Steve Ehrhart, LB director, is at media days and said the conference isn't rushing out to replace UCONN. Working out logistics of UCONN exit whether it's for '20 or '21 fball season. Thinks they'll get a waiver. Ehrhart brought up several schools and he [Aresco] said "No, we're not going to take any calls right now."

(07-16-2019 10:02 AM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  What was his exact statement / words? If he said "no plans", that doesn't mean jack squat. Thats just him saying, "I am not going to discuss this" , without completely lieing. No plans means just that. Its ambiguous and a way to answer the question (which i did not hear the question, if there was one), or appear to provide info, without really giving the goods. Its like someone saying, "I have no plans for lunch today". Damn well know youre gonna eat, you just dont have plans for it.

Now, if he were to say, the AAC will not be adding a 12th team and will be staying at 11 teams through the 20XX season, then thats different and actually saying something. Otherwise, the AAC still may be adding a 12th team.

Just accept it, we're not adding Southern Miss. If we were, they'd already be invited.

There's only two options:

#1 We have no interest in replacing UConn
#2 The teams we want to add have no interest in joining the AAC

Neither of these options include a scenario where USM is #12.

For the love of God add VCU.

Still imagine they have to negotiate UConn's exit before adding anyone. I don't think we're getting a firm answer before that happens. You add anyone, especially a football member, before the 27 month exit time frame, you give UConn a lot of leverage. I'm guessing they'd rather let fans hang for a few months or a year than leave millions on the table when UConn turns around and says "you have a 12th member for 2020, and now you need us out"

(07-16-2019 10:27 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 10:22 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 10:12 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  If the NCAA doesn't Grant the waiver we will be adding 1 more to 12 teams in my opinion. The ny6 bowl is too much money to leave on the table.

Ny6 is highest ranked G5 champ, no Conference Championship Game is required.

We can play division round robin with uneven divisions and still have the ccg, no waiver needed.

We may go to 12 but have no compelling reason to at this moment. It seems likely any change will come a year or two down the road IF it happens.

And a waiver is to request an exemption from a round-robin determination of the champion. Right? Without a waiver and without a round robin conference schedule we won't have a recognized champion for NY6. That's my understanding and the reason we're requesting this waiver to begin with.

We can still have a championship game with uneven divisions. The waiver is to allow a game featuring the top two teams without division and without a full round robin (10 conference games per team).

The Championship game is in our ESPN contract. We will be having one.

(07-16-2019 09:39 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I believe Aresco communicated with ESPN before making his statement about staying at 11. It means, to me, UConn's departure will have minimal effect on the media deal. I am curious about the specific figures.

I do not think going to 12 is dead. The wavier may not be approved or legislation passed and the AAC will have to decide if adding a member is better than the hassle of 11 membership without the wavier (e.g., buyouts).

He’s never going to tip his hand. If BYU wants in they are in as long s espn is down with it.

(07-16-2019 10:55 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 10:02 AM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  What was his exact statement / words? If he said "no plans", that doesn't mean jack squat. Thats just him saying, "I am not going to discuss this" , without completely lieing. No plans means just that. Its ambiguous and a way to answer the question (which i did not hear the question, if there was one), or appear to provide info, without really giving the goods. Its like someone saying, "I have no plans for lunch today". Damn well know youre gonna eat, you just dont have plans for it.

Now, if he were to say, the AAC will not be adding a 12th team and will be staying at 11 teams through the 20XX season, then thats different and actually saying something. Otherwise, the AAC still may be adding a 12th team.

Just accept it, we're not adding Southern Miss. If we were, they'd already be invited.

There's only two options:

#1 We have no interest in replacing UConn
#2 The teams we want to add have no interest in joining the AAC

Neither of these options include a scenario where USM is #12.

#3 The teams that some casual fans think are slam-dunk additions aren't considered that valuable by the folks who actually control the AAC levers. BYU, for example. Too far outside the footprint, too much a has-been, and frankly, too weird. Or Boise. Even farther afield, and an academic embarrassment.

(07-16-2019 11:07 AM)The Grape King Wrote:  Still imagine they have to negotiate UConn's exit before adding anyone. I don't think we're getting a firm answer before that happens. You add anyone, especially a football member, before the 27 month exit time frame, you give UConn a lot of leverage.

Bingo.

Premature to discuss expansion for the reason you cite.

Get the UConn deal done first.

(07-16-2019 10:27 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 10:22 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 10:12 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  If the NCAA doesn't Grant the waiver we will be adding 1 more to 12 teams in my opinion. The ny6 bowl is too much money to leave on the table.

Ny6 is highest ranked G5 champ, no Conference Championship Game is required.

We can play division round robin with uneven divisions and still have the ccg, no waiver needed.

We may go to 12 but have no compelling reason to at this moment. It seems likely any change will come a year or two down the road IF it happens.

And a waiver is to request an exemption from a round-robin determination of the champion. Right? Without a waiver and without a round robin conference schedule we won't have a recognized champion for NY6. That's my understanding and the reason we're requesting this waiver to begin with.

Yes that is what we will request.

However we can play round robin in each division and have uneven schedules and have a championship game where the winner of each division plays. That requires no waiver and is our safety net should all other options be tried and fail.

All of this is irrelevant to our NY6 access. Should the championship game be illegitimate (non-NCAA recognized) or we simply not have one (ESPN will not be ok with that) our champion's ranking will determine if we get the access bowl, however we decide who that champion is.

Order of Operations:
1) Change current rule for division requirements. Best option. 40% chance (been rumblings about it it not sure enough support)

2) Apply for waiver with out divisions (2 years usually) Good option. 20% chance (unlikely if 1 is denied)

3) Apply for waiver with one division permitted to skip one opponent. Workable 99% chance (has been granted before)

4) Play divisions, allow uneven schedules. Sucks but it can be done 100% chance (we do not need permission)

(07-16-2019 09:41 AM)2Buck Wrote:  All part of the plan, a few more years and we'll be ready...

El oh el

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It's not as complicated as people are making it out to be.

We do NOT need a waiver if we either...

1. Play a 10 game round robin with no divisions, and the top 2 play in the championship game.
or
2. Play round robin within each division, with the two division winners playing in the championship game.

Option 1 is unlikely as a number of currently scheduled OOC games would have to be cancelled or rescheduled.

Option 2 is possible, although clumsy because teams in the west division would play a different number of conference games than teams in the east division.

It's worse than that.

You can't play a round robin with uneven divsions.

That's why we need a waiver like the MAC got.

(07-16-2019 10:12 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  If the NCAA doesn't Grant the waiver we will be adding 1 more to 12 teams in my opinion. The ny6 bowl is too much money to leave on the table.

What does the NY6 bowl have to do with 11 or 12? We can have a conference champ without a CCG. It would cost us the CCG money, not the NY6 slot or money. We won't do that, but we could.

And, if we don't get the waiver we want, we will probably play 11 with unbalanced divisions, before we add a 12th we don't want.

Rest easy Tulsa

He can't say anything other than what he has been saying without looking like an Idiot or making the conference look bad;

If he says we want BYU and VCU combination to replace UConn and either one fails to join the AAC, Aresco and the AAC look bad.

If he says we want Buffalo and Buffalo doesn't come, Aresco and the AAC look bad.

If he says we want Southern Miss, and Southern Miss says we have no money and or fan support anymore... No, but thank you for asking, Aresco deserves to be fired.

He's saying all the right things.

(07-16-2019 08:19 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

UCONN football. Irreplaceable.

(07-16-2019 07:57 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 08:19 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

UCONN football. Irreplaceable.

In other news Aresco announces "Multiple AAC schools' strength of schedule to improve starting in 2020"

We will get a waiver. We got screwed over.


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(07-16-2019 09:32 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  No point right now if the AAC is going to lose 3 to realignment in the next 5 years.

They can rebuild to 10 later to keep the money split tight.

Becoming more and more unlikely.

(07-16-2019 01:48 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Rest easy Tulsa

I'd keep Tulsa over Tulane.

(07-16-2019 08:19 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

He's either running interference because he's tired of every school in the G4 calling him every day....

or

This is code for "I just talked to ESPN and UCONN leaving isn't going to touch our new contract and so each team will get more money".