and retail space.


Quote:Steve Shilling, president of EDP, told university officials that EDP believes they will be building the best youth sports venue in the United States.

The facilities are expected to draw 1.5 million visitors a year, primarily for youth sports tournaments and training, and will be the home of Rowan University's athletics.

The plan calls for the complex to be on Rowan's West Campus, where the university began purchasing farmland in 2002. The site has become home to the South Jersey Technology Park. In 2016, Rowan sold roughly 100 acres of the land to Inspira Health Network to build a regional hospital which is currently under construction.

Football Stadium Project

The 50 field sports complex also looks like a new stadium being built. They want to move all the athletics to the west side which means new basketball arena, football stadium and all that. Rowan spent over $400 million on upgrades on campus and new buildings from academics, housing and athletics.

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This is all that they have as an example. Rowan is in Glassboro and like a suburb of Philly on the southeast side. They excell in sports winning a bunch of D3 titles in different sports. They could be like the next Delaware, Villanova and Temple at D1. They seemed to be well funded than NJIT. How many D1 programs can claimed they have a hotel on their sports complex?
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So a link from 2017 and a link from 2009. Well done!

And neither mention moving to D2, let alone D1.
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Mutos Sports Complex

This is from last year. They are still building in that area.

Besides a hotel, they would have food businesses, a sports pub and other retail. Rowan is becoming a town inside a town that way. A hospital right next door to the sports complex and all that. There seems to have been a lot of planning into this.

Seems the person spearheading Rowan's growth is George Norcross who hates Rutgers. He wanted Rutgers-Camden to merged into Rowan. From this point on, it is more political infighting in New Jersey which seems why Rowan been talked about moving up.
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Rowan Could Go To D1 For All Sports


Quote:The university also plans to expand the programs offered at community colleges on weekends, nights and online. Additionally, some of the school’s sports teams, now in the NCAA Division III, could move to the top division, Houshmand said.

Quote:And last year, Christie proposed having Rowan take over the Camden campus of Rutgers in the higher-education reconfiguration. Rutgers students, faculty and alumni protested and prevailed that the flagship state university should still have a presence in southern New Jersey. But as part of the university restructuring, Rutgers-Camden will get greater independence from Rutgers’ New Brunswick-based brass and will collaborate with Rowan on medical science education.


Why would Rutger's students, alumni and faculty care about Rutgers-Camden? University of Alabama students think that UAB should be free from their school.
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(08-12-2019 11:53 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  If you look at the entire New Jersey Athletic Conference, it doesn't look like a DIII conference:


Institution Nickname Founded Type Enrollment Joined Football

Montclair State University Red Hawks 1908 Public 16,660 1985 Yes
New Jersey City University Gothic Knights 1929 Public 7,300 1985 No
Ramapo College Roadrunners 1969 Public 5,233 1985 No
Rutgers University–Newark Scarlet Raiders 1945 Public 10,500 1985 No
William Paterson University Pioneers 1855 Public 10,970 1985 Yes
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College of New Jersey Lions 1855 Public 6,800 1985 Yes
Kean University Cougars 1855 Public 15,000 1985 Yes
Rowan University Profs 1923 Public 18,500 1985 Yes
Rutgers University–Camden Scarlet Raptors 1950 Public 5,450 1985 No
Stockton University Ospreys 1969 Public 7,450 1985 No

I guess the question becomes how do they shape up to NJIT. Even though they've struggled with their D1 identity, I bet NJIT has a much better name recognition than any of those other schools, though that may not all be because of athletics.
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(08-12-2019 11:53 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  If you look at the entire New Jersey Athletic Conference, it doesn't look like a DIII conference:


Institution Nickname Founded Type Enrollment Joined Football

Montclair State University Red Hawks 1908 Public 16,660 1985 Yes
New Jersey City University Gothic Knights 1929 Public 7,300 1985 No
Ramapo College Roadrunners 1969 Public 5,233 1985 No
Rutgers University–Newark Scarlet Raiders 1945 Public 10,500 1985 No
William Paterson University Pioneers 1855 Public 10,970 1985 Yes
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College of New Jersey Lions 1855 Public 6,800 1985 Yes
Kean University Cougars 1855 Public 15,000 1985 Yes
Rowan University Profs 1923 Public 18,500 1985 Yes
Rutgers University–Camden Scarlet Raptors 1950 Public 5,450 1985 No
Stockton University Ospreys 1969 Public 7,450 1985 No

What about it makes you say that?
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