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(07-31-2019 10:05 AM)elw4796 Wrote:  And...it's Penn. Which is disappointing (maybe an understatement), but I guess unsurprising considering how hard it is to get a good team to play on the road these days. And I mean, just in general, it's a bad schedule. Again. The biggest game of the year is Houston at Tudor and we scheduled it for a Tuesday. That should be the big event of the fall and should be on a Saturday night. Two regular season non-D1 opponents. Houston Baptist, Lamar, and Northwestern State again. Only other good game is against an Arkansas squad that's going to be decidedly average.

I think it's a pretty good schedule for where we're at as a program. A bunch of games we should (NW St, HBU, Lamar, Sam), some games that we'd hope to win given the experience we return (UCSB, Penn, Milwaukee, Liberty, etc), a reach game against a down power team (Arkansas), and a home game against a Sweet 16 team from last year (UH).
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I guess it’s exciting for Pera who is from Pennsylvania but I’m not really sure why anyone else would care. UH is much more interesting. Penn dominated us last year so maybe we can get some revenge.
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I bet that it ends up being a better schedule than the women if we end up playing Liberty. Didn't they win an NCAA game last year?
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(07-31-2019 10:22 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  I bet that it ends up being a better schedule than the women if we end up playing Liberty. Didn't they win an NCAA game last year?

The women are being avoided, especially at home, by good and bad teams.

Kenpom had Penn at 130 at the end of last year so not a real dog.
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We're excited about playing a Ivy League school at home????
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Here are Bart Torvik's 2020 team projections (Rice = 209):

Arkansas: 69
Penn: 62
Northwestern State: 342
UCSB: 186
Houston: 65
Milwaukee: 205
(Liberty): 67
(Morgan St): 271
Lamar: 317
HBU: 263
Sam Houston: 192
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(07-31-2019 10:40 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  We're excited about playing a Ivy League school at home????

It's the first home game of the year. I think that's what they were talking up...
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You are exactly right. The schedule is weak. No compelling matchups beside UH. I'm still looking forward to our progression as a team, but the schedule is a yawner. Penn is no big deal.
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The reality is that the days of seeing Kansas, U Conn, or OU at Autry Court are just not anytime soon. Reality is what do we have to offer Duke, LSU or Syracuse to play here? A big payout that they can't get somewhere else? Heck I bet those get more in revenue from 1 game than the entire season for Rice. Frankly Penn and UH are upgrades over what we've had in the last several years. Become competitive and get in the NCAA's and become a team that others want to play, then you got another thing.....
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(07-31-2019 01:47 PM)texowl2 Wrote:  The reality is that the days of seeing Kansas, U Conn, or OU at Autry Court are just not anytime soon. Reality is what do we have to offer Duke, LSU or Syracuse to play here? A big payout that they can't get somewhere else? Heck I bet those get more in revenue from 1 game than the entire season for Rice. Frankly Penn and UH are upgrades over what we've had in the last several years. Become competitive and get in the NCAA's and become a team that others want to play, then you got another thing.....

Then they'd avoid us for being too good. No one wants the risk of losing to a G5.
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(07-31-2019 02:58 PM)Ourland Wrote:  
(07-31-2019 01:47 PM)texowl2 Wrote:  The reality is that the days of seeing Kansas, U Conn, or OU at Autry Court are just not anytime soon. Reality is what do we have to offer Duke, LSU or Syracuse to play here? A big payout that they can't get somewhere else? Heck I bet those get more in revenue from 1 game than the entire season for Rice. Frankly Penn and UH are upgrades over what we've had in the last several years. Become competitive and get in the NCAA's and become a team that others want to play, then you got another thing.....

Then they'd avoid us for being too good. No one wants the risk of losing to a G5.

that too......
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Big announcement is out - it’s time to renew your tickets solicitation.

Oh yeah, schedule is also out. Playing Penn on Nov 9th
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(07-31-2019 10:05 AM)elw4796 Wrote:  And...it's Penn. Which is disappointing (maybe an understatement), but I guess unsurprising considering how hard it is to get a good team to play on the road these days. And I mean, just in general, it's a bad schedule. Again. The biggest game of the year is Houston at Tudor and we scheduled it for a Tuesday. That should be the big event of the fall and should be on a Saturday night. Two regular season non-D1 opponents. Houston Baptist, Lamar, and Northwestern State again. Only other good game is against an Arkansas squad that's going to be decidedly average.

Just to put a bow on this, because I'm sure I've beaten it to death over the past couple of years, but very few people are going to come to a game against Wayland, HBU, St. Thomas, or Sam Houston. We've gotta do a better job getting compelling schools down to South Main.

That seems kinda embarrassing. I'm not so sure where they're a 'big name'. How about Jennings? But, our schedule is our schedule. How 'bout we win at least 20 of 'em and see what that does.
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UCLA released their women's non-conference schedule and Rice is not on it
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(07-31-2019 11:12 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  
(07-31-2019 10:05 AM)elw4796 Wrote:  And...it's Penn. Which is disappointing (maybe an understatement), but I guess unsurprising considering how hard it is to get a good team to play on the road these days. And I mean, just in general, it's a bad schedule. Again. The biggest game of the year is Houston at Tudor and we scheduled it for a Tuesday. That should be the big event of the fall and should be on a Saturday night. Two regular season non-D1 opponents. Houston Baptist, Lamar, and Northwestern State again. Only other good game is against an Arkansas squad that's going to be decidedly average.
Just to put a bow on this, because I'm sure I've beaten it to death over the past couple of years, but very few people are going to come to a game against Wayland, HBU, St. Thomas, or Sam Houston. We've gotta do a better job getting compelling schools down to South Main.
That seems kinda embarrassing. I'm not so sure where they're a 'big name'. How about Jennings? But, our schedule is our schedule. How 'bout we win at least 20 of 'em and see what that does.

That's the bottom line. Until we start winning and winning consistently where we are, none of these pipe dreams about conference affiliation or scheduling can be possible. Step one to getting out of CUSA is dominating CUSA consistently.
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(08-01-2019 08:38 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(07-31-2019 11:12 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  
(07-31-2019 10:05 AM)elw4796 Wrote:  And...it's Penn. Which is disappointing (maybe an understatement), but I guess unsurprising considering how hard it is to get a good team to play on the road these days. And I mean, just in general, it's a bad schedule. Again. The biggest game of the year is Houston at Tudor and we scheduled it for a Tuesday. That should be the big event of the fall and should be on a Saturday night. Two regular season non-D1 opponents. Houston Baptist, Lamar, and Northwestern State again. Only other good game is against an Arkansas squad that's going to be decidedly average.
Just to put a bow on this, because I'm sure I've beaten it to death over the past couple of years, but very few people are going to come to a game against Wayland, HBU, St. Thomas, or Sam Houston. We've gotta do a better job getting compelling schools down to South Main.
That seems kinda embarrassing. I'm not so sure where they're a 'big name'. How about Jennings? But, our schedule is our schedule. How 'bout we win at least 20 of 'em and see what that does.

That's the bottom line. Until we start winning and winning consistently where we are, none of these pipe dreams about conference affiliation or scheduling can be possible. Step one to getting out of CUSA is dominating CUSA consistently.

Just win. Win this one. Win that one. Win the next one. Win them all.
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(08-01-2019 07:45 AM)dragon2owl Wrote:  UCLA released their women's non-conference schedule and Rice is not on it

Not surprising. We should basically refuse to play any P5 on the road without a return game.
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(07-31-2019 10:05 AM)elw4796 Wrote:  And...it's Penn. Which is disappointing (maybe an understatement), but I guess unsurprising considering how hard it is to get a good team to play on the road these days. And I mean, just in general, it's a bad schedule. Again. The biggest game of the year is Houston at Tudor and we scheduled it for a Tuesday. That should be the big event of the fall and should be on a Saturday night. Two regular season non-D1 opponents. Houston Baptist, Lamar, and Northwestern State again. Only other good game is against an Arkansas squad that's going to be decidedly average.
Just to put a bow on this, because I'm sure I've beaten it to death over the past couple of years, but very few people are going to come to a game against Wayland, HBU, St. Thomas, or Sam Houston. We've gotta do a better job getting compelling schools down to South Main.

If we're winning 25-30 and going deep in the dance, they'll come to see us play the Little Sisters of the Poor. This is one problem I've always had with Rice thinking about athletics. We have to win our way to a program. We can't just schedule other folks and show up. We can't rely on the people we play to build a program for us. We have to do it.
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For the women:
Using the coaches poll, here are last year's top teams (including those receiving votes) that don't have Rice on their schedule: Baylor, UConn, UCLA, Mississippi State, Louisville, Stanford, NC State, Maryland, Marquette, Florida St., Michigan, Boise St., Texas.

Teams left: Notre Dame, Oregon, Iowa, Oregon State, Texas A&M (likely), South Carolina, Arizona St., Syracuse, Iowa State, Gonzaga, Miami, Kentucky, South Dakota St., Missouri St., DePaul, Missouri, Drake, Rutgers, BYU, Arizona, Michigan St.
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(08-01-2019 09:13 AM)dragon2owl Wrote:  For the women:
Using the coaches poll, here are last year's top teams (including those receiving votes) that don't have Rice on their schedule: Baylor, UConn, UCLA, Mississippi State, Louisville, Stanford, NC State, Maryland, Marquette, Florida St., Michigan, Boise St., Texas.

Teams left: Notre Dame, Oregon, Iowa, Oregon State, Texas A&M (likely), South Carolina, Arizona St., Syracuse, Iowa State, Gonzaga, Miami, Kentucky, South Dakota St., Missouri St., DePaul, Missouri, Drake, Rutgers, BYU, Arizona, Michigan St.

Unless it's an agreed-upon return date from a year+ ago, why would a good WBB team play us? By not doing so, they'll starve us of any potential at large fuel and essentially force us to be nearly, if not fully, perfect in both non-conference and conference.

That said, I think we will have some serious opportunities in conference play. CUSA should be really, really strong this year so assuming our schedule is as weak as it looks like it's going to be, there still should be some RPI opportunities (granted this means we'll basically need to win them all). MTSU is particular looks to be really good on paper.
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