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RE: Independence Bowl issues
(07-13-2019 10:05 AM)esayem Wrote:  The Independence Bowl, in the tradition of independence, could also contract some independent teams. This would be similar to what the Liberty Bowl did in the 90’s.

The bowl has been around a long time and probably should focus on a C-USA and Sun Belt tie-in. Throw in some independent teams starved for a bowl, and you may be surprised by the turnout.

Army is usually taken by the Armed Forces Bowl. BYU is possible—-but I doubt they want to come there 6 years in a row. The rest of the Indy’s are too far away and not particularly attractive to a Louisiana bowl. No, at this point an AAC vs CUSA would probably bring the best crowds. They have the next biggest fan bases within driving distance. However, recent Aresco comments would lead me to believe the AAC has no openings because it is has already committed to the ESPN G5 junk bowl pool. Thus, I think there is a good chance the Indy either goes SBC vs CUSA or it becomes part of the ESPN junk bowl pool (probably their absolute best option at this point). Dont be surprised if the next news we hear is the Indy Bowl is being sold to ESPN.
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RE: Independence Bowl issues
(07-13-2019 12:30 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(07-13-2019 10:05 AM)esayem Wrote:  The Independence Bowl, in the tradition of independence, could also contract some independent teams. This would be similar to what the Liberty Bowl did in the 90’s.

The bowl has been around a long time and probably should focus on a C-USA and Sun Belt tie-in. Throw in some independent teams starved for a bowl, and you may be surprised by the turnout.

Army is usually taken by the Armed Forces Bowl. BYU is possible—-but I doubt they want to come there 6 years in a row. The rest of the Indy’s are too far away and not particularly attractive to a Louisiana bowl. No, at this point an AAC vs CUSA would probably bring the best crowds. They have the next biggest fan bases within driving distance. However, recent Aresco comments would lead me to believe the AAC has no openings because it is has already committed to the ESPN G5 junk bowl pool. Thus, I think there is a good chance the Indy either goes SBC vs CUSA or it becomes part of the ESPN junk bowl pool (probably their absolute best option at this point). Dont be surprised if the next news we hear is the Indy Bowl is being sold to ESPN.

AC, that would not surprise me either.
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CUSA first selection I think would have some value.

That would mean CUSA West most of the time.

MAC first selection might work too. They said they want to commit to 6 bowl games but have not signed the games in Alabama. They could let CUSA have one of the Alabama games.

The date is especially attractive compared to some of the other games and it has tradition, over 45 years plus is played in a 48,000 seat stadium.
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(07-13-2019 04:00 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  CUSA first selection I think would have some value.

That would mean CUSA West most of the time.

MAC first selection might work too. They said they want to commit to 6 bowl games but have not signed the games in Alabama. They could let CUSA have one of the Alabama games.

The date is especially attractive compared to some of the other games and it has tradition, over 45 years plus is played in a 48,000 seat stadium.

I’d be thrilled to send the MAC champion to a bowl with as much tradition as the Independence Bowl. As good as you can ask for.
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(07-13-2019 10:53 AM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  Am I the only one who doesn’t find Shreveport undesirable?

I’ve been there a few times and never had a bad experience. It’s not NOLA or Las Vegas but I’d rather go to Shreveport for a bowl game than Little Rock or Tulsa (if they had one).

I can see the issue of flying there though. Shreveport is not an easy place to fly to/from. But DFW and Love Field are just 3 hours away.

Do you know anyone who wants to fly in to Dallas, with the hassle that entails, and then drive three hours to Shreveport?

I do not. 07-coffee3

Flying to Dallas is way cheaper than Shreveport and there’s more flight options. Especially if you’re flying with family.

Based on the last matchup (Duke vs Temple) fares between 12/25 and 12/27 (the game this year is on 12/26) from Raleigh to Shreveport on Delta is $368 RT with a 7 hour layover in Atlanta. If you’re flying American or United is $503. Dallas? 272.....nonstop. From Philadelphia is $388 on Delta with a 8 hour layover in ATL. It’s $548 on United with a stop in Houston and $579 on American with a stop in Charlotte. DFW? $222.....nonstop.

That makes a huge difference if you’re flying with the wife and probably the kids. Even renting a car and driving the 3 hours to Shreveport is worth the savings.

Yes, but getting in a car and driving 3 hours is a pain in the arse after flying.
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These bowls have a lot of value to the P5 beyond their payouts. They allow the schools to pad their resume with "bowl game." The bowls usually don't whine too much about attendance. If you are 7 or 8 in the pecking order, you are not going to get a lot of attendance anyway. They allow additional practices. We can complain about Shreveport but these bowls fulfill a need (want?).
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(07-13-2019 05:59 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(07-13-2019 11:27 AM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  
(07-13-2019 10:57 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(07-13-2019 10:53 AM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  Am I the only one who doesn’t find Shreveport undesirable?

I’ve been there a few times and never had a bad experience. It’s not NOLA or Las Vegas but I’d rather go to Shreveport for a bowl game than Little Rock or Tulsa (if they had one).

I can see the issue of flying there though. Shreveport is not an easy place to fly to/from. But DFW and Love Field are just 3 hours away.

Do you know anyone who wants to fly in to Dallas, with the hassle that entails, and then drive three hours to Shreveport?

I do not. 07-coffee3

Flying to Dallas is way cheaper than Shreveport and there’s more flight options. Especially if you’re flying with family.

Based on the last matchup (Duke vs Temple) fares between 12/25 and 12/27 (the game this year is on 12/26) from Raleigh to Shreveport on Delta is $368 RT with a 7 hour layover in Atlanta. If you’re flying American or United is $503. Dallas? 272.....nonstop. From Philadelphia is $388 on Delta with a 8 hour layover in ATL. It’s $548 on United with a stop in Houston and $579 on American with a stop in Charlotte. DFW? $222.....nonstop.

That makes a huge difference if you’re flying with the wife and probably the kids. Even renting a car and driving the 3 hours to Shreveport is worth the savings.

Yes, but getting in a car and driving 3 hours is a pain in the arse after flying.

It’s worse being stuck at an airport for 7 hours for a connecting flight especially if you have kids. There’s few flights to/from Shreveport so the connecting flights take a little longer compared to medium/large airports.

It’s 3 hours not six. Totally doable and worth it if you want to save money.
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(07-13-2019 06:42 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  These bowls have a lot of value to the P5 beyond their payouts. They allow the schools to pad their resume with "bowl game." The bowls usually don't whine too much about attendance. If you are 7 or 8 in the pecking order, you are not going to get a lot of attendance anyway. They allow additional practices. We can complain about Shreveport but these bowls fulfill a need (want?).

True. When you get to this level of bowl, the stadium is basically a TV studio. ESPN is producing a 3 1/2 hour live event which doubles as an advertisement for the host city. It's why Albuquerque has a bowl game on a cold Saturday afternoon in December, and why the state of New Mexico sponsors it.

Shreveport has a bowl game that has been sponsored by Poulan Weed Eater and Duck Commander. We may laugh at Shreveport, but we're talking about it. In this business, there is no such thing as bad publicity.

If ESPN ends up buying the bowl, it's even less risk for the organizers in Shreveport.

Bowls are exhibitions designed to generate tourism for the host city. They'd love to sell tickets and rent hotel rooms. If they can't do that, they'll take the 3 1/2 hours of exposure in hopes that someone will consider them for business or tourism at a later time.
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RE: Independence Bowl issues
(07-13-2019 07:52 PM)johnintx Wrote:  
(07-13-2019 06:42 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  These bowls have a lot of value to the P5 beyond their payouts. They allow the schools to pad their resume with "bowl game." The bowls usually don't whine too much about attendance. If you are 7 or 8 in the pecking order, you are not going to get a lot of attendance anyway. They allow additional practices. We can complain about Shreveport but these bowls fulfill a need (want?).

True. When you get to this level of bowl, the stadium is basically a TV studio. ESPN is producing a 3 1/2 hour live event which doubles as an advertisement for the host city. It's why Albuquerque has a bowl game on a cold Saturday afternoon in December, and why the state of New Mexico sponsors it.

Shreveport has a bowl game that has been sponsored by Poulan Weed Eater and Duck Commander. We may laugh at Shreveport, but we're talking about it. In this business, there is no such thing as bad publicity.

If ESPN ends up buying the bowl, it's even less risk for the organizers in Shreveport.

Bowls are exhibitions designed to generate tourism for the host city. They'd love to sell tickets and rent hotel rooms. If they can't do that, they'll take the 3 1/2 hours of exposure in hopes that someone will consider them for business or tourism at a later time.

Thats why a bowl like this is far more important to a community like Shreveport than it is for a place like Boston, Dallas, or Miami.
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That is why cities go after bowl games like crazy. Except for the couple of bowls on CBSSN (the Cure and the Arizona), the lowest rated bowl game last year was the Bahamas Bowl, on a Friday weekday, with 838,000 viewers.

The Duke-Temple game last year drew 1.801 million viewers on December 27. It beat out all of the First Four NCAA Tournament games, about half of the First Round NCAA games, and Fox’s entire college basketball schedule last year.

It’s a 3 1/2 hour commercial for the city and for the sponsor of the game.
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(07-13-2019 07:29 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  
(07-13-2019 05:59 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(07-13-2019 11:27 AM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  
(07-13-2019 10:57 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(07-13-2019 10:53 AM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  Am I the only one who doesn’t find Shreveport undesirable?

I’ve been there a few times and never had a bad experience. It’s not NOLA or Las Vegas but I’d rather go to Shreveport for a bowl game than Little Rock or Tulsa (if they had one).

I can see the issue of flying there though. Shreveport is not an easy place to fly to/from. But DFW and Love Field are just 3 hours away.

Do you know anyone who wants to fly in to Dallas, with the hassle that entails, and then drive three hours to Shreveport?

I do not. 07-coffee3

Flying to Dallas is way cheaper than Shreveport and there’s more flight options. Especially if you’re flying with family.

Based on the last matchup (Duke vs Temple) fares between 12/25 and 12/27 (the game this year is on 12/26) from Raleigh to Shreveport on Delta is $368 RT with a 7 hour layover in Atlanta. If you’re flying American or United is $503. Dallas? 272.....nonstop. From Philadelphia is $388 on Delta with a 8 hour layover in ATL. It’s $548 on United with a stop in Houston and $579 on American with a stop in Charlotte. DFW? $222.....nonstop.

That makes a huge difference if you’re flying with the wife and probably the kids. Even renting a car and driving the 3 hours to Shreveport is worth the savings.

Yes, but getting in a car and driving 3 hours is a pain in the arse after flying.

It’s worse being stuck at an airport for 7 hours for a connecting flight especially if you have kids. There’s few flights to/from Shreveport so the connecting flights take a little longer compared to medium/large airports.

It’s 3 hours not six. Totally doable and worth it if you want to save money.

First, the cost of renting a car is going to eat in to those $300 in flight savings pretty significantly.

Second, I think you are missing my point. I'm not comparing flying in to Dallas and then driving 3 hours to Shreveport with flying in to Dallas and then waiting seven hours for a connecting flight to Shreveport.

I'm comparing flying in to Dallas and then driving 3 hours to Shreveport with .... staying far away at home and watching the game on TV. To me, flying to Dallas, then renting a car to drive to Shreveport is way more hassle than I need for something like the Independence Bowl. My son would have to be playing in the game for me to do that.
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Seriously, that game feels like an AAC vs. SEC or B12 game.
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(07-14-2019 07:41 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  Seriously, that game feels like an AAC vs. SEC or B12 game.

It should be something like that, but the Big 12 and SEC already have full slates of better bowls.

What really kills the Indy is that it is better than one SEC bowl - the Birmingham Bowl - but loses out to it because of conference politics. But even if it was in the SEC rotation instead of the BB, it still likely wouldn't get an SEC team most years.
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(07-14-2019 07:25 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(07-13-2019 07:29 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  
(07-13-2019 05:59 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(07-13-2019 11:27 AM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  
(07-13-2019 10:57 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Do you know anyone who wants to fly in to Dallas, with the hassle that entails, and then drive three hours to Shreveport?

I do not. 07-coffee3

Flying to Dallas is way cheaper than Shreveport and there’s more flight options. Especially if you’re flying with family.

Based on the last matchup (Duke vs Temple) fares between 12/25 and 12/27 (the game this year is on 12/26) from Raleigh to Shreveport on Delta is $368 RT with a 7 hour layover in Atlanta. If you’re flying American or United is $503. Dallas? 272.....nonstop. From Philadelphia is $388 on Delta with a 8 hour layover in ATL. It’s $548 on United with a stop in Houston and $579 on American with a stop in Charlotte. DFW? $222.....nonstop.

That makes a huge difference if you’re flying with the wife and probably the kids. Even renting a car and driving the 3 hours to Shreveport is worth the savings.

Yes, but getting in a car and driving 3 hours is a pain in the arse after flying.

It’s worse being stuck at an airport for 7 hours for a connecting flight especially if you have kids. There’s few flights to/from Shreveport so the connecting flights take a little longer compared to medium/large airports.

It’s 3 hours not six. Totally doable and worth it if you want to save money.

First, the cost of renting a car is going to eat in to those $300 in flight savings pretty significantly.

Second, I think you are missing my point. I'm not comparing flying in to Dallas and then driving 3 hours to Shreveport with flying in to Dallas and then waiting seven hours for a connecting flight to Shreveport.

I'm comparing flying in to Dallas and then driving 3 hours to Shreveport with .... staying far away at home and watching the game on TV. To me, flying to Dallas, then renting a car to drive to Shreveport is way more hassle than I need for something like the Independence Bowl. My son would have to be playing in the game for me to do that.

I’m not missing anything. You just like to argue for the sake of argument.

You’re renting a car regardless if you’re flying directly to Shreveport or Dallas. Just because you won’t do it doesn’t mean other people won’t pass on the savings. For a family of four that’s a difference on savings between $400-$1200 especially on such a short notice and on Christmas.
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(07-13-2019 07:29 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  
(07-13-2019 05:59 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(07-13-2019 11:27 AM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  
(07-13-2019 10:57 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(07-13-2019 10:53 AM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  Am I the only one who doesn’t find Shreveport undesirable?

I’ve been there a few times and never had a bad experience. It’s not NOLA or Las Vegas but I’d rather go to Shreveport for a bowl game than Little Rock or Tulsa (if they had one).

I can see the issue of flying there though. Shreveport is not an easy place to fly to/from. But DFW and Love Field are just 3 hours away.

Do you know anyone who wants to fly in to Dallas, with the hassle that entails, and then drive three hours to Shreveport?

I do not. 07-coffee3

Flying to Dallas is way cheaper than Shreveport and there’s more flight options. Especially if you’re flying with family.

Based on the last matchup (Duke vs Temple) fares between 12/25 and 12/27 (the game this year is on 12/26) from Raleigh to Shreveport on Delta is $368 RT with a 7 hour layover in Atlanta. If you’re flying American or United is $503. Dallas? 272.....nonstop. From Philadelphia is $388 on Delta with a 8 hour layover in ATL. It’s $548 on United with a stop in Houston and $579 on American with a stop in Charlotte. DFW? $222.....nonstop.

That makes a huge difference if you’re flying with the wife and probably the kids. Even renting a car and driving the 3 hours to Shreveport is worth the savings.

Yes, but getting in a car and driving 3 hours is a pain in the arse after flying.

It’s worse being stuck at an airport for 7 hours for a connecting flight especially if you have kids. There’s few flights to/from Shreveport so the connecting flights take a little longer compared to medium/large airports.

It’s 3 hours not six. Totally doable and worth it if you want to save money.

I agree. I'd rather get in a rental car than wait for a connecting flight. Three hours is nothing.
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(07-14-2019 07:41 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  Seriously, that game feels like an AAC vs. SEC or B12 game.

Yup like AAC #1 (assuming they don't get a NY6 Bowl) vs #7/8 SEC or #5/6 Big 12
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(07-14-2019 07:25 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(07-13-2019 07:29 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  
(07-13-2019 05:59 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(07-13-2019 11:27 AM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  
(07-13-2019 10:57 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Do you know anyone who wants to fly in to Dallas, with the hassle that entails, and then drive three hours to Shreveport?

I do not. 07-coffee3

Flying to Dallas is way cheaper than Shreveport and there’s more flight options. Especially if you’re flying with family.

Based on the last matchup (Duke vs Temple) fares between 12/25 and 12/27 (the game this year is on 12/26) from Raleigh to Shreveport on Delta is $368 RT with a 7 hour layover in Atlanta. If you’re flying American or United is $503. Dallas? 272.....nonstop. From Philadelphia is $388 on Delta with a 8 hour layover in ATL. It’s $548 on United with a stop in Houston and $579 on American with a stop in Charlotte. DFW? $222.....nonstop.

That makes a huge difference if you’re flying with the wife and probably the kids. Even renting a car and driving the 3 hours to Shreveport is worth the savings.

Yes, but getting in a car and driving 3 hours is a pain in the arse after flying.

It’s worse being stuck at an airport for 7 hours for a connecting flight especially if you have kids. There’s few flights to/from Shreveport so the connecting flights take a little longer compared to medium/large airports.

It’s 3 hours not six. Totally doable and worth it if you want to save money.

First, the cost of renting a car is going to eat in to those $300 in flight savings pretty significantly.

Second, I think you are missing my point. I'm not comparing flying in to Dallas and then driving 3 hours to Shreveport with flying in to Dallas and then waiting seven hours for a connecting flight to Shreveport.

I'm comparing flying in to Dallas and then driving 3 hours to Shreveport with .... staying far away at home and watching the game on TV. To me, flying to Dallas, then renting a car to drive to Shreveport is way more hassle than I need for something like the Independence Bowl. My son would have to be playing in the game for me to do that.

Quo, I have literally done stuff you are talking about. I figure I'm on taking a few days off to see a game it doesn;t matter if I fly into a nearby city to save some $$. I would have to rent a car anyways. I just sit down and do the math: flight, rental car, extra gas, time lost...to see if it is worthwhile. If given the option for non-stop travel to a game I always try to go that route.
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(07-14-2019 10:46 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(07-13-2019 07:29 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  
(07-13-2019 05:59 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(07-13-2019 11:27 AM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  
(07-13-2019 10:57 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Do you know anyone who wants to fly in to Dallas, with the hassle that entails, and then drive three hours to Shreveport?

I do not. 07-coffee3

Flying to Dallas is way cheaper than Shreveport and there’s more flight options. Especially if you’re flying with family.

Based on the last matchup (Duke vs Temple) fares between 12/25 and 12/27 (the game this year is on 12/26) from Raleigh to Shreveport on Delta is $368 RT with a 7 hour layover in Atlanta. If you’re flying American or United is $503. Dallas? 272.....nonstop. From Philadelphia is $388 on Delta with a 8 hour layover in ATL. It’s $548 on United with a stop in Houston and $579 on American with a stop in Charlotte. DFW? $222.....nonstop.

That makes a huge difference if you’re flying with the wife and probably the kids. Even renting a car and driving the 3 hours to Shreveport is worth the savings.

Yes, but getting in a car and driving 3 hours is a pain in the arse after flying.

It’s worse being stuck at an airport for 7 hours for a connecting flight especially if you have kids. There’s few flights to/from Shreveport so the connecting flights take a little longer compared to medium/large airports.

It’s 3 hours not six. Totally doable and worth it if you want to save money.

I agree. I'd rather get in a rental car than wait for a connecting flight. Three hours is nothing.

I’ve done it multiple times. When UTEP played at Memphis in our first year in C-USA, I flew to Little Rock on Southwest and drove to Memphis on a rental (I was going to get a rental regardless if I flew directly to Memphis so it’s not included as an additional expense). I saved about $250 doing that. That was a time when Northwest had a monopoly in their Memphis hub and Southwest didn’t fly there. Memphis was an expensive airport to fly to/from. I’ve done the same thing when I’ve gone to Tucson (Phoenix), Colorado Springs (Denver), Palm Springs (LAX), Mobile (NOLA), Sacramento (SFO), Toronto (Detroit or Buffalo), Bloomington, IN (Louisville instead of Indianapolis) and State College (Pittsburgh).

I know people who use DFW and Love Field instead of their local airport in Waco, Abilene, Wichita Falls, Tyler/Longview, Texarkana even Oklahoma City. I’m sure quo knows people in Baton Rouge and Lafayette who would rather drive to NOLA for the savings and the multiple options it offers.
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(07-13-2019 07:29 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  
(07-13-2019 05:59 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(07-13-2019 11:27 AM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  Flying to Dallas is way cheaper than Shreveport and there’s more flight options. Especially if you’re flying with family.

Based on the last matchup (Duke vs Temple) fares between 12/25 and 12/27 (the game this year is on 12/26) from Raleigh to Shreveport on Delta is $368 RT with a 7 hour layover in Atlanta. If you’re flying American or United is $503. Dallas? 272.....nonstop. From Philadelphia is $388 on Delta with a 8 hour layover in ATL. It’s $548 on United with a stop in Houston and $579 on American with a stop in Charlotte. DFW? $222.....nonstop.

That makes a huge difference if you’re flying with the wife and probably the kids. Even renting a car and driving the 3 hours to Shreveport is worth the savings.

Yes, but getting in a car and driving 3 hours is a pain in the arse after flying.

It’s worse being stuck at an airport for 7 hours for a connecting flight especially if you have kids. There’s few flights to/from Shreveport so the connecting flights take a little longer compared to medium/large airports.

It’s 3 hours not six. Totally doable and worth it if you want to save money.

I agree. I'd rather get in a rental car than wait for a connecting flight. Three hours is nothing.

I’ve done it multiple times. When UTEP played at Memphis in our first year in C-USA, I flew to Little Rock on Southwest and drove to Memphis on a rental (I was going to get a rental regardless if I flew directly to Memphis so it’s not included as an additional expense). I saved about $250 doing that. That was a time when Northwest had a monopoly in their Memphis hub and Southwest didn’t fly there. Memphis was an expensive airport to fly to/from. I’ve done the same thing when I’ve gone to Tucson (Phoenix), Colorado Springs (Denver), Palm Springs (LAX), Mobile (NOLA), Sacramento (SFO), Toronto (Detroit or Buffalo), Bloomington, IN (Louisville instead of Indianapolis) and State College (Pittsburgh).

I know people who use DFW and Love Field instead of their local airport in Waco, Abilene, Wichita Falls, Tyler/Longview, Texarkana even Oklahoma City. I’m sure quo knows people in Baton Rouge and Lafayette who would rather drive to NOLA for the savings and the multiple options it offers.

I'm lucky right now. Allegiant offers me non-stop flights beween FL and Syracuse. I can cheaply fly between my home and summer place. The planes have pretty high capacity too so it should be around for awhile.

If you are military or a veteran they have special deals for you.

https://www.allegiantair.com/military-discount
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