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RE: UConn & AAC Agree to $17M Exit Fee
(07-26-2019 02:13 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  ^^ So I assume you don't believe in divorce or think people can't ever cancel their cable or car insurance before the term expires? Same concept-- you can pay a little extra to go with a new carrier or get a new babe.

Yeah, if it's written in the...

You know what? I'm obviously not of the proper ilk to comprehend lawyering.

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(07-26-2019 11:14 AM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  If it were up to me, a Tony Soprano looking guy would be standing in the exit smacking a tire iron in his hand saying "Dat'll be seventeen million... please."

Whatever happened to that 27 month notice crap??? Contracts mean nothing now days.

All you have to do is trot in a couple carpet bagger attorneys and threaten to drag things out in court for a decade.

Loser pays. That would fix it.

$17 million? Meh, without-a the loop it is nothing.
 
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(07-26-2019 09:56 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(07-26-2019 09:47 AM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  
(07-26-2019 09:41 AM)GoCats1994 Wrote:  $5M / 11 = roughly $450K per school. This barely covers the cost of a "buy" game to fill the void in the fb schedule. Seems like UConn is getting off easy rather than being punished for leaving the conference.

True, but the other way to look at it is for a program that has financial problems, they are going to have $17 million less in the coffers regardless of how they try and make up that difference. Again, it's a compromise because both sides want to move on quickly - which I think is a good thing.

Just to clarify.. they won't be coughing up $17M. The AAC will be keeping ~$10M that would have otherwise been owed to UConn for conference distribution including media revenue, CFP money, bowl money, NCAA tourney credits, etc. UConn is only really paying a little over $6M out of pocket ($1M per year for 6 years).
The $10 million includes $5 million escrowed from the past season, 2018 - 19 and another $5 million for the upcoming season. 😎

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(07-26-2019 01:02 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  
(07-26-2019 11:14 AM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  If it were up to me, a Tony Soprano looking guy would be standing in the exit smacking a tire iron in his hand saying "Dat'll be seventeen million... please."

Whatever happened to that 27 month notice crap??? Contracts mean nothing now days.

All you have to do is trot in a couple carpet bagger attorneys and threaten to drag things out in court for a decade.

Loser pays. That would fix it.

Hey Moose, Rocco... Help the judge find his checkbook!



Some people just don't belong.
 
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(07-26-2019 11:53 PM)TubaCat Wrote:  
(07-26-2019 01:02 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  Hey Moose, Rocco... Help the judge find his checkbook!



Some people just don't belong.

AAC: Hey Huskies, where's your football team?!

UConn: Quiet please, we're trying to win a game.

AAC: We'll bet $1,000,000 you won't win one league game this year.

UConn: Gambling is illegal in the NCAA and we never go winless.

UConn at the end of the season: DAMN!!!!!

AAC: Ahh, you can owe us!

UConn: We owe you NOTHING!!!!
 
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RE: UConn & AAC Agree to $17M Exit Fee
(07-27-2019 08:42 AM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  
(07-26-2019 11:53 PM)TubaCat Wrote:  
(07-26-2019 01:02 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  Hey Moose, Rocco... Help the judge find his checkbook!



Some people just don't belong.

AAC: Hey Huskies, where's your football team?!

UConn: Quiet please, we're trying to win a game.

AAC: We'll bet $1,000,000 you won't win one league game this year.

UConn: Gambling is illegal in the NCAA and we never go winless.

UConn at the end of the season: DAMN!!!!!

AAC: Ahh, you can owe us!

UConn: We owe you NOTHING!!!!

Hey, look at this Big East. Nothing but piddly little private schools.

… Oh, but it looks good on you.
 
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(07-26-2019 01:03 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  
(07-26-2019 11:51 AM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  
(07-26-2019 11:23 AM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  
(07-26-2019 11:14 AM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  If it were up to me, a Tony Soprano looking guy would be standing in the exit smacking a tire iron in his hand saying "Dat'll be seventeen million... please."

Whatever happened to that 27 month notice crap??? Contracts mean nothing now days.

All you have to do is trot in a couple carpet bagger attorneys and threaten to drag things out in court for a decade.

Loser pays. That would fix it.

Contacts are made to be broken with damages clauses. UConn is paying a larger exit fee.

I have taught students that breaching or breaking a contract allows for market efficiency on both sides.

Way too many people confuse this issue. There is a big difference between the ethical duty to keep a promise and the legal analysis of contract breach. If there bad behavior in the performance of the contract like fraud or dishonesty that creates a ethical issue. People and organizations are allowed out of contracts.

So... what's the purpose of a contract in the first place?

To protect both sides. The conference would not be getting 17 million if there wasn't a contract.

The contract is the starting point of the negotiation.

The contract said $10 million and you have to wait 27 months. UConn preferred to wait only 12 months, so they paid $7 million extra to get out early and they committed to playing 4 basketball games (although they might have scheduled those games anyways).

I think the end result is better for both sides. The AAC values an extra year of UConn at far less than $7 million.
 
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It is a reasonable and agreeable deal for both parties. Part ways as quickly as possible and get on with life. 😎

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(07-29-2019 09:52 AM)Bearcatdh58 Wrote:  It is a reasonable and agreeable deal for both parties. Part ways as quickly as possible and get on with life. ?

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It avoids UC and 3 other AAC teams from having to play a FB game at Storrs which is a real plus.

UConn 2020 recruiting:
2 commits 1 a 3 star, one a no stars
Rank last in AAC, National 145

Why would anybody want them to continue in the AAC?
 
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(07-29-2019 10:51 AM)doss2 Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 09:52 AM)Bearcatdh58 Wrote:  It is a reasonable and agreeable deal for both parties. Part ways as quickly as possible and get on with life. ?

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It avoids UC and 3 other AAC teams from having to play a FB game at Storrs which is a real plus.

UConn 2020 recruiting:
2 commits 1 a 3 star, one a no stars
Rank last in AAC, National 145

Why would anybody want them to continue in the AAC?

Let your imagination run wild on what other school's recruiters must have been telling 17 year old prospects about where UCONN football was headed. With UCONN's decision, football's prospects just got considerably worse, not better.

I'm convinced UCONN covertly conducted extensive due diligence to determine it had no realistic pathway to the P5. They cut their losses and have pretty much decided to just be an east coast basketball school--football will exit stage left in the next couple years I believe. Unfortunately, I think its best days are in the rearview mirror in basketball too.
 
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RE: UConn & AAC Agree to $17M Exit Fee
(07-29-2019 12:16 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 10:51 AM)doss2 Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 09:52 AM)Bearcatdh58 Wrote:  It is a reasonable and agreeable deal for both parties. Part ways as quickly as possible and get on with life. ?

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It avoids UC and 3 other AAC teams from having to play a FB game at Storrs which is a real plus.

UConn 2020 recruiting:
2 commits 1 a 3 star, one a no stars
Rank last in AAC, National 145

Why would anybody want them to continue in the AAC?

Let your imagination run wild on what other school's recruiters must have been telling 17 year old prospects about where UCONN football was headed. With UCONN's decision, football's prospects just got considerably worse, not better.

I'm convinced UCONN covertly conducted extensive due diligence to determine it had no realistic pathway to the P5. They cut their losses and have pretty much decided to just be an east coast basketball school--football will exit stage left in the next couple years I believe. Unfortunately, I think its best days are in the rearview mirror in basketball too.

I don't think so...MBB/WBB are now the revenue sports for their AD. They get to cut a considerable number of scholarships on the women's side and reset their finances. Any coach/recruit now knows that BB is KING at UConn...no diverging of the AD budget to FB. All recruiting all the time. And a solid BB conference to boot.
 
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RE: UConn & AAC Agree to $17M Exit Fee
(07-29-2019 01:18 PM)converrl Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 12:16 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 10:51 AM)doss2 Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 09:52 AM)Bearcatdh58 Wrote:  It is a reasonable and agreeable deal for both parties. Part ways as quickly as possible and get on with life. ?

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It avoids UC and 3 other AAC teams from having to play a FB game at Storrs which is a real plus.

UConn 2020 recruiting:
2 commits 1 a 3 star, one a no stars
Rank last in AAC, National 145

Why would anybody want them to continue in the AAC?

Let your imagination run wild on what other school's recruiters must have been telling 17 year old prospects about where UCONN football was headed. With UCONN's decision, football's prospects just got considerably worse, not better.

I'm convinced UCONN covertly conducted extensive due diligence to determine it had no realistic pathway to the P5. They cut their losses and have pretty much decided to just be an east coast basketball school--football will exit stage left in the next couple years I believe. Unfortunately, I think its best days are in the rearview mirror in basketball too.

I don't think so...MBB/WBB are now the revenue sports for their AD. They get to cut a considerable number of scholarships on the women's side and reset their finances. Any coach/recruit now knows that BB is KING at UConn...no diverging of the AD budget to FB. All recruiting all the time. And a solid BB conference to boot.

You mean, getting in the same conference a Villanova.

I think the AAC is on it's way up in BB.

I also think the BE is trending downward. If Villanova's not any good, what else is left?

Creighton and Butler and spiraling and not coming back. Zavier looked a step below where they were with Putin in charge.

Georgetown is a big name, but that's all. Marquette, Providence, Seton Hall and St John's are all never-was has-beens.

UConn is going the way of Army football. They had a nice run. They're quickly becoming a nobody.
 
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RE: UConn & AAC Agree to $17M Exit Fee
(07-29-2019 01:32 PM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 01:18 PM)converrl Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 12:16 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 10:51 AM)doss2 Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 09:52 AM)Bearcatdh58 Wrote:  It is a reasonable and agreeable deal for both parties. Part ways as quickly as possible and get on with life. ?

Sent from my Moto E (4) Plus using CSNbbs mobile app

It avoids UC and 3 other AAC teams from having to play a FB game at Storrs which is a real plus.

UConn 2020 recruiting:
2 commits 1 a 3 star, one a no stars
Rank last in AAC, National 145

Why would anybody want them to continue in the AAC?

Let your imagination run wild on what other school's recruiters must have been telling 17 year old prospects about where UCONN football was headed. With UCONN's decision, football's prospects just got considerably worse, not better.

I'm convinced UCONN covertly conducted extensive due diligence to determine it had no realistic pathway to the P5. They cut their losses and have pretty much decided to just be an east coast basketball school--football will exit stage left in the next couple years I believe. Unfortunately, I think its best days are in the rearview mirror in basketball too.

I don't think so...MBB/WBB are now the revenue sports for their AD. They get to cut a considerable number of scholarships on the women's side and reset their finances. Any coach/recruit now knows that BB is KING at UConn...no diverging of the AD budget to FB. All recruiting all the time. And a solid BB conference to boot.

You mean, getting in the same conference a Villanova.

I think the AAC is on it's way up in BB.

I also think the BE is trending downward. If Villanova's not any good, what else is left?

Creighton and Butler and spiraling and not coming back. Zavier looked a step below where they were with Putin in charge.

Georgetown is a big name, but that's all. Marquette, Providence, Seton Hall and St John's are all never-was has-beens.

UConn is going the way of Army football. They had a nice run. They're quickly becoming a nobody.

Are we talking about the same Army team that finished the year ranked #19?
 
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(07-29-2019 01:58 PM)Banter Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 01:32 PM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 01:18 PM)converrl Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 12:16 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 10:51 AM)doss2 Wrote:  It avoids UC and 3 other AAC teams from having to play a FB game at Storrs which is a real plus.

UConn 2020 recruiting:
2 commits 1 a 3 star, one a no stars
Rank last in AAC, National 145

Why would anybody want them to continue in the AAC?

Let your imagination run wild on what other school's recruiters must have been telling 17 year old prospects about where UCONN football was headed. With UCONN's decision, football's prospects just got considerably worse, not better.

I'm convinced UCONN covertly conducted extensive due diligence to determine it had no realistic pathway to the P5. They cut their losses and have pretty much decided to just be an east coast basketball school--football will exit stage left in the next couple years I believe. Unfortunately, I think its best days are in the rearview mirror in basketball too.

I don't think so...MBB/WBB are now the revenue sports for their AD. They get to cut a considerable number of scholarships on the women's side and reset their finances. Any coach/recruit now knows that BB is KING at UConn...no diverging of the AD budget to FB. All recruiting all the time. And a solid BB conference to boot.

You mean, getting in the same conference a Villanova.

I think the AAC is on it's way up in BB.

I also think the BE is trending downward. If Villanova's not any good, what else is left?

Creighton and Butler and spiraling and not coming back. Zavier looked a step below where they were with Putin in charge.

Georgetown is a big name, but that's all. Marquette, Providence, Seton Hall and St John's are all never-was has-beens.

UConn is going the way of Army football. They had a nice run. They're quickly becoming a nobody.

Are we talking about the same Army team that finished the year ranked #19?

Uh, no.

We're talking about the Army teams from the 1940's that were the terror of college football.

UConn may have a year where they end ranked 19th in basketball, but their days of national championships are over.
 
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(07-29-2019 01:32 PM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 01:18 PM)converrl Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 12:16 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 10:51 AM)doss2 Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 09:52 AM)Bearcatdh58 Wrote:  It is a reasonable and agreeable deal for both parties. Part ways as quickly as possible and get on with life. ?

Sent from my Moto E (4) Plus using CSNbbs mobile app

It avoids UC and 3 other AAC teams from having to play a FB game at Storrs which is a real plus.

UConn 2020 recruiting:
2 commits 1 a 3 star, one a no stars
Rank last in AAC, National 145

Why would anybody want them to continue in the AAC?

Let your imagination run wild on what other school's recruiters must have been telling 17 year old prospects about where UCONN football was headed. With UCONN's decision, football's prospects just got considerably worse, not better.

I'm convinced UCONN covertly conducted extensive due diligence to determine it had no realistic pathway to the P5. They cut their losses and have pretty much decided to just be an east coast basketball school--football will exit stage left in the next couple years I believe. Unfortunately, I think its best days are in the rearview mirror in basketball too.

I don't think so...MBB/WBB are now the revenue sports for their AD. They get to cut a considerable number of scholarships on the women's side and reset their finances. Any coach/recruit now knows that BB is KING at UConn...no diverging of the AD budget to FB. All recruiting all the time. And a solid BB conference to boot.

You mean, getting in the same conference a Villanova.

I think the AAC is on it's way up in BB.

I also think the BE is trending downward. If Villanova's not any good, what else is left?

Creighton and Butler and spiraling and not coming back. Zavier looked a step below where they were with Putin in charge.

Georgetown is a big name, but that's all. Marquette, Providence, Seton Hall and St John's are all never-was has-beens.

UConn is going the way of Army football. They had a nice run. They're quickly becoming a nobody.

Just because Creighton & Butler missed the tourney in 2019, you think they're "never coming back?" They both made the tourney in 2018, and they've both made it in the majority of years since they joined the Big East.

In 2019, 9 of the 10 Big East schools made either the NCAA or NIT. A higher % of Big East schools got NCAA bids than American conference schools (40% of Big East and 33% of American).

In 2018, the Big East had 6 NCAA bids, including 2 #1 seeds.

I agree that UConn is trending down. But the rest of the Big East is not.
 
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RE: UConn & AAC Agree to $17M Exit Fee
(07-29-2019 02:51 PM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 01:58 PM)Banter Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 01:32 PM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 01:18 PM)converrl Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 12:16 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  Let your imagination run wild on what other school's recruiters must have been telling 17 year old prospects about where UCONN football was headed. With UCONN's decision, football's prospects just got considerably worse, not better.

I'm convinced UCONN covertly conducted extensive due diligence to determine it had no realistic pathway to the P5. They cut their losses and have pretty much decided to just be an east coast basketball school--football will exit stage left in the next couple years I believe. Unfortunately, I think its best days are in the rearview mirror in basketball too.

I don't think so...MBB/WBB are now the revenue sports for their AD. They get to cut a considerable number of scholarships on the women's side and reset their finances. Any coach/recruit now knows that BB is KING at UConn...no diverging of the AD budget to FB. All recruiting all the time. And a solid BB conference to boot.

You mean, getting in the same conference a Villanova.

I think the AAC is on it's way up in BB.

I also think the BE is trending downward. If Villanova's not any good, what else is left?

Creighton and Butler and spiraling and not coming back. Zavier looked a step below where they were with Putin in charge.

Georgetown is a big name, but that's all. Marquette, Providence, Seton Hall and St John's are all never-was has-beens.

UConn is going the way of Army football. They had a nice run. They're quickly becoming a nobody.

Are we talking about the same Army team that finished the year ranked #19?

Uh, no.

We're talking about the Army teams from the 1940's that were the terror of college football.

UConn may have a year where they end ranked 19th in basketball, but their days of national championships are over.

Those Army teams cheated and were given the first "death penalty" even though it wasn't called that back then.

Army used professional football players who had returned from WWII. On Saturdays, they played for Army and on Sundays, they played for the NFL.
 
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RE: UConn & AAC Agree to $17M Exit Fee
(07-29-2019 01:32 PM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 01:18 PM)converrl Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 12:16 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 10:51 AM)doss2 Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 09:52 AM)Bearcatdh58 Wrote:  It is a reasonable and agreeable deal for both parties. Part ways as quickly as possible and get on with life. ?

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It avoids UC and 3 other AAC teams from having to play a FB game at Storrs which is a real plus.

UConn 2020 recruiting:
2 commits 1 a 3 star, one a no stars
Rank last in AAC, National 145

Why would anybody want them to continue in the AAC?

Let your imagination run wild on what other school's recruiters must have been telling 17 year old prospects about where UCONN football was headed. With UCONN's decision, football's prospects just got considerably worse, not better.

I'm convinced UCONN covertly conducted extensive due diligence to determine it had no realistic pathway to the P5. They cut their losses and have pretty much decided to just be an east coast basketball school--football will exit stage left in the next couple years I believe. Unfortunately, I think its best days are in the rearview mirror in basketball too.

I don't think so...MBB/WBB are now the revenue sports for their AD. They get to cut a considerable number of scholarships on the women's side and reset their finances. Any coach/recruit now knows that BB is KING at UConn...no diverging of the AD budget to FB. All recruiting all the time. And a solid BB conference to boot.

You mean, getting in the same conference a Villanova.

I think the AAC is on it's way up in BB.

I also think the BE is trending downward. If Villanova's not any good, what else is left?

Creighton and Butler and spiraling and not coming back. Zavier looked a step below where they were with Putin in charge.

Georgetown is a big name, but that's all. Marquette, Providence, Seton Hall and St John's are all never-was has-beens.

UConn is going the way of Army football. They had a nice run. They're quickly becoming a nobody.

I disagree with your assessment of BE MBB. Solid programs include XU, GTown, Butler, Creighton, Nova...all fairly solid with recent success. The conference will become more attractive to top recruits because they will play top-notch competition and the programs won't have to split their budgets with FB.

I find it interesting that several schools with minimal or no FB have made it to the championship over the past decade--especially when you consider that they make up a minority of DI programs. I think it speaks to a trend--if you put the bulk of your resources in one revenue sport, that sport will have a greater chance of success.
 
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RE: UConn & AAC Agree to $17M Exit Fee
(07-29-2019 03:47 PM)converrl Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 01:32 PM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 01:18 PM)converrl Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 12:16 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 10:51 AM)doss2 Wrote:  It avoids UC and 3 other AAC teams from having to play a FB game at Storrs which is a real plus.

UConn 2020 recruiting:
2 commits 1 a 3 star, one a no stars
Rank last in AAC, National 145

Why would anybody want them to continue in the AAC?

Let your imagination run wild on what other school's recruiters must have been telling 17 year old prospects about where UCONN football was headed. With UCONN's decision, football's prospects just got considerably worse, not better.

I'm convinced UCONN covertly conducted extensive due diligence to determine it had no realistic pathway to the P5. They cut their losses and have pretty much decided to just be an east coast basketball school--football will exit stage left in the next couple years I believe. Unfortunately, I think its best days are in the rearview mirror in basketball too.

I don't think so...MBB/WBB are now the revenue sports for their AD. They get to cut a considerable number of scholarships on the women's side and reset their finances. Any coach/recruit now knows that BB is KING at UConn...no diverging of the AD budget to FB. All recruiting all the time. And a solid BB conference to boot.

You mean, getting in the same conference a Villanova.

I think the AAC is on it's way up in BB.

I also think the BE is trending downward. If Villanova's not any good, what else is left?

Creighton and Butler and spiraling and not coming back. Zavier looked a step below where they were with Putin in charge.

Georgetown is a big name, but that's all. Marquette, Providence, Seton Hall and St John's are all never-was has-beens.

UConn is going the way of Army football. They had a nice run. They're quickly becoming a nobody.

I disagree with your assessment of BE MBB. Solid programs include XU, GTown, Butler, Creighton, Nova...all fairly solid with recent success. The conference will become more attractive to top recruits because they will play top-notch competition and the programs won't have to split their budgets with FB.

I find it interesting that several schools with minimal or no FB have made it to the championship over the past decade--especially when you consider that they make up a minority of DI programs. I think it speaks to a trend--if you put the bulk of your resources in one revenue sport, that sport will have a greater chance of success.

I agree. Big East basketball may not be what it was in its heyday, but it's going to be just fine going forward.
 
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RE: UConn & AAC Agree to $17M Exit Fee
(07-29-2019 03:47 PM)converrl Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 01:32 PM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 01:18 PM)converrl Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 12:16 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 10:51 AM)doss2 Wrote:  It avoids UC and 3 other AAC teams from having to play a FB game at Storrs which is a real plus.

UConn 2020 recruiting:
2 commits 1 a 3 star, one a no stars
Rank last in AAC, National 145

Why would anybody want them to continue in the AAC?

Let your imagination run wild on what other school's recruiters must have been telling 17 year old prospects about where UCONN football was headed. With UCONN's decision, football's prospects just got considerably worse, not better.

I'm convinced UCONN covertly conducted extensive due diligence to determine it had no realistic pathway to the P5. They cut their losses and have pretty much decided to just be an east coast basketball school--football will exit stage left in the next couple years I believe. Unfortunately, I think its best days are in the rearview mirror in basketball too.

I don't think so...MBB/WBB are now the revenue sports for their AD. They get to cut a considerable number of scholarships on the women's side and reset their finances. Any coach/recruit now knows that BB is KING at UConn...no diverging of the AD budget to FB. All recruiting all the time. And a solid BB conference to boot.

You mean, getting in the same conference a Villanova.

I think the AAC is on it's way up in BB.

I also think the BE is trending downward. If Villanova's not any good, what else is left?

Creighton and Butler and spiraling and not coming back. Zavier looked a step below where they were with Putin in charge.

Georgetown is a big name, but that's all. Marquette, Providence, Seton Hall and St John's are all never-was has-beens.

UConn is going the way of Army football. They had a nice run. They're quickly becoming a nobody.

I disagree with your assessment of BE MBB. Solid programs include XU, GTown, Butler, Creighton, Nova...all fairly solid with recent success. The conference will become more attractive to top recruits because they will play top-notch competition and the programs won't have to split their budgets with FB.

I find it interesting that several schools with minimal or no FB have made it to the championship over the past decade--especially when you consider that they make up a minority of DI programs. I think it speaks to a trend--if you put the bulk of your resources in one revenue sport, that sport will have a greater chance of success.

There's the sticking point with me.

Yes, they've all had recent success. But where are they headed?

Brad Stevens doesn't coach Butler anymore. If Miller gets IU turned around... bye bye Butler.

Creighton hasn't been much since the coach's kid left.

Villanova has been legit, but they seem to go up and down. If Wright leaves, forget them.

Zavier hopefully has ended their run of lucky coaching hires.

I personally would rather hang around with Houston, Memphis and Wichita St than those guys.

If Temple, SMU and UCF get their acts together, I just don't see how the BE is better than the AAC.

Disagree if you want. I think I'm right.
 
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(07-29-2019 03:28 PM)QSECOFR Wrote:  
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(07-29-2019 01:58 PM)Banter Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 01:32 PM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 01:18 PM)converrl Wrote:  I don't think so...MBB/WBB are now the revenue sports for their AD. They get to cut a considerable number of scholarships on the women's side and reset their finances. Any coach/recruit now knows that BB is KING at UConn...no diverging of the AD budget to FB. All recruiting all the time. And a solid BB conference to boot.

You mean, getting in the same conference a Villanova.

I think the AAC is on it's way up in BB.

I also think the BE is trending downward. If Villanova's not any good, what else is left?

Creighton and Butler and spiraling and not coming back. Zavier looked a step below where they were with Putin in charge.

Georgetown is a big name, but that's all. Marquette, Providence, Seton Hall and St John's are all never-was has-beens.

UConn is going the way of Army football. They had a nice run. They're quickly becoming a nobody.

Are we talking about the same Army team that finished the year ranked #19?

Uh, no.

We're talking about the Army teams from the 1940's that were the terror of college football.

UConn may have a year where they end ranked 19th in basketball, but their days of national championships are over.

Those Army teams cheated and were given the first "death penalty" even though it wasn't called that back then.

Army used professional football players who had returned from WWII. On Saturdays, they played for Army and on Sundays, they played for the NFL.


That's a new one for me. Army never received a "death penalty" and to my knowledge they weren't using illegal players or "ringers". No Army player was playing professional football while playing for the academy in the 40's and 50's. The issue during WWII was Army was able to keep players in the program because of the military commitment at Army while other teams (like hated ND) were losing kids to the draft. The mid-40's years were when Army killed everyone, not after WWII as you suggest.

Army had an academic cheating scandal with cadet football players on tests. They got caught and were expelled. That gutted the late 40's teams but by the mid 50's Army was kicking ass again.

I think you bastardized the facts unless you can prove otherwise.
 
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