(07-05-2019 07:07 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(07-04-2019 10:57 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  The 247 rankings are completely bogus right now, at least concerning USF. 247 doesn't have all of USF's commits listed. USF has 14 commits and 247 only has 11 listed, of which only 7 are rated. Literally HALF of USF's commits are not being listed/rated.

If all 14 commits were listed and properly rated, USF would have the number one class in the AAC right now on 247 (or extremely close to it).

Rivals has all 14 listed and USF has the number one class in AAC right now, tied with UC, and with the only 4 star in the AAC.

Yeah, 247 is really that far behind in keeping up with USF's commits.

That falls on whoever manages your 247 board.

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If one school is missing commits, I'd imagine there would be recruits missing from other programs as well. Unless USF's recruiting guy is the only one asleep at the wheel.

(07-05-2019 07:41 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 07:07 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(07-04-2019 10:57 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  The 247 rankings are completely bogus right now, at least concerning USF. 247 doesn't have all of USF's commits listed. USF has 14 commits and 247 only has 11 listed, of which only 7 are rated. Literally HALF of USF's commits are not being listed/rated.

If all 14 commits were listed and properly rated, USF would have the number one class in the AAC right now on 247 (or extremely close to it).

Rivals has all 14 listed and USF has the number one class in AAC right now, tied with UC, and with the only 4 star in the AAC.

Yeah, 247 is really that far behind in keeping up with USF's commits.

That falls on whoever manages your 247 board.

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If one school is missing commits, I'd imagine there would be recruits missing from other programs as well. Unless USF's recruiting guy is the only one asleep at the wheel.

The site has not been updated or active for months, as the site's publisher accepted a job with the Miami Dolphins a few months ago. My understanding is that a new person is taking over this month.

(07-05-2019 07:46 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 07:41 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 07:07 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(07-04-2019 10:57 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  The 247 rankings are completely bogus right now, at least concerning USF. 247 doesn't have all of USF's commits listed. USF has 14 commits and 247 only has 11 listed, of which only 7 are rated. Literally HALF of USF's commits are not being listed/rated.

If all 14 commits were listed and properly rated, USF would have the number one class in the AAC right now on 247 (or extremely close to it).

Rivals has all 14 listed and USF has the number one class in AAC right now, tied with UC, and with the only 4 star in the AAC.

Yeah, 247 is really that far behind in keeping up with USF's commits.

That falls on whoever manages your 247 board.

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If one school is missing commits, I'd imagine there would be recruits missing from other programs as well. Unless USF's recruiting guy is the only one asleep at the wheel.

The site has not been updated or active for months, as the site's publisher accepted a job with the Miami Dolphins a few months ago. My understanding is that a new person is taking over this month.

Makes sense. PS: if you haven't seen it, Underdog Dynasty did a USF preview a few days ago. I haven't listened to your yet, but for ECU they went through the whole schedule. You can tell that the guys are super involved or up on our teams, but it's something to listen to in July.

USF Preview

24/7 Top 3

Memphis
Cincy
Temple

Rivals Top 3

Cincy
USF
Temple/Memphis Tie

seems relatively consistent at the top at least.

(07-05-2019 08:20 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 07:46 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 07:41 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 07:07 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(07-04-2019 10:57 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  The 247 rankings are completely bogus right now, at least concerning USF. 247 doesn't have all of USF's commits listed. USF has 14 commits and 247 only has 11 listed, of which only 7 are rated. Literally HALF of USF's commits are not being listed/rated.

If all 14 commits were listed and properly rated, USF would have the number one class in the AAC right now on 247 (or extremely close to it).

Rivals has all 14 listed and USF has the number one class in AAC right now, tied with UC, and with the only 4 star in the AAC.

Yeah, 247 is really that far behind in keeping up with USF's commits.

That falls on whoever manages your 247 board.

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If one school is missing commits, I'd imagine there would be recruits missing from other programs as well. Unless USF's recruiting guy is the only one asleep at the wheel.

The site has not been updated or active for months, as the site's publisher accepted a job with the Miami Dolphins a few months ago. My understanding is that a new person is taking over this month.

Makes sense. PS: if you haven't seen it, Underdog Dynasty did a USF preview a few days ago. I haven't listened to your yet, but for ECU they went through the whole schedule. You can tell that the guys are super involved or up on our teams, but it's something to listen to in July.

USF Preview

I listened to the one done for Tulsa on that site. Basically said Tulsa's gonna get blown off the field in half our games, and talked about UCF scheduling for 10 minutes. Very thorough TU analysis...

Boom! Mason Garcia is on the ship!!


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(07-05-2019 11:45 AM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 08:20 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 07:46 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 07:41 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 07:07 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  That falls on whoever manages your 247 board.

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If one school is missing commits, I'd imagine there would be recruits missing from other programs as well. Unless USF's recruiting guy is the only one asleep at the wheel.

The site has not been updated or active for months, as the site's publisher accepted a job with the Miami Dolphins a few months ago. My understanding is that a new person is taking over this month.

Makes sense. PS: if you haven't seen it, Underdog Dynasty did a USF preview a few days ago. I haven't listened to your yet, but for ECU they went through the whole schedule. You can tell that the guys are super involved or up on our teams, but it's something to listen to in July.

USF Preview

I listened to the one done for Tulsa on that site. Basically said Tulsa's gonna get blown off the field in half our games, and talked about UCF scheduling for 10 minutes. Very thorough TU analysis...

Same for the Navy preview.
Good when they had SBNation Navy/AgainstAllEnemies guy on.
When it was just them, they displyed a distinct lack of knowledge about Navy, or even what happened last year in the AAC...digressed for awhile on UCF and scheduling ansd seemed to have at best only a shallow understanding of the issues around that...i get it when "national CFB" media doesnt have knowledge, but these guys supposedly have this beat...and then it was just bad quality radio...

(07-05-2019 09:40 AM)zoocrew Wrote:  24/7 Top 3

Memphis
Cincy
Temple

Rivals Top 3

Cincy
USF
Temple/Memphis Tie

seems relatively consistent at the top at least.

With Garcia's commitment, ECU is now 3rd in 247 & right behind Temple/Memphis nationally in rivals (56th overall).

(07-05-2019 06:14 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 09:40 AM)zoocrew Wrote:  24/7 Top 3

Memphis
Cincy
Temple

Rivals Top 3

Cincy
USF
Temple/Memphis Tie

seems relatively consistent at the top at least.

With Garcia's commitment, ECU is now 3rd in 247 & right behind Temple/Memphis nationally in rivals (56th overall).

Congrats on the huge pickup. Not to downplay your rankings, but as has been stated above, the USF 247 site is not currently being managed and run. If it were, USF would certainly be in the top 2, if not #1 in 247 (as they are in Rivals, which is being updated with USF recruits), which would bump everyone or almost everyone down one.

(07-05-2019 07:06 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 06:14 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 09:40 AM)zoocrew Wrote:  24/7 Top 3

Memphis
Cincy
Temple

Rivals Top 3

Cincy
USF
Temple/Memphis Tie

seems relatively consistent at the top at least.

With Garcia's commitment, ECU is now 3rd in 247 & right behind Temple/Memphis nationally in rivals (56th overall).

Congrats on the huge pickup. Not to downplay your rankings, but as has been stated above, the USF 247 site is not currently being managed and run. If it were, USF would certainly be in the top 2, if not #1 in 247 (as they are in Rivals, which is being updated with USF recruits), which would bump everyone or almost everyone down one.

You know that you can do add the missing players and calculate your 247 score. For instance, if and when we sign Jaheim Thomas, we, cincinnati, will regain the number one spot.

Good get for ECU! Please, improve your football program like we all know you're capable of.

(07-05-2019 07:25 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Good get for ECU! Please, improve your football program like we all know you're capable of.

People seem to forget that ECU was pretty good in the first year in the AAC. They were actually the first G5 team ranked under the new playoff system. The problem came the next year when the starting Quarterback Kurt Benkurt got hurt in training camp and then of course Ruff got fired by the stupidest AD in college football history which is when the slide started.

Hart knows what he is doing. ECU will be back.

(07-05-2019 09:40 AM)zoocrew Wrote:  24/7 Top 3

Memphis
Cincy
Temple

Rivals Top 3

Cincy
USF
Temple/Memphis Tie

seems relatively consistent at the top at least.

Recruiting is getting higher within this conference.


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(07-05-2019 07:06 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 06:14 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 09:40 AM)zoocrew Wrote:  24/7 Top 3

Memphis
Cincy
Temple

Rivals Top 3

Cincy
USF
Temple/Memphis Tie

seems relatively consistent at the top at least.

With Garcia's commitment, ECU is now 3rd in 247 & right behind Temple/Memphis nationally in rivals (56th overall).

Congrats on the huge pickup. Not to downplay your rankings, but as has been stated above, the USF 247 site is not currently being managed and run. If it were, USF would certainly be in the top 2, if not #1 in 247 (as they are in Rivals, which is being updated with USF recruits), which would bump everyone or almost everyone down one.

Recruiting rankings are largely driven by class size. A better barometer is average recruit ranking. UH is currently blowing everyone but Memphis out in that category.

(07-05-2019 08:37 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 07:06 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 06:14 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 09:40 AM)zoocrew Wrote:  24/7 Top 3

Memphis
Cincy
Temple

Rivals Top 3

Cincy
USF
Temple/Memphis Tie

seems relatively consistent at the top at least.

With Garcia's commitment, ECU is now 3rd in 247 & right behind Temple/Memphis nationally in rivals (56th overall).

Congrats on the huge pickup. Not to downplay your rankings, but as has been stated above, the USF 247 site is not currently being managed and run. If it were, USF would certainly be in the top 2, if not #1 in 247 (as they are in Rivals, which is being updated with USF recruits), which would bump everyone or almost everyone down one.

Recruiting rankings are largely driven by class size. A better barometer is average recruit ranking. UH is currently blowing everyone but Memphis out in that category.

Your kidding right, if we take our top 5 recruits, the amount Houston has verbalized, we smoke you.

(07-05-2019 08:37 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 07:06 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 06:14 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 09:40 AM)zoocrew Wrote:  24/7 Top 3

Memphis
Cincy
Temple

Rivals Top 3

Cincy
USF
Temple/Memphis Tie

seems relatively consistent at the top at least.

With Garcia's commitment, ECU is now 3rd in 247 & right behind Temple/Memphis nationally in rivals (56th overall).

Congrats on the huge pickup. Not to downplay your rankings, but as has been stated above, the USF 247 site is not currently being managed and run. If it were, USF would certainly be in the top 2, if not #1 in 247 (as they are in Rivals, which is being updated with USF recruits), which would bump everyone or almost everyone down one.

Recruiting rankings are largely driven by class size. A better barometer is average recruit ranking. UH is currently blowing everyone but Memphis out in that category.

Definitely some credence to that but I would say that size matters as well. For instance, last year ECU also had a big class & if you subtract ECU's lowest 4 recruits then the Pirates averaged as well as any in the conference. So a team that had 4 or 5 less recruits may have had a higher ranking per recruit and thus ECU had 4 or 5 extra recruits that weren't highly rated but just essentially served as bonus picks in the hope that some pan out.

(07-05-2019 08:43 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 08:37 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 07:06 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 06:14 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 09:40 AM)zoocrew Wrote:  24/7 Top 3

Memphis
Cincy
Temple

Rivals Top 3

Cincy
USF
Temple/Memphis Tie

seems relatively consistent at the top at least.

With Garcia's commitment, ECU is now 3rd in 247 & right behind Temple/Memphis nationally in rivals (56th overall).

Congrats on the huge pickup. Not to downplay your rankings, but as has been stated above, the USF 247 site is not currently being managed and run. If it were, USF would certainly be in the top 2, if not #1 in 247 (as they are in Rivals, which is being updated with USF recruits), which would bump everyone or almost everyone down one.

Recruiting rankings are largely driven by class size. A better barometer is average recruit ranking. UH is currently blowing everyone but Memphis out in that category.

Your kidding right, if we take our top 5 recruits, the amount Houston has verbalized, we smoke you.

Your top 5 gets you to .8586. UH is currently at 0.8579. That’s considered smoking us? Must be that Cincy math.

(07-05-2019 08:44 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 08:37 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 07:06 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 06:14 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 09:40 AM)zoocrew Wrote:  24/7 Top 3

Memphis
Cincy
Temple

Rivals Top 3

Cincy
USF
Temple/Memphis Tie

seems relatively consistent at the top at least.

With Garcia's commitment, ECU is now 3rd in 247 & right behind Temple/Memphis nationally in rivals (56th overall).

Congrats on the huge pickup. Not to downplay your rankings, but as has been stated above, the USF 247 site is not currently being managed and run. If it were, USF would certainly be in the top 2, if not #1 in 247 (as they are in Rivals, which is being updated with USF recruits), which would bump everyone or almost everyone down one.

Recruiting rankings are largely driven by class size. A better barometer is average recruit ranking. UH is currently blowing everyone but Memphis out in that category.

Definitely some credence to that but I would say that size matters as well. For instance, last year ECU also had a big class & if you subtract ECU's lowest 4 recruits then the Pirates averaged as well as any in the conference. So a team that had 4 or 5 less recruits may have had a higher ranking per recruit and thus ECU had 4 or 5 extra recruits that weren't highly rated but just essentially served as bonus picks in the hope that some pan out.

Sure, but still is not a great barometer due to transfers not being taken into account. UH won’t have a full class this year because of some transfers coming in that are not part of the class rankings. Average recruit ranking is my go-to when it comes to class strength. Doesn’t mean it will be for everyone, though.

(07-05-2019 07:50 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 07:25 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Good get for ECU! Please, improve your football program like we all know you're capable of.

People seem to forget that ECU was pretty good in the first year in the AAC. They were actually the first G5 team ranked under the new playoff system. The problem came the next year when the starting Quarterback Kurt Benkurt got hurt in training camp and then of course Ruff got fired by the stupidest AD in college football history which is when the slide started.

Hart knows what he is doing. ECU will be back.

The hiring of Scottie Montgomery did you no favors either. Your new coach won an FCS chip and that's good to bring that winning experience to ECU.