(07-12-2019 08:12 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(07-12-2019 07:29 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(07-12-2019 05:21 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 03:49 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 03:23 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  I expect us to win 3 games.

However, anything less than 6 wins should be a fireable offense.

We shall see.

For a first year HC?

That's crazy talk .

He’s not a first year head coach. He already had a year as our head coach two years ago and it was complete and total chaos on and off the field.

This isn’t a normal “new hire” situation. The guy’s seat should already be a little uncomfortable. And if he bombs our program again this year, we should run him out of town (but we won’t).

He hasn't had a chance to be a real HC yet. Dang. He was working with Mog's assistants, players, etc. And even now Mog's some sort of administrator over the program from what I gather.

If App had fired Satterfield after his first season going 4-8 that'd have been a massively dumb mistake.

He is not a first year head coach at all. He is a two-time FCS National Coach of the Year finalist and three-time Big South Coach of the Year as the head coach of Charleston Southern. Two conference titles and two playoff appearances.

At CCU he's a first year head coach. He might have filled in before at CCU with Mogila was sick, but he's a first year head coach for the school. And that's how I meant it.

(07-12-2019 08:18 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(07-12-2019 08:12 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(07-12-2019 07:29 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(07-12-2019 05:21 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 03:49 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  For a first year HC?

That's crazy talk .

He’s not a first year head coach. He already had a year as our head coach two years ago and it was complete and total chaos on and off the field.

This isn’t a normal “new hire” situation. The guy’s seat should already be a little uncomfortable. And if he bombs our program again this year, we should run him out of town (but we won’t).

He hasn't had a chance to be a real HC yet. Dang. He was working with Mog's assistants, players, etc. And even now Mog's some sort of administrator over the program from what I gather.

If App had fired Satterfield after his first season going 4-8 that'd have been a massively dumb mistake.

He is not a first year head coach at all. He is a two-time FCS National Coach of the Year finalist and three-time Big South Coach of the Year as the head coach of Charleston Southern. Two conference titles and two playoff appearances.

At CCU he's a first year head coach. He might have filled in before at CCU with Mogila was sick, but he's a first year head coach for the school. And that's how I meant it.

He’s a second year head coach at a Coastal, and his first year as head coach was a disaster that throughout the season devolved into not only a lack of competitiveness on the field, but an attitude of complete apathy by some of our best players and dissension in the locker room.

I’ll say again, this is not a normal situation of a “new coach” at Coastal..

He better perform. But if he doesn’t, I have no doubt he will get another year or two regardless. But that doesn’t make it right.

(07-12-2019 05:32 AM)High Country Student Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 10:13 PM)Mr A Wrote:  I expect App to not even win the east. GS will and will meet stAte in Jonesboro for the second time to end the season. Yes App has a lot back but Eli and Scott run completely different offenses. Learning curb.

If theres one game I dont see us losing this year, its Georgia Southern. We haven't lost back to back seasons to the stink since 2002 and after the debacle last year every player on our roster will have that one circled. Not to mention it's in Boone. We haven't lost a sun belt game in Boone since 2015.

If you're going to try to use a derogatory nickname for us at least use it correctly...."the stink" is the Appy nickname du jour for the city of Statesboro not for GS as a whole. I'm sure it was meant with love, though..... Carry on.

(07-10-2019 03:58 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 01:45 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 11:58 AM)_x_ Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 11:49 AM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 11:13 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  I'd hate to make a W-L prediction but after the last 4 seasons I'd be happy with 5 wins. I think we should be able to beat GSU, Nicholls, ULM, USA, and Coastal, and as close as we came last year to beating Troy and GS, I'm hoping we can upset one of Wyoming, Troy, stAte, or UL. I don't have much hope for us against A&M, SMU, or App. I just hope we can be competitive in those games.

Besides wins it's pretty obvious where us TXST fans want to see improvement, the offense. If our defense can play at the same level we don't even need a huge jump in offensive production. With marginal improvement we could've won 8 games last year so maybe it clicks and we hit 6 or 7 this year. The pessimist in me however thinks our defense drops off as a result of the coaching change. I'm very excited for Spav but I really would've liked to have seen how year 4 would've went under Withers, he clearly had us going in the right direction. One thing the new staff has preached is increasing turnovers so hopefully at the worst our defense regresses but we get more turnovers to even it out.

EW had us moving in the right direction ??? EW went 2-10, 2-10, 3-9 in his 3 seasons, not to be Debbie Downer, but I ain’t seeing this “Right Direction” you speak of.
Our D did improve in his 3 years, I’ll give him that . . . but that’s all I’ll give him. Our kicking game under him was pathetic . . . and the Offense anemic . . . unless you consider practically no running game, and QB’s running for their lives on every passing play the “Right Direction.”
Personally, I’m glad he’s gone . . shoulda happened sooner. Our FB program has been a joke for far too long, and it goes well beyond Coaching. As far as Spav and Co., almost anything has got to be an improvement on the past 4 years. I wish him well, am pulling for him, his staff, and the team . . . just don’t “step in it.”

2018 team would've beaten the 2017 team who would've smoked the 2016 team. And the 2019 team was in position to finally be decent under that staff. That's moving in the right direction. Not that any of his 3 teams were any good.

Your assertion that the 2018 team would have beaten the 2017 who would’ve smoked the 2016, and the 2019 was in a position to be decent is nothing but speculation. (You are of course entitled to your opinion).

Bottom line: 2-10, 2-10, 3-9 Those records suck, the team sucked, ergo EW and his merry band of miscreant coaches sucked. Put all the lipstick you want on that pig, it’s still a pig. Here, let me say it one more time: 2-10, 2-10, 3-9. I wonder what Southern fan might say about those records if their program went through a similar 3 years . . . Oh wait, Southern fan would have gleefully leaped from the ledge he'd crawled onto, so would App. Fan or StAte fan, or Troy fan. Only Bobcat fan would come onto a public forum and try to argue that said record was "progress."

Anyone calling that moving in the right direction needs to put down both their crack pipe and their maroon and gold colored glasses. Arguing about incremental almost imperceptible team improvement is about as meaningful as G5’s all trying to determine the biggest midget in the room.
I guess all that “improvement” is why attendance and donations went up during the EW tenure . . . NO ? How could that be?

I’ll say this for our fan base though, talking bout the hard cores here . . we’re like the Wile E. Coyote of fans. Drop us off a cliff, hit us with an anvil, run us over with a truck, blow us up, don’t matter how many times you kick us in the teeth (or the nether regions). Just like that coyote, we pick ourselves up, brush ourselves off, put on those maroon and gold colored glasses and ask for more . . . cause one day, just like that Charlie Brown fella, we’re gonna actually kick that ball.
Masochist, ain’t got nothin’ on true Bobcat fan.
Flail away y’all . . .

I typed out a long ass response only to stop and say to myself "maybe that dude is right. Maybe I should expect winning seasons every year or at least expect more than what we got?", but based on recent history why would I? Our cupboard was bare when Withers got here so it's no wonder he had such a hard time. He finally got us to being competitive last year. He did make a terrible OC hire that held us back I'll give you that, but we're in a much better position now than we were 3 years ago. Call me crazy but Ill call that getting us going in the right direction. Now was 3-9 and 5 close losses where we wanted to be after last year? Obviously not but that beats 2-10 and getting blown out in almost every loss. Hopefully we can spring forward from here with this defense he has left us.

Sorry you didn't feel compelled to roll with your "long ass response." I mean that's half the fun of posting here, ain't it?

I suspect that you and I have different ideas as to what being "competitive" means.

I acknowledged that under his tenure our D did improve, the rest left a lot to be desired. But as always, I'll bottom line it:

*2-10, 2-10, 3-9. That ain't good, and it ain't competitive. * (*speaking strictly for myself.*) As for your 5 close losses, be they close, be they blow outs, they still be losses.

As Bill Parcels used to say, hell maybe he still does: "You are what your record says you are."

Teal Nation's had some weird luck lately with football because normally Eastern Michigan and Kansas on your schedule would indicate you have a good chance in picking up some non-conference wins but the Eagles are coming off a bowl trip season and the Jayhawks have credibility now (at least on paper) with The Mad Hatter taking over so I'm not sure we will compete well in those (I'm sure when we scheduled them years ago we were more confident but now I'm concerned as a fan)! I know Coach Chadwell's had issues among players staying and buying into what he's building but the bigger transition is going to occur to our program when our president leaves after next year and his good friend, The Mogul, probably takes off with him. President DeCenzo has been behind our school's biggest leaps since 2007 in regards to infrastructure, growth, and athletic prominence so it will be a huge void felt across the Chanticleer Universe. With all that said, I disagree about Chadwell being on any hot seat and I honestly believe that those predicting more than five wins are insane yet I'd be very surprised if we don't shock early season prognosticators by not being the worst team in our division (sorry, Georgia State) as we beat a few Fun Belt rivals (Georgia Southern and ULM, here's looking at you) this season...

(07-12-2019 10:03 PM)El Chanto Wrote:  Teal Nation's had some weird luck lately with football because normally Eastern Michigan and Kansas on your schedule would indicate you have a good chance in picking up some non-conference wins but the Eagles are coming off a bowl trip season and the Jayhawks have credibility now (at least on paper) with The Mad Hatter taking over so I'm not sure we will compete well in those (I'm sure when we scheduled them years ago we were more confident but now I'm concerned as a fan)! I know Coach Chadwell's had issues among players staying and buying into what he's building but the bigger transition is going to occur to our program when our president leaves after next year and his good friend, The Mogul, probably takes off with him. President DeCenzo has been behind our school's biggest leaps since 2007 in regards to infrastructure, growth, and athletic prominence so it will be a huge void felt across the Chanticleer Universe. With all that said, I disagree about Chadwell being on any hot seat and I honestly believe that those predicting more than five wins are insane yet I'd be very surprised if we don't shock early season prognosticators by not being the worst team in our division (sorry, Georgia State) as we beat a few Fun Belt rivals (Georgia Southern and ULM, here's looking at you) this season...

I’m looking forward to finally having the Chants in Paulson Stadium after playing y’all in Conway since y’all joined the conference. We don’t make it easy on opposing teams in there, so good luck.

(07-10-2019 01:45 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 11:58 AM)_x_ Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 11:49 AM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 11:13 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  I'd hate to make a W-L prediction but after the last 4 seasons I'd be happy with 5 wins. I think we should be able to beat GSU, Nicholls, ULM, USA, and Coastal, and as close as we came last year to beating Troy and GS, I'm hoping we can upset one of Wyoming, Troy, stAte, or UL. I don't have much hope for us against A&M, SMU, or App. I just hope we can be competitive in those games.

Besides wins it's pretty obvious where us TXST fans want to see improvement, the offense. If our defense can play at the same level we don't even need a huge jump in offensive production. With marginal improvement we could've won 8 games last year so maybe it clicks and we hit 6 or 7 this year. The pessimist in me however thinks our defense drops off as a result of the coaching change. I'm very excited for Spav but I really would've liked to have seen how year 4 would've went under Withers, he clearly had us going in the right direction. One thing the new staff has preached is increasing turnovers so hopefully at the worst our defense regresses but we get more turnovers to even it out.

EW had us moving in the right direction ??? EW went 2-10, 2-10, 3-9 in his 3 seasons, not to be Debbie Downer, but I ain’t seeing this “Right Direction” you speak of.
Our D did improve in his 3 years, I’ll give him that . . . but that’s all I’ll give him. Our kicking game under him was pathetic . . . and the Offense anemic . . . unless you consider practically no running game, and QB’s running for their lives on every passing play the “Right Direction.”
Personally, I’m glad he’s gone . . shoulda happened sooner. Our FB program has been a joke for far too long, and it goes well beyond Coaching. As far as Spav and Co., almost anything has got to be an improvement on the past 4 years. I wish him well, am pulling for him, his staff, and the team . . . just don’t “step in it.”

2018 team would've beaten the 2017 team who would've smoked the 2016 team. And the 2019 team was in position to finally be decent under that staff. That's moving in the right direction. Not that any of his 3 teams were any good.

Your assertion that the 2018 team would have beaten the 2017 who would’ve smoked the 2016, and the 2019 was in a position to be decent is nothing but speculation. (You are of course entitled to your opinion).

I think it was pretty obvious things were moving in the right direction. In 2016, we had fewer scholarships than an FCS team. 2017 wasn't much better. 2018, we were still short, but at least we were closer to FBS numbers and quality than we were to FCS. We weren't even close to having a successful season in either the 2016 or 2017 seasons. At least in 2018, we were just a few points away in most games from finishing with 8 wins.

My bare minimum expectation of Withers if he had stayed for this season was going to be 6 wins. I fully expected that to be how we finished this year. Now that we have Spavital, I see no reason why that shouldn't remain as my expectation.

I think Spavital has a much higher upside though. I don't see any way Withers could have won more than 6 games. He could have dropped one to finish at 5, but I don't see anything higher than 6 if he was still here. Spavital on the other hand should have our offense turned around quite a bit from last season. That gives him an upside of another 3-4 games.

To summarize, I expect Spavital to finish somewhere between 6-9 wins this season. 5 will be a let down, anything more than 6 will be icing on the cake.

I expect to just get better. That shouldn't be too hard since we were miserable in almost every facet of the game last year and showed very little if any improvement in any area during Campbell's first season as coach. Penalties were especially bad with only one team in the FBS (FSU) being flagged more times. Many of those were just stupid unsportsmanlike fouls. Hopefully this year we'll see a little more disciplined team. That would be a first step.

(07-12-2019 05:32 AM)High Country Student Wrote:  

(07-10-2019 10:13 PM)Mr A Wrote:  I expect App to not even win the east. GS will and will meet stAte in Jonesboro for the second time to end the season. Yes App has a lot back but Eli and Scott run completely different offenses. Learning curb.

If theres one game I dont see us losing this year, its Georgia Southern. We haven't lost back to back seasons to the stink since 2002 and after the debacle last year every player on our roster will have that one circled. Not to mention it's in Boone. We haven't lost a sun belt game in Boone since 2015.

Who was that against?

With our schedule and what we have returning, anything less than 9 wins would be a major disappointment, as long as Drink doesn’t try to reinvent the wheel, and just tweaks the machine we should be fine.

(07-12-2019 10:03 PM)El Chanto Wrote:  Teal Nation's had some weird luck lately with football because normally Eastern Michigan and Kansas on your schedule would indicate you have a good chance in picking up some non-conference wins but the Eagles are coming off a bowl trip season and the Jayhawks have credibility now (at least on paper) with The Mad Hatter taking over so I'm not sure we will compete well in those (I'm sure when we scheduled them years ago we were more confident but now I'm concerned as a fan)! I know Coach Chadwell's had issues among players staying and buying into what he's building but the bigger transition is going to occur to our program when our president leaves after next year and his good friend, The Mogul, probably takes off with him. President DeCenzo has been behind our school's biggest leaps since 2007 in regards to infrastructure, growth, and athletic prominence so it will be a huge void felt across the Chanticleer Universe. With all that said, I disagree about Chadwell being on any hot seat and I honestly believe that those predicting more than five wins are insane yet I'd be very surprised if we don't shock early season prognosticators by not being the worst team in our division (sorry, Georgia State) as we beat a few Fun Belt rivals (Georgia Southern and ULM, here's looking at you) this season...

I feel pretty confident Kansas will be awful this season, especially if Miles brings his dinosaur offensive philosophy there.