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(11-25-2019 12:49 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  49rs and Seattle are looking like the truth.
Dallas doesn't get to the NFC Finals this year Garret has to be gone.


I think these narrow losses by the Panthers, backup qb or not, might have Rivera on the hot seat..... and then the Cam decision will be looming over the franchise too.

The Cam decision has already been made IMO and the team seems to be moving on. Not that the new owner might not want to make a change at head coach, but I wouldn’t want to lose Norv Turner’s offense.

I agree with your assessment on SF and SEA, it doesn’t look like the NFC is as deep as originally thought.
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(11-17-2019 04:23 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 01:04 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 01:00 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  
(11-04-2019 12:59 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(11-04-2019 12:40 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  Changed your mind yet? His passing isn't world-beating but it's serviceable, and he's one of the league's leading rushers. He looked terrific last night. I think longevity of a running qb is a legit concern but right now? Dude's getting MVP talk.

no chance he's MVP. Wilson and Watson are your 2 favorites.... He's thrown for more than 200 yards once in the last 4 games. Sorry that's not sustainable.

Keep thinking those positive thoughts stever! One of these weeks he's gonna stink up the joint but it wasn't this week. Another 200+ passing (could easily have been near 300 but he didn't play in the 4th). I know... TERRIBLE DEFENSE... but his numbers against this terrible defense are miles better than anyone else's so far. 03-nerner

Yes, it'll probably get exposed when he's in the playoffs but that it's WHEN and not IF is pretty exciting for the franchise. There's nothing wrong with getting fired up about watching this kid - he's a blast to watch. Unless you're a Redskins fan.

It was the Cincy Bengals.

Lets see how he looks these next 4 weeks. Houston, Rams, 49ers, and Bills...

Poor stever... wishful thinking is no substitute for analysis!

Well...Lamar Jackson within the past 5 weeks has embarrassed the Patriots, Texans and Rams Defenses....it is what it is...currently the Front Runner for 2019 NFL MVP...
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Ravens 49rs Part Deux in the Super Bowl
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wow....

Saw this stat that just is crazy- don't know that I've seen this before

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Yeah...The Ravens are really good.

I'm not quite sure how the Browns ended up dominating them in Baltimore earlier in this season, but I'm certainly not counting on a repeat during the rematch in December.
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words that the NFL doesn't want to hear-

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(11-26-2019 10:18 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Yeah...The Ravens are really good.

I'm not quite sure how the Browns ended up dominating them in Baltimore earlier in this season, but I'm certainly not counting on a repeat during the rematch in December.

The Browns have played against Lamar and co. three times since last season and are 2-1. There's no reason to think they can't beat them again in Cleveland. Dominate? No. Win a close one? Yes. Cleveland may also be fighting for a wild card slot and the return Ravens game is their second to last game.
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(11-26-2019 10:41 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  
(11-26-2019 10:18 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Yeah...The Ravens are really good.

I'm not quite sure how the Browns ended up dominating them in Baltimore earlier in this season, but I'm certainly not counting on a repeat during the rematch in December.

The Browns have played against Lamar and co. three times since last season and are 2-1. There's no reason to think they can't beat them again in Cleveland. Dominate? No. Win a close one? Yes. Cleveland may also be fighting for a wild card slot and the return Ravens game is their second to last game.

Not really. Lamar didn't start until week 11 last year. In the Browns win last year he threw 1 pass and had 3 carries. So they've split 2 meetings with him as QB1.

Of course the Browns could win this next game. But I've seen several reasons the last 4-5 weeks to suggest they are more likely to get blown out than win. Way better teams than the Browns are getting abused by the Ravens right now.
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(11-28-2019 09:29 AM)BatonRougeEscapee Wrote:  
(11-26-2019 10:41 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  
(11-26-2019 10:18 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Yeah...The Ravens are really good.

I'm not quite sure how the Browns ended up dominating them in Baltimore earlier in this season, but I'm certainly not counting on a repeat during the rematch in December.

The Browns have played against Lamar and co. three times since last season and are 2-1. There's no reason to think they can't beat them again in Cleveland. Dominate? No. Win a close one? Yes. Cleveland may also be fighting for a wild card slot and the return Ravens game is their second to last game.

Not really. Lamar didn't start until week 11 last year. In the Browns win last year he threw 1 pass and had 3 carries. So they've split 2 meetings with him as QB1.

Of course the Browns could win this next game. But I've seen several reasons the last 4-5 weeks to suggest they are more likely to get blown out than win. Way better teams than the Browns are getting abused by the Ravens right now.

Yes, Flacco was the QB last season for the first game at Cleveland but Lamar was on the team and that's why I said "and company." The Browns had a chance to win the return game at Baltimore last season but lost it late in the 4Q. The Browns beat the Ravens soundly earlier this year in Baltimore 40-25 and the next game is in Cleveland. Props to Lamar for playing at an MVP level but the Browns have shown they can hang with [and beat] Baltimore going back to last year.
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Well, not trying to nitpick, but you said "There's no reason to think they can't beat them again in Cleveland".
All I'm saying is I've seen several reasons recently to think they can't beat them. Marcus Peters addition, Myles Garrett subtraction, Lamar Jackson becoming as good as any QB in the league. Now a lot can change in 3 weeks but the current trends don't favor the Browns.
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(11-28-2019 10:54 PM)BatonRougeEscapee Wrote:  Well, not trying to nitpick, but you said "There's no reason to think they can't beat them again in Cleveland".
All I'm saying is I've seen several reasons recently to think they can't beat them. Marcus Peters addition, Myles Garrett subtraction, Lamar Jackson becoming as good as any QB in the league. Now a lot can change in 3 weeks but the current trends don't favor the Browns.

Semantics. I meant you can't give a definitive reason why the Browns can't [won't] beat them again. The Browns are only one of two teams to have beaten the Ravens this season so they have a formula that obviously worked. The Browns are playing better football - yes the schedule has been easier - especially on the side of the offense with the addition of Kareem Hunt. I'm not guaranteeing a victory by any means but current trends don't matter three weeks from now. We shall see.
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(11-29-2019 09:24 AM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  
(11-28-2019 10:54 PM)BatonRougeEscapee Wrote:  Well, not trying to nitpick, but you said "There's no reason to think they can't beat them again in Cleveland".
All I'm saying is I've seen several reasons recently to think they can't beat them. Marcus Peters addition, Myles Garrett subtraction, Lamar Jackson becoming as good as any QB in the league. Now a lot can change in 3 weeks but the current trends don't favor the Browns.

Semantics. I meant you can't give a definitive reason why the Browns can't [won't] beat them again. The Browns are only one of two teams to have beaten the Ravens this season so they have a formula that obviously worked. The Browns are playing better football - yes the schedule has been easier - especially on the side of the offense with the addition of Kareem Hunt. I'm not guaranteeing a victory by any means but current trends don't matter three weeks from now. We shall see.

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(11-25-2019 10:43 PM)Maize Wrote:  
(11-17-2019 04:23 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  
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(11-04-2019 12:59 PM)stever20 Wrote:  no chance he's MVP. Wilson and Watson are your 2 favorites.... He's thrown for more than 200 yards once in the last 4 games. Sorry that's not sustainable.

Keep thinking those positive thoughts stever! One of these weeks he's gonna stink up the joint but it wasn't this week. Another 200+ passing (could easily have been near 300 but he didn't play in the 4th). I know... TERRIBLE DEFENSE... but his numbers against this terrible defense are miles better than anyone else's so far. 03-nerner

Yes, it'll probably get exposed when he's in the playoffs but that it's WHEN and not IF is pretty exciting for the franchise. There's nothing wrong with getting fired up about watching this kid - he's a blast to watch. Unless you're a Redskins fan.

It was the Cincy Bengals.

Lets see how he looks these next 4 weeks. Houston, Rams, 49ers, and Bills...

Poor stever... wishful thinking is no substitute for analysis!

Well...Lamar Jackson within the past 5 weeks has embarrassed the Patriots, Texans and Rams Defenses....it is what it is...currently the Front Runner for 2019 NFL MVP...

Yep - I think it’s his to lose. QBR leads the league, he’s 10th in rushing (before today’s 101). And his team is winning.
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I have to admit, I was not a believer in Lamar at the beginning of the season. All he does is win and prove the doubters [like me] wrong. Credit to Baltimore for scheming to his strengths and not making him into something he's not. The only downside I see is the long term risk of injury with him making so many runs. Through today's game he has 140 rushing attempts. I remain of the mindset that I would rather have my QB focus on passing the ball and let the running backs take the consistent pounding.
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Rivera fired from Carolina.
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(12-03-2019 03:11 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Rivera fired from Carolina.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001...ron-rivera

I can and can't believe it.
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I wonder if they wanted to make sure he was gone, and not take a chance with Atlanta and Indy left (along with New Orleans last game)- that Rivera doesn't get a chance to take it to 8-8 and try to save the job.
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(12-03-2019 05:58 PM)stever20 Wrote:  I wonder if they wanted to make sure he was gone, and not take a chance with Atlanta and Indy left (along with New Orleans last game)- that Rivera doesn't get a chance to take it to 8-8 and try to save the job.

8-8 wasn't going to save it. The trend in winning over the last few years and the uncertainty of Cam's health.... he was on the ledge unless we made the playoffs.
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