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(07-30-2019 02:38 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  
(07-30-2019 02:12 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  This has all been an interesting development. There has always been a decent sized t-shirt Michigan fan base in Greater Cincinnati. My guess is many of them became Michigan fans out of opposition to Ohio State. Starting to think that a few will find themselves in the pickle of now not rooting for either. That is a good for UC.

The moral to all of this is that it is a conflict of interest to be a UC fan and root for another school in the region. Eventually, there will be a conflict of interest. Our fans/alums/students rooting for OSU, Michigan, UK, Indiana (even casually) is the reason why we are stuck in the AAC.

I think it's all relative to when you grew up in Cincinnati. UC football was non-existent as far as TV/radio/newspaper exposure while I was growing up (40 years old). Most of us who loved sports followed national teams because you could watch them play on TV. I liked Michigan, I had a number of friends who liked Florida State. But the need to follow a national team vs. a local team died due to the expansion of media/TV exposure.

I haven't followed any other teams since I graduated UC in 2001 and never will. I'd feel weird wearing another school's gear.

The UC fan explosion really occurred during the BK era 07-09. I'd think as these kids grow up you should see a lot less split allegiances than my era.

It was so frustrating to me growing up. I went to nearly every UC game in the 90s during my grade school/middle school years (also nearly every game after). I would try to sell people on how fun going down to Nippert for UC football was. Many were UC basketball fans that adopted OSU/Michigan/Notre Dame as their football team.
 
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(07-30-2019 02:12 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
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(07-30-2019 01:59 PM)cpawfan Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 09:08 AM)Jchuges7 Wrote:  It's as simple as this: if James Hudson was trying to transfer to a P5 school he likely gets approved. Transfer to an up-and-coming program in G5? DENIED.

I will root against Jim Harbaugh until he is out of coaching. What a clown.

I generally agree, except once a year, unless Michigan is more than a game in front of that school in Columbus

I could never root for the Suckeyes but I feel just about as strongly about Harbaugh. I'll be rooting for whichever team hurts the B10 playoff chances by winning.

This has all been an interesting development. There has always been a decent sized t-shirt Michigan fan base in Greater Cincinnati. My guess is many of them became Michigan fans out of opposition to Ohio State. Starting to think that a few will find themselves in the pickle of now not rooting for either. That is a good for UC.

The moral to all of this is that it is a conflict of interest to be a UC fan and root for another school in the region. Eventually, there will be a conflict of interest. Our fans/alums/students rooting for OSU, Michigan, UK, Indiana (even casually) is the reason why we are stuck in the AAC.

Bolded, sad but true. It's improved dramatically since I was an undergraduate. Back then you'd see more sweatshirts from those schools than UC gear on any given day on campus.

It's about long term sustainability. Building a top 25 program and growing the fanbase. That takes a lot of time, care and feeding.

Still, beat OSU next month and watch the UC gear fly off the shelves locally, as never before.
 
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(07-30-2019 03:56 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  
(07-30-2019 02:12 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(07-30-2019 02:02 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  
(07-30-2019 01:59 PM)cpawfan Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 09:08 AM)Jchuges7 Wrote:  It's as simple as this: if James Hudson was trying to transfer to a P5 school he likely gets approved. Transfer to an up-and-coming program in G5? DENIED.

I will root against Jim Harbaugh until he is out of coaching. What a clown.

I generally agree, except once a year, unless Michigan is more than a game in front of that school in Columbus

I could never root for the Suckeyes but I feel just about as strongly about Harbaugh. I'll be rooting for whichever team hurts the B10 playoff chances by winning.

This has all been an interesting development. There has always been a decent sized t-shirt Michigan fan base in Greater Cincinnati. My guess is many of them became Michigan fans out of opposition to Ohio State. Starting to think that a few will find themselves in the pickle of now not rooting for either. That is a good for UC.

The moral to all of this is that it is a conflict of interest to be a UC fan and root for another school in the region. Eventually, there will be a conflict of interest. Our fans/alums/students rooting for OSU, Michigan, UK, Indiana (even casually) is the reason why we are stuck in the AAC.

Bolded, sad but true. It's improved dramatically since I was an undergraduate. Back then you'd see more sweatshirts from those schools than UC gear on any given day on campus.

It's about long term sustainability. Building a top 25 program and growing the fanbase. That takes a lot of time, care and feeding.

Still, beat OSU next month and watch the UC gear fly off the shelves locally, as never before.

Indiana?...the other 3 yeah and Notre Dame
 
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(07-30-2019 03:56 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  This has all been an interesting development. There has always been a decent sized t-shirt Michigan fan base in Greater Cincinnati. My guess is many of them became Michigan fans out of opposition to Ohio State. Starting to think that a few will find themselves in the pickle of now not rooting for either. That is a good for UC.

The moral to all of this is that it is a conflict of interest to be a UC fan and root for another school in the region. Eventually, there will be a conflict of interest. Our fans/alums/students rooting for OSU, Michigan, UK, Indiana (even casually) is the reason why we are stuck in the AAC.

It doesn't help that we are in an NFL market either. I'd say fan interest and dollars invested into the Bengals versus the Bearcats has the single greatest impact. Cincy would basically be Louisville on steroids if it wasn't for that.
 
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(08-13-2019 10:08 PM)bearcatdp Wrote:  Richard Cranium:

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/...993206001/

Michigan coach needs a PR/communications advisor next to him when he speaks.
 
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(07-30-2019 06:19 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  
(07-30-2019 03:56 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  This has all been an interesting development. There has always been a decent sized t-shirt Michigan fan base in Greater Cincinnati. My guess is many of them became Michigan fans out of opposition to Ohio State. Starting to think that a few will find themselves in the pickle of now not rooting for either. That is a good for UC.

The moral to all of this is that it is a conflict of interest to be a UC fan and root for another school in the region. Eventually, there will be a conflict of interest. Our fans/alums/students rooting for OSU, Michigan, UK, Indiana (even casually) is the reason why we are stuck in the AAC.

It doesn't help that we are in an NFL market either. I'd say fan interest and dollars invested into the Bengals versus the Bearcats has the single greatest impact. Cincy would basically be Louisville on steroids if it wasn't for that.

Hopefully another year of the Bengals winning 4 games will continue to push people towards the Cats. I know it will never happen, but UC aught to do a marketing campaign to remind people that the Bengals haven't won a playoff game since 1988 and Reagan was president.

I was trying to figure this out the other day. With a truly random selection of the 32 teams, what percentage of teams would win a playoff game everyone year.?
 
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(08-14-2019 08:31 AM)skylinecat Wrote:  
(07-30-2019 06:19 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  
(07-30-2019 03:56 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  This has all been an interesting development. There has always been a decent sized t-shirt Michigan fan base in Greater Cincinnati. My guess is many of them became Michigan fans out of opposition to Ohio State. Starting to think that a few will find themselves in the pickle of now not rooting for either. That is a good for UC.

The moral to all of this is that it is a conflict of interest to be a UC fan and root for another school in the region. Eventually, there will be a conflict of interest. Our fans/alums/students rooting for OSU, Michigan, UK, Indiana (even casually) is the reason why we are stuck in the AAC.

It doesn't help that we are in an NFL market either. I'd say fan interest and dollars invested into the Bengals versus the Bearcats has the single greatest impact. Cincy would basically be Louisville on steroids if it wasn't for that.

Hopefully another year of the Bengals winning 4 games will continue to push people towards the Cats. I know it will never happen, but UC aught to do a marketing campaign to remind people that the Bengals haven't won a playoff game since 1988 and Reagan was president.

I was trying to figure this out the other day. With a truly random selection of the 32 teams, what percentage of teams would win a playoff game everyone year.?

I think this year UC has a lot of momentum while maybe for the first time in over 30 years, people are finally in "Ok I am not going to let the Bengals get away with this crap anymore" mode. Seems like the media in town is covering UC football at a clip that has never been done in town (with the exception of the back half of 2009).

However, as I have long pointed out that while most UC fans are also Bengals fans, most Bengal fans are not UC fans. Most of their fan base are people who do not follow college sports beyond the game of the week on ABC, and the rest are primarily Ohio State or UK fans.
 
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(08-14-2019 08:31 AM)skylinecat Wrote:  
(07-30-2019 06:19 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  
(07-30-2019 03:56 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  This has all been an interesting development. There has always been a decent sized t-shirt Michigan fan base in Greater Cincinnati. My guess is many of them became Michigan fans out of opposition to Ohio State. Starting to think that a few will find themselves in the pickle of now not rooting for either. That is a good for UC.

The moral to all of this is that it is a conflict of interest to be a UC fan and root for another school in the region. Eventually, there will be a conflict of interest. Our fans/alums/students rooting for OSU, Michigan, UK, Indiana (even casually) is the reason why we are stuck in the AAC.

It doesn't help that we are in an NFL market either. I'd say fan interest and dollars invested into the Bengals versus the Bearcats has the single greatest impact. Cincy would basically be Louisville on steroids if it wasn't for that.

Hopefully another year of the Bengals winning 4 games will continue to push people towards the Cats. I know it will never happen, but UC aught to do a marketing campaign to remind people that the Bengals haven't won a playoff game since 1988 and Reagan was president.

I was trying to figure this out the other day. With a truly random selection of the 32 teams, what percentage of teams would win a playoff game everyone year.?

You are right that it would never happen. The Bengals and UC have a friendship that started when the Bengals were an expansion team and played their home games at Nippert, and continues today with UC playing their big games at PBS and the Bengals using UC's indoor practice facility. That relationship will never be broken and they wouldn't do anything to piss each other off. That's why we have never seen any anti-Bengals marketing from UC.
 
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I don't think alienating Bengals fans is a good way to market UC.
 
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(08-14-2019 08:46 AM)Cat-Man Wrote:  
(08-14-2019 08:31 AM)skylinecat Wrote:  
(07-30-2019 06:19 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  
(07-30-2019 03:56 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  This has all been an interesting development. There has always been a decent sized t-shirt Michigan fan base in Greater Cincinnati. My guess is many of them became Michigan fans out of opposition to Ohio State. Starting to think that a few will find themselves in the pickle of now not rooting for either. That is a good for UC.

The moral to all of this is that it is a conflict of interest to be a UC fan and root for another school in the region. Eventually, there will be a conflict of interest. Our fans/alums/students rooting for OSU, Michigan, UK, Indiana (even casually) is the reason why we are stuck in the AAC.

It doesn't help that we are in an NFL market either. I'd say fan interest and dollars invested into the Bengals versus the Bearcats has the single greatest impact. Cincy would basically be Louisville on steroids if it wasn't for that.

Hopefully another year of the Bengals winning 4 games will continue to push people towards the Cats. I know it will never happen, but UC aught to do a marketing campaign to remind people that the Bengals haven't won a playoff game since 1988 and Reagan was president.

I was trying to figure this out the other day. With a truly random selection of the 32 teams, what percentage of teams would win a playoff game everyone year.?

You are right that it would never happen. The Bengals and UC have a friendship that started when the Bengals were an expansion team and played their home games at Nippert, and continues today with UC playing their big games at PBS and the Bengals using UC's indoor practice facility. That relationship will never be broken and they wouldn't do anything to piss each other off. That's why we have never seen any anti-Bengals marketing from UC.

I get what you're trying to say, but why is Hang On Sloopy played at every Bengals game? I've always felt like the Bengals have tried to identify more with OSU than with the schools in their own city.
 
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(08-14-2019 08:52 AM)Jchuges7 Wrote:  
(08-14-2019 08:46 AM)Cat-Man Wrote:  
(08-14-2019 08:31 AM)skylinecat Wrote:  
(07-30-2019 06:19 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  
(07-30-2019 03:56 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  This has all been an interesting development. There has always been a decent sized t-shirt Michigan fan base in Greater Cincinnati. My guess is many of them became Michigan fans out of opposition to Ohio State. Starting to think that a few will find themselves in the pickle of now not rooting for either. That is a good for UC.

The moral to all of this is that it is a conflict of interest to be a UC fan and root for another school in the region. Eventually, there will be a conflict of interest. Our fans/alums/students rooting for OSU, Michigan, UK, Indiana (even casually) is the reason why we are stuck in the AAC.

It doesn't help that we are in an NFL market either. I'd say fan interest and dollars invested into the Bengals versus the Bearcats has the single greatest impact. Cincy would basically be Louisville on steroids if it wasn't for that.

Hopefully another year of the Bengals winning 4 games will continue to push people towards the Cats. I know it will never happen, but UC aught to do a marketing campaign to remind people that the Bengals haven't won a playoff game since 1988 and Reagan was president.

I was trying to figure this out the other day. With a truly random selection of the 32 teams, what percentage of teams would win a playoff game everyone year.?

You are right that it would never happen. The Bengals and UC have a friendship that started when the Bengals were an expansion team and played their home games at Nippert, and continues today with UC playing their big games at PBS and the Bengals using UC's indoor practice facility. That relationship will never be broken and they wouldn't do anything to piss each other off. That's why we have never seen any anti-Bengals marketing from UC.

I get what you're trying to say, but why is Hang On Sloopy played at every Bengals game? I've always felt like the Bengals have tried to identify more with OSU than with the schools in their own city.

Hang on Sloopy is the official rock song of the state of Ohio. Rick Derringer is from Ohio and the McCoys are from Union City which borders Ohio. The song is played during all Cleveland sports games. I know the song is heavily associated with Ohio State at this point, but it is also associated with Ohio, and I know that is something Cincinnati often likes to disassociate from.
 
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Jim Harbaugh alleges Luke Fickell 'tried to coach' him into helping James Hudson's waiver
Fletcher Page, Cincinnati Enquirer Published 10:36 p.m. ET Aug. 13, 2019 | Updated 11:47 p.m. ET Aug. 13, 2019


Michigan coach Jim Harbaugh offered his side of the James Hudson transfer story on Tuesday in response to Cincinnati coach Luke Fickell's stance that Michigan wasn't helpful during Hudson's eligibility waiver process.

“Michigan did not block the waiver," Harbaugh told reporters. "We wish James Hudson well. But that is not in the coach’s hands. That is not in the university’s hands. It’s not in his hands. The way the process works right now, those waivers are decided by the NCAA.”

Three UC transfers – wide receiver Blue Smith (previously at Ohio State), linebacker Darrian Beavers (UConn) and safety Kyriq McDonald (Alabama) – received the waiver earlier this month and can play this season. At least one of those cases (Smith's), Fickell confirmed, cited mental health. Hudson's did, too.

“The University of Cincinnati filed a waiver for me to be immediately eligible," said Hudson, a 6-foot-5, 300-pound former four-star recruit from Toledo Central Catholic, in the spring via Twitter. "The NCAA has denied my waiver specifically because I never spoke up about my mental struggles to the administration at the University of Michigan.

“Like many football players I was afraid to speak up about my depression not wanting to look weak. Now the NCAA is telling me that my courage to step forward and speak about my issues was done too late and subjectively my 'Circumstances do not warrant relief.'"

The NCAA denied a waiver for Hudson to play this season in May. Hudson practiced with the Bearcats in December leading up to the Military Bowl. He played three games for Michigan in 2018.

Fickell told The Athletic this week that "all the power is in the hands of the school a player is leaving," just days after crediting Ohio State for the way it handled Smith's transfer and waiver process.

“I read Luke Fickell’s comments. Unless I’m reading them wrong or mistaken, I believe he’s under the impression that these waivers are decided, coach to coach, in some kind of deal fashion," Harbaugh said. "That is not the understanding that I’m under. I’m under the understanding that the NCAA decides these waivers. Unless (Fickell) has something that he can bring forth and share and enlighten us and the entire football world, I would really like to know what that is because he called me in March and he wanted to know about the position switch that James was switched from defensive line to offensive line.

"I said, 'Yeah, after two weeks of practice of watching James at defensive line, I personally, not other coaches, went up to him and said, 'James I think you’ve got the body type to be a really good offensive tackle.' We don’t mandate what positions players play at the University of Michigan.

"You can compete at whatever position that you want, if you want to try it out. He did. It turned out he was really good. He was really good at that offensive line position. That’s what I told Coach Fickell. Exactly the way it happened when I talked to James on the field that day."

Harbaugh alleged Fickell, "tried to coach" him into helping Hudson's waiver get approved during a phone call in March.

“As I said, he tried to coach me into saying it differently, not saying it that way, and I told him, I’m not going to lie," Harbaugh said. "That I can tell you. I’m going to tell the truth. Didn’t like the version that I was given.

"I read the article, he asked a question in the article. 'What’s most important? Your personal beliefs, or what’s in the best interests of the kid?' I can answer that. What’s most important is the truth. And if his questioning what my personal beliefs are, then that’s what I believe. I believe in being forthright, honest, telling the truth.

"I’m astounded that he’s gotten to where he's at by not knowing the answer to that question. He keeps trying to make it about that it’s Michigan that blocked the transfer waiver or Michigan has somehow decided not to grant this waiver. And that’s, again, not how this process works in my understanding. As it related to the waiver, I didn’t write the waiver, our compliance asked me one question. They asked me the question of how did the process happen with James switching from defensive line to offensive line. The same thing I told you just now, I told James on the field that day, and I told Coach Fickell. That’s the only part that I’ve been asked to talk about by our compliance department."

Harbaugh has said in the past he believes transfers should be allowed to leave a school with instant eligibility once, no matter the circumstances. He repeated that on Tuesday. But he expressed doubt last month when asked during a radio interview with ESPNU whether college athletes should be allowed to gain immediate eligibility under the current rules in place due to mental-health or depression-related conditions.

"And the other piece that bothers me about it is the youngster that says, 'This is a mental health issue. I'm suffering from depression,'" Harbaugh said. "Or that's a reason to get eligible. And once that's known: 'Hey, say this or say that' to get eligible. The problem I see in that is you're going to have guys that are, 'Okay, yeah, I'm depressed.'

"Say what they've got to say. But down the road, I don't see that helping them if it's not a legitimate thing. But nobody would know. But what are you going to say? Ten years down the road – 'I just had to say what I had to say?' And I think you're putting them in a position that's unfair, not right. And, as you said, you're saying it just to say it. And that's not truthful. That's not necessarily truthful. It's not something we should be promoting at the college level. Telling the truth matters. Especially at a college. You can't have experiments that aren't truthful. You can't lie about equations – shouldn't be lying in football. That's a message that we should be teaching."

Hudson's final appeal to play this season was denied last month. Fickell said he's met with Hudson individually on multiple occasions to help keep Hudson's mindset in a positive frame.

"We are extremely disappointed in the NCAA’s decision and remain steadfast in our unequivocal support of James Hudson," said UC director of athletics Mike Bohn in a statement. "The mental health of all (student-athletes) should be paramount in our decision-making."

Fickell, entering his third year with the Bearcats, said the NCAA's waiver process isn't good for the players, the football programs or the NCAA.

"It's really difficult, and it puts a lot of people in some really tough situations," he said. "Ultimately (the player) is the one that takes, not the blame, but all the pressure and all the stress. Once (the NCAA) makes a decision they walk away. It's an 18- to 21-year-old kid that has to live and deal with all the things that they decide and then they walk away. So I think it's a really difficult situation, but it can be done the right way and when you work together and do what's best for the kid as you see with Blue's situation, things work out."
 
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(08-14-2019 08:52 AM)Jchuges7 Wrote:  
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(08-14-2019 08:31 AM)skylinecat Wrote:  
(07-30-2019 06:19 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  
(07-30-2019 03:56 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  This has all been an interesting development. There has always been a decent sized t-shirt Michigan fan base in Greater Cincinnati. My guess is many of them became Michigan fans out of opposition to Ohio State. Starting to think that a few will find themselves in the pickle of now not rooting for either. That is a good for UC.

The moral to all of this is that it is a conflict of interest to be a UC fan and root for another school in the region. Eventually, there will be a conflict of interest. Our fans/alums/students rooting for OSU, Michigan, UK, Indiana (even casually) is the reason why we are stuck in the AAC.

It doesn't help that we are in an NFL market either. I'd say fan interest and dollars invested into the Bengals versus the Bearcats has the single greatest impact. Cincy would basically be Louisville on steroids if it wasn't for that.

Hopefully another year of the Bengals winning 4 games will continue to push people towards the Cats. I know it will never happen, but UC aught to do a marketing campaign to remind people that the Bengals haven't won a playoff game since 1988 and Reagan was president.

I was trying to figure this out the other day. With a truly random selection of the 32 teams, what percentage of teams would win a playoff game everyone year.?

You are right that it would never happen. The Bengals and UC have a friendship that started when the Bengals were an expansion team and played their home games at Nippert, and continues today with UC playing their big games at PBS and the Bengals using UC's indoor practice facility. That relationship will never be broken and they wouldn't do anything to piss each other off. That's why we have never seen any anti-Bengals marketing from UC.

I get what you're trying to say, but why is Hang On Sloopy played at every Bengals game? I've always felt like the Bengals have tried to identify more with OSU than with the schools in their own city.

I would agree with that, but I think that has more to do with Paul Brown being a former student and coach at OSU.
 
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(08-14-2019 09:00 AM)Banter Wrote:  
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(08-14-2019 08:46 AM)Cat-Man Wrote:  
(08-14-2019 08:31 AM)skylinecat Wrote:  
(07-30-2019 06:19 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  It doesn't help that we are in an NFL market either. I'd say fan interest and dollars invested into the Bengals versus the Bearcats has the single greatest impact. Cincy would basically be Louisville on steroids if it wasn't for that.

Hopefully another year of the Bengals winning 4 games will continue to push people towards the Cats. I know it will never happen, but UC aught to do a marketing campaign to remind people that the Bengals haven't won a playoff game since 1988 and Reagan was president.

I was trying to figure this out the other day. With a truly random selection of the 32 teams, what percentage of teams would win a playoff game everyone year.?

You are right that it would never happen. The Bengals and UC have a friendship that started when the Bengals were an expansion team and played their home games at Nippert, and continues today with UC playing their big games at PBS and the Bengals using UC's indoor practice facility. That relationship will never be broken and they wouldn't do anything to piss each other off. That's why we have never seen any anti-Bengals marketing from UC.

I get what you're trying to say, but why is Hang On Sloopy played at every Bengals game? I've always felt like the Bengals have tried to identify more with OSU than with the schools in their own city.

Hang on Sloopy is the official rock song of the state of Ohio. Rick Derringer is from Ohio and the McCoys are from Union City which borders Ohio. The song is played during all Cleveland sports games. I know the song is heavily associated with Ohio State at this point, but it is also associated with Ohio, and I know that is something Cincinnati often likes to disassociate from.

Meh- that's the Columbus guy in you speaking. That song is not as big of a deal in Cincinnati as it is in other parts of the state. Most people in Greater Cincinnati don't know that is the State Song and could not tell you where Union City even is. The fact that it is played at Cleveland sporting event is even more the reason it should not be played at Bengal games. Bengals should share with the Reds and play Connie Smith's "Cincinnati, Ohio". (in fact UC should do it as well but they are more interesting in appeasing the kids by blaring hip hop 24/7).
 
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Hang on Sloopy isn't a good song already, but OSU fans have made it an intolerable song.

I specified to our band at our wedding that they were under no circumstances to play Hang on Sloopy.
 
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(08-14-2019 09:29 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Hang on Sloopy isn't a good song already, but OSU fans have made it an intolerable song.

I specified to our band at our wedding that they were under no circumstances to play Hang on Sloopy.

I'm with you. I associate it completely with OSU and want no part of it at games in Cincinnati.

That the Brown family chose to use it for years at Bengals games suggests either they are either tone deaf when it comes to understanding their greater Cincinnati market or that their first loyalty is to OSU.
 
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(08-14-2019 08:52 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  I don't think alienating Bengals fans is a good way to market UC.

Best to leave alienating Bengals fans to the Bengals.
 
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(08-14-2019 09:45 AM)MickMack Wrote:  Best to leave alienating Bengals fans to the Bengals.

They are really good at it!
 
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(08-14-2019 08:52 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  I don't think alienating Bengals fans is a good way to market UC.

Best to leave alienating Bengals fans to the Bengals.

UC's pretty good at taking the high road. I think Fickell will here too.
 
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