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RE: Preseason USA Today Coaches Poll
(08-02-2019 09:18 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  
(08-02-2019 07:21 PM)Grandgreen Wrote:  
(08-02-2019 06:17 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  
(08-01-2019 08:59 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  I don't really see an issue though. I believe the P5 have won about 83% of their games against G5 competition in the last 3 years. Altogether, there were 57 teams getting votes in that coaches poll, and 46 of them are P5, which is 81%. When you win less than 1 in every 5 games against someone else, you're just not gonna be seen on equal footing, nor should you. I'll probably have some bum-rush my comment for saying that, but that's fine.

You're not wrong. Until G5 programs start evening the playing field ON THE FIELD... why would they give more respect?

You would have a better point, if most of those loses hadn't occurred away.

Big scheduling and massive budget advantages are also impossible for G5's to overcome relative to P5"s. Add to that the vast difference in media coverage and it is almost impossible for a non-P5 team to advance up the athletic hierarchy.

Rankings are not based on a curve, but failure to recognize the inequity in P5/G5 matchups is also not fair.

It's not about making a point, it's about reality. Top teams in the country win home and away... and G5 programs HAVE to do that at places like Wake Forest, Missouri, Oregon State, Georgia Tech, whoever it is that we're facing.

Yeah, everyone understands if Alabama whips us in a money grab game. But we should be beating mid to low range P5s. At least the top teams should be. Gets old having crappy OOC and then cannibalizing each other in conference play so no one gets noticed.
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RE: Preseason USA Today Coaches Poll
(08-02-2019 07:21 PM)Grandgreen Wrote:  
(08-02-2019 06:17 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  
(08-01-2019 08:59 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  I don't really see an issue though. I believe the P5 have won about 83% of their games against G5 competition in the last 3 years. Altogether, there were 57 teams getting votes in that coaches poll, and 46 of them are P5, which is 81%. When you win less than 1 in every 5 games against someone else, you're just not gonna be seen on equal footing, nor should you. I'll probably have some bum-rush my comment for saying that, but that's fine.

You're not wrong. Until G5 programs start evening the playing field ON THE FIELD... why would they give more respect?

You would have a better point, if most of those loses hadn't occurred away.

Big scheduling and massive budget advantages are also impossible for G5's to overcome relative to P5"s. Add to that the vast difference in media coverage and it is almost impossible for a non-P5 team to advance up the athletic hierarchy.

Rankings are not based on a curve, but failure to recognize the inequity in P5/G5 matchups is also not fair.

You're making my point for me. The inequity across the board is why G5 can't compete with P5.

And regarding your first point about most of the games being on the road, home field advantage is overrated, overstated, and overvalued these days, as it has almost disappeared in recent years. Even so, football analytics only puts it at about 3 points, and most P5/G5 matchups aren't that close.

Theories as to why the home field advantage has been lessening in recent years include the following...

- Attendance is dropping at most schools
- Home crowds aren't as loud as they used to be because of the attendance woes, and because people aren't as engaged when their noses are in their smart phones
- Even if it is noisy, with teams using hand signals and cue cards these days, the effect isn't as great as it once was
- Video reviews might also be diminishing the "homer" factor
08-03-2019 01:45 AM
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RE: Preseason USA Today Coaches Poll
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