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RE: If Tiger football goes undefeated; do we pull a UCF?
Southern U, S Alabama, and La-Monroe -- pathetic
HELL NO! is my answer.
If we want to put ourselves in the national championship playoff conversation or claim to be national champs, we must improve our OOC scheduling.
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RE: If Tiger football goes undefeated; do we pull a UCF?
No, UCF's claim was irritating and embarrassing. It was a joke. Where's the millions from their claim??
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RE: If Tiger football goes undefeated; do we pull a UCF?
I don't care for Central Florida in the slightest, but what else are they supposed to do?

They went undefeated and no one else did.
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RE: If Tiger football goes undefeated; do we pull a UCF?
Prematurely irrelevant.
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RE: If Tiger football goes undefeated; do we pull a UCF?
Ole Miss first. But if that were to happen, you have to claim it.
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(07-25-2019 06:57 AM)TallTiger Wrote:  No, UCF's claim was irritating and embarrassing. It was a joke. Where's the millions from their claim??

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RE: If Tiger football goes undefeated; do we pull a UCF?
1. UCF didn't just claim a national championship, it's been recognized by the NCAA:

https://www.al.com/sports/2018/08/ncaa_r...ional.html

The Colley-Matrix, which is used by the NCAA, recognized them, so the NCAA accepted it. I believe their metric is based on something like wins against opponents regardless of difficulty, and since UCF was the only undefeated school they sat at the top. It meant that UCF's wins over SMU and Tulane meant the same as Alabama's wins over Clemson and LSU, but whatever - UCF didn't make it up.
For the record, I don't think UCF claimed anything until the Colley-Matrix did, so UCF shouldn't be held as presumptious or selfish or anything, since schools have been doing this since the beginning.

2. If the same thing happens to Memphis - or SMU or UCF or flipping UMass - you damn well recognize it. It's not the teams fault the NCAA is messed up.

So to answer your question

Hell yes Memphis pulls a 'UCF'.
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Absolutely not
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(07-24-2019 09:34 PM)ItsDude Wrote:  You think we will go 1-0?

If we can't beat this upcoming seasons version of Ole Miss, then we don't deserve to win many games at all. They are going to be putrid this year.
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(07-25-2019 08:41 PM)gotigers1 Wrote:  
(07-24-2019 09:34 PM)ItsDude Wrote:  You think we will go 1-0?

If we can't beat this upcoming seasons version of Ole Miss, then we don't deserve to win many games at all. They are going to be putrid this year.

Well... Let's hope they get it rolling in game 2.
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Ole Miss has a real shot at going 0-8, and presumably 2-10 because they play New Mexico State and an FCS game.
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(07-25-2019 08:41 PM)gotigers1 Wrote:  
(07-24-2019 09:34 PM)ItsDude Wrote:  You think we will go 1-0?

If we can't beat this upcoming seasons version of Ole Miss, then we don't deserve to win many games at all. They are going to be putrid this year.

And yet they are ahead of us every year in recruiting rankings.
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Wow. I remember arguing over whether we'd have a winning record. This is insane.

Assuming we win all the regular season games, the NC claim would depend on who we beat in our bowl and how soundly we beat them.
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(07-26-2019 09:44 AM)Claw Wrote:  Wow. I remember arguing over whether we'd have a winning record. This is insane.

Assuming we win all the regular season games, the NC claim would depend on who we beat in our bowl and how soundly we beat them.

Yeah, I'm heavily relying on the word "IF" here. I am not very confident we will end up undefeated. I mean, we couldn't even beat Wake Forrest last year.
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(07-25-2019 02:36 PM)SMUleopold Wrote:  1. UCF didn't just claim a national championship, it's been recognized by the NCAA:

https://www.al.com/sports/2018/08/ncaa_r...ional.html

The Colley-Matrix, which is used by the NCAA, recognized them, so the NCAA accepted it. I believe their metric is based on something like wins against opponents regardless of difficulty, and since UCF was the only undefeated school they sat at the top. It meant that UCF's wins over SMU and Tulane meant the same as Alabama's wins over Clemson and LSU, but whatever - UCF didn't make it up.
For the record, I don't think UCF claimed anything until the Colley-Matrix did, so UCF shouldn't be held as presumptious or selfish or anything, since schools have been doing this since the beginning.

2. If the same thing happens to Memphis - or SMU or UCF or flipping UMass - you damn well recognize it. It's not the teams fault the NCAA is messed up.

So to answer your question

Hell yes Memphis pulls a 'UCF'.

I could put out a statement awarding a National Champion and the team I selected could claim it. But the single most important letter is "A" NC and not the word "the" NC.

Here is one description of the mythical Naty. Bottom line it is an opinion since there is no legitimate playoff system, NCAA designated or not.


Longest continuous selector Associated Press (1936–present)
First season awarded 1869
Last completed season 2018

A national championship in the highest level of college football in the United States, currently the NCAA Division I Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS), is a designation awarded annually by various organizations to their selection of the best college football team. Division I FBS football is the only National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) sport for which the NCAA does not sanction a yearly championship event. As such, it is sometimes unofficially referred to as a "mythical national championship".[1][2][3][4]

Due to the lack of an official NCAA title, determining the nation's top college football team has often engendered controversy.[5] A championship team is independently declared by multiple individuals and organizations, often referred to as "selectors".[6]:107–109 These choices are not always unanimous.[5] In 1969 even the President of the United States Richard Nixon declared a national champion by announcing, ahead of the season-ending game between #1 Texas and #2 Arkansas, that the winner of that game would receive a plaque from the President himself, commemorating that team as the year's national champion. Texas went on to win that game, 15–14.[7]

While the NCAA has never officially endorsed a championship team, it has documented the choices of some selectors in its official NCAA Football Bowl Subdivision Records publication.[6]:107–119 In addition, various analysts have independently published their own choices for each season. These opinions can often diverge with others as well as individual schools' claims to national titles, which may or may not correlate to the selections published elsewhere.

Currently, two of the most widely recognized national champion selectors are the Associated Press, which conducts a poll of sportswriters, and the Coaches Poll, a survey of active members of the American Football Coaches Association.
Since 1992, various consortia of major bowl games have aimed to invite the top two teams at the end of the regular season (as determined by internal rankings, or aggregates of the major polls and other statistics) to compete in what is intended to be the de facto national championship game. The current iteration of this practice, the College Football Playoff, selects four teams to participate in national semi-finals hosted by two of six partner bowl games, with their winners advancing to the College Football Playoff National Championship.
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(07-26-2019 09:53 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(07-26-2019 09:44 AM)Claw Wrote:  Wow. I remember arguing over whether we'd have a winning record. This is insane.

Assuming we win all the regular season games, the NC claim would depend on who we beat in our bowl and how soundly we beat them.

Yeah, I'm heavily relying on the word "IF" here. I am not very confident we will end up undefeated. I mean, we couldn't even beat Wake Forrest last year.

That was an exhibition game. Only good for the extra practices it gave us.
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(07-25-2019 06:47 AM)roachman48 Wrote:  Southern U, S Alabama, and La-Monroe -- pathetic
HELL NO! is my answer.
If we want to put ourselves in the national championship playoff conversation or claim to be national champs, we must improve our OOC scheduling.

So wait... FIU, at Maryland (which finished 4-8) and Austin Peay somehow blows our OOC schedule away?!

That's just sad.
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Some people here just have one narrative, and it's old and it's tired, and it's sad.
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(07-26-2019 01:46 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  
(07-26-2019 09:53 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(07-26-2019 09:44 AM)Claw Wrote:  Wow. I remember arguing over whether we'd have a winning record. This is insane.

Assuming we win all the regular season games, the NC claim would depend on who we beat in our bowl and how soundly we beat them.

Yeah, I'm heavily relying on the word "IF" here. I am not very confident we will end up undefeated. I mean, we couldn't even beat Wake Forrest last year.

That was an exhibition game. Only good for the extra practices it gave us.

How did that work out?
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(07-26-2019 06:09 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  
(07-25-2019 06:47 AM)roachman48 Wrote:  Southern U, S Alabama, and La-Monroe -- pathetic
HELL NO! is my answer.
If we want to put ourselves in the national championship playoff conversation or claim to be national champs, we must improve our OOC scheduling.

So wait... FIU, at Maryland (which finished 4-8) and Austin Peay somehow blows our OOC schedule away?!

That's just sad.

So is our OOC
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