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RE: Where will Texas be in 2026?
(07-29-2019 01:30 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 11:46 AM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  
(07-28-2019 09:50 PM)JRsec Wrote:  I have a different way of looking at this. I believe that if Texas moves, and I do believe an Oklahoma exit would likely lead to their movement, Texas will make the move that best preserve their business model. That model is predicated on playing at least 7 games inside the state of Texas annually, and preferably 8 games.

They can't get that in the Big 10 because there is no acceptable Texas tag along that meets Big 10 muster. You could say Rice but it won't happen. They are too small to make a splash in any substantial way. If Texas goes to the ACC as an independent and got the ACC to take T.C.U. they would have T.C.U. likely as a required in conference game, they would have 4 more ACC games and they would have 7 games left with which to schedule Tech/Baylor probably alternating home and away and they would get 2 ACC home games a year. They could work it out. But their minor sports would have issues and minor sports at Texas count.

They may not love the SEC but it provides them 4 home conference games and if Tech came with them it preserves the third large state school. Tech's bid would likely be both their price for coming to the SEC and their excuse for doing so. They would immediately have 7 games in Texas if Tech and A&M are rotated home & away. And if they keep the RRR in Dallas that's 8. If not Arkansas would probably gladly take OU's place as a Dallas annual. It gives their minor sports a division to play in that would not vary much farther than Mississippi and Louisiana. It reunites the 3 Texas state schools which satisfies the requests of the Texas legislature, And it gives them Arkansas and L.S.U. back as key regional games in addition to Tech and A&M games. And in a 16 team SEC they would likely have 2 OOC games left to schedule other Texas schools if they desired.

I find that to be a fairly compelling offer from the SEC who with their new T1 contract will be earning somewhere between 57 to 61 million per school payout which would more than cover the 51 million they are making with the LHN and Big 12 payouts. It would also garner ESPN approval.

If this happens I don't see the SEC pursuing Oklahoma and without an SEC invitation the Sooners have their cover to accept the Big 10 offer sans OSU and make that move with either Colorado or Kansas.

I think the ACC then ponders whether to add T.C.U. which is a transportation hub that fits with Georgia Tech and Miami, or West Virginia. I think T.C.U. might win that competition even as somewhat of an outlier if the ACC adds at all.

I think they are most likely to remain at 14.5.

Texas has long preached academics, but the SWC was hardly an academic conference, and the Old Big 12 was a much better one but 4 AAU schools left and 2 of them to the SEC. In the end Texas will move for what best preserves their most successful business model.


Why would their minor sports suffer in the ACC?

Men's Basketball -- very strong
Women's Basketball -- very strong
Baseball -- very strong
Men's and Women's Soccer -- very strong
Florida State two years removed from winning Softball National Title

ACC schools have won multiple championships in Cross Country, Field Hockey, Men's and Women's Golf, and Men's and Women's Tennis.

On the contrary ... I think the ACC's minor sports would be an excellent place for Texas to place their teams.

And the academic match (and academics count at Texas) with the ACC and Texas makes this an almost no brainer, should Texas want to make a move.

Cost of Travel!

Plus the ACC has a bunch of schools Texas doesn’t care about.
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RE: Where will Texas be in 2026?
(07-29-2019 01:42 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Texas would be making around 58 with the LHN by the end of the GOR. Oklahoma would be making around 46. The SEC after their new T1 is signed will be making between 56-61 depending on the final numbers. They all have escalators built into them.

A Texas or Oklahoma added to the Big 10 / SEC payouts would account for another 3.5-5 million per school in payouts. The 2.3 million you cite is of course for the 8 schools not named Texas and Oklahoma and puts those schools around 41 million.

So the operative question is whether Oklahoma would find the incentive of another 10 million to 14 million per year in media revenue tempting enough to leave? That's the 10 million difference they would have with what the SEC or Big 10 will be making without them and the 3.5 -5 million more they would be making with them. And OU, not being AAU, is NOT going to the Big 10.

That's why Oklahoma, not Texas, would be the weak link in keeping the Big 12 together. If the Sooners stay nothing will happen. If they leave it could likely force Texas to do the same.

Projections for the SEC T1 renewal with CBS run between 250 million to 315 million for the contract. At 250 million the SEC's per school payout jumps to 56 million, at 275 to 58 million and at 300 to 61 million. If we take the 250 million figure we renew and start getting paid the jump immediately. If we wait until 2025 we may have a higher payout but will stay at 43.7 plus escalators for another 6 years. We'll see.

No. All Big 12 schools are getting a $2.3 million bump with the new ESPN deal starting next year. UT and OU are getting it because of their share of CCG money and they are getting it despite not providing independent Tier 3 content. So add that right back in (and it will escalate as well). As will OU's Tier 3 deal (SoonerSports).

Projections are projections. The Big12 will get more in the next round too. Right now, UT earns Big 10 money (actually a little more), and right now, OU gets SEC money (actually a little more). The "disparity" at present is the opposite of what you think. I'm not seeing the "weak link." And compared to the Pac and the ACC, it's not even all that close.
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RE: Where will Texas be in 2026?
(07-29-2019 02:48 PM)Jared7 Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 01:42 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Texas would be making around 58 with the LHN by the end of the GOR. Oklahoma would be making around 46. The SEC after their new T1 is signed will be making between 56-61 depending on the final numbers. They all have escalators built into them.

A Texas or Oklahoma added to the Big 10 / SEC payouts would account for another 3.5-5 million per school in payouts. The 2.3 million you cite is of course for the 8 schools not named Texas and Oklahoma and puts those schools around 41 million.

So the operative question is whether Oklahoma would find the incentive of another 10 million to 14 million per year in media revenue tempting enough to leave? That's the 10 million difference they would have with what the SEC or Big 10 will be making without them and the 3.5 -5 million more they would be making with them. And OU, not being AAU, is NOT going to the Big 10.

That's why Oklahoma, not Texas, would be the weak link in keeping the Big 12 together. If the Sooners stay nothing will happen. If they leave it could likely force Texas to do the same.

Projections for the SEC T1 renewal with CBS run between 250 million to 315 million for the contract. At 250 million the SEC's per school payout jumps to 56 million, at 275 to 58 million and at 300 to 61 million. If we take the 250 million figure we renew and start getting paid the jump immediately. If we wait until 2025 we may have a higher payout but will stay at 43.7 plus escalators for another 6 years. We'll see.

No. All Big 12 schools are getting a $2.3 million bump with the new ESPN deal starting next year. UT and OU are getting it because of their share of CCG money and they are getting it despite not providing independent Tier 3 content. So add that right back in (and it will escalate as well). As will OU's Tier 3 deal (SoonerSports).

Projections are projections. The Big12 will get more in the next round too. Right now, UT earns Big 10 money (actually a little more), and right now, OU gets SEC money (actually a little more). The "disparity" at present is the opposite of what you think. I'm not seeing the "weak link." And compared to the Pac and the ACC, it's not even all that close.

The weak link will be Oklahoma and it will be obvious by 2024-5. You can talk about the present all you wish. But the present will be 5 years in the past by the time these matters are settled.
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RE: Where will Texas be in 2026?
I predict that, in 2026, Texas will pretty much be where it's always been: Sandwiched between Mexico on the south and Oklahoma on the north, and hemmed in on the east and west by Louisiana, Arkansas, and New Mexico. And if you're talking about the University of Texas, it'll still be in Austin.
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RE: Where will Texas be in 2026?
(07-29-2019 01:52 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 01:30 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 11:46 AM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  
(07-28-2019 09:50 PM)JRsec Wrote:  I have a different way of looking at this. I believe that if Texas moves, and I do believe an Oklahoma exit would likely lead to their movement, Texas will make the move that best preserve their business model. That model is predicated on playing at least 7 games inside the state of Texas annually, and preferably 8 games.

They can't get that in the Big 10 because there is no acceptable Texas tag along that meets Big 10 muster. You could say Rice but it won't happen. They are too small to make a splash in any substantial way. If Texas goes to the ACC as an independent and got the ACC to take T.C.U. they would have T.C.U. likely as a required in conference game, they would have 4 more ACC games and they would have 7 games left with which to schedule Tech/Baylor probably alternating home and away and they would get 2 ACC home games a year. They could work it out. But their minor sports would have issues and minor sports at Texas count.

They may not love the SEC but it provides them 4 home conference games and if Tech came with them it preserves the third large state school. Tech's bid would likely be both their price for coming to the SEC and their excuse for doing so. They would immediately have 7 games in Texas if Tech and A&M are rotated home & away. And if they keep the RRR in Dallas that's 8. If not Arkansas would probably gladly take OU's place as a Dallas annual. It gives their minor sports a division to play in that would not vary much farther than Mississippi and Louisiana. It reunites the 3 Texas state schools which satisfies the requests of the Texas legislature, And it gives them Arkansas and L.S.U. back as key regional games in addition to Tech and A&M games. And in a 16 team SEC they would likely have 2 OOC games left to schedule other Texas schools if they desired.

I find that to be a fairly compelling offer from the SEC who with their new T1 contract will be earning somewhere between 57 to 61 million per school payout which would more than cover the 51 million they are making with the LHN and Big 12 payouts. It would also garner ESPN approval.

If this happens I don't see the SEC pursuing Oklahoma and without an SEC invitation the Sooners have their cover to accept the Big 10 offer sans OSU and make that move with either Colorado or Kansas.

I think the ACC then ponders whether to add T.C.U. which is a transportation hub that fits with Georgia Tech and Miami, or West Virginia. I think T.C.U. might win that competition even as somewhat of an outlier if the ACC adds at all.

I think they are most likely to remain at 14.5.

Texas has long preached academics, but the SWC was hardly an academic conference, and the Old Big 12 was a much better one but 4 AAU schools left and 2 of them to the SEC. In the end Texas will move for what best preserves their most successful business model.


Why would their minor sports suffer in the ACC?

Men's Basketball -- very strong
Women's Basketball -- very strong
Baseball -- very strong
Men's and Women's Soccer -- very strong
Florida State two years removed from winning Softball National Title

ACC schools have won multiple championships in Cross Country, Field Hockey, Men's and Women's Golf, and Men's and Women's Tennis.

On the contrary ... I think the ACC's minor sports would be an excellent place for Texas to place their teams.

And the academic match (and academics count at Texas) with the ACC and Texas makes this an almost no brainer, should Texas want to make a move.

Cost of Travel!

Plus the ACC has a bunch of schools Texas doesn’t care about.


Yeah .. Texas loves Mississippi State, Ole Miss, Missouri, Vandy, Kentucky, South Carolina, and the other orange UT.
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RE: Where will Texas be in 2026?
(07-29-2019 01:30 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 11:46 AM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  
(07-28-2019 09:50 PM)JRsec Wrote:  I have a different way of looking at this. I believe that if Texas moves, and I do believe an Oklahoma exit would likely lead to their movement, Texas will make the move that best preserve their business model. That model is predicated on playing at least 7 games inside the state of Texas annually, and preferably 8 games.

They can't get that in the Big 10 because there is no acceptable Texas tag along that meets Big 10 muster. You could say Rice but it won't happen. They are too small to make a splash in any substantial way. If Texas goes to the ACC as an independent and got the ACC to take T.C.U. they would have T.C.U. likely as a required in conference game, they would have 4 more ACC games and they would have 7 games left with which to schedule Tech/Baylor probably alternating home and away and they would get 2 ACC home games a year. They could work it out. But their minor sports would have issues and minor sports at Texas count.

They may not love the SEC but it provides them 4 home conference games and if Tech came with them it preserves the third large state school. Tech's bid would likely be both their price for coming to the SEC and their excuse for doing so. They would immediately have 7 games in Texas if Tech and A&M are rotated home & away. And if they keep the RRR in Dallas that's 8. If not Arkansas would probably gladly take OU's place as a Dallas annual. It gives their minor sports a division to play in that would not vary much farther than Mississippi and Louisiana. It reunites the 3 Texas state schools which satisfies the requests of the Texas legislature, And it gives them Arkansas and L.S.U. back as key regional games in addition to Tech and A&M games. And in a 16 team SEC they would likely have 2 OOC games left to schedule other Texas schools if they desired.

I find that to be a fairly compelling offer from the SEC who with their new T1 contract will be earning somewhere between 57 to 61 million per school payout which would more than cover the 51 million they are making with the LHN and Big 12 payouts. It would also garner ESPN approval.

If this happens I don't see the SEC pursuing Oklahoma and without an SEC invitation the Sooners have their cover to accept the Big 10 offer sans OSU and make that move with either Colorado or Kansas.

I think the ACC then ponders whether to add T.C.U. which is a transportation hub that fits with Georgia Tech and Miami, or West Virginia. I think T.C.U. might win that competition even as somewhat of an outlier if the ACC adds at all.

I think they are most likely to remain at 14.5.

Texas has long preached academics, but the SWC was hardly an academic conference, and the Old Big 12 was a much better one but 4 AAU schools left and 2 of them to the SEC. In the end Texas will move for what best preserves their most successful business model.


Why would their minor sports suffer in the ACC?

Men's Basketball -- very strong
Women's Basketball -- very strong
Baseball -- very strong
Men's and Women's Soccer -- very strong
Florida State two years removed from winning Softball National Title

ACC schools have won multiple championships in Cross Country, Field Hockey, Men's and Women's Golf, and Men's and Women's Tennis.

On the contrary ... I think the ACC's minor sports would be an excellent place for Texas to place their teams.

And the academic match (and academics count at Texas) with the ACC and Texas makes this an almost no brainer, should Texas want to make a move.

Cost of Travel!


Cost of travel difference between the ACC and SEC is negligible.

In fact, it's prolly cheaper (and easier logistically) to go into larger metropolitan areas like Atlanta, Pittsburgh, Miami, Syracuse, and Boston, rather than places like Starkville, Columbia SC, Columbia MO, Fayetteville, and Auburn AL.
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RE: Where will Texas be in 2026?
They will leave the NCAA and become an NFL minor league team.
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RE: Where will Texas be in 2026?
(07-29-2019 11:46 AM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  
(07-28-2019 09:50 PM)JRsec Wrote:  I have a different way of looking at this. I believe that if Texas moves, and I do believe an Oklahoma exit would likely lead to their movement, Texas will make the move that best preserve their business model. That model is predicated on playing at least 7 games inside the state of Texas annually, and preferably 8 games.

They can't get that in the Big 10 because there is no acceptable Texas tag along that meets Big 10 muster. You could say Rice but it won't happen. They are too small to make a splash in any substantial way. If Texas goes to the ACC as an independent and got the ACC to take T.C.U. they would have T.C.U. likely as a required in conference game, they would have 4 more ACC games and they would have 7 games left with which to schedule Tech/Baylor probably alternating home and away and they would get 2 ACC home games a year. They could work it out. But their minor sports would have issues and minor sports at Texas count.

They may not love the SEC but it provides them 4 home conference games and if Tech came with them it preserves the third large state school. Tech's bid would likely be both their price for coming to the SEC and their excuse for doing so. They would immediately have 7 games in Texas if Tech and A&M are rotated home & away. And if they keep the RRR in Dallas that's 8. If not Arkansas would probably gladly take OU's place as a Dallas annual. It gives their minor sports a division to play in that would not vary much farther than Mississippi and Louisiana. It reunites the 3 Texas state schools which satisfies the requests of the Texas legislature, And it gives them Arkansas and L.S.U. back as key regional games in addition to Tech and A&M games. And in a 16 team SEC they would likely have 2 OOC games left to schedule other Texas schools if they desired.

I find that to be a fairly compelling offer from the SEC who with their new T1 contract will be earning somewhere between 57 to 61 million per school payout which would more than cover the 51 million they are making with the LHN and Big 12 payouts. It would also garner ESPN approval.

If this happens I don't see the SEC pursuing Oklahoma and without an SEC invitation the Sooners have their cover to accept the Big 10 offer sans OSU and make that move with either Colorado or Kansas.

I think the ACC then ponders whether to add T.C.U. which is a transportation hub that fits with Georgia Tech and Miami, or West Virginia. I think T.C.U. might win that competition even as somewhat of an outlier if the ACC adds at all.

I think they are most likely to remain at 14.5.

Texas has long preached academics, but the SWC was hardly an academic conference, and the Old Big 12 was a much better one but 4 AAU schools left and 2 of them to the SEC. In the end Texas will move for what best preserves their most successful business model.


Why would their minor sports suffer in the ACC?

Men's Basketball -- very strong
Women's Basketball -- very strong
Baseball -- very strong
Men's and Women's Soccer -- very strong
Florida State two years removed from winning Softball National Title

ACC schools have won multiple championships in Cross Country, Field Hockey, Men's and Women's Golf, and Men's and Women's Tennis.

On the contrary ... I think the ACC's minor sports would be an excellent place for Texas to place their teams.

And the academic match (and academics count at Texas) with the ACC and Texas makes this an almost no brainer, should Texas want to make a move.

Sorry, but I do not think you understand the Texas mentality. Texas will never accept a Notre Dame type deal with the ACC. You are missing the key point and that is, Texas will never place their other sports on an island where they have to constantly travel to the East Coast to play an away conference game.

It is simply wishful thinking to believe otherwise.

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RE: Where will Texas be in 2026?
(07-29-2019 04:42 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 01:30 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 11:46 AM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  
(07-28-2019 09:50 PM)JRsec Wrote:  I have a different way of looking at this. I believe that if Texas moves, and I do believe an Oklahoma exit would likely lead to their movement, Texas will make the move that best preserve their business model. That model is predicated on playing at least 7 games inside the state of Texas annually, and preferably 8 games.

They can't get that in the Big 10 because there is no acceptable Texas tag along that meets Big 10 muster. You could say Rice but it won't happen. They are too small to make a splash in any substantial way. If Texas goes to the ACC as an independent and got the ACC to take T.C.U. they would have T.C.U. likely as a required in conference game, they would have 4 more ACC games and they would have 7 games left with which to schedule Tech/Baylor probably alternating home and away and they would get 2 ACC home games a year. They could work it out. But their minor sports would have issues and minor sports at Texas count.

They may not love the SEC but it provides them 4 home conference games and if Tech came with them it preserves the third large state school. Tech's bid would likely be both their price for coming to the SEC and their excuse for doing so. They would immediately have 7 games in Texas if Tech and A&M are rotated home & away. And if they keep the RRR in Dallas that's 8. If not Arkansas would probably gladly take OU's place as a Dallas annual. It gives their minor sports a division to play in that would not vary much farther than Mississippi and Louisiana. It reunites the 3 Texas state schools which satisfies the requests of the Texas legislature, And it gives them Arkansas and L.S.U. back as key regional games in addition to Tech and A&M games. And in a 16 team SEC they would likely have 2 OOC games left to schedule other Texas schools if they desired.

I find that to be a fairly compelling offer from the SEC who with their new T1 contract will be earning somewhere between 57 to 61 million per school payout which would more than cover the 51 million they are making with the LHN and Big 12 payouts. It would also garner ESPN approval.

If this happens I don't see the SEC pursuing Oklahoma and without an SEC invitation the Sooners have their cover to accept the Big 10 offer sans OSU and make that move with either Colorado or Kansas.

I think the ACC then ponders whether to add T.C.U. which is a transportation hub that fits with Georgia Tech and Miami, or West Virginia. I think T.C.U. might win that competition even as somewhat of an outlier if the ACC adds at all.

I think they are most likely to remain at 14.5.

Texas has long preached academics, but the SWC was hardly an academic conference, and the Old Big 12 was a much better one but 4 AAU schools left and 2 of them to the SEC. In the end Texas will move for what best preserves their most successful business model.


Why would their minor sports suffer in the ACC?

Men's Basketball -- very strong
Women's Basketball -- very strong
Baseball -- very strong
Men's and Women's Soccer -- very strong
Florida State two years removed from winning Softball National Title

ACC schools have won multiple championships in Cross Country, Field Hockey, Men's and Women's Golf, and Men's and Women's Tennis.

On the contrary ... I think the ACC's minor sports would be an excellent place for Texas to place their teams.

And the academic match (and academics count at Texas) with the ACC and Texas makes this an almost no brainer, should Texas want to make a move.

Cost of Travel!


Cost of travel difference between the ACC and SEC is negligible.

In fact, it's prolly cheaper (and easier logistically) to go into larger metropolitan areas like Atlanta, Pittsburgh, Miami, Syracuse, and Boston, rather than places like Starkville, Columbia SC, Columbia MO, Fayetteville, and Auburn AL.

I think the point here is that they would be in a division without Alabama and Auburn and that their minor sports would be traveling less for most games than they did in the Big 12.

Arkansas, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Missouri, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech. Missouri is easily the farthest trip for the division. And actually Starkville is closer than Oxford, but all of them are day drives except Missouri.

Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Vanderbilt would be the other division and they would likely rotate 2 of those a year and one of them would be at home.

So why don't you reconsider the ridiculousness of your claim and then look at who Texas gets to play annually: Tech, Arkansas, L.S.U., Ole Miss (which they just finished a series with), and A&M and Tech. Their OOC P game would probably remain Oklahoma. That's about as Horn fan friendly of a schedule that they could find anywhere they moved. Toss in a rotation of TCU and Baylor for an OOC game and all they've done is to swap Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, West Virginia, and Iowa State for schools as close or closer, but schools with much better crowds.
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RE: Where will Texas be in 2026?
(07-29-2019 06:21 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 04:42 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 01:30 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 11:46 AM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  
(07-28-2019 09:50 PM)JRsec Wrote:  I have a different way of looking at this. I believe that if Texas moves, and I do believe an Oklahoma exit would likely lead to their movement, Texas will make the move that best preserve their business model. That model is predicated on playing at least 7 games inside the state of Texas annually, and preferably 8 games.

They can't get that in the Big 10 because there is no acceptable Texas tag along that meets Big 10 muster. You could say Rice but it won't happen. They are too small to make a splash in any substantial way. If Texas goes to the ACC as an independent and got the ACC to take T.C.U. they would have T.C.U. likely as a required in conference game, they would have 4 more ACC games and they would have 7 games left with which to schedule Tech/Baylor probably alternating home and away and they would get 2 ACC home games a year. They could work it out. But their minor sports would have issues and minor sports at Texas count.

They may not love the SEC but it provides them 4 home conference games and if Tech came with them it preserves the third large state school. Tech's bid would likely be both their price for coming to the SEC and their excuse for doing so. They would immediately have 7 games in Texas if Tech and A&M are rotated home & away. And if they keep the RRR in Dallas that's 8. If not Arkansas would probably gladly take OU's place as a Dallas annual. It gives their minor sports a division to play in that would not vary much farther than Mississippi and Louisiana. It reunites the 3 Texas state schools which satisfies the requests of the Texas legislature, And it gives them Arkansas and L.S.U. back as key regional games in addition to Tech and A&M games. And in a 16 team SEC they would likely have 2 OOC games left to schedule other Texas schools if they desired.

I find that to be a fairly compelling offer from the SEC who with their new T1 contract will be earning somewhere between 57 to 61 million per school payout which would more than cover the 51 million they are making with the LHN and Big 12 payouts. It would also garner ESPN approval.

If this happens I don't see the SEC pursuing Oklahoma and without an SEC invitation the Sooners have their cover to accept the Big 10 offer sans OSU and make that move with either Colorado or Kansas.

I think the ACC then ponders whether to add T.C.U. which is a transportation hub that fits with Georgia Tech and Miami, or West Virginia. I think T.C.U. might win that competition even as somewhat of an outlier if the ACC adds at all.

I think they are most likely to remain at 14.5.

Texas has long preached academics, but the SWC was hardly an academic conference, and the Old Big 12 was a much better one but 4 AAU schools left and 2 of them to the SEC. In the end Texas will move for what best preserves their most successful business model.


Why would their minor sports suffer in the ACC?

Men's Basketball -- very strong
Women's Basketball -- very strong
Baseball -- very strong
Men's and Women's Soccer -- very strong
Florida State two years removed from winning Softball National Title

ACC schools have won multiple championships in Cross Country, Field Hockey, Men's and Women's Golf, and Men's and Women's Tennis.

On the contrary ... I think the ACC's minor sports would be an excellent place for Texas to place their teams.

And the academic match (and academics count at Texas) with the ACC and Texas makes this an almost no brainer, should Texas want to make a move.

Cost of Travel!


Cost of travel difference between the ACC and SEC is negligible.

In fact, it's prolly cheaper (and easier logistically) to go into larger metropolitan areas like Atlanta, Pittsburgh, Miami, Syracuse, and Boston, rather than places like Starkville, Columbia SC, Columbia MO, Fayetteville, and Auburn AL.

I think the point here is that they would be in a division without Alabama and Auburn and that their minor sports would be traveling less for most games than they did in the Big 12.

Arkansas, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Missouri, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech. Missouri is easily the farthest trip for the division. And actually Starkville is closer than Oxford, but all of them are day drives except Missouri.

Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Vanderbilt would be the other division and they would likely rotate 2 of those a year and one of them would be at home.

So why don't you reconsider the ridiculousness of your claim and then look at who Texas gets to play annually: Tech, Arkansas, L.S.U., Ole Miss (which they just finished a series with), and A&M and Tech. Their OOC P game would probably remain Oklahoma. That's about as Horn fan friendly of a schedule that they could find anywhere they moved. Toss in a rotation of TCU and Baylor for an OOC game and all they've done is to swap Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, West Virginia, and Iowa State for schools as close or closer, but schools with much better crowds.

On this board as a Texas Tech grad I have leaned to embrace the tag along association with UT. It's better to be wanted than discarded like a piece of trash.

I voted Texas stays in the Big 12. IF the Big 12 dissolves, I know Texas Tech, UT and OU will be safe and I hope Oklahoma St makes the cut.

The Big 12 leftovers can replenish with the best schools in the MWC and AAC.
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(07-29-2019 07:43 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 06:21 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 04:42 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 01:30 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 11:46 AM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  Why would their minor sports suffer in the ACC?

Men's Basketball -- very strong
Women's Basketball -- very strong
Baseball -- very strong
Men's and Women's Soccer -- very strong
Florida State two years removed from winning Softball National Title

ACC schools have won multiple championships in Cross Country, Field Hockey, Men's and Women's Golf, and Men's and Women's Tennis.

On the contrary ... I think the ACC's minor sports would be an excellent place for Texas to place their teams.

And the academic match (and academics count at Texas) with the ACC and Texas makes this an almost no brainer, should Texas want to make a move.

Cost of Travel!


Cost of travel difference between the ACC and SEC is negligible.

In fact, it's prolly cheaper (and easier logistically) to go into larger metropolitan areas like Atlanta, Pittsburgh, Miami, Syracuse, and Boston, rather than places like Starkville, Columbia SC, Columbia MO, Fayetteville, and Auburn AL.

I think the point here is that they would be in a division without Alabama and Auburn and that their minor sports would be traveling less for most games than they did in the Big 12.

Arkansas, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Missouri, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech. Missouri is easily the farthest trip for the division. And actually Starkville is closer than Oxford, but all of them are day drives except Missouri.

Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Vanderbilt would be the other division and they would likely rotate 2 of those a year and one of them would be at home.

So why don't you reconsider the ridiculousness of your claim and then look at who Texas gets to play annually: Tech, Arkansas, L.S.U., Ole Miss (which they just finished a series with), and A&M and Tech. Their OOC P game would probably remain Oklahoma. That's about as Horn fan friendly of a schedule that they could find anywhere they moved. Toss in a rotation of TCU and Baylor for an OOC game and all they've done is to swap Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, West Virginia, and Iowa State for schools as close or closer, but schools with much better crowds.

On this board as a Texas Tech grad I have leaned to embrace the tag along association with UT. It's better to be wanted than discarded like a piece of trash.

I voted Texas stays in the Big 12. IF the Big 12 dissolves, I know Texas Tech, UT and OU will be safe and I hope Oklahoma St makes the cut.

The Big 12 leftovers can replenish with the best schools in the MWC and AAC.

If you had to move with Texas where would you rather be?
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The way I see it, Oklahoma is going to want to move. Their first choice would be the SEC with Oklahoma St.

The SEC is going to ponder that move but ultimately I think they will end up passing because it means that without an NCAA rule change they would have no room to ever add again, meaning no Texas.

The SEC counters with an offer to take Oklahoma and Texas.

The Big Ten offers to take Oklahoma and Kansas. They offer Okahoma an immediate full share and offer both schools the flexibility to keep Bedlam and the Sunflower Showdown.

I think Oklahoma takes the Big Ten offer and Texas and TTU end up in the SEC.
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About 30 spots behind Rice in US News. ... if they’re lucky
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(07-29-2019 07:56 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 07:43 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 06:21 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 04:42 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 01:30 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Cost of Travel!


Cost of travel difference between the ACC and SEC is negligible.

In fact, it's prolly cheaper (and easier logistically) to go into larger metropolitan areas like Atlanta, Pittsburgh, Miami, Syracuse, and Boston, rather than places like Starkville, Columbia SC, Columbia MO, Fayetteville, and Auburn AL.

I think the point here is that they would be in a division without Alabama and Auburn and that their minor sports would be traveling less for most games than they did in the Big 12.

Arkansas, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Missouri, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech. Missouri is easily the farthest trip for the division. And actually Starkville is closer than Oxford, but all of them are day drives except Missouri.

Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Vanderbilt would be the other division and they would likely rotate 2 of those a year and one of them would be at home.

So why don't you reconsider the ridiculousness of your claim and then look at who Texas gets to play annually: Tech, Arkansas, L.S.U., Ole Miss (which they just finished a series with), and A&M and Tech. Their OOC P game would probably remain Oklahoma. That's about as Horn fan friendly of a schedule that they could find anywhere they moved. Toss in a rotation of TCU and Baylor for an OOC game and all they've done is to swap Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, West Virginia, and Iowa State for schools as close or closer, but schools with much better crowds.

On this board as a Texas Tech grad I have leaned to embrace the tag along association with UT. It's better to be wanted than discarded like a piece of trash.

I voted Texas stays in the Big 12. IF the Big 12 dissolves, I know Texas Tech, UT and OU will be safe and I hope Oklahoma St makes the cut.

The Big 12 leftovers can replenish with the best schools in the MWC and AAC.

If you had to move with Texas where would you rather be?

SEC.
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(07-29-2019 08:11 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  The way I see it, Oklahoma is going to want to move. Their first choice would be the SEC with Oklahoma St.

The SEC is going to ponder that move but ultimately I think they will end up passing because it means that without an NCAA rule change they would have no room to ever add again, meaning no Texas.

The SEC counters with an offer to take Oklahoma and Texas.

The Big Ten offers to take Oklahoma and Kansas. They offer Okahoma an immediate full share and offer both schools the flexibility to keep Bedlam and the Sunflower Showdown.

I think Oklahoma takes the Big Ten offer and Texas and TTU end up in the SEC.

Let's look at what motivations Texas might have to intentionally take that slot instead of Oklahoma. If this happens it may well start with a serious flirtation by the SEC with Oklahoma. But it won't be the SEC that moves on Texas, but Texas that would try to scoop Oklahoma's slot by insisting on Tech to come with them. Here's why:

Right now the Horns share Texas with 3 other Texas P5 schools in the Big 12 and Okahoma and Oklahoma State. The issue here is that all of those schools are splitting recruits in that state along with Texas A&M.

If Texas moves to the SEC with Tech and joins A&M they in effect take away A&M's recruiting advantage. So that's one perk to Texas. In the process they also demote Baylor and T.C.U. and use the excuse that Oklahoma was bolting and they had to protect Tech as their cover story. That tries to put the honus on the Sooners while demoting two more schools in the state of Texas. That's another perk for Texas. Now there would be only 3 P schools in the state of Texas and all three are in the SEC essentially locking other P conferences out of the in state Texas recruiting scheme. They know many of their kids want to stay at home to play. Next, by taking OU's place in the SEC they force Oklahoma to move to the Big 10 and they know OSU won't be able to go. So they demote another neighboring school that recruits DFW well and now they have Oklahoma back in another conference so that it limits their exposure in the state of Texas to smaller schools they wouldn't want to play a home and home with, and their annual game in Dallas. That's two more perks for the Horns.

So Muskie I think it will start with an OU flirtation that is serious with the SEC, and that UT knows that if the SEC could get three regionally televised games a week out of the State of Texas that it boosts both the T1 and T2 of the SEC significantly more than OU and OSU and it gives the SEC more leverage for ad rates inside Texas therefore there is little doubt that with ESPN's blessing the SEC's blessing, and make everyone more money while making Texas really compete with just 2 other Texas schools. Plus they scoop the Sooners and score a coup over every one of their present rivals.

Picking up Arkansas (beloved old rival), L.S.U. (not so beloved border rival), and Ole Miss would give their fans their key old rivals back and some good travel crowds and easy regional travel.

So in summation A&M is brought back to par with Texas, Tech is elevated but not to Texas and A&M status due mostly to distance, Baylor and T.C.U. are demoted along with Oklahoma State, and Oklahoma is sent north and loses some exposure in the State of Texas as far as number of competitions. And in the end they earn about 4-6 million more by joining than they do with the Big 12 revenue and the LHN. ESPN is off the hook. LHN studio becomes the SEC West Studio and Charlotte becomes the SEC East Studio and the SECN which is already in 17 Mexican cities is broadcast from Texas in Spanish. And the fans and alums get better games and old rivalries back and Texas still gets some exposure in Florida and Georgia and they can pretend Vandy is their only academic rival, even though Florida most certainly would be another.

That will be the reasoning and why Oklahoma is more likely to wind up in the Big 10. That and without Alabama and Auburn in the west Texas by moving Oklahoma to the Big 10 would only have to beat A&M, L.S.U., and Arkansas most years to make the CCG while Alabama would have Auburn, Florida and Georgia to get through.

Toss in Mike Slive's remarks at a Dallas gathering where he stated the SEC would be proud to have any of Texas's top 3 state schools, or all of them, and the Texas legislature wanting Texas, A&M and Tech to all play annually and it just seems like the simplest solution.
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(07-29-2019 08:11 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  The way I see it, Oklahoma is going to want to move. Their first choice would be the SEC with Oklahoma St.

The SEC is going to ponder that move but ultimately I think they will end up passing because it means that without an NCAA rule change they would have no room to ever add again, meaning no Texas.

The SEC counters with an offer to take Oklahoma and Texas.

The Big Ten offers to take Oklahoma and Kansas. They offer Okahoma an immediate full share and offer both schools the flexibility to keep Bedlam and the Sunflower Showdown.

I think Oklahoma takes the Big Ten offer and Texas and TTU end up in the SEC.

Why do you assume that the SEC would pass on OU rather than make a counteroffer to take them and UT instead of Oklahoma State? If Texas says no, I doubt the SEC cares much what the Horns do in the future. If Texas says yes, then OU has a decision to make. And if the decision is to go to the B1G with Kansas, then they would have to give up either Bedlam or the RRR.

I don't think they make that choice. But then again, I'm still inclined to think that both UT and OU realize they have to give up something they want if they go anywhere. If they stay together in the Big 12 they get the devil they know and pass on the devil they don't know. And they both still have enough money to do whatever they need to do to stay competitive.

I see no change in the P5, beause there doesn't really need to be change.
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(07-29-2019 08:41 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 08:11 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  The way I see it, Oklahoma is going to want to move. Their first choice would be the SEC with Oklahoma St.

The SEC is going to ponder that move but ultimately I think they will end up passing because it means that without an NCAA rule change they would have no room to ever add again, meaning no Texas.

The SEC counters with an offer to take Oklahoma and Texas.

The Big Ten offers to take Oklahoma and Kansas. They offer Okahoma an immediate full share and offer both schools the flexibility to keep Bedlam and the Sunflower Showdown.

I think Oklahoma takes the Big Ten offer and Texas and TTU end up in the SEC.

Let's look at what motivations Texas might have to intentionally take that slot instead of Oklahoma. If this happens it may well start with a serious flirtation by the SEC with Oklahoma. But it won't be the SEC that moves on Texas, but Texas that would try to scoop Oklahoma's slot by insisting on Tech to come with them. Here's why:

Right now the Horns share Texas with 3 other Texas P5 schools in the Big 12 and Okahoma and Oklahoma State. The issue here is that all of those schools are splitting recruits in that state along with Texas A&M.

If Texas moves to the SEC with Tech and joins A&M they in effect take away A&M's recruiting advantage. So that's one perk to Texas. In the process they also demote Baylor and T.C.U. and use the excuse that Oklahoma was bolting and they had to protect Tech as their cover story. That tries to put the honus on the Sooners while demoting two more schools in the state of Texas. That's another perk for Texas. Now there would be only 3 P schools in the state of Texas and all three are in the SEC essentially locking other P conferences out of the in state Texas recruiting scheme. They know many of their kids want to stay at home to play. Next, by taking OU's place in the SEC they force Oklahoma to move to the Big 10 and they know OSU won't be able to go. So they demote another neighboring school that recruits DFW well and now they have Oklahoma back in another conference so that it limits their exposure in the state of Texas to smaller schools they wouldn't want to play a home and home with, and their annual game in Dallas. That's two more perks for the Horns.

So Muskie I think it will start with an OU flirtation that is serious with the SEC, and that UT knows that if the SEC could get three regionally televised games a week out of the State of Texas that it boosts both the T1 and T2 of the SEC significantly more than OU and OSU and it gives the SEC more leverage for ad rates inside Texas therefore there is little doubt that with ESPN's blessing the SEC's blessing, and make everyone more money while making Texas really compete with just 2 other Texas schools. Plus they scoop the Sooners and score a coup over every one of their present rivals.

Picking up Arkansas (beloved old rival), L.S.U. (not so beloved border rival), and Ole Miss would give their fans their key old rivals back and some good travel crowds and easy regional travel.

So in summation A&M is brought back to par with Texas, Tech is elevated but not to Texas and A&M status due mostly to distance, Baylor and T.C.U. are demoted along with Oklahoma State, and Oklahoma is sent north and loses some exposure in the State of Texas as far as number of competitions. And in the end they earn about 4-6 million more by joining than they do with the Big 12 revenue and the LHN. ESPN is off the hook. LHN studio becomes the SEC West Studio and Charlotte becomes the SEC East Studio and the SECN which is already in 17 Mexican cities is broadcast from Texas in Spanish. And the fans and alums get better games and old rivalries back and Texas still gets some exposure in Florida and Georgia and they can pretend Vandy is their only academic rival, even though Florida most certainly would be another.

That will be the reasoning and why Oklahoma is more likely to wind up in the Big 10. That and without Alabama and Auburn in the west Texas by moving Oklahoma to the Big 10 would only have to beat A&M, L.S.U., and Arkansas most years to make the CCG while Alabama would have Auburn, Florida and Georgia to get through.

Toss in Mike Slive's remarks at a Dallas gathering where he stated the SEC would be proud to have any of Texas's top 3 state schools, or all of them, and the Texas legislature wanting Texas, A&M and Tech to all play annually and it just seems like the simplest solution.

UT, Tech and A&M playing each other every year makes sense in a state the size of Texas. You have the 3 largest P5 Texas schools playing in the best football conference in America.

Oklahoma St, Kansas, Baylor, TCU, Kansas St, Iowa St and West Virginia can choose any number of schools to fill the void. In this make believe scenario, they will have a number of G5 schools wanting to join.
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(07-29-2019 10:19 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 08:41 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 08:11 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  The way I see it, Oklahoma is going to want to move. Their first choice would be the SEC with Oklahoma St.

The SEC is going to ponder that move but ultimately I think they will end up passing because it means that without an NCAA rule change they would have no room to ever add again, meaning no Texas.

The SEC counters with an offer to take Oklahoma and Texas.

The Big Ten offers to take Oklahoma and Kansas. They offer Okahoma an immediate full share and offer both schools the flexibility to keep Bedlam and the Sunflower Showdown.

I think Oklahoma takes the Big Ten offer and Texas and TTU end up in the SEC.

Let's look at what motivations Texas might have to intentionally take that slot instead of Oklahoma. If this happens it may well start with a serious flirtation by the SEC with Oklahoma. But it won't be the SEC that moves on Texas, but Texas that would try to scoop Oklahoma's slot by insisting on Tech to come with them. Here's why:

Right now the Horns share Texas with 3 other Texas P5 schools in the Big 12 and Okahoma and Oklahoma State. The issue here is that all of those schools are splitting recruits in that state along with Texas A&M.

If Texas moves to the SEC with Tech and joins A&M they in effect take away A&M's recruiting advantage. So that's one perk to Texas. In the process they also demote Baylor and T.C.U. and use the excuse that Oklahoma was bolting and they had to protect Tech as their cover story. That tries to put the honus on the Sooners while demoting two more schools in the state of Texas. That's another perk for Texas. Now there would be only 3 P schools in the state of Texas and all three are in the SEC essentially locking other P conferences out of the in state Texas recruiting scheme. They know many of their kids want to stay at home to play. Next, by taking OU's place in the SEC they force Oklahoma to move to the Big 10 and they know OSU won't be able to go. So they demote another neighboring school that recruits DFW well and now they have Oklahoma back in another conference so that it limits their exposure in the state of Texas to smaller schools they wouldn't want to play a home and home with, and their annual game in Dallas. That's two more perks for the Horns.

So Muskie I think it will start with an OU flirtation that is serious with the SEC, and that UT knows that if the SEC could get three regionally televised games a week out of the State of Texas that it boosts both the T1 and T2 of the SEC significantly more than OU and OSU and it gives the SEC more leverage for ad rates inside Texas therefore there is little doubt that with ESPN's blessing the SEC's blessing, and make everyone more money while making Texas really compete with just 2 other Texas schools. Plus they scoop the Sooners and score a coup over every one of their present rivals.

Picking up Arkansas (beloved old rival), L.S.U. (not so beloved border rival), and Ole Miss would give their fans their key old rivals back and some good travel crowds and easy regional travel.

So in summation A&M is brought back to par with Texas, Tech is elevated but not to Texas and A&M status due mostly to distance, Baylor and T.C.U. are demoted along with Oklahoma State, and Oklahoma is sent north and loses some exposure in the State of Texas as far as number of competitions. And in the end they earn about 4-6 million more by joining than they do with the Big 12 revenue and the LHN. ESPN is off the hook. LHN studio becomes the SEC West Studio and Charlotte becomes the SEC East Studio and the SECN which is already in 17 Mexican cities is broadcast from Texas in Spanish. And the fans and alums get better games and old rivalries back and Texas still gets some exposure in Florida and Georgia and they can pretend Vandy is their only academic rival, even though Florida most certainly would be another.

That will be the reasoning and why Oklahoma is more likely to wind up in the Big 10. That and without Alabama and Auburn in the west Texas by moving Oklahoma to the Big 10 would only have to beat A&M, L.S.U., and Arkansas most years to make the CCG while Alabama would have Auburn, Florida and Georgia to get through.

Toss in Mike Slive's remarks at a Dallas gathering where he stated the SEC would be proud to have any of Texas's top 3 state schools, or all of them, and the Texas legislature wanting Texas, A&M and Tech to all play annually and it just seems like the simplest solution.

UT, Tech and A&M playing each other every year makes sense in a state the size of Texas. You have the 3 largest P5 Texas schools playing in the best football conference in America.

Oklahoma St, Kansas, Baylor, TCU, Kansas St, Iowa St and West Virginia can choose any number of schools to fill the void. In this make believe scenario, they will have a number of G5 schools wanting to join.

East: WVU, Temple, Cincy, Memphis, UCF, USF
West: OkSU, TCU, Baylor, Houston, ISU, KSU

The recruiting would be there.
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(07-29-2019 08:41 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 08:11 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  The way I see it, Oklahoma is going to want to move. Their first choice would be the SEC with Oklahoma St.

The SEC is going to ponder that move but ultimately I think they will end up passing because it means that without an NCAA rule change they would have no room to ever add again, meaning no Texas.

The SEC counters with an offer to take Oklahoma and Texas.

The Big Ten offers to take Oklahoma and Kansas. They offer Okahoma an immediate full share and offer both schools the flexibility to keep Bedlam and the Sunflower Showdown.

I think Oklahoma takes the Big Ten offer and Texas and TTU end up in the SEC.

Let's look at what motivations Texas might have to intentionally take that slot instead of Oklahoma. If this happens it may well start with a serious flirtation by the SEC with Oklahoma. But it won't be the SEC that moves on Texas, but Texas that would try to scoop Oklahoma's slot by insisting on Tech to come with them. Here's why:

Right now the Horns share Texas with 3 other Texas P5 schools in the Big 12 and Okahoma and Oklahoma State. The issue here is that all of those schools are splitting recruits in that state along with Texas A&M.

If Texas moves to the SEC with Tech and joins A&M they in effect take away A&M's recruiting advantage. So that's one perk to Texas. In the process they also demote Baylor and T.C.U. and use the excuse that Oklahoma was bolting and they had to protect Tech as their cover story. That tries to put the honus on the Sooners while demoting two more schools in the state of Texas. That's another perk for Texas. Now there would be only 3 P schools in the state of Texas and all three are in the SEC essentially locking other P conferences out of the in state Texas recruiting scheme. They know many of their kids want to stay at home to play. Next, by taking OU's place in the SEC they force Oklahoma to move to the Big 10 and they know OSU won't be able to go. So they demote another neighboring school that recruits DFW well and now they have Oklahoma back in another conference so that it limits their exposure in the state of Texas to smaller schools they wouldn't want to play a home and home with, and their annual game in Dallas. That's two more perks for the Horns.

So Muskie I think it will start with an OU flirtation that is serious with the SEC, and that UT knows that if the SEC could get three regionally televised games a week out of the State of Texas that it boosts both the T1 and T2 of the SEC significantly more than OU and OSU and it gives the SEC more leverage for ad rates inside Texas therefore there is little doubt that with ESPN's blessing the SEC's blessing, and make everyone more money while making Texas really compete with just 2 other Texas schools. Plus they scoop the Sooners and score a coup over every one of their present rivals.

Picking up Arkansas (beloved old rival), L.S.U. (not so beloved border rival), and Ole Miss would give their fans their key old rivals back and some good travel crowds and easy regional travel.

So in summation A&M is brought back to par with Texas, Tech is elevated but not to Texas and A&M status due mostly to distance, Baylor and T.C.U. are demoted along with Oklahoma State, and Oklahoma is sent north and loses some exposure in the State of Texas as far as number of competitions. And in the end they earn about 4-6 million more by joining than they do with the Big 12 revenue and the LHN. ESPN is off the hook. LHN studio becomes the SEC West Studio and Charlotte becomes the SEC East Studio and the SECN which is already in 17 Mexican cities is broadcast from Texas in Spanish. And the fans and alums get better games and old rivalries back and Texas still gets some exposure in Florida and Georgia and they can pretend Vandy is their only academic rival, even though Florida most certainly would be another.

That will be the reasoning and why Oklahoma is more likely to wind up in the Big 10. That and without Alabama and Auburn in the west Texas by moving Oklahoma to the Big 10 would only have to beat A&M, L.S.U., and Arkansas most years to make the CCG while Alabama would have Auburn, Florida and Georgia to get through.

Toss in Mike Slive's remarks at a Dallas gathering where he stated the SEC would be proud to have any of Texas's top 3 state schools, or all of them, and the Texas legislature wanting Texas, A&M and Tech to all play annually and it just seems like the simplest solution.
"So in summation A&M is brought back to par with Texas, Tech is elevated but not to Texas and A&M status due mostly to distance, Baylor and T.C.U. are demoted along with Oklahoma State, and Oklahoma is sent north and loses some exposure in the State of Texas as far as number of competitions. And in the end they earn about 4-6 million more by joining than they do with the Big 12 revenue and the LHN. ESPN is off the hook. LHN studio becomes the SEC West Studio and Charlotte becomes the SEC East Studio and the SECN which is already in 17 Mexican cities is broadcast from Texas in Spanish. And the fans and alums get better games and old rivalries back and Texas still gets some exposure in Florida and Georgia and they can pretend Vandy is their only academic rival, even though Florida most certainly would be another.

These are very strong levers.
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