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Where will the g5 be in 2026
In the same place as now ?
Mybe a few less teams
Mybe even a few more teams will be added from the A5
I have my bucket list
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I have to believe that some of these schools who are paying buckets of money they cannot afford will drop down. If state legislators continue to clamp down on college budgets, some of these schools are going to have to make the correct decision to spend less on sports.
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(07-30-2019 03:12 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  In the same place as now ?
Mybe a few less teams
Mybe even a few more teams will be added from the A5
I have my bucket list


Maybe a few less teams
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(07-30-2019 03:12 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  In the same place as now ?
Mybe a few less teams
Mybe even a few more teams will be added from the A5
I have my bucket list

G5 will lose 3 to 5 top teams to P5.
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RE: Where will the g5 be in 2026
Overwhelmingly likely exactly where it is now.

But if the G5 has fewer schools in 2026, IMO it will almost surely be because some schools could not afford the cost of constant $25m subsidies for football and dropped out, not because some got promoted to the P5.
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RE: Where will the g5 be in 2026
Yeah I think the g5 will still be much the same but mybe some realignment to save money on travel
I can see the g5 making more money if offered some kind of a TV deal to play for a g5 national championship game proceeded by a real playoff “ ok ok “ so tell me a better way for the g5 to make money when all the dust settles after 2025?, huh tell me something better because all of us g5ers will have nothing better to do but stand there at the airport “ bags in hand” when that A5 ship has already sailed
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(07-30-2019 03:50 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Overwhelmingly likely exactly where it is now.

But if the G5 has fewer schools in 2026, IMO it will almost surely be because some schools could not afford the cost of constant $25m subsidies for football and dropped out, not because some got promoted to the P5.

If there are defections from the Big 12, and the remaining 6 or 7 schools refill by adding 4 to 7 of the existing G5 we will have a tweener conference that will be stronger than the AAC. If that happens I think there will be consolidation into a G4 and possibly even a G3.

There is as much stratification within the G5 as there is within the P5 and between the two.

I could easily see Cincinnati, Houston, South Florida, Central Florida and possibly Memphis getting the call up, and I think the metrics are there for East Carolina if they aren't too much of an outlier.

At that point I think the AAC becomes the best of the rest and CUSA and/or the Sunbelt goes away.

But this only happens if there is movement from the Big 12. Otherwise it's status quo.
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I think it will have a lot to do with what the A5 conferences want to happen to the G5. For all the disparity between them in strength and resources, the G5 does need the G5. I don't believe they will consciously do anything that would jeopardize that.
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(07-30-2019 04:28 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-30-2019 03:50 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Overwhelmingly likely exactly where it is now.

But if the G5 has fewer schools in 2026, IMO it will almost surely be because some schools could not afford the cost of constant $25m subsidies for football and dropped out, not because some got promoted to the P5.

If there are defections from the Big 12, and the remaining 6 or 7 schools refill by adding 4 to 7 of the existing G5 we will have a tweener conference that will be stronger than the AAC. If that happens I think there will be consolidation into a G4 and possibly even a G3.

There is as much stratification within the G5 as there is within the P5 and between the two.

I could easily see Cincinnati, Houston, South Florida, Central Florida and possibly Memphis getting the call up, and I think the metrics are there for East Carolina if they aren't too much of an outlier.

At that point I think the AAC becomes the best of the rest and CUSA and/or the Sunbelt goes away.

But this only happens if there is movement from the Big 12. Otherwise it's status quo.

I'd think Temple would get the call before ECU.
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(07-30-2019 04:54 PM)ken d Wrote:  I think it will have a lot to do with what the A5 conferences want to happen to the G5. For all the disparity between them in strength and resources, the G5 does need the G5. I don't believe they will consciously do anything that would jeopardize that.

Kinda my belief. I think TV see's them as a fairly important as well. I suspect the vast majority of the potential future growth in the sport lies in those 65 less developed G5 programs.
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(07-30-2019 03:30 PM)Big Frog II Wrote:  I have to believe that some of these schools who are paying buckets of money they cannot afford will drop down. If state legislators continue to clamp down on college budgets, some of these schools are going to have to make the correct decision to spend less on sports.

Eventually. The pressure will start building right around the 2026 date mentioned in the OP. There are a lot of G5 programs running big deficits, crossing their fingers, sticking pins into voodoo dolls, whatever, hoping that they will be delivered to the promised land by P5 chaos. If there is no chaos (and IMO there won't be) by the time the next CFP deal is signed, then the G5 programs that are most squeezed by financial and/or political pressures will consider either dropping football entirely or just finding a much less costly way to run their football program.
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By 2026 the G5 will have x2 CFP money and a NYD bowl for each champion.

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(07-30-2019 03:50 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Overwhelmingly likely exactly where it is now.

But if the G5 has fewer schools in 2026, IMO it will almost surely be because some schools could not afford the cost of constant $25m subsidies for football and dropped out, not because some got promoted to the P5.

Agreed.
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(07-30-2019 03:50 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Overwhelmingly likely exactly where it is now.

But if the G5 has fewer schools in 2026, IMO it will almost surely be because some schools could not afford the cost of constant $25m subsidies for football and dropped out, not because some got promoted to the P5.

This is the likeliest scenario.
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(07-30-2019 04:28 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-30-2019 03:50 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Overwhelmingly likely exactly where it is now.

But if the G5 has fewer schools in 2026, IMO it will almost surely be because some schools could not afford the cost of constant $25m subsidies for football and dropped out, not because some got promoted to the P5.

If there are defections from the Big 12, and the remaining 6 or 7 schools refill by adding 4 to 7 of the existing G5 we will have a tweener conference that will be stronger than the AAC. If that happens I think there will be consolidation into a G4 and possibly even a G3.

There is as much stratification within the G5 as there is within the P5 and between the two.

I could easily see Cincinnati, Houston, South Florida, Central Florida and possibly Memphis getting the call up, and I think the metrics are there for East Carolina if they aren't too much of an outlier.

At that point I think the AAC becomes the best of the rest and CUSA and/or the Sunbelt goes away.

But this only happens if there is movement from the Big 12. Otherwise it's status quo.

If 4 schools leave the Big 12, I think the Big 12 rebuilds with 4 of the AAC schools you mentioned. While 12 would be good for geographic divisions I think they stay small to avoid diluting the brand more than they have to.

The AAC will rebuild from C-USA, and in turn C-USA might need a school or 2 from the SBC.

The MAC and MWC will remain unchanged:

Big 12: 10-4+4 from AAC = 10

AAC: 11-4+3 from C-USA= 10

C-USA: 14-3+1 from SBC/FCS= 12
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I don't see any P5 conferences expanding, so in many ways the G5 will remain as it currently sits. But, I believe strains are beginning to show at individual programs. UConn has left the AAC. Tulsa has implied they will use the new revenue from their ESPN deal to subsidize their athletics, and spend less of the university's money. Some programs in C-USA and the Sun Belt are openly promoting the idea of reforming into more regional conferences. And now, the MWC commissioner is talking about contraction.

While I believe no one is moving up to a power conference, I could see a few dropping down to the FCS or going independent. I could also see the most successful and most committed programs organizing into a best of the G5 conference. Sure the AAC currently has that title, but as noted at the beginning of this post, there appears to be cracks in their solidarity.
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If G5 schools cut back it will be by cutting non-revenue sports.
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Much like it is already, on the outside looking in. 07-coffee3
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(07-30-2019 04:28 PM)JRsec Wrote:  If there are defections from the Big 12, and the remaining 6 or 7 schools refill by adding 4 to 7 of the existing G5 we will have a tweener conference that will be stronger than the AAC. If that happens I think there will be consolidation into a G4 and possibly even a G3.

There is as much stratification within the G5 as there is within the P5 and between the two.

I could easily see Cincinnati, Houston, South Florida, Central Florida and possibly Memphis getting the call up, and I think the metrics are there for East Carolina if they aren't too much of an outlier.

If it's six to eight left in the Big12, then four to six get added. If BYU gets the call up and considers it close enough to a P5 call-up to take the invite, that's three to five taken from the AAC, from UC, Houston, USF, UCF, Memphis and Temple.

If the AAC is still at 11, that takes it down to 6 to 8. It can elect to drop to 10 or go up to 12, so it adds from two to six.

If it's two, it can raid two from CUSA, CUSA find it's problem of being oversized has been fixed, and stick at 12.

Quote: But this only happens if there is movement from the Big 12. Otherwise it's status quo.

Yes, sh!t rolls downhill. Otherwise at most there's a school that ends up looking attractive enough to the AAC for it to go to twelve, and then there's a mini realignment which leaves the large majority of schools in the same conference as they are in now.
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(07-30-2019 05:02 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(07-30-2019 04:28 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-30-2019 03:50 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Overwhelmingly likely exactly where it is now.

But if the G5 has fewer schools in 2026, IMO it will almost surely be because some schools could not afford the cost of constant $25m subsidies for football and dropped out, not because some got promoted to the P5.

If there are defections from the Big 12, and the remaining 6 or 7 schools refill by adding 4 to 7 of the existing G5 we will have a tweener conference that will be stronger than the AAC. If that happens I think there will be consolidation into a G4 and possibly even a G3.

There is as much stratification within the G5 as there is within the P5 and between the two.

I could easily see Cincinnati, Houston, South Florida, Central Florida and possibly Memphis getting the call up, and I think the metrics are there for East Carolina if they aren't too much of an outlier.

At that point I think the AAC becomes the best of the rest and CUSA and/or the Sunbelt goes away.

But this only happens if there is movement from the Big 12. Otherwise it's status quo.

I'd think Temple would get the call before ECU.

I agree with either Temple, or BYU joining Cincy, Houston the Florida twins and perhaps Memphis. ECU seems a distant outsider.
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