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NFL Get's it wrong AGAIN!
Lets take a break from the politics for a minute - even though this is somewhat political and I am sure that many will blame Trump for this anyways....
There may be more to this story than reported, but on the surface the NFL is getting this one wrong.
Quinn Suspension
What blows my mind is how wishy-washy they are on domestic violence - then something like this they are so decisive and exact..... Again, if the story of Quinn is as reported, it looks like they are going waaaayyyyy overboard.
Then they let that asshat Tyreke Hill pretty much go without even a slap on the wrist.
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08-09-2019 08:02 AM |
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RE: NFL Get's it wrong AGAIN!
Nothing the NFL does when it comes to passing out punishment for violations ever make sense to me.
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RE: NFL Get's it wrong AGAIN!
They need to get out of the investigation business and hand out punishments when the court process is finished.
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08-09-2019 08:42 AM |
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RE: NFL Get's it wrong AGAIN!
I could think of a hundred other reasons, but things like this make me glad I’ve stopped paying any real attention to pro football.
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08-09-2019 08:57 AM |
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RE: NFL Get's it wrong AGAIN!
(08-09-2019 08:02 AM)Eldonabe Wrote: Lets take a break from the politics for a minute - even though this is somewhat political and I am sure that many will blame Trump for this anyways....
There may be more to this story than reported, but on the surface the NFL is getting this one wrong.
Quinn Suspension
What blows my mind is how wishy-washy they are on domestic violence - then something like this they are so decisive and exact..... Again, if the story of Quinn is as reported, it looks like they are going waaaayyyyy overboard.
Then they let that asshat Tyreke Hill pretty much go without even a slap on the wrist.
How are you sure they got it wrong? I'm assuming you must be a Cowboys fan, but the old "it must have got contaminated at the pharmacy" thing is pretty far fetched.
Personally, I think as far as the NFL is concerned, they should be much more cut and dry on PED over domestic issues. One directly effects on field performance, which should be their main concern.
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08-09-2019 10:33 AM |
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Eldonabe
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RE: NFL Get's it wrong AGAIN!
(08-09-2019 10:33 AM)banker Wrote: (08-09-2019 08:02 AM)Eldonabe Wrote: Lets take a break from the politics for a minute - even though this is somewhat political and I am sure that many will blame Trump for this anyways....
There may be more to this story than reported, but on the surface the NFL is getting this one wrong.
Quinn Suspension
What blows my mind is how wishy-washy they are on domestic violence - then something like this they are so decisive and exact..... Again, if the story of Quinn is as reported, it looks like they are going waaaayyyyy overboard.
Then they let that asshat Tyreke Hill pretty much go without even a slap on the wrist.
How are you sure they got it wrong? I'm assuming you must be a Cowboys fan, but the old "it must have got contaminated at the pharmacy" thing is pretty far fetched.
Personally, I think as far as the NFL is concerned, they should be much more cut and dry on PED over domestic issues. One directly effects on field performance, which should be their main concern.
Not me - I am not a cowboy fan at all - I am a Giants fan. It is more of an overarching theme.
The amount of chemical in question was a very minimal "trace" amount. like 1/1000th of what a does is that is needed to be a true masking agent. It leaves room for a grey area discussion.
The NFL could/should have some discretion - they constantly make excuses and and hide stuff for these guys who beat their wives and kids, but some guy who may have inadvertently ingested something and in such a small amount it is meaningless to hide or enhance anything and it is a zero tolerance regardless.
Frankly I am happy that the Giant's don't have to play against that guy in week 1.
There may not have been a true conviction or arrest in Hill's case, but there was enough evidence to support he took part is some kind of questionable Domestic Abuse.
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08-09-2019 11:00 AM |
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RE: NFL Get's it wrong AGAIN!
I have to imagine that anything that could hinder the "integrity" of their game is more important to them then the players breaking civilian laws. Granted, on moral grounds they're going to lose respect there, but in terms of protecting their "game" they likely prioritize and emphasize punishments for infractions that have a greater impact on football itself. Seems logical in that aspect, not moral really but logical.
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RE: NFL Get's it wrong AGAIN!
(08-09-2019 11:01 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote: I have to imagine that anything that could hinder the "integrity" of their game is more important to them then the players breaking civilian laws. Granted, on moral grounds they're going to lose respect there, but in terms of protecting their "game" they likely prioritize and emphasize punishments for infractions that have a greater impact on football itself. Seems logical in that aspect, not moral really but logical.
If the NFL had any of these rules/guidelines from the late 70s-early 90s there would be no NFL right now. All of those guys were doing something and getting into fights and stuff every night. One coach, I can't recall who, may have been Ditka, said if it weren't for football most NFL defenders would be in jail. And that was how he wanted them to be. Nobody would have been able to play.
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RE: NFL Get's it wrong AGAIN!
(08-09-2019 11:28 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote: (08-09-2019 11:01 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote: I have to imagine that anything that could hinder the "integrity" of their game is more important to them then the players breaking civilian laws. Granted, on moral grounds they're going to lose respect there, but in terms of protecting their "game" they likely prioritize and emphasize punishments for infractions that have a greater impact on football itself. Seems logical in that aspect, not moral really but logical.
If the NFL had any of these rules/guidelines from the late 70s-early 90s there would be no NFL right now. All of those guys were doing something and getting into fights and stuff every night. One coach, I can't recall who, may have been Ditka, said if it weren't for football most NFL defenders would be in jail. And that was how he wanted them to be. Nobody would have been able to play.
I think that's all well and good.
So, if that is the case, then stop pretending to have some kind of code of conduct that is loosely and very inconsistently applied. I guess that is the point I am trying to get at.
Just Let each team decide if they want to deal with the public backlash. Just like Kapernik..... if he has enough ability then the tolerance level of off field stuff will be adjusted accordingly.
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RE: NFL Get's it wrong AGAIN!
(08-09-2019 11:40 AM)Eldonabe Wrote: (08-09-2019 11:28 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote: (08-09-2019 11:01 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote: I have to imagine that anything that could hinder the "integrity" of their game is more important to them then the players breaking civilian laws. Granted, on moral grounds they're going to lose respect there, but in terms of protecting their "game" they likely prioritize and emphasize punishments for infractions that have a greater impact on football itself. Seems logical in that aspect, not moral really but logical.
If the NFL had any of these rules/guidelines from the late 70s-early 90s there would be no NFL right now. All of those guys were doing something and getting into fights and stuff every night. One coach, I can't recall who, may have been Ditka, said if it weren't for football most NFL defenders would be in jail. And that was how he wanted them to be. Nobody would have been able to play.
I think that's all well and good.
So, if that is the case, then stop pretending to have some kind of code of conduct that is loosely and very inconsistently applied. I guess that is the point I am trying to get at.
Just Let each team decide if they want to deal with the public backlash. Just like Kapernik..... if he has enough ability then the tolerance level of off field stuff will be adjusted accordingly.
I completely agree. Fsquid was right as well... outside of incidents where the players infractions were due to the integrity of the game, the NFL should get out of the investigation process and allow the courts to determine guilt and go from there.
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08-09-2019 11:48 AM |
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RE: NFL Get's it wrong AGAIN!
The problem with Kaepernik is that he had an offer to be traded when he was with the 49ers.. He didn't want to be with SF and Denver only wanted to pay him $7 million.. He said he wasn't taking a $5 million pay cut and Denver said with the headaches he brought, he wasn't worth it..
He tried out at Seattle but Pete Carroll didn't need him... So if he's not playing it's not the league's fault, it's his fault.
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RE: NFL Get's it wrong AGAIN!
The NFL is like the NCAA in terms of doing the wrong thing
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08-09-2019 03:09 PM |
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