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Quote:Trump visited the border city in February for a campaign rally, and according to a Texas Tribune report the president’s campaign still owes over a half-million dollars for the rally.

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Looking for the threads that you started when Bernie and Robert owed similar rally debt... oh nope, cant find it. 07-coffee3
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(08-06-2019 03:40 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  Looking for the threads that you started when Bernie and Robert owed similar rally debt... oh nope, cant find it. 07-coffee3

So. What?

Did you post a thread about this before CB?
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(08-06-2019 03:59 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-06-2019 03:40 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  Looking for the threads that you started when Bernie and Robert owed similar rally debt... oh nope, cant find it. 07-coffee3

So. What?

Did you post a thread about this before CB?

Actually, I did. And in it I showed proof where the city tried to bill about 10 times more than other cities, and the campaign said the city was going to have to offer proof of what they charged before they paid it. Sounds like they have yet to do that.
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More from Hee-Haw "news". Yawn.




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The Drumpf has decided Ol Mejico is gonna pay for it. 07-coffee3
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File This Under: Orange Man Bad as with 99.99% of cb's posts
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Wasn't his debunked a while ago when someone thought it was a big deal then?
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(08-07-2019 07:57 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Wasn't his debunked a while ago when someone thought it was a big deal then?

Yep. The WaPo, or some other fake news outlet, tried to make a big deal about it, but they had to hold up their story until Beto-Cuck paid his El Paso bill off. Once he did, they ran with the "Trump owes money" story, which caused CbBizzle to wet his pants.

The city of El Paso charged the Trump campaign TEN TIMES the amount that other cities have charged for holding a rally, and the campaign said they werent paying the invoice until they proved out the charges. Sounds like the incompetent democratically controlled city government cant do that.
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(08-06-2019 08:39 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  File This Under: Orange Man Bad as with 99.99% of cb's posts

Curious though, you don't think trump should pay this bill?
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(08-07-2019 09:10 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-06-2019 08:39 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  File This Under: Orange Man Bad as with 99.99% of cb's posts
Curious though, you don't think trump should pay this bill?

Two questions:

1) I've seen reports that the administration has complained that the bill is way overstated. Do you think they should pay any bill, regardless of whether it is correct? Is that your practice with your own bills?

2) I've seen reports that the bill has been paid. Has it?
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(08-07-2019 09:10 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-06-2019 08:39 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  File This Under: Orange Man Bad as with 99.99% of cb's posts

Curious though, you don't think trump should pay this bill?

Of course, but not a bill that was apparently greater than any other campaign stop bill for other politicians. Nothing wrong with disputing a bill and not paying until the dispute is settled.
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(08-07-2019 10:09 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(08-07-2019 09:10 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-06-2019 08:39 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  File This Under: Orange Man Bad as with 99.99% of cb's posts
Curious though, you don't think trump should pay this bill?

Two questions:

1) I've seen reports that the administration has complained that the bill is way overstated. Do you think they should pay any bill, regardless of whether it is correct? Is that your practice with your own bills?

2) I've seen reports that the bill has been paid. Has it?

1. No. Of course not, and it's ridiculous for you to even ask me that. 03-zzz
2. Can you link a report?

Meanwhile, the city comms manager said 2 days ago that they had not paid it. Why would she lie about something so easy to disprove?

Quote:According to Laura Cruz-Acosta, communications manager for the El Paso city manager’s office, the president has an outstanding bill of $569,204.63 for police and public safety services associated with a February campaign rally.

“The city staff have followed the process and procedures as it relates to any invoicing that we provide, and we will continue to do so accordingly as per city and state policies,” Cruz-Acosta said. She said that Trump owed an initial fee of $470,417.05 but that the city tacked on a 21% one-time late fee in June — 30 days after the campaign failed to pay the initial amount owed.
El Paso says Donald Trump still owes $569,204 for his February rally

And FWIW - In my dealings with city treasurer's over the years, they more often than not waive penalties and interest if you pay up and ask nicely. I would imagine they'd do the same here. They just want what's owed to them.

And I'm sure you're aware that donny doesn't have the best track record in paying his debts. This is a feature with him, not a bug.
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(08-07-2019 12:53 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-07-2019 10:09 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(08-07-2019 09:10 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-06-2019 08:39 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  File This Under: Orange Man Bad as with 99.99% of cb's posts
Curious though, you don't think trump should pay this bill?

Two questions:

1) I've seen reports that the administration has complained that the bill is way overstated. Do you think they should pay any bill, regardless of whether it is correct? Is that your practice with your own bills?

2) I've seen reports that the bill has been paid. Has it?

1. No. Of course not, and it's ridiculous for you to even ask me that. 03-zzz
2. Can you link a report?

Meanwhile, the city comms manager said 2 days ago that they had not paid it. Why would she lie about something so easy to disprove?

Quote:According to Laura Cruz-Acosta, communications manager for the El Paso city manager’s office, the president has an outstanding bill of $569,204.63 for police and public safety services associated with a February campaign rally.

“The city staff have followed the process and procedures as it relates to any invoicing that we provide, and we will continue to do so accordingly as per city and state policies,” Cruz-Acosta said. She said that Trump owed an initial fee of $470,417.05 but that the city tacked on a 21% one-time late fee in June — 30 days after the campaign failed to pay the initial amount owed.
El Paso says Donald Trump still owes $569,204 for his February rally

And FWIW - In my dealings with city treasurer's over the years, they more often than not waive penalties and interest if you pay up and ask nicely. I would imagine they'd do the same here. They just want what's owed to them.

And I'm sure you're aware that donny doesn't have the best track record in paying his debts. This is a feature with him, not a bug.

Tom I think the issue was, and I'm going off of memory, that there were one or two other rallies in the area around the same time and the Trump campaign was charged 10x as much as the other rally(ies).
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(08-07-2019 12:58 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(08-07-2019 12:53 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-07-2019 10:09 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(08-07-2019 09:10 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-06-2019 08:39 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  File This Under: Orange Man Bad as with 99.99% of cb's posts
Curious though, you don't think trump should pay this bill?

Two questions:

1) I've seen reports that the administration has complained that the bill is way overstated. Do you think they should pay any bill, regardless of whether it is correct? Is that your practice with your own bills?

2) I've seen reports that the bill has been paid. Has it?

1. No. Of course not, and it's ridiculous for you to even ask me that. 03-zzz
2. Can you link a report?

Meanwhile, the city comms manager said 2 days ago that they had not paid it. Why would she lie about something so easy to disprove?

Quote:According to Laura Cruz-Acosta, communications manager for the El Paso city manager’s office, the president has an outstanding bill of $569,204.63 for police and public safety services associated with a February campaign rally.

“The city staff have followed the process and procedures as it relates to any invoicing that we provide, and we will continue to do so accordingly as per city and state policies,” Cruz-Acosta said. She said that Trump owed an initial fee of $470,417.05 but that the city tacked on a 21% one-time late fee in June — 30 days after the campaign failed to pay the initial amount owed.
El Paso says Donald Trump still owes $569,204 for his February rally

And FWIW - In my dealings with city treasurer's over the years, they more often than not waive penalties and interest if you pay up and ask nicely. I would imagine they'd do the same here. They just want what's owed to them.

And I'm sure you're aware that donny doesn't have the best track record in paying his debts. This is a feature with him, not a bug.

Tom I think the issue was, and I'm going off of memory, that there were one or two other rallies in the area around the same time and the Trump campaign was charged 10x as much as the other rally(ies).

If my gas bill is 10x too high, I don't just ignore it, I call them and find out what's wrong and get the bill corrected.

Besides, trumps rally likely required 10 times the resources because it was so HUGE.
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(08-07-2019 01:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-07-2019 12:58 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(08-07-2019 12:53 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-07-2019 10:09 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(08-07-2019 09:10 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious though, you don't think trump should pay this bill?

Two questions:

1) I've seen reports that the administration has complained that the bill is way overstated. Do you think they should pay any bill, regardless of whether it is correct? Is that your practice with your own bills?

2) I've seen reports that the bill has been paid. Has it?

1. No. Of course not, and it's ridiculous for you to even ask me that. 03-zzz
2. Can you link a report?

Meanwhile, the city comms manager said 2 days ago that they had not paid it. Why would she lie about something so easy to disprove?

Quote:According to Laura Cruz-Acosta, communications manager for the El Paso city manager’s office, the president has an outstanding bill of $569,204.63 for police and public safety services associated with a February campaign rally.

“The city staff have followed the process and procedures as it relates to any invoicing that we provide, and we will continue to do so accordingly as per city and state policies,” Cruz-Acosta said. She said that Trump owed an initial fee of $470,417.05 but that the city tacked on a 21% one-time late fee in June — 30 days after the campaign failed to pay the initial amount owed.
El Paso says Donald Trump still owes $569,204 for his February rally

And FWIW - In my dealings with city treasurer's over the years, they more often than not waive penalties and interest if you pay up and ask nicely. I would imagine they'd do the same here. They just want what's owed to them.

And I'm sure you're aware that donny doesn't have the best track record in paying his debts. This is a feature with him, not a bug.

Tom I think the issue was, and I'm going off of memory, that there were one or two other rallies in the area around the same time and the Trump campaign was charged 10x as much as the other rally(ies).

If my gas bill is 10x too high, I don't just ignore it, I call them and find out what's wrong and get the bill corrected.

Besides, trumps rally likely required 10 times the resources because it was so HUGE.

Your own link pretty much states he doesnt have to pay them anything.

In the second quarter of 2019, Trump reported a whopping campaign haul of $26.5 million. But according to the Center for Public Integrity, city officials can’t force political campaigns to pay their debts unless they sign formal agreements with the campaigns. Still, some police groups say that candidates — who often amass multimillion-dollar war chests — who opt to hold campaign events around the country should compensate the cities they visit, even if they’re not legally required to do so.

“If it’s an election event, I would say the city would be within their rights to charge for those extra services that are required,” said AJ “Andy” Louderback, the Republican sheriff of Jackson County and past president and legislative director of the Sheriffs Association of Texas. He noted, however, that it’s the city’s responsibility to negotiate costs with candidates who opt to hold rallies there


Sounds like the incompetent twits of El Paso tried to play hardball with the bull, and are getting the horns.
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And this:

The city helped accommodate O’Rourke’s and Trump’s dueling rallies with security and transportation for the thousands of people who flocked to both events. According to his invoice, O’Rourke was charged roughly $21,000 — which he paid back in May.

A little bit of a difference between $21K and $500K.
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(08-07-2019 01:32 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  And this:

The city helped accommodate O’Rourke’s and Trump’s dueling rallies with security and transportation for the thousands of people who flocked to both events. According to his invoice, O’Rourke was charged roughly $21,000 — which he paid back in May.

A little bit of a difference between $21K and $500K.

There's a huge difference in why robert was charge 21k and Trump 500k. It's that Trump was a Republican in an 80% Democratic city. That's it, nothing else but biased politics and robert is from this town too.
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(08-07-2019 01:39 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  There's a huge difference in why robert was charge 21k and Trump 500k. It's that Trump was a Republican in an 80% Democratic city. That's it, nothing else but biased politics and robert is from this town too.

Again, if trump was overcharged for no reason at all as you claim, don't ignore it, fight it and ask for a revision. If it's so easily provable you were overcharged for no reason, then prove it.
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(08-07-2019 03:25 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-07-2019 01:39 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  There's a huge difference in why robert was charge 21k and Trump 500k. It's that Trump was a Republican in an 80% Democratic city. That's it, nothing else but biased politics and robert is from this town too.

Again, if trump was overcharged for no reason at all as you claim, don't ignore it, fight it and ask for a revision. If it's so easily provable you were overcharged for no reason, then prove it.

I'm pretty sure that's what Trumps people are in the process of doing. However, I'd imagine the city is stonewalling because if that is indeed the reason for the overcharge it's going to be rather embarrassing. If it's not, then an itemized bill should be all that's needed to prove charges, etc.
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