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RE: Where will Texas be in 2026?
(08-18-2019 01:03 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (08-18-2019 12:36 PM)10thMountain Wrote: (08-18-2019 12:19 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (08-18-2019 12:07 PM)10thMountain Wrote: Oh okay
Well now it all makes sense
The state of Texas and UT are wrong because someone on the Internet said so.
But I’m gonna go ahead and stick with what the state of Texas says about it’s own public schools
I think what's being argued about is the difference between what's legally correct and what is correct in terms of maybe call it public perception based on certain realities.
E.g., here in Louisiana, LSU is the flagship of the LSU system, and Southern University-BR is the flagship of the SU system, which includes SU - Shreveport and SU - New Orleans.
But nobody thinks of LSU and SUBR as "flagship equals", LSU is obviously the dominant school in the state.
The same idea, though in a much less extreme sense, applies to Texas and Texas A/M. Yes, like UT-Austin, Texas A/M is the flagship of its system. As you point out, that's a legal, state-sanctioned reality.
But nevertheless, Texas is the dominant school in the state of Texas. That's why it alone is colloquially called "Texas", with no other qualifiers. And that's impressive, because TAMU is in every way shape and form a very formidable institution. If it was in most other states, it would be the Big Kahuna state university, bigger than the state's current flagship. Academically, financially, and athletically, it is at or near the very top in the SEC, a conference filled with flagships that dominate their states.
But it's in Texas, and is second-fiddle to ... Texas.
Again, you misunderstand how things work here
Texas has many schools that are the flagship university of their school system
However, the state of Texas designates the special status of STATE Flagship (IE of all its public schools) on just two schools: A&M and UT
No other schools in Texas, even if they are Flagships of their SYSTEM are given this honor
I get that a lot of you are having trouble with the idea that Texas does things a little different but think about it: We’re one of the largest states population size. It makes sense to have more than one school you choose to be your very best and invest more resources into
You seem to be under the misapprehension that my stance is predicated on a lack of understanding of the legal flagship status of TAMU and Texas. That all along, I've mistakenly thought that TAMU's flagship status is somehow legally inferior to Texas's. But as I explained last post, it's not, so your new information about TAMU and Texas being the only STATE flagship schools doesn't change that. Heck, I said as much in my very first sentence, where I made the distinction between formal legal status and perception. From the git, I have it in mind that TAMU has the same formal legal flagship status as does UT-Austin.
But nevertheless ...... Texas is the dominant school in the state of Texas. That's why it alone is colloquially called "Texas", with no other qualifiers. And that's impressive, because TAMU is in every way shape and form a very formidable institution. If it was in most other states, it would be the Big Kahuna state university, bigger than the state's current flagship. Academically, financially, and athletically, it is at or near the very top in the SEC, a conference filled with flagships that dominate their states.
But it's in Texas, and is second-fiddle to ... Texas. It's academically, financially, and athletically superior to TAMU.
TAMU is second-fiddle *despite* the fact that it, and it alone, like Texas, is a STATE flagship institution.
I didn’t argue that part at all
I was informing all those who don’t understand our unique dual status as both Texas’ landgrant university and one of its two recognized state flagship universities
Again, it’s a unique set up
It would be like if Cal recognized both Berkeley and UCLA as it’s flagships. No one is arguing that UCLA is better than Cal but you would also clearly get why given California’s size that it would make sense to treat them both as it’s flagships and concentrate it’s resources on them rather than on Cal State schools
(This post was last modified: 08-18-2019 01:21 PM by 10thMountain.)
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