“Too much political pressure from the Me Too movement to not suspend him”

That statement is sickening.

Are we going to let a small group of people change our democracy and our constitution? I’m a fairly non political person but a believer in the laws and constitution of this country. They are being pushed aside as the vast majority is so apathetic that groups like Me Too, LGBQT (or whatever) are changing laws without the legislative, executive and in many cases the judicial branches approving it.

What the hell do gay people have to do with this?

Alonso,
That is a great question, cant wait to hear that answer

(08-08-2019 10:36 PM)memphisike Wrote:  Alonso,
That is a great question, cant wait to hear that answer

This is just one example that LGBT advances that I would have a major problem with given my grandsons are in public schools. They might have a right to choose but not being taught that BS. I’m off this subject. I think most who agree are afraid to say so.

https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/05/11/e...ation/amp/

In what way does that circumvent the legislative process?

I recall reading that Mr. Suttles had worked over the summer prior as an insurance agent and was having some success. It isn't just a pro-NFL career that was hurt by the accusation. I imagine he lost any clients he had (he was NOT making money but he was licensed and probably was setting up relationships for after football).

http://archive.commercialappeal.com/colu...06511.html

What I have told my kids is that premarital sex has far more negatives than advertised and marital sex is way under-rated (something about loving and knowing your wife). It isn't easy but God knows what is best. We just need to trust His advice.

(08-08-2019 10:22 PM)WiseMan Wrote:  

(08-08-2019 02:00 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(08-08-2019 10:34 AM)WiseMan Wrote:  

(08-08-2019 09:21 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Obviously, this isn't just a "right or wrong" issue--it deals with possible constitutional issues.

Is playing football a constitutional right (or loss thereof) or even is being expelled from school without due process a violation? Does a person have a right (property interest) in attending a university?

Then it has to, under Title IX, show some sort of gender/racial bias being involved.

It appears he is alleging racial bias because he says a white kid in an earlier rape event was treated differently.

Interesting topics.

YES AND NO to your two questions but the issue is whether Suttles suffered financial and/or reputation damages due to the rush to judgement. It’s readily apparent that he did. Has to have incurred a loss or damaged. Bowen catered to PC crowd on this one. Probably with pressure from Rudd.

Do not see how he lost financially by the school's action.

The accusation would have kept him out of the last NFL draft even if the school did not suspend him. As he would not have been allowed to attend any of the combines.

Now that the case is not going to be pursued he will not know if he was damaged until the next draft.

The accusation would not have kept him out of the combine. You have a loss of reputation at a minimum and very like a loss of compensation. Who outside of the NFL would have hired him with Memphis admin basically rubber stamping the accusation?

That s*** has to stop. I referenced the 20-30 year old accusations ruining innocent men’s lives. It’s so ludicrous that the highest levels of management has accepted this practice of guilty before proven innocent.

This practice is a very real shift in upholding the principles of democracy and for those who say that just because other ADs (actually school presidents get involved in these matters) have done it, its okay. IT’S NOT OK.

I suppose you are against all pretrial detention the, too? I mean, if it's supposed to be innocent until... then anyone charged with ANY crime should be free until that person is convicted.

Right?

(08-09-2019 08:35 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(08-08-2019 10:22 PM)WiseMan Wrote:  

(08-08-2019 02:00 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(08-08-2019 10:34 AM)WiseMan Wrote:  

(08-08-2019 09:21 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Obviously, this isn't just a "right or wrong" issue--it deals with possible constitutional issues.

Is playing football a constitutional right (or loss thereof) or even is being expelled from school without due process a violation? Does a person have a right (property interest) in attending a university?

Then it has to, under Title IX, show some sort of gender/racial bias being involved.

It appears he is alleging racial bias because he says a white kid in an earlier rape event was treated differently.

Interesting topics.

YES AND NO to your two questions but the issue is whether Suttles suffered financial and/or reputation damages due to the rush to judgement. It’s readily apparent that he did. Has to have incurred a loss or damaged. Bowen catered to PC crowd on this one. Probably with pressure from Rudd.

Do not see how he lost financially by the school's action.

The accusation would have kept him out of the last NFL draft even if the school did not suspend him. As he would not have been allowed to attend any of the combines.

Now that the case is not going to be pursued he will not know if he was damaged until the next draft.

The accusation would not have kept him out of the combine. You have a loss of reputation at a minimum and very like a loss of compensation. Who outside of the NFL would have hired him with Memphis admin basically rubber stamping the accusation?

That s*** has to stop. I referenced the 20-30 year old accusations ruining innocent men’s lives. It’s so ludicrous that the highest levels of management has accepted this practice of guilty before proven innocent.

This practice is a very real shift in upholding the principles of democracy and for those who say that just because other ADs (actually school presidents get involved in these matters) have done it, its okay. IT’S NOT OK.

I suppose you are against all pretrial detention the, too? I mean, if it's supposed to be innocent until... then anyone charged with ANY crime should be free until that person is convicted.

Right?

Pretrial detention requires several things. First a hearing to determine if the evidence is sufficient to warrant the charges against the defendant; if that is found to be true then denial of bail is rare except in the most extreme cases.