SEC does it like this, play everyone in division, one permanent cross- div rival (ex. UGA vs Auburn, AL vs UTK) & rotate other cross- div games after H&H.

AAC could do a variation of this so that over 4 yrs everyone plays everyone else H&H.

(07-17-2019 08:11 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(07-17-2019 07:21 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Since there aren't any real rivalries accept UCF USF, I think they'll do the matchups based on what makes the most financial sense. Right now, for Memphis, I think the biggest TV draw would be Memphis vs UCF in Memphis vs Houston. Actually I think those two matchups would be two of the biggest draws in the conference right now. They can call them permanent but these can be changed whenever it makes sense to.

if the idea is to draw eyeballs that would not otherwise watch I think UCF and Houston or Cincinnati are really no-brainers for Memphis.

You have to put your best football properties against each other if you want to draw attention.

(07-17-2019 06:39 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Cincinnati

not

Cincinatti

I would expect more out of a Tulsa person. Then again, maybe I wouldn't....

Lol I wrote it twenty times I'm struggling to find it. But my sincerest apologies to the bearkats....

(07-17-2019 08:15 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(07-17-2019 08:11 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(07-17-2019 07:21 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Since there aren't any real rivalries accept UCF USF, I think they'll do the matchups based on what makes the most financial sense. Right now, for Memphis, I think the biggest TV draw would be Memphis vs UCF in Memphis vs Houston. Actually I think those two matchups would be two of the biggest draws in the conference right now. They can call them permanent but these can be changed whenever it makes sense to.

if the idea is to draw eyeballs that would not otherwise watch I think UCF and Houston or Cincinnati are really no-brainers for Memphis.

You have to put your best football properties against each other if you want to draw attention.

There are some rivalries and certain schools who want to play each other but the field.is wid open. You miss two opponents for two years of eight so it shouldn't be too hard. Have it make some geographical sense and keep.a few key series and this could be a nice bonus to tie the league tighter together.

(07-16-2019 09:16 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 07:39 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  At media days Aresco talk about how the B1G scheduled with 11 teams. Something about two permanent intra-conference opponents and then a rotation of intra-conference opponents after that. If we adopt this I'm curious how do we optimize, for the conference's sake, those two permanent match ups. Geography is not a strong point of this conference. There are no real existing rivalries outside of UCF and USF. There does however has to be a best or better way to do this... over picking two out of a hat. I'd be interested in hearing ideas.

So just going off the top of my head.

Tulsa vs SMU and Houston
SMU vs Tulsa and Navy
Houston vs Tulane and Tulsa
Tulane vs Houston and ECU
Memphis vs Cincinatti and UCF
Navy vs SMU and USF
Cincinatti vs Memphis and Temple
Temple vs Cincinatti and ECU
ECU vs Temple and Tulane
USF vs UCF and Navy
UCF vs Memphis and USF

This makes the most sense to me. Note: Navy is going to want to play SMU for sure.

(07-17-2019 08:21 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 09:16 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 07:39 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  At media days Aresco talk about how the B1G scheduled with 11 teams. Something about two permanent intra-conference opponents and then a rotation of intra-conference opponents after that. If we adopt this I'm curious how do we optimize, for the conference's sake, those two permanent match ups. Geography is not a strong point of this conference. There are no real existing rivalries outside of UCF and USF. There does however has to be a best or better way to do this... over picking two out of a hat. I'd be interested in hearing ideas.

So just going off the top of my head.

Tulsa vs SMU and Houston
SMU vs Tulsa and Navy
Houston vs Tulane and Tulsa
Tulane vs Houston and ECU
Memphis vs Cincinatti and UCF
Navy vs SMU and USF
Cincinatti vs Memphis and Temple
Temple vs Cincinatti and ECU
ECU vs Temple and Tulane
USF vs UCF and Navy
UCF vs Memphis and USF

This makes the most sense to me. Note: Navy is going to want to play SMU for sure.

True. They want the private schools and the national footprint. Pairing them with Temple/ECU though would mean they play 2/3 every year and all 3 for six of eight years. While still having plenty of games vs western teams.

I know everybody wants UC, understandably. I need some space and time to sort this out and to make an informed decision. I need everyone to relax.

(07-17-2019 08:32 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(07-17-2019 08:21 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 09:16 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 07:39 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  At media days Aresco talk about how the B1G scheduled with 11 teams. Something about two permanent intra-conference opponents and then a rotation of intra-conference opponents after that. If we adopt this I'm curious how do we optimize, for the conference's sake, those two permanent match ups. Geography is not a strong point of this conference. There are no real existing rivalries outside of UCF and USF. There does however has to be a best or better way to do this... over picking two out of a hat. I'd be interested in hearing ideas.

So just going off the top of my head.

Tulsa vs SMU and Houston
SMU vs Tulsa and Navy
Houston vs Tulane and Tulsa
Tulane vs Houston and ECU
Memphis vs Cincinatti and UCF
Navy vs SMU and USF
Cincinatti vs Memphis and Temple
Temple vs Cincinatti and ECU
ECU vs Temple and Tulane
USF vs UCF and Navy
UCF vs Memphis and USF

This makes the most sense to me. Note: Navy is going to want to play SMU for sure.

True. They want the private schools and the national footprint. Pairing them with Temple/ECU though would mean they play 2/3 every year and all 3 for six of eight years. While still having plenty of games vs western teams.

I would wager that Navy wants to be paired with SMU and Tulane. They have a long history with both schools, go check it out. I would think that this is the reason that Navy requested that be placed in the Western Division.

(07-16-2019 11:02 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Or more likely

Tulsa vs Tulane and Houston
Tulane vs Tulsa and USF
USF vs Tulane and UCF
UCF vs USF and ECU
ECU vs UCF and Navy
Navy vs ECU and Temple
Temple vs Navy and Cincy
Cincinnati vs Temple and Memphis
Memphis vs Cincinatti and SMU
SMU vs Memphis and Houston
Houston vs SMU and Tulsa

I would definitely want an annual Navy matchup. We have a lot of alums in the DC/Annapolis area and a lot of people make the trip.

We have a lot of history with UCF, so that works, but Temple might make more sense as the other just based on geography. While Orlando isn't THAT much farther, we have direct flights to Philly from here in Wilmington, but not to Orlando.

For Memphis....I think Houston is a lock and then either Cincy/UCF


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(07-17-2019 08:37 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I know everybody wants UC, understandably. I need some space and time to sort this out and to make an informed decision. I need everyone to relax.

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Tulane and Cincy for Memphis if it was my choice.

(07-17-2019 08:44 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(07-17-2019 08:32 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(07-17-2019 08:21 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 09:16 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 07:39 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  At media days Aresco talk about how the B1G scheduled with 11 teams. Something about two permanent intra-conference opponents and then a rotation of intra-conference opponents after that. If we adopt this I'm curious how do we optimize, for the conference's sake, those two permanent match ups. Geography is not a strong point of this conference. There are no real existing rivalries outside of UCF and USF. There does however has to be a best or better way to do this... over picking two out of a hat. I'd be interested in hearing ideas.

So just going off the top of my head.

Tulsa vs SMU and Houston
SMU vs Tulsa and Navy
Houston vs Tulane and Tulsa
Tulane vs Houston and ECU
Memphis vs Cincinatti and UCF
Navy vs SMU and USF
Cincinatti vs Memphis and Temple
Temple vs Cincinatti and ECU
ECU vs Temple and Tulane
USF vs UCF and Navy
UCF vs Memphis and USF

This makes the most sense to me. Note: Navy is going to want to play SMU for sure.

True. They want the private schools and the national footprint. Pairing them with Temple/ECU though would mean they play 2/3 every year and all 3 for six of eight years. While still having plenty of games vs western teams.

I would wager that Navy wants to be paired with SMU and Tulane. They have a long history with both schools, go check it out. I would think that this is the reason that Navy requested that be placed in the Western Division.

Yeah they sure do:

SMU 20 games (4 in conference)
Tulane 23 games (4 in conference)

Navy wants in the West for the private schools who face similar restrictions and requirements and to keep a national footprint they cultivated as an independent, which they continue through neutral games vs Army and Navy as well as traveling to the west division and playing cross overs in the east where their home games are held.

(07-17-2019 07:21 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Since there aren't any real rivalries accept UCF USF, I think they'll do the matchups based on what makes the most financial sense. Right now, for Memphis, I think the biggest TV draw would be Memphis vs UCF in Memphis vs Houston. Actually I think those two matchups would be two of the biggest draws in the conference right now. They can call them permanent but these can be changed whenever it makes sense to.

I'm with you. Both UCF and Houston are turning into hatefests for Memphis fans.

(07-17-2019 09:14 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  Tulane and Cincy for Memphis if it was my choice.

Same here. Or maybe throw in Houston or UCF. Those are the 4 we have something going with in football (Houston & UCF), or just overall history (UC and Tulane).

People need to remember that this is different than divisions.

You will not play two teams for two years, then play them 6 years in a row.

Example:

Year 1

Navy vs SMU and USF

Would play home
Tulsa
Memphis
ECU

Would play away
Cincinnati
Houston
Temple

Avoid playing
UCF
Tulane

Year 2

Navy SMU and USF

Home
Cincinnati
Houston
Temple

Away
Tulsa
Memphis
ECU

Avoid
UCF
Tulane

Year 3

Navy SMU and USF

Home
UCF
Memphis
ECU

Away
Tulane
Houston
Temple

Avoid
Tulsa
Cincinnati

Navy is going to want 2 of Tulsa/Tulane/SMU as permanent opponents. If they wanted to play usf or ECU every season they wouldn't have requested the western division when they joined.

(07-17-2019 08:15 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(07-17-2019 08:11 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(07-17-2019 07:21 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Since there aren't any real rivalries accept UCF USF, I think they'll do the matchups based on what makes the most financial sense. Right now, for Memphis, I think the biggest TV draw would be Memphis vs UCF in Memphis vs Houston. Actually I think those two matchups would be two of the biggest draws in the conference right now. They can call them permanent but these can be changed whenever it makes sense to.

if the idea is to draw eyeballs that would not otherwise watch I think UCF and Houston or Cincinnati are really no-brainers for Memphis.

You have to put your best football properties against each other if you want to draw attention.

Wrong answer. Sorry to tell you. UCF owns Memphis. I can’t remember Memphis ever beating them. ECU has played UCF more than anybody else. UCF should be playing USF and us. And the other team for ECU should be Temple, another long-standing rival.

(07-17-2019 09:36 AM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  

(07-17-2019 08:15 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(07-17-2019 08:11 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(07-17-2019 07:21 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Since there aren't any real rivalries accept UCF USF, I think they'll do the matchups based on what makes the most financial sense. Right now, for Memphis, I think the biggest TV draw would be Memphis vs UCF in Memphis vs Houston. Actually I think those two matchups would be two of the biggest draws in the conference right now. They can call them permanent but these can be changed whenever it makes sense to.

if the idea is to draw eyeballs that would not otherwise watch I think UCF and Houston or Cincinnati are really no-brainers for Memphis.

You have to put your best football properties against each other if you want to draw attention.

Wrong answer. Sorry to tell you. UCF owns Memphis. I can’t remember Memphis ever beating them. ECU has played UCF more than anybody else. UCF should be playing USF and us. And the other team for ECU should be Temple, another long-standing rival.

Hey, we beat them once, lol. And we could have easily won the last 2 AAC CCGs against them.

Where was ECU during that? Oh yeah, the past 2 seasons, I will remind you of a couple of scores. 59-41 and 70-13.

(07-17-2019 09:43 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-17-2019 09:36 AM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  

(07-17-2019 08:15 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(07-17-2019 08:11 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(07-17-2019 07:21 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Since there aren't any real rivalries accept UCF USF, I think they'll do the matchups based on what makes the most financial sense. Right now, for Memphis, I think the biggest TV draw would be Memphis vs UCF in Memphis vs Houston. Actually I think those two matchups would be two of the biggest draws in the conference right now. They can call them permanent but these can be changed whenever it makes sense to.

if the idea is to draw eyeballs that would not otherwise watch I think UCF and Houston or Cincinnati are really no-brainers for Memphis.

You have to put your best football properties against each other if you want to draw attention.

Wrong answer. Sorry to tell you. UCF owns Memphis. I can’t remember Memphis ever beating them. ECU has played UCF more than anybody else. UCF should be playing USF and us. And the other team for ECU should be Temple, another long-standing rival.

Hey, we beat them once, lol. And we could have easily won the last 2 AAC CCGs against them.

Where was ECU during that? Oh yeah, the past 2 seasons, I will remind you of a couple of scores. 59-41 and 70-13.

Geez. Nooo. Please don’t remind me of that. The last three years have been painful for us, dark, dark, days. We are about to rise from the ashes though. Thank you Mike Houston.